Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat : Rossi says
Andrea Rossi November 8th, 2012 at 12:30 PM Dear Marco: I appreciate wholeheartedly the enthusiasm of our supporters, but sometime I have the impression that the difficulties we are fighting against are strongly underevaluated, just like to make a LENR industrial apparatus should be a normal thing. If I say that we will make a thing betwen October and November, this does not mean October 1st, could also mean Nov. 30st. Can also happen that new difficulties raise, so a delay comes up. The NUCLEAR FUSION ( ITER and the likewise) scientists had foreseen to put their plant in operation 20 years ago. After 100 billions of (taxpayer’s) money, they today foresee that perhaps they will have a plant in operation in the next 50 years, after further hundreds of billion dollars, and the scientific context is comfortable with this. Their present target is COP 1.1; we published our work in 2009 ( see Focardi-Rossi paper on this Journal). After 3 years and few millions ( of our private company, no public funding requested, no taxpayer money spent) we are manufacturing ( completely at our risks) plants of 1 MW, one of which will go in operation within February 2013 and will be exposed to the public after a period of operation ( 2-3 months). The plant will be put in the concern of a major world holding, which has signed with us an extremely important contract. The plant will heat a fluid. No electricity will be produced in the first plant, because the Customer wants to make thermal energy with the forst application,but obviously, due to the high temperature we are now able to reach, the coupling with turbines in a Carnot cycle is possible and will surely be made by the same Customer in the next plants. We still guarantee COP 6, even if the supposition that the COP can be increased is not groundless. The self sustained mode happens for approximatively the 50% of the operational time, regulated by a new concept remotely governed control system. Well, after all this, somebody talks of infinite delays…well, allow me to say that some scientific context sometimes gives the impression not to be very scientific. We don’t bother, anyway, just work. As you can see, the answers are not confidential. Warm Regards, A.R. Andrea Rossi November 8th, 2012 at 12:59 PM Dear Avi: Prof. Sergio Focardi will always be in the team developing the E-Cat, as well as in our heart. Warm Regards, A.R.
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat : Rossi says
It should be noted that in the self sustaining mode the input power is applied approximately 50 % of the time. This is consistent with my simulation and adds credence to his report. Also, the COP of 6 is very much in line with the model. Dave -Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat : Rossi says Andrea Rossi November 8th, 2012 at 12:30 PM Dear Marco: I appreciate wholeheartedly the enthusiasm of our supporters, but sometime I have the impression that the difficulties we are fighting against are strongly underevaluated, just like to make a LENR industrial apparatus should be a normal thing. If I say that we will make a thing betwen October and November, this does not mean October 1st, could also mean Nov. 30st. Can also happen that new difficulties raise, so a delay comes up. The NUCLEAR FUSION ( ITER and the likewise) scientists had foreseen to put their plant in operation 20 years ago. After 100 billions of (taxpayer’s) money, they today foresee that perhaps they will have a plant in operation in the next 50 years, after further hundreds of billion dollars, and the scientific context is comfortable with this. Their present target is COP 1.1; we published our work in 2009 ( see Focardi-Rossi paper on this Journal). After 3 years and few millions ( of our private company, no public funding requested, no taxpayer money spent) we are manufacturing ( completely at our risks) plants of 1 MW, one of which will go in operation within February 2013 and will be exposed to the public after a period of operation ( 2-3 months). The plant will be put in the concern of a major world holding, which has signed with us an extremely important contract. The plant will heat a fluid. No electricity will be produced in the first plant, because the Customer wants to make thermal energy with the forst application,but obviously, due to the high temperature we are now able to reach, the coupling with turbines in a Carnot cycle is possible and will surely be made by the same Customer in the next plants. We still guarantee COP 6, even if the supposition that the COP can be increased is not groundless. The self sustained mode happens for approximatively the 50% of the operational time, regulated by a new concept remotely governed control system. Well, after all this, somebody talks of infinite delays…well, allow me to say that some scientific context sometimes gives the impression not to be very scientific. We don’t bother, anyway, just work. As you can see, the answers are not confidential. Warm Regards, A.R. Andrea Rossi November 8th, 2012 at 12:59 PM Dear Avi: Prof. Sergio Focardi will always be in the team developing the E-Cat, as well as in our heart. Warm Regards, A.R.
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat
All I can say is: heh 2012/11/7 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com Can be found in here: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/11/sven-kullander-on-the-e-cat/ Jeff -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: Can be found in here: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/11/sven-kullander-on-the-e-cat/ Jeff The USN is searching for new propulsion tech: http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2012/Navy-Researchers-Look-to-Rotating-Detonation-Engines-to-Power-the-Future
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: All I can say is: heh More appropriate, Meh.
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat
In side email, someone pointed out that NRL rumor is a year old. I misread the first part of the article and missed that. I wouldn't even have bothered forwarding the link. Jeff On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: All I can say is: heh More appropriate, Meh.
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: In side email, someone pointed out that NRL rumor is a year old. I misread the first part of the article and missed that. I wouldn't even have bothered forwarding the link. Before it was an unattributed rumor. The link provides an attribution and, yes, you did right to post it. Personally, knowing someone who retired from USN research, they leave no stone unturned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Maccabee While Bruce never claimed that the Navy supported his UFO research, neither did they condone it, so he told me when I asked.
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: While Bruce never claimed that the Navy supported his UFO research, neither did they condone it, so he told me when I asked. Dr. Maccabee's personal website: http://www.brumac.8k.com/
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat
Though it would be curious if one arm of the Navy shuts down CF research and another buys an eCat (and 12 more?)
Re: [Vo]:A claim that NRL bought an E-Cat
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Though it would be curious if one arm of the Navy shuts down CF research and another buys an eCat (and 12 more?) The term is going black.
