Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
Hi, As far what I understand from it, it does work with a kind of piston in the middle of the dish in the same kind of way how a cylinder in an engine moves back and forth by air pressure. Kind regards, Rob On 10-11-2012 18:07, Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.saphonenergy.com/ Their video says they are more efficient than coventional than current wind turbines but I don't see how they work.
Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: Hi, As far what I understand from it, it does work with a kind of piston in the middle of the dish in the same kind of way how a cylinder in an engine moves back and forth by air pressure. So it reciprocates? Sounds like a hoax.
Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: Hi, As far what I understand from it, it does work with a kind of piston in the middle of the dish in the same kind of way how a cylinder in an engine moves back and forth by air pressure. So it reciprocates? Sounds like a hoax. looks that way... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2IeCJiddQg Harry
Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
Here's the patent app; but, it's in French: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8mt4mJOTGvBeHhrV3YzVFZBNWM/edit
Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
Hi, On 10-11-2012 18:19, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: Hi, As far what I understand from it, it does work with a kind of piston in the middle of the dish in the same kind of way how a cylinder in an engine moves back and forth by air pressure. So it reciprocates? Looks like it and building up pressure inside it. Sounds like a hoax. Not necessarily, could well be possible. I wonder if a similar construction with a coil moving around a permanent magnet could work also, such like a loudspeaker but i.s.o. applying energy extracting energy it from it and be still energy efficient. Kind regards, Rob
Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: I wonder if a similar construction with a coil moving around a permanent magnet could work also, such like a loudspeaker but i.s.o. applying energy extracting energy it from it and be still energy efficient. That's what I though of when I saw the vid. Hey, that thing is cool, but look what some GaTech students have built: http://www.indiegogo.com/robotdragonfly?c=home Looks like a lot more fun that those gyrocopters.
Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
An interesting concept. Do you think that they impact the incoming wind with their mechanical design so that it oscillates in and out to drive the piston? A flag appears to generate wave motion from smooth steady wind by some form of positive feedback, perhaps this is somewhat similar. Dave -Original Message- From: Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine Hi, As far what I understand from it, it does work with a kind of piston in the middle of the dish in the same kind of way how a cylinder in an engine moves back and forth by air pressure. Kind regards, Rob On 10-11-2012 18:07, Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.saphonenergy.com/ Their video says they are more efficient than coventional than current wind turbines but I don't see how they work.
RE: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
Good comment, possibly from pitch-polers or other wind-bag oracles: oh good lord... a turbine that puts huge wind force stresses and resonant stresses on a tower... kinda like what I saw out on the Bay the other day - Larry'$ multi-million fail: http://www.wired.com/magazine/wp-content/images/19-09/ff_americascup2_f.jpg -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Bizarre! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2IeCJiddQg Harry
Re: [Vo]:Bladeless Turbine
Just a note re: bladeless turbines A couple years ago I helped a local inventor test his prototype new bladeless turbine. It was a simple little, hand made, 6 inch deal that we got spinning over 15000 rpm with a little steam boiler. He has a patent on it #7824149, and is building now a larger, better model. For someone interested in maybe finding a simple turbine to hook to lenr, it might be worthwhile to keep it in mind and check it out. The fellow moved to Wisconsin and can be contacted at cbrewer...@yahoo.com. regards, ken On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Good comment, possibly from pitch-polers or other wind-bag oracles: oh good lord... a turbine that puts huge wind force stresses and resonant stresses on a tower... kinda like what I saw out on the Bay the other day - Larry'$ multi-million fail: http://www.wired.com/magazine/wp-content/images/19-09/ff_americascup2_f.jpg -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Bizarre! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2IeCJiddQg Harry
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I am fluent in French. Is this worthwhile looking at? Cheers, Lawry On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Here's the patent app; but, it's in French: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8mt4mJOTGvBeHhrV3YzVFZBNWM/edit
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On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: looks that way... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2IeCJiddQg That was hilarious. I enjoyed that a lot. I cannot believe that's real. Eric
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On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:00 PM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote: I am fluent in French. Is this worthwhile looking at? Mais non. The video was sufficient.
