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The Rossi reaction in a nutshell… The mechanism of entanglement is different in the cold plasma based Rossi reaction as compared to the standard commonly used water based cold fusion applications like that used by the Thermacore experiment. In more detail, potassium carbonate K2CO3, the Mills catalyst, when heated by the primary heater in the Rossi reaction chamber produces potassium ions as these ions boil off the carbonate lattice. As these highly excited ions move away from the filament of the primary heater, they cool and condense into Rydberg atoms. These potassium Rydberg atoms catalyze the formation of hydrogen based Rydberg atoms through the quantum mechanical blockade process. This catalytic interaction between potassium atoms and hydrogen atoms produces a dense population of hydrogen Rydberg atoms through entanglement exchange in the dense hydrogen envelope. These hydrogen Rydberg atoms are then ionized by patch electrostatic forces by the tubercles on the surface of the nickel micro-particles. These protons so produced now become paired and entangled in growing numbers by the micro-cavity properties of these same tubercles. Some proton pair members of this expanding Boss-Einstein condensate ensemble population then tunnel into the nickel nuclei of the micro-particles. This condensate also thermalizes the gamma reaction energy via quantum mechanical decoherence of the nuclear active entangled proton condensate members. Quantum mechanical decoherence precipitates gamma thermalization via reaction energy generation. Getting back to the science of Ni-H thermal gain, instead of soap opera. Best regards: Axil On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Anyone care to get back to the science of Ni-H thermal gain, instead of soap opera? KHCO3 or Potassium bicarbonate is used as a sodium-free substitute for Baking soda in cooking, but don't let that the lack of toxicity fool you into thinking that it cannot also be a good catalyst for Ni-H. F. Fillaux, et al - in the paper mentioned recently - Macroscopic quantum entanglement and 'super-rigidity' of protons in the KHCO3 crystal from 30 to 300 K raises tantalizing issues relative to the Thermacore experiment and Ni-H, in general. The two best parts about this molecule is that potassium carbonate, which can be derived from the bicarbonate - is proven to be catalytic in dozens of experiments. The bicarbonate it is cheap - but mostly an potential advantage is because it is also a ready source of hydrogen. That feature could simplify some kinds of devices where using pressurized hydrogen from a tank is impractical. Decomposition of KHCO3 occurs between 100 °C and 120 °C into K2CO3 (potassium carbonate, the Mills catalyst) H2O and CO2. Adding electrical stimulation, or extra potassium can split the water and provide hydrogen. There is also an indication from a few long time BLP followers that the transition state from CO to CO2 acts as a catalyst. More on that later. Tasty... Jones
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Rossi reaction in a nutshell… SNIP Getting back to the science of Ni-H thermal gain, instead of soap opera. No it's not science. It's not science to postulate a mechanism for a reaction that has never been properly demonstrated to work. It's putting the proverbial cart way ahead of the horse.
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Hey Axil, I've put nickel nano powder and potassium chlorate (rough powder) into a test tube and heated it to 200C with 120 PSI of hydrogen and saw no excess heat to report. Any ideas on preparing the Ni lattice or tubercles? MY: You have quite an ego to accuse Axil of not contributing science to the Vortex! LOL! Those that say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those doing it
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.comwrote: MY: You have quite an ego to accuse Axil of not contributing science to the Vortex! LOL! I never said that. You made it up. My response was to a very specific post.
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No, science is try a method and see if works accordingly. 2012/1/20 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Rossi reaction in a nutshell… SNIP Getting back to the science of Ni-H thermal gain, instead of soap opera. No it's not science. It's not science to postulate a mechanism for a reaction that has never been properly demonstrated to work. It's putting the proverbial cart way ahead of the horse. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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See: http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/7700068.html# It looks like creating tubercles on the Nickel surface is a chemical process requiring precise temperature and timing controls. This would be hard for an amateur chemist to achieve. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Axil, I've put nickel nano powder and potassium chlorate (rough powder) into a test tube and heated it to 200C with 120 PSI of hydrogen and saw no excess heat to report. Any ideas on preparing the Ni lattice or tubercles? MY: You have quite an ego to accuse Axil of not contributing science to the Vortex! LOL! Those that say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those doing it
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*I've put nickel nano powder and potassium chlorate (rough powder) into **a test tube and heated it to 200C with 120 PSI of hydrogen and saw no **excess heat to report.* I don’t understand why you selected potassium chlorate over potassium carbonate K2CO3 as the catalyst. Also, 200C is far less than the curie point of nickel. Try a temperature above 355C. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Axil, I've put nickel nano powder and potassium chlorate (rough powder) into a test tube and heated it to 200C with 120 PSI of hydrogen and saw no excess heat to report. Any ideas on preparing the Ni lattice or tubercles? MY: You have quite an ego to accuse Axil of not contributing science to the Vortex! LOL! Those that say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those doing it
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Tasty... The really tasty part is that it was placed in the public domain with the 90's report and subsequently cannot be patented. Everyone is phucked: Mills, Rossi, DGT, Piantelli, Lanr.com And as the Yul Brynner says as the King of Siam, Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera . . . So entertaining . . . so entertaining. First come, first served. And the world benefits. Rossi knows this, I think. T T
