Re: [Vo]:LENR Cold Fusion website- Investing in LENR Cold Fusion
Rossi, at the end of his taxi talk with Sterling Allen, said that the eCat is too risky to invest in *YET*! On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: From: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:11:02 PM Nicely done: http://coldfusion3.com/blog/best-lenr-investments-or-at-least-companies-to-watch Rossi, at the end of his taxi talk with Sterling Allen, said that the eCat is too risky to invest in! It's also interesting that he's down-playing the applications of the eCat -- he's already said that its use in cars is decades away, and aircraft, never (despite NASA/Boeing penciling it in on a 15-year time frame). Now he dismisses another area : Andrea Rossi September 16th, 2012 at 5:54 AM Dear Pekka Janhunen: We are honestly thinking, after due diligence, that it will be impossible to compete against reverse osmosis, which costs 1 $/1000 liters: we will never reach this target , unless something really revolutionary comes up. Anyway we now are focused on the electric power consumption. Warm Regards, A.R. Sure is a curious scam --- rather than claiming that the eCat is the best thing since sliced bread (send money now), he's discouraging too much speculation (in a logical and financial sense).
Re: [Vo]:LENR Cold Fusion website- Investing in LENR Cold Fusion
At 12:50 AM 9/17/2012, Alan Fletcher wrote: It's also interesting that he's down-playing the applications of the eCat -- he's already said that its use in cars is decades away, and aircraft, never (despite NASA/Boeing penciling it in on a 15-year time frame). That study has been given way too much significance. This was a what if study, what if NiH LENR is real. The study was a bit naive. It seems to assume that reality will automatically mean that engineering is possible. That, in fact, has been an assumption of the pseudoskeptics. If cold fusion is real, how come we don't have a cold fusion hot water heater? after all, it's been over twenty years. Obviously, it's not real. Real practical Especially if most physicists, who might have the tools to actually figure out what is going on, dismiss it as a fantasy, leaving the field to a few specialists applying quantum field theory, like Takahashi. This may take a major effort, one person is not enough!
Re: [Vo]:LENR Cold Fusion website- Investing in LENR Cold Fusion
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: The study was a bit naive. It seems to assume that reality will automatically mean that engineering is possible. Assuming the high power reported by Rossi, Celani and others is real, that proves beyond doubt it is possible to engineer a practical system. There is no example in history of an energy source that was discovered, scaled up to this extent, but proved physically impossible to control. Many sources are too expensive, but anything that can be scaled up can be controlled. Muon fusion obviously cannot be. I am sure it would be possible to scale up and build a Pd-D cold fusion reactor too. Probably it could be done on the kilowatt scale right now. But it would cost a fortune and it would be of no use. Still, if you kept working on it, it would be a lot cheaper than the Mars Curiosity Pu power supply. That, in fact, has been an assumption of the pseudoskeptics. If cold fusion is real, how come we don't have a cold fusion hot water heater? after all, it's been over twenty years. Obviously, it's not real. That argument is silly. It is just a matter of money and politics. If a few hundred million dollars had been made available, or maybe a billion, and the political opposition dynamited away, I am sure we would have had prototype cars years ago. Once you get to this stage of development it is just a matter of money. There can no fundamental reason why this problem cannot be solved, when every single similar problem in the history of technology *was* solved. The scientific method has not magically stopped working. Scientists who say they don't believe it are merely demonstrating Szpak's Law: 'Scientists believe whatever you pay them to believe.' In other words, when you announce the cold fusion has been funded, hundreds of thousands of scientists will suddenly realize they believed it all along. The conversion will be so sudden and complete they will forget that they ever held any other opinion. This may take a major effort, one person is not enough! I am sure it will take thousands of people before we actually have working machines. Hundreds of thousands of people, and billions of dollars. Heck, it took a billion to develop the Prius, which is a minor incremental improvement in comparison. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:LENR Cold Fusion website- Investing in LENR Cold Fusion
From: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:11:02 PM Nicely done: http://coldfusion3.com/blog/best-lenr-investments-or-at-least-companies-to-watch Rossi, at the end of his taxi talk with Sterling Allen, said that the eCat is too risky to invest in! It's also interesting that he's down-playing the applications of the eCat -- he's already said that its use in cars is decades away, and aircraft, never (despite NASA/Boeing penciling it in on a 15-year time frame). Now he dismisses another area : Andrea Rossi September 16th, 2012 at 5:54 AM Dear Pekka Janhunen: We are honestly thinking, after due diligence, that it will be impossible to compete against reverse osmosis, which costs 1 $/1000 liters: we will never reach this target , unless something really revolutionary comes up. Anyway we now are focused on the electric power consumption. Warm Regards, A.R. Sure is a curious scam --- rather than claiming that the eCat is the best thing since sliced bread (send money now), he's discouraging too much speculation (in a logical and financial sense).
