RE: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-23 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
That would be me...
I posted it only a few days ago...
Tue 6/18/2013 12:29 AM

-Mark 

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:23 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

In reply to  David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 22:28:39 -0400
(EDT):
Hi,
[snip]

I recently saw an input that suggested that the frequency error for a
hydrogen orbit jump between the lowest states was only 11 hertz out of a
very large estimated center frequency.   Was that a paper that you found
Robin?  

No, not me.

The error would have been in parts per trillion or so which is quite small.

Indeed.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



RE: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-23 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Robin wrote:
 Then the spectral lines of substances close to absolute zero should be
much sharper.
Papers on low temperature spectrometry?

Exactly, and a BEC would probably have the sharpest line...
but you would need some way to measure frequency with 1 in 10^15 accuracy.
Not possible... yet.
-Mark Iverson

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:31 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

In reply to  MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:01:18 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin wrote:
 I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the 
line width of spectral lines.

That's one possibility...

Another is that the actual line is much narrower than what you see, but 
the frequency is varying about a mean so fast that it APPEARS to our 
measuring instruments as a wider, single line.

Then the spectral lines of substances close to absolute zero should be much
sharper.
Papers on low temperature spectrometry?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



RE: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-22 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Robin wrote:
 I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line
width of spectral lines.

That's one possibility...

Another is that the actual line is much narrower than what you see, but the
frequency is varying about a mean so fast that it APPEARS to our measuring
instruments as a wider, single line.

-Mark Iverson

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 10:36 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

In reply to  David Roberson's message of Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:52:29 -0400
(EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
It is not clear how a reduction in Q would reveal itself in this situation.
What indications are there that the resonant frequencies might vary as
stress is applied?

I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line
width of spectral lines.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-22 Thread David Roberson
There seems to be several possibilities.  Am I mistaken to believe that there 
is one very exact value of orbital energy for this level?  Does that imply that 
Doppler shift accounts for the spreading for a single free atom?


Of course, if there is interaction among the nearby atoms, spread might be 
expected due to coupling.  And, where does the excess energy go to when a 
photon of slightly greater energy is absorbed by a free atom?  Maybe the 
Compton effect makes up for the differences by very low frequency (energy) re 
radiation.


Dave 



-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 4:01 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path


Robin wrote:
 I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line
width of spectral lines.

That's one possibility...

Another is that the actual line is much narrower than what you see, but the
frequency is varying about a mean so fast that it APPEARS to our measuring
instruments as a wider, single line.

-Mark Iverson

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 10:36 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

In reply to  David Roberson's message of Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:52:29 -0400
(EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
It is not clear how a reduction in Q would reveal itself in this situation.
What indications are there that the resonant frequencies might vary as
stress is applied?

I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line
width of spectral lines.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html


 


Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-22 Thread mixent
In reply to  MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:01:18 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin wrote:
 I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line
width of spectral lines.

That's one possibility...

Another is that the actual line is much narrower than what you see, but the
frequency is varying about a mean so fast that it APPEARS to our measuring
instruments as a wider, single line.

Then the spectral lines of substances close to absolute zero should be much
sharper.
Papers on low temperature spectrometry?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-22 Thread David Roberson

I recently saw an input that suggested that the frequency error for a hydrogen 
orbit jump between the lowest states was only 11 hertz out of a very large 
estimated center frequency.   Was that a paper that you found Robin?  The error 
would have been in parts per trillion or so which is quite small.

Dave


-Original Message-
From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path


In reply to  MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:01:18 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin wrote:
 I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line
width of spectral lines.

That's one possibility...

Another is that the actual line is much narrower than what you see, but the
frequency is varying about a mean so fast that it APPEARS to our measuring
instruments as a wider, single line.

Then the spectral lines of substances close to absolute zero should be much
sharper.
Papers on low temperature spectrometry?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html


 


Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-22 Thread mixent
In reply to  David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]

I recently saw an input that suggested that the frequency error for a hydrogen 
orbit jump between the lowest states was only 11 hertz out of a very large 
estimated center frequency.   Was that a paper that you found Robin?  

No, not me.

The error would have been in parts per trillion or so which is quite small.

Indeed.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread David Roberson

Fran,

Any coupling between the active resonators, such as Coulomb, would act as the 
platform.  The higher the Q of the resonances, the lower the amount of 
coupling required for this to occur.  Tuning differences of the resonances will 
also play an important part.

One question that arises is how far away from an individual resonance does it 
effectively couple?  Does each site only couple to the adjacent sites or does 
the effect penetrate far into the material?  I wonder about the consequences 
associated with these different reaches.

Dave


-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path



Axil,
Care to walk us through it?  I am assuming the heating 
resistors are the emission source and the micro tubles on the inside of the 
reactor wall form the nano pattern that causes plasmon resonance stimulated by 
the emission causing magnetic oscillation?  This article didn’t mention 
hydrogen loaded material but it did mention the need to detail the nano 
structures / grooves in one case .. we don’t have that with random orientations 
of tubules. What synchronizes the oscillations? Does the loaded hydrogen act 
like the metronome platform? The articles mentions the same nano geometries we 
have discussed previously for redundant ground states and Casimir effect.. do 
you see a linkage between these stimulated oscillation and  Rydberg hydrogen?
I am very interested because I suspect the Rydberg state may allow an alternate 
self organizing method in place of the “Nanoscale Detail” required in the 
article .. the Rydberg and inverse Rydberg can act as an energy spring between 
orbitals instead of spatial displacement along a common axis.
Fran

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:49 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path
 

Reference:
[Vo]:Plasmons on a patterned surface can enhance the production of bright 
electron beams.
Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/17
This article about nano-antennas prompted me to regard these nanostructures as 
being utilized by Rossi and DGT in their tubule coatings of their micro-powder.
 

 

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:

Here’s the original posting:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg60465.html
 
-mark

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 

Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.


 

 


date:

 Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM









 







I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to your 
mode of thinking. 





 









 




Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread Axil Axil
*“I am assuming the heating resistors are the emission source and the micro
tubles on the inside of the reactor wall form the nano pattern that causes
plasmon resonance stimulated by the emission causing magnetic oscillation?”*

Yes, the heat synchronizes everything to an astounding level.  The infrared
photons acts as the metronome platform.

http://phys.org/news/2013-06-entanglement-optical-atomic-coherence.html

First entanglement between light and optical atomic coherence

The heat drives everything including the dipole movements of the electrons
and holes, the Rydberg clusters, the engagement of all the NAE, and it
drives the associated vortex currents and magnetic fields in the nanowires.








On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Roarty, Francis X 
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:

  Axil,

 Care to walk us through it?  I am assuming the heating
 resistors are the emission source and the micro tubles on the inside of the
 reactor wall form the nano pattern that causes plasmon resonance stimulated
 by the emission causing magnetic oscillation?  This article didn’t mention
 hydrogen loaded material but it did mention the need to detail the nano
 structures / grooves in one case .. we don’t have that with random
 orientations of tubules. What synchronizes the oscillations? Does the
 loaded hydrogen act like the metronome platform? The articles mentions the
 same nano geometries we have discussed previously for redundant ground
 states and Casimir effect.. do you see a linkage between these stimulated
 oscillation and  Rydberg hydrogen? 

 I am very interested because I suspect the Rydberg state may allow an
 alternate self organizing method in place of the “Nanoscale Detail”
 required in the article .. the Rydberg and inverse Rydberg can act as an
 energy spring between orbitals instead of spatial displacement along a
 common axis.

 Fran

 

 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:49 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 ** **

 Reference:

 [Vo]:Plasmons on a patterned surface can enhance the production of bright
 electron beams.

 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

 http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/17

 This article about nano-antennas prompted me to regard these
 nanostructures as being utilized by Rossi and DGT in their tubule coatings
 of their micro-powder.

  

 ** **

 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
 wrote:

 Here’s the original posting:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg60465.html

  

 -mark

  

 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

  

 Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.

  

  

 date:

  Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

  

 I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to
 your mode of thinking. 

  

 ** **



RE: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
How did tesla generate tens of millions of volts potential in the secondary
circuit at his lab in Colorado springs, when he was only feeding his primary
with at most a few hundred volts?  The 'power' was not amplified, but one
electrical property (V) was, at the expense of the other (I); nothing
revolutionary there, V-up, I-down.  

 

Now, if 'power' is needed to overcome the coulomb barrier, then perhaps this
is not a possibility, but if an equivalent situation in the atoms or lattice
could be set up similar to a resonant transformer, then one physical
property (E-fld??) could be greatly amplified at the expense of another
(???).  

 

-Mark

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 

Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.

 


 date:

 Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

 



I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to
your mode of thinking. 

 



Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread David Roberson

Mark,

I think you should refer to energy as the variable needed to allow fusion.  
Power can be manipulated into very large numbers by making the time extremely 
short for an energetic event.  This is like the trade off you mention between 
voltage and current by Tesla.

Dave


-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 12:16 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path



How did tesla generate tens of millions of volts potential in the secondary 
circuit at his lab in Colorado springs, when he was only feeding his primary 
with at most a few hundred volts?  The ‘power’ was not amplified, but one 
electrical property (V) was, at the expense of the other (I); nothing 
revolutionary there, V-up, I-down.  
 
Now, if ‘power’ is needed to overcome the coulomb barrier, then perhaps this is 
not a possibility, but if an equivalent situation in the atoms or lattice could 
be set up similar to a resonant transformer, then one physical property 
(E-fld??) could be greatly amplified at the expense of another (???)…  
 
-Mark
 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 

Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.

 



 date:

 Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM









 







I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to your 
mode of thinking. 





 










Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread Axil Axil
 You are exactly right; EMF is concentrated just like Tesla did it. But it
happens through the size differences between the clusters. Big clusters act
like primaries and small ones like secondary.

When large clusters touch small ones, large EMF amplification occurs in the
nano-volumes between them.

EMF can get through the barrier with no problem. It just needs to be the
right type of EMF to shake up the nucleus: Monopole magnetic fields.

Spinning currents are the key; current vortexes.






On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:

 How did tesla generate tens of millions of volts potential in the
 secondary circuit at his lab in Colorado springs, when he was only feeding
 his primary with at most a few hundred volts?  The ‘power’ was not
 amplified, but one electrical property (V) was, at the expense of the other
 (I); nothing revolutionary there, V-up, I-down.  

 ** **

 Now, if ‘power’ is needed to overcome the coulomb barrier, then perhaps
 this is not a possibility, but if an equivalent situation in the atoms or
 lattice could be set up similar to a resonant transformer, then one
 physical property (E-fld??) could be greatly amplified at the expense of
 another (???)…  

 ** **

 -Mark

 ** **

 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 ** **

 Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.

  

  date:

  Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

  

 I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to
 your mode of thinking. 

 ** **



Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Dave,  I had the same question, emission penetration seem to favor surface 
effects and one would expect such an effect to dissipate below the surface but 
you also mentioned the Q of these cavities which might allow deeper plasmons to 
synchronize and resonate as slaves to the surface layer..  Note, the anomalous 
effects only seem to occur when gas is loaded into metal lattice structures so 
Axil’s citation was relevant but not a case of OU. The OU is related to DCE and 
changes to Rydberg gas atoms caused by the DCE, Axil is, IMHO, introducing 
plasmons as part of the “tank” circuit to store energy out of phase with 
whatever storage method is occurring inside the cavity, I am positing this 
storage method is related to the bond state of fractional hydrogen but there 
are many theories you are free to choose from… ZPE, fusion, decay, hydroton, 
hydrino,  I was hoping axil would expand on his perspective of the plasmon to 
Rydberg linkage.
Fran

From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:59 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

Fran,

Any coupling between the active resonators, such as Coulomb, would act as the 
platform.  The higher the Q of the resonances, the lower the amount of 
coupling required for this to occur.  Tuning differences of the resonances will 
also play an important part.

One question that arises is how far away from an individual resonance does it 
effectively couple?  Does each site only couple to the adjacent sites or does 
the effect penetrate far into the material?  I wonder about the consequences 
associated with these different reaches.

Dave
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X 
francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.commailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path
Axil,
Care to walk us through it?  I am assuming the heating 
resistors are the emission source and the micro tubles on the inside of the 
reactor wall form the nano pattern that causes plasmon resonance stimulated by 
the emission causing magnetic oscillation?  This article didn’t mention 
hydrogen loaded material but it did mention the need to detail the nano 
structures / grooves in one case .. we don’t have that with random orientations 
of tubules. What synchronizes the oscillations? Does the loaded hydrogen act 
like the metronome platform? The articles mentions the same nano geometries we 
have discussed previously for redundant ground states and Casimir effect.. do 
you see a linkage between these stimulated oscillation and  Rydberg hydrogen?
I am very interested because I suspect the Rydberg state may allow an alternate 
self organizing method in place of the “Nanoscale Detail” required in the 
article .. the Rydberg and inverse Rydberg can act as an energy spring between 
orbitals instead of spatial displacement along a common axis.
Fran
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.commailto:janap...@gmail.com?]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:49 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

Reference:
[Vo]:Plasmons on a patterned surface can enhance the production of bright 
electron beams.
Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/17
This article about nano-antennas prompted me to regard these nanostructures as 
being utilized by Rossi and DGT in their tubule coatings of their micro-powder.


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint 
zeropo...@charter.netmailto:zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Here’s the original posting:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg60465.html

-mark

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.commailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.


date:

 Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM


I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to your 
mode of thinking.






Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread David Roberson

Fran, I have toyed with negative resistance oscillators which behave like 
infinite Q tuned tanks.  It is amazing how tiny an injection signal can be 
that locks the free running oscillator onto its center frequency.   On 
occasions I have used incidental coupling for entertainment where a small 
antenna radiates micro watts of RF into the room.  The negative resistance 
oscillator locks depending upon how close the two are tuned in frequency and 
the level of the coupling.

I suspect that an atom resonance behaves as a very high Q tank at the 
frequencies where it can exchange photons.  One would also expect these to be 
accurately tuned, although stress surrounding each individual atom might change 
that characteristic.  Does anyone recall any evidence that the Q of an atoms 
internal resonances are not approaching infinity?  It is not clear how a 
reduction in Q would reveal itself in this situation.  What indications are 
there that the resonant frequencies might vary as stress is applied?

It might be important how deeply the interactions are located within the 
material as you are suggesting.  The common behavior of many resonances acting 
together could modulate the external surface electron movements.   This entire 
group of interacting components could possibly act like one of the negative 
resistance oscillators that I am fond of.  In this case, the underlying 
structure would actively participate in the resonant movement of the surface 
electrons.

Dave 



-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path



Dave,  I had the same question, emission penetration seem to favor surface 
effects and one would expect such an effect to dissipate below the surface but 
you also mentioned the Q of these cavities which might allow deeper plasmons to 
synchronize and resonate as slaves to the surface layer..  Note, the anomalous 
effects only seem to occur when gas is loaded into metal lattice structures so 
Axil’s citation was relevant but not a case of OU. The OU is related to DCE and 
changes to Rydberg gas atoms caused by the DCE, Axil is, IMHO, introducing 
plasmons as part of the “tank” circuit to store energy out of phase with 
whatever storage method is occurring inside the cavity, I am positing this 
storage method is related to the bond state of fractional hydrogen but there 
are many theories you are free to choose from… ZPE, fusion, decay, hydroton, 
hydrino,  I was hoping axil would expand on his perspective of the plasmon to 
Rydberg linkage.
Fran
 
From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:59 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path
 

Fran,

 

Any coupling between the active resonators, such as Coulomb, would act as the 
platform.  The higher the Q of the resonances, the lower the amount of 
coupling required for this to occur.  Tuning differences of the resonances will 
also play an important part.

 

One question that arises is how far away from an individual resonance does it 
effectively couple?  Does each site only couple to the adjacent sites or does 
the effect penetrate far into the material?  I wonder about the consequences 
associated with these different reaches.

 

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path


Axil,

Care to walk us through it?  I am assuming the heating 
resistors are the emission source and the micro tubles on the inside of the 
reactor wall form the nano pattern that causes plasmon resonance stimulated by 
the emission causing magnetic oscillation?  This article didn’t mention 
hydrogen loaded material but it did mention the need to detail the nano 
structures / grooves in one case .. we don’t have that with random orientations 
of tubules. What synchronizes the oscillations? Does the loaded hydrogen act 
like the metronome platform? The articles mentions the same nano geometries we 
have discussed previously for redundant ground states and Casimir effect.. do 
you see a linkage between these stimulated oscillation and  Rydberg hydrogen?

I am very interested because I suspect the Rydberg state may allow an alternate 
self organizing method in place of the “Nanoscale Detail” required in the 
article .. the Rydberg and inverse Rydberg can act as an energy spring between 
orbitals instead of spatial displacement along a common axis.

Fran

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:49 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 


Reference:

[Vo]:Plasmons on a patterned surface can enhance the production of bright 
electron beams.

Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/17

This article about nano

Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread Axil Axil
The character of the EMF stored in the hot spots is well known.


http://www.phy-astr.gsu.edu/stockman/data/Stockman_Opt_Expres_2011_Nanoplasmonics_Review.pdf



*Nanoplasmonics: past, present, and*

*glimpse into future*

* *

*Mark I. Stockman**∗*







The hot spots are the concentration regions of the optical energy: These
eigenmodes possess very different topologies but very close eigenvalues
and, consequently, have almost the same frequency  *≈ *3*.*13 eV
corresponding to the blue spectral range.












On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Roarty, Francis X 
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:

  Dave,  I had the same question, emission penetration seem to favor
 surface effects and one would expect such an effect to dissipate below the
 surface but you also mentioned the Q of these cavities which might allow
 deeper plasmons to synchronize and resonate as slaves to the surface
 layer..  Note, the anomalous effects only seem to occur when gas is loaded
 into metal lattice structures so Axil’s citation was relevant but not a
 case of OU. The OU is related to DCE and changes to Rydberg gas atoms
 caused by the DCE, Axil is, IMHO, introducing plasmons as part of the
 “tank” circuit to store energy out of phase with whatever storage method is
 occurring inside the cavity, I am positing this storage method is related
 to the bond state of fractional hydrogen but there are many theories you
 are free to choose from… ZPE, fusion, decay, hydroton, hydrino,  I was
 hoping axil would expand on his perspective of the plasmon to Rydberg
 linkage.

 Fran

 ** **

 *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 11:59 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 ** **

 Fran,

  

 Any coupling between the active resonators, such as Coulomb, would act as
 the platform.  The higher the Q of the resonances, the lower the amount
 of coupling required for this to occur.  Tuning differences of the
 resonances will also play an important part.

  

 One question that arises is how far away from an individual resonance does
 it effectively couple?  Does each site only couple to the adjacent sites or
 does the effect penetrate far into the material?  I wonder about the
 consequences associated with these different reaches.

  

 Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 11:22 am
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

   Axil,

 Care to walk us through it?  I am assuming the heating
 resistors are the emission source and the micro tubles on the inside of the
 reactor wall form the nano pattern that causes plasmon resonance stimulated
 by the emission causing magnetic oscillation?  This article didn’t mention
 hydrogen loaded material but it did mention the need to detail the nano
 structures / grooves in one case .. we don’t have that with random
 orientations of tubules. What synchronizes the oscillations? Does the
 loaded hydrogen act like the metronome platform? The articles mentions the
 same nano geometries we have discussed previously for redundant ground
 states and Casimir effect.. do you see a linkage between these stimulated
 oscillation and  Rydberg hydrogen? 

 I am very interested because I suspect the Rydberg state may allow an
 alternate self organizing method in place of the “Nanoscale Detail”
 required in the article .. the Rydberg and inverse Rydberg can act as an
 energy spring between orbitals instead of spatial displacement along a
 common axis.

 Fran

 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com janap...@gmail.com?]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:49 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

   

 Reference:

 [Vo]:Plasmons on a patterned surface can enhance the production of bright
 electron beams.

 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

 http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/17

 This article about nano-antennas prompted me to regard these
 nanostructures as being utilized by Rossi and DGT in their tubule coatings
 of their micro-powder.

  

  

 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
 wrote:

 Here’s the original posting:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg60465.html

  

 -mark

  

 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path



 Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.

  

  

 date:

  Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

  

 I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to
 your mode of thinking. 

  

  



Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread Axil Axil
What I don't understand is if these surface plasmonds in this hot spot are
negatively charged.

If they are, the light soliton will surly produce a anapole field;
monopole. If this concentration of light  is not charged, I don't yet know
how  light can produce a magnetic effect.


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 The character of the EMF stored in the hot spots is well known.



 http://www.phy-astr.gsu.edu/stockman/data/Stockman_Opt_Expres_2011_Nanoplasmonics_Review.pdf



 *Nanoplasmonics: past, present, and*

 *glimpse into future*

 * *

 *Mark I. Stockman**∗*







 The hot spots are the concentration regions of the optical energy: These
 eigenmodes possess very different topologies but very close eigenvalues
 and, consequently, have almost the same frequency  *≈ *3*.*13 eV
 corresponding to the blue spectral range.












 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Roarty, Francis X 
 francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:

  Dave,  I had the same question, emission penetration seem to favor
 surface effects and one would expect such an effect to dissipate below the
 surface but you also mentioned the Q of these cavities which might allow
 deeper plasmons to synchronize and resonate as slaves to the surface
 layer..  Note, the anomalous effects only seem to occur when gas is loaded
 into metal lattice structures so Axil’s citation was relevant but not a
 case of OU. The OU is related to DCE and changes to Rydberg gas atoms
 caused by the DCE, Axil is, IMHO, introducing plasmons as part of the
 “tank” circuit to store energy out of phase with whatever storage method is
 occurring inside the cavity, I am positing this storage method is related
 to the bond state of fractional hydrogen but there are many theories you
 are free to choose from… ZPE, fusion, decay, hydroton, hydrino,  I was
 hoping axil would expand on his perspective of the plasmon to Rydberg
 linkage.

 Fran

 ** **

 *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 11:59 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 ** **

 Fran,

  

 Any coupling between the active resonators, such as Coulomb, would act as
 the platform.  The higher the Q of the resonances, the lower the amount
 of coupling required for this to occur.  Tuning differences of the
 resonances will also play an important part.

  

 One question that arises is how far away from an individual resonance
 does it effectively couple?  Does each site only couple to the adjacent
 sites or does the effect penetrate far into the material?  I wonder about
 the consequences associated with these different reaches.

  

 Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 11:22 am
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

   Axil,

 Care to walk us through it?  I am assuming the heating
 resistors are the emission source and the micro tubles on the inside of the
 reactor wall form the nano pattern that causes plasmon resonance stimulated
 by the emission causing magnetic oscillation?  This article didn’t mention
 hydrogen loaded material but it did mention the need to detail the nano
 structures / grooves in one case .. we don’t have that with random
 orientations of tubules. What synchronizes the oscillations? Does the
 loaded hydrogen act like the metronome platform? The articles mentions the
 same nano geometries we have discussed previously for redundant ground
 states and Casimir effect.. do you see a linkage between these stimulated
 oscillation and  Rydberg hydrogen? 

 I am very interested because I suspect the Rydberg state may allow an
 alternate self organizing method in place of the “Nanoscale Detail”
 required in the article .. the Rydberg and inverse Rydberg can act as an
 energy spring between orbitals instead of spatial displacement along a
 common axis.

 Fran

 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com janap...@gmail.com?]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:49 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

   

 Reference:

 [Vo]:Plasmons on a patterned surface can enhance the production of bright
 electron beams.

 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

 http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/17

 This article about nano-antennas prompted me to regard these
 nanostructures as being utilized by Rossi and DGT in their tubule coatings
 of their micro-powder.

  

  

 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
 wrote:

 Here’s the original posting:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg60465.html

  

 -mark

  

 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path



 Vo

Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-21 Thread mixent
In reply to  David Roberson's message of Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:52:29 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
It is not clear how a reduction in Q would reveal itself in this situation.  
What indications are there that the resonant frequencies might vary as stress 
is applied?

I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line width
of spectral lines.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



RE: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-20 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Please explain. and what was it that caused the light bulb to go on?

-Mark Iverson

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 

Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.

 

 


date:

 Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

 



I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to
your mode of thinking. 

 



RE: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-20 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Here's the original posting:

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg60465.html

 

-mark

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 

Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.

 

 


date:

 Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

 



I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to
your mode of thinking. 

 



Re: [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

2013-06-20 Thread Axil Axil
Reference:

[Vo]:Plasmons on a patterned surface can enhance the production of bright
electron beams.

Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/17

This article about nano-antennas prompted me to regard these nanostructures
as being utilized by Rossi and DGT in their tubule coatings of their
micro-powder.




On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:

 Here’s the original posting:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg60465.html

 ** **

 -mark

 ** **

 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:28 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* [Vo]:Mark has blazed the path

 ** **

 Vo]:Nickel nanoantennas... its all about resonances.

  

  

 date:

  Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM

  

 I have done my best, but Mark, it has taken me some time to come around to
 your mode of thinking. 

 ** **