Re: [Vo]:Overunity LED?
No, from the article: However, while MIT's diode puts out more than twice as much energy in photons as it's fed in electrons, it doesn't violate the conservation of energy because it appears to draw in heat energy from its surroundings instead. When it gets more than 100 percent *electrically*-efficient, it begins to cool down, stealing energy from its environment to convert into more photons. 2012/9/22 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds Craig -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Overunity LED?
Well, nothing is overunity, not even cold fusion, but there are a lot of places which could use cheap lighting and air conditioning. Craig On 09/22/2012 09:30 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: No, from the article: However, while MIT's diode puts out more than twice as much energy in photons as it's fed in electrons, it doesn't violate the conservation of energy because it appears to draw in heat energy from its surroundings instead. When it gets more than 100 percent /electrically/-efficient, it begins to cool down, stealing energy from its environment to convert into more photons. 2012/9/22 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds Craig -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Overunity LED?
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds LOL! The Reiter Effect showed a similar effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_coefficient as have other LENR products.
Re: [Vo]:Overunity LED?
Ordinarily it takes energy to fall below ambient temperature, so it must stealing energy from the electrical input that would have been used for photon production. Unless it is violating the laws of thermodynamics, it must become less efficient at producing photons as it cools. harry On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: No, from the article: However, while MIT's diode puts out more than twice as much energy in photons as it's fed in electrons, it doesn't violate the conservation of energy because it appears to draw in heat energy from its surroundings instead. When it gets more than 100 percent electrically-efficient, it begins to cool down, stealing energy from its environment to convert into more photons. 2012/9/22 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds Craig -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Overunity LED?
I like this device. It has interesting possibilities. Actually, energy is being radiated into space by all warm collections of gas molecules in the form of infrared. You could place a tiny low power heater within one of these clouds and claim that the power being radiated as heat is many times more than you supply. Of course if they have found a way to accelerate the transfer of heat beyond normal cooling then they can tap the residual energy that has thus far been considered impossible. Could this device be a form of heat pump? If it is, the test system boundary must include the location to which the LED radiation is sent. The target region would now have additional heat energy that matches that which is radiated from the local region. Dave -Original Message- From: Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 9:17 pm Subject: [Vo]:Overunity LED? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds Craig
