Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-05-05 Thread Nick Palmer

Michel wrote:

Back on topic, talking about unedible things, you don't happen to have Sir 
Branson's ear by any chance?


Think he might be interested in this Bermuda based N.A. Gyre cultivation 
nonsense?


Richard Branson's ear? If only...

As far as the Sargasso seaweed cultivation goes isn't it just a larger, more 
elaborate version of the Planktos idea? It would be great if a full and 
proper environmental risk/benefit assessment was carried out in advance and 
gave it a clean bill of health. Sometimes schemes like this, designed to be 
a solution to one problem, can have deleterious effects that outweigh the 
benefits. In short, they can cause more problems than they solve.




Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-05-03 Thread Nick Palmer
Michel, are you absolutely sure that you are French? You don't want to eat 
your horse and your English is better than that of most native speakers... I 
think the point was that the *water* began to run out and horses drink a lot 
of it so, to conserve supplies, they get thrown over first... 



Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-05-03 Thread Jones Beene
At the risk of stirring up another Hundred Years' War,
let me opine that the British Taboo on horse meat
seems to be fairly recent, or else ignored in
Yorkshire, and now has evolved into an item of jealous
yearning ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1551693/The-merits-of-horse-meat.html

I seriously doubt that any uneaten horse was ever
tossed overboard - in the entire history of the 
Admiralty ...

However, with our beloved Kentucky Derby set to begin
in a few hours, I will refrain from any culinary
review of this gourmet delicacy ...



--- Nick Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michel, are you absolutely sure that you are French?
 You don't want to eat 
 your horse and your English is better than that of
 most native speakers... I 
 think the point was that the *water* began to run
 out and horses drink a lot 
 of it so, to conserve supplies, they get thrown over
 first... 
 
 



RE: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-05-03 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Hmmm...would that be fast food?

Lawry

-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:39 AM
To: vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

At the risk of stirring up another Hundred Years' War,
let me opine that the British Taboo on horse meat
seems to be fairly recent, or else ignored in
Yorkshire, and now has evolved into an item of jealous
yearning ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1551693/The-merits-of-horse-meat.html

I seriously doubt that any uneaten horse was ever
tossed overboard - in the entire history of the 
Admiralty ...

However, with our beloved Kentucky Derby set to begin
in a few hours, I will refrain from any culinary
review of this gourmet delicacy ...



--- Nick Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michel, are you absolutely sure that you are French?
 You don't want to eat 
 your horse and your English is better than that of
 most native speakers... I 
 think the point was that the *water* began to run
 out and horses drink a lot 
 of it so, to conserve supplies, they get thrown over
 first... 
 
 




Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
Michel

Speaking of getting the Eye of the Gyre concept into full-motion, hurricane 
style, have you pushed the idea to that other famous Frenchman named Michel:

Jean-Michel Cousteau is of course the famous, environmentalist, educator, film 
producer and son of ocean explorer Jacques-Yves Cousteau ...

In 1999, He launched Ocean Futures Society which ought to be the perfect 
sponsor for harvesting the bounty of the oceans to help mitigate global warming 
...

http://www.oceanfutures.org/

BUT which organization, unfortunately, seems to be far more concerned with 
buttering-up to celebrities and raising capital for lame PR projects - than 
doing real work- like saving the oceans.

I have a feeling that Jacques Cousteau, even though himself a PR man at heart 
(and self-promoter), would be greatly disappointed in the real work being 
done today by his namesake 

Jones





Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-18 Thread R C Macaulay



Howdy Michel,
I wouldn't want to be suspended way out there on a guywire when a catagory 
5 hurricane comes  visiting.

Richard

Michel wrote,

Even better, let's close the loop!


Instead of far away (e.g. Azores) seeding, we could use a second sea line 
(underwater pipeline) to reject seeds, process residues with fertilizing 
value, and any additional fertilizer, from the processing station (e.g. 
Bermuda, or a floating platform not unlike a deep sea oil platform) to a 
nearby seeding point which will ensure a complete spiral orbit of the 
crop. In the case of the NA gyre this would be some point between the US 
Atlantic coast and Bermuda, or even on the US coast, or even on the Bermuda 
coast.


The processing station would be advantageously somewhere between, or at any 
extremity of a straight line between the harvesting point (the Eye) and the 
seeding point...


What do you think, fellow Gyre Farming enthusiasts?

Michel



Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-18 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to  Michel Jullian's message of Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:58:17 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Good point Richard, neither would I, nor would any robotic platform... Maybe 
we could envisage sufficient flexibility in the mooring scheme (maybe some 
kind of semi-dynamic mooring, static most of the time, dynamic=motorized when 
needed) to move out of the way of the hurricane? 
[snip]
It just needs to be submerged enough to get it out of the way.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.



Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
--- Michel Jullian wrote:
 
 So, how do you like this place for our North
 Atlantic operations headquarters:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=bermuda+islandjsv=107sll=32.324276,-66.796875sspn=43.078993,56.953125ie=UTF8ll=32.301063,-64.786377spn=21.796966,28.476562t=hz=5


... only one or two things not to like about Bermuda.
Here is one of them- also very vortexian:

http://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/oceancolor/images/Sep62003_FabianErodesBermuda.jpg



Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-14 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to  Michel Jullian's message of Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:02:43 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
I have a vague recollection of the Sargasso see being a protected marine
environment. That may restrict what you can do.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.