Re: [Vo]:Steorn's HephaHeat Eclipses Rossi's ECat

2011-11-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jwinter:

...

 But still Rossi's device does get the higher end - right up over a
 megawatt.  And it's market ready.

Well, I must confess a personal opinion that I suspect Steorn is not
dead yet! ;-)

However, regarding Rossi's ecats.

Assuming one of the most positive Polly-Anna scenarios possible, the
technology behind Rossi's mysterious eCats is NOT market ready. Not
by a long shot. It's going to take a huge amount of RD, and a huge
amount of money, to figure out how to make the phenomenon Rossi
stumbled across... a phenomenon for which we know next to nothing
about, safe for consumption.

Fire! Good! Fire is your friend!

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Steorn's HephaHeat Eclipses Rossi's ECat

2011-11-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 From Jwinter:

 ...

 But still Rossi's device does get the higher end - right up over a
 megawatt.  And it's market ready.

 Well, I must confess a personal opinion that I suspect Steorn is not
 dead yet! ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A

T



Re: [Vo]:Steorn's HephaHeat Eclipses Rossi's ECat

2011-11-18 Thread James Bowery
Steorn is not stating anything about the input power requirements for their
HephaHeat product in that product's web pages.  The personal communication
about 1kW was made regarding a FaceBook video of a device that might be
construed to be related but is not claimed to be related by the Steorn
HephaHeat pages.  It might also be construed, given the ambiguity, to be a
continuous power input drawn down as heat in short periods of time (say
during a shower).  Indeed, that is the interpretation given the 1kW
statement by many skeptics.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:03 AM, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote:

  I think Steorn must have got word of Rossi's E-Cat and decided to go one
 better.  Checkout http://tinyurl.com/6rg6pzu

 A clever gentleman at the bottom of the page has calculated the
 HephaHeat's coefficient of performance:
 ...the Orbo heater has a minimum output power of 346.12 kW with an input
 power of 1 kW, which yields a COP of *346*...

 Isn't that amazing.  That has to leave Rossi's E-Cat (with a COP of only
 around 6) for dead!

 But still Rossi's device does get the higher end - right up over a
 megawatt.  And it's market ready.

 So I think the sensible thing would a cross-licensing agreement between
 Steorn and Rossi - let Steorn include the E-Cat in their range of products
 to cover the top end, and let Rossi incorporate HephaHeat technology into
 his home units.  After all it seems HephaHeat doesn't need the
 complications of a catalyst and hydrogen feed, but simply runs from
 ordinary 50 or 60Hz mains power.  That's got to be an enormous advantage
 for home use.

 While we are considering the cross-licensing business, we shouldn't forget
 about Transaltec (English site at www.gammamanager.com) who Rossi has
 just accepted to market his ECat in Switzerland.  The only two products
 that this company now sells are very large - their 1.5 to 225 MW EBM power
 plants and now the Megawatt ECat.  I reckon Steorn's new HephaHeat device,
 and the even smaller powered Orbo motor would fill out the low end of their
 product range perfectly.  They would be able to offer Energy by Motion,
 Energy by Fusion, Energy by Foolishness and Energy by Mistake!  I am
 sure if they hired Sean as their marketing manager that they could make
 plenty of money.  As others have suggested long ago they might change the
 company's name to something more dynamic and star-studded - Sean's
 Connery for instance.

 But still I think the highlight for this week was reading about the man
 eating monsters that might have got Obama while he was trying to be seen
 but not eaten on mars!  Probably the most amazing thing about this report
 is the incredibly large percentage of serious comments at the bottom of the
 page with almost no one taking the mickey!  Maybe they have a rule against
 that like on vortex-l.

 But I had a serious question about this article - anyone know why some of
 these predators on mars are impossible to evade if encountered?  Even
 Arni managed to beat the predator that visited Earth so why couldn't Obama
 use some of Arni's tricks to evade these predators?  Here is a link if you
 want to look for an answer http://tinyurl.com/79teosh or direct
 http://tinyurl.com/7rx4taj



Re: [Vo]:Steorn's HephaHeat Eclipses Rossi's ECat

2011-11-18 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:49 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steorn is not stating anything about the input power requirements for
 their HephaHeat product in that product's web pages.  The personal
 communication about 1kW was made regarding a FaceBook video of a device
 that might be construed to be related but is not claimed to be related by
 the Steorn HephaHeat pages.  It might also be construed, given the
 ambiguity, to be a continuous power input drawn down as heat in short
 periods of time (say during a shower).  Indeed, that is the interpretation
 given the 1kW statement by many skeptics.


Steorn has never sold a product.  They are exceedingly unlikely to sell
this to anyone.  Not more than once anyway.