[voyager] Re: What?
On 20/11/03, Matt Sealey wrote: Unfortunately for 68k users, until a 600MHz 68080 appears, some of the functionality of modern browsers is going to be far beyond your reach anyway, the same way that Aweb has split now into APL and KHTML versions to accomodate both, Voyager may do the same. Anyone using Amithlon has in effect a 600MHz (or faster) 68040. This particularly benefits the Flash plugin. No need for special editions for 68k users, IMO. Regards -- Don Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: What?
On 20/11/03, Julian Aronowitz wrote: What we do expect from the developers of such things as Voyager and AWeb is to correct some of the inabilities or finish some of the upgrades to allow those programs to continue to be able to access sites. We do not expect to be able to swallow huge graphics in one bite or a lot of other things. We also expect to be clearly told when a particular operation cannot be done because of a situation -- whether speed or RAM or some other aspect. For example, there are more than one JAVA compilers for the Amiga. Why is there no statement whether they can work as an external plugin? AFAIK none of the Java ports for the Amiga handles graphics, so they are no use for web functions such as displaying VRML. Regards -- Don Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: What?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Cox Sent: 26 November 2003 14:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [voyager] Re: What? On 20/11/03, Matt Sealey wrote: Unfortunately for 68k users, until a 600MHz 68080 appears, some of the functionality of modern browsers is going to be far beyond your reach anyway, the same way that Aweb has split now into APL and KHTML versions to accomodate both, Voyager may do the same. Anyone using Amithlon has in effect a 600MHz (or faster) 68040. This particularly benefits the Flash plugin. No need for special editions for 68k users, IMO. I think you misunderstood. Voyager is going to use whatever OS functionality is available to do certain tasks. AmigaOS 3.x (and therefore Amithlon) has not and will never get such functionality. AmigaOS 4.x might, I know for a fact MorphOS has certain things in development as we speak. Amithlon.. well, it's a dead platform for all intents and purposes. Note, Voyager will *NEVER* include such functionality to try and work on slower machines with incapable Operating Systems, firstly because it will make Voyager about 10MB in size, and secondly because you'd find it unusable even if you had any memory left. -- Matt Sealey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: What?
On 26/11/03, Matt Sealey wrote: Unfortunately for 68k users, until a 600MHz 68080 appears, some of the functionality of modern browsers is going to be far beyond your reach anyway, the same way that Aweb has split now into APL and KHTML versions to accomodate both, Voyager may do the same. Anyone using Amithlon has in effect a 600MHz (or faster) 68040. This particularly benefits the Flash plugin. No need for special editions for 68k users, IMO. I think you misunderstood. Your original post suggests that the problem is the slow speed of the CPU. This certainly makes Flash almost useless on a real Amiga. It is not a problem on Amithlon. Voyager is going to use whatever OS functionality is available to do certain tasks. AmigaOS 3.x (and therefore Amithlon) has not and will never get such functionality. What functions do you have in mind? AmigaOS 4.x might, I know for a fact MorphOS has certain things in development as we speak. Amithlon.. well, it's a dead platform for all intents and purposes. There are probably more Amithlon users than MorphOS users. Note, Voyager will *NEVER* include such functionality to try and work on slower machines with incapable Operating Systems, firstly because it will make Voyager about 10MB in size, and secondly because you'd find it unusable even if you had any memory left. Memory is not a problem on Amithlon. Why are you talking about slower machines again? An Amithlon setup can be a great deal faster than an AmigaOne or a Pegasos. Obviously if the authors want to make Voyager MorphOS-only they are free to do so. That is what I am expecting. Regards -- Don Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: What?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Cox Sent: 26 November 2003 16:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [voyager] Re: What? I think you misunderstood. Your original post suggests that the problem is the slow speed of the CPU. This certainly makes Flash almost useless on a real Amiga. It is not a problem on Amithlon. I have replied personally to keep this off the list. -- Matt Sealey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[voyager] Re: What?
In a message of 26-Nov-03 Matt Sealey wrote: Your original post suggests that the problem is the slow speed of the CPU. This certainly makes Flash almost useless on a real Amiga. It is not a problem on Amithlon. I have replied personally to keep this off the list. Why? I find that your reply could be very interesting and informative. -- Uffe Holst
[voyager] Re: What?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Uffe Holst Sent: 26 November 2003 20:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [voyager] Re: What? In a message of 26-Nov-03 Matt Sealey wrote: Your original post suggests that the problem is the slow speed of the CPU. This certainly makes Flash almost useless on a real Amiga. It is not a problem on Amithlon. I have replied personally to keep this off the list. Why? I find that your reply could be very interesting and informative. Because it usually spirals out of control with people whining that we neglect them and our opinions suck etc. I'll forward the reply to you. -- Matt Sealey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
