Re: [vpp-dev] IRC SPAM

[Burt Silverman]

That pidgin client is totally bizarre. For hours it would not cooperate
regardless of what I told it. When it decided to cooperate, then even if I
removed my password information, it still let me log in without shunting me
to the land of undesirables. Meanwhile, I found the hidden trick to make
the webchat interface work. Weird.


Burt

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Thomas F Herbert 
wrote:

>
>
> On 08/22/2018 02:01 PM, Burt Silverman wrote:
>
> I registered and verified, but when I try to log in I always go to the
> unregistered area. How do I log in now? The instructions are pretty useless
> for a non SASL client user.
>
> I can only tell you my settings for irc. Hopefully it will help.
> I  use pidgin client.
>
> I log on with my username and password and it is set for SSL, and
> authenticates with SASL. I connect to irc.freenode.net
>
>
> Burt
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> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Vanessa Valderrama <
> vvalderr...@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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>>
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>>- https://wiki.fd.io/view/IRC
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Re: [vpp-dev] IRC SPAM

[Burt Silverman]

I get SSL Handshake Failed when I try that.

Burt

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Thomas F Herbert 
wrote:

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>
> On 08/22/2018 02:01 PM, Burt Silverman wrote:
>
> I registered and verified, but when I try to log in I always go to the
> unregistered area. How do I log in now? The instructions are pretty useless
> for a non SASL client user.
>
> I can only tell you my settings for irc. Hopefully it will help.
> I  use pidgin client.
>
> I log on with my username and password and it is set for SSL, and
> authenticates with SASL. I connect to irc.freenode.net
>
>
> Burt
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Vanessa Valderrama <
> vvalderr...@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
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>> channels.
>>
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>>- https://wiki.fd.io/view/IRC
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[vpp-dev] received signal SIGSEGV and vpp restarts continuously

[carlito nueno]

Hi all,

I am using vpp 18.10 master branch and have 6 tap devices: lstack[1...6]

startup.conf
unix {
nodaemon
log /var/log/vpp/vpp.log
full-coredump
cli-listen /run/vpp/cli.sock
gid vpp
startup-config /home/testvpp/vpp.conf
}

api-trace {
on
}

api-segment {
gid vpp
}

cpu {
main-core 2
corelist-workers 3
}

nat {
translation hash buckets 16000
translation hash memory 268435456
max translations per user 128
}

dpdk {
num-mbufs 32768
}

Error:
Started vector packet processing engine.
vpp[10192]: vlib_plugin_early_init:361: plugin path
/usr/lib/vpp_plugins:/usr/lib64/vpp_plugins
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: abf_plugin.so (ACL
based Forwarding)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: acl_plugin.so (Access
Control Lists)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: avf_plugin.so (Intel
Adaptive Virtual Function (AVF) Device Plugin)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:191: Loaded plugin: cdp_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: dpdk_plugin.so (Data
Plane Development Kit (DPDK))
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: flowprobe_plugin.so
(Flow per Packet)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: gbp_plugin.so (Group
Based Policy)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: gtpu_plugin.so (GTPv1-U)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: igmp_plugin.so (IGMP messaging)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: ila_plugin.so
(Identifier-locator addressing for IPv6)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: ioam_plugin.so (Inbound OAM)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:117: Plugin disabled (default): ixge_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: l2e_plugin.so (L2 Emulation)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: lacp_plugin.so (Link
Aggregation Control Protocol)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: lb_plugin.so (Load Balancer)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: mactime_plugin.so
(Time-based MAC source-address filter)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: map_plugin.so (Mapping
of address and port (MAP))
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: memif_plugin.so
(Packet Memory Interface (experimetal))
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: nat_plugin.so (Network
Address Translation)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: pppoe_plugin.so (PPPoE)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: srv6ad_plugin.so
(Dynamic SRv6 proxy)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: srv6am_plugin.so
(Masquerading SRv6 proxy)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: srv6as_plugin.so
(Static SRv6 proxy)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: stn_plugin.so (VPP
Steals the NIC for Container integration)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: tlsmbedtls_plugin.so
(mbedtls based TLS Engine)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:189: Loaded plugin: tlsopenssl_plugin.so
(openssl based TLS Engine)
vpp[10192]: load_one_plugin:117: Plugin disabled (default): unittest_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: clib_elf_parse_file: open
`linux-vdso.so.1': No such file or directory
/usr/bin/vpp[10192]: clib_elf_parse_file: open `linux-vdso.so.1': No
such file or directory
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: cdp_test_plugin.so
/usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded plugin: cdp_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: vxlan_gpe_ioam_export_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: udp_ping_test_plugin.so
/usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded plugin:
vxlan_gpe_ioam_export_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: dpdk_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: memif_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: nat_test_plugin.so
/usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded plugin:
udp_ping_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: lacp_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: mactime_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: ioam_pot_test_plugin.so
/usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded plugin: dpdk_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: ioam_trace_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: avf_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: stn_test_plugin.so
/usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded plugin: memif_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: map_test_plugin.so
vpp[10192]: /usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded
plugin: lb_test_plugin.so
/usr/bin/vpp[10192]: load_one_vat_plugin:67: Loaded plugin: nat_test_plugin.so

Re: [vpp-dev] IRC SPAM

[Thomas F Herbert]

On 08/22/2018 02:01 PM, Burt Silverman wrote:
I registered and verified, but when I try to log in I always go to the 
unregistered area. How do I log in now? The instructions are pretty 
useless for a non SASL client user.

I can only tell you my settings for irc. Hopefully it will help.
I  use pidgin client.

I log on with my username and password and it is set for SSL, and 
authenticates with SASL. I connect to irc.freenode.net


Burt

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Vanessa Valderrama 
> wrote:


In effort to prevent IRC SPAM we are requiring registration in the
FD.io channels.

  * The following channels will require registration to join the
channel
  o https://wiki.fd.io/view/IRC

  * Please follow these steps to register on Freenode
  o https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration


Thank you,
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Re: [vpp-dev] IRC SPAM

[Burt Silverman]

I registered and verified, but when I try to log in I always go to the
unregistered area. How do I log in now? The instructions are pretty useless
for a non SASL client user.

Burt

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Re: [vpp-dev] [nsh_sfc-dev] IRC SPAM

[Joel M. Halpern]

Specifically, when I try to use the /connect command the instructions 
call for I get: Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator


Yours,
Joel

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[vpp-dev] IRC SPAM

[Vanessa Valderrama]

In effort to prevent IRC SPAM we are requiring registration in the FD.io
channels. 

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Re: [vpp-dev] Cavium ThunderX (ARM64) - Crash in VPP (Kubernetes + Contiv-VPP network plugin)

[Stanislav Chlebec]

Hi Neale
I attached the file api_post_mortem.43407
to the  issue https://jira.fd.io/browse/VPP-1394
Thanks
Stan

From: Neale Ranns (nranns) [mailto:nra...@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 5:02 PM
To: Stanislav Chlebec ; Nitin Saxena 
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Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] Cavium ThunderX (ARM64) - Crash in VPP (Kubernetes + 
Contiv-VPP network plugin)

Hi Stan,

What route were you adding at the time? Can you give me the post-mortem API 
dump [1]

/neale

[1] see https://wiki.fd.io/view/VPP/BugReports


From: mailto:vpp-dev@lists.fd.io>> on behalf of Stanislav 
Chlebec 
mailto:stanislav.chle...@pantheon.tech>>
Date: Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 16:41
To: Nitin Saxena mailto:nitin.sax...@cavium.com>>, 
"vpp-dev@lists.fd.io" 
mailto:vpp-dev@lists.fd.io>>
Subject: [vpp-dev] Cavium ThunderX (ARM64) - Crash in VPP (Kubernetes + 
Contiv-VPP network plugin)

Hello all

Could you please help mi with this issue:
https://jira.fd.io/browse/VPP-1394

Thanks.
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Re: [vpp-dev] Endless NAT Questions

[Jon Loeliger]

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 3:31 AM, Matus Fabian -X (matfabia - PANTHEON
TECHNOLOGIES at Cisco)  wrote:

> Hi Jon,
>
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> I’ve updated nat_show_config_reply https://gerrit.fd.io/r/#/c/14411/,
> hope it is all here now
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> Matus
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Awesome!  I have +1'ed it!

Thank you!
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Re: [vpp-dev] FD.io CSIT-18.07 v1.0 report published

[Ray Kinsella]

This is a huge achievement - congratulations

Ray K

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Subject: [pma_tools-dev] FD.io CSIT-18.07 v1.0 report published

Hi All,

FD.io CSIT-18.07 report has been published on FD.io docs site:

  html: https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/
  pdf: https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/_static/archive/csit_rls1807.pdf

Many thanks to All in CSIT and FD.io community who contributed and made
CSIT-18.07 happen!

CSIT-18.07 is the first release able to use the brand new FD.io labs and 
testing servers equipped the latest Intel Xeon Skylake processors. See point 3. 
below for throughput comparison between Skylake and Haswell testbeds.
This is finally making VPP code shine in a modern compute world :)

The labs were long time in the making and they have finally materialized. 
Thanks again to All who made it happen!

CSIT-18.07 report includes much more test results data and report html layout 
got revamped quite a bit, striving to improve presentation clarity and 
browsability. Test environment descriptions also got a substantial makeover.

VPP points of note in the report:

  1. VPP release notes
a. Changes in CSIT-18.07 [1]
b. Known issues [2]

  2. VPP performance graphs
a. Throughput [3]
b. Speedup Multi-Core [4]
c. Latency [5]

  3. VPP performance comparisons
b. VPP-18.07 vs. VPP-18.04 [6]
c. 3-Node Skylake vs. 3-Node Haswell testbed types [7]

  4. VPP performance test details
a. Results [8]
b. Configuration [9]
c. Run-time telemetry [10]

DPDK Testpmd and L3fwd performance sections follow similar structure.

Functional tests, including VPP, HoneyComb, NSH_SFC and DMM are all included in 
the report.

Welcome all comments, best by email to csit-...@lists.fd.io.

Cheers,
-Maciek
On behalf of FD.io CSIT.

[1] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/vpp_performance_tests/csit_release_notes.html#changes-in-csit-release
[2] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/vpp_performance_tests/csit_release_notes.html#known-issues

[3] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/vpp_performance_tests/packet_throughput_graphs/index.html
[4] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/vpp_performance_tests/throughput_speedup_multi_core/index.html
[5] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/vpp_performance_tests/packet_latency_graphs/index.html

[6] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/vpp_performance_tests/comparisons/current_vs_previous_release.html
[7] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/vpp_performance_tests/comparisons/3n-skx_vs_3n-hsw_testbeds.html

[8] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/detailed_test_results/vpp_performance_results/index.html
[9] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/test_configuration/vpp_performance_configuration/index.html
[10] 
https://docs.fd.io/csit/rls1807/report/test_operational_data/vpp_performance_operational_data/index.html
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Re: [vpp-dev] GoVPP is incompatible with vpp 18.07 #vpp #govpp #binapi

[akjosh]

Yeah my bad, It was just a warning message. Rest of the things are working fine.

Thanks,
Akshay
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Re: [vpp-dev] VPP Memory usage

[Andrew Yourtchenko]

Dear Rubina,

ok so looks like the usage within the ACL heap between the start and
the end of your tests increases by 1K, which is tiny - so indeed what
you are seeing in the RSS increase could be the allocations from
within bihash (which does its own memory management).

About decreasing RX I already wrote what I think is happening: because
as you reach the limit of sessions, the increasing number of sessions
end up as transient, and are reused for the new transient session
creation as the new traffic hits, and this is expensive (at this point
in time).

I will need to experiment a bit more to add more telemetry for
debugging this kind of issue - I will do that in a week's time or so
after I am done with other current work items and send you an update.

--a

On 8/21/18, Rubina Bianchi  wrote:
> Hi dear Andrew
>
> I once again ran previous scenario and logged previous outputs plus "vppctl
> show acl memory".
> I also send you T-rex configs, 60s and 1500s output.
>
> As you can see during this period RSS is increasing and Total-rx is
> decreasing.
> I assume I didn't get my answer. Why does my Total-rx decrease during my
> test and RSS still increases?
>
> Thanks,
> Sincerely
> 
> From: Andrew  Yourtchenko 
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 10:25 PM
> To: Rubina Bianchi
> Cc: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io
> Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] VPP Memory usage
>
> Dear Rubina,
>
> On 8/20/18, Rubina Bianchi  wrote:
>> Hi dear Andrew
>>
>> What we were talked before was about "Worker Thread Deadlock".
>
> We had that discussion in march or may. :-)
>
> The one I had in mind was another thread, starting with your mail on
> January 30. I forwarded to you unicast :-)
>
>>
>> I tried to test scenario as you explained and started with 1M entry and
>> after that I doubled it at each run.
>> When I test with 4M entry size, I logged two things:
>> 1. ps aux | grep vpp
>> 2. First 5 lines of "vppctl show acl-plugin session"
>>
>> At first, I've run VPP and configured it with script that I attached to
>> previous email.
>> After that I run my logger script.
>> Finally I run Trex with this command: ./t-rex-64 --cfg
>> cfg/trex_config.yaml
>> -f cap2/sfr.yaml -m 50 -c 3 -d 1 -p
>> After tracing VPP logs I found some signs of leakage. I mean in the logs
>> of
>> VPP, RSS (6th parameter in ps aux command) is increasing continuously
>> (sometimes more and sometimes less) but on the other side, Trex Total-Rx
>> is
>> decreasing at the same time.
>> After about 3000 seconds, I stopped Trex and wait until session table
>> being
>> cleared. But no change in RSS happens.
>> Then, I run Trex again without any change and again I saw the increase of
>> RSS while the Trex Total-Rx is decreasing.
>
> Based on the counters, in this test we are continuously churning
> through the half-open sessions, because we are hitting the maximum
> session limit. Session creation is quite expensive (at least at this
> point, I did not optimize that code much yet).
>
>>
>> This is my ram status when vpp is stop:
>> root@debian-hp:~# free -m
>>  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
>> Mem:129135   3414 125721 12 99591
>> -/+ buffers/cache:   2723 126412
>> Swap: 2518  0   2518
>>
>> I also attached my logs to this email. This logs are gathered every 20
>> seconds.
>>
>> In 40M entry size I saw this behavior too, but It happens much faster
>> than
>> 4M entry size.
>
> Yes, because you create more sessions and use more buckets, I think
> (though this is a speculation at this point, since we dont have the
> memory outputs).
>
> What i sthe maximum amount of simultaneous sessions on the T-rex and
> what is the connection per second rate ?
>
>> I also have a question about your phrase  of "Using this method you can
>> arrive to the number of maximum connections that your memory
>> configuration
>> can support".
>> Is there any formula to config init.conf in an efficient way? Because VPP
>> didn't return any error about misconfiguration.
>
> No, there is no formula, unfortunately - hence I can not print an
> error about a misconfiguration.
>
> You can use the "show acl memory" as I described in the other mail, to
> see what the memory usage in the session bihash is and what is the
> number of active elements - could you have a look at doing that ?
>
> --a
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sincerely
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Andrew  Yourtchenko 
>> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 8:28 AM
>> To: Rubina Bianchi
>> Cc: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io
>> Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] VPP Memory usage
>>
>> Dear Rubina,
>>
>> The ACL plugin does all the necessary allocations at startup for all data
>> structures except the connection bihash.
>>
>> You would need to check the current number of the connections as your
>> test
>> progresses. I believe we had a communication a while ago regarding the
>> gradual growth of background memory usage within 

Re: [vpp-dev] Endless NAT Questions

[Matus Fabian -X (matfabia - PANTHEON TECHNOLOGIES@Cisco) via Lists.Fd.Io]

Hi Jon,

I’ve updated nat_show_config_reply https://gerrit.fd.io/r/#/c/14411/, hope it 
is all here now

Matus


From: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io  On Behalf Of Matus Fabian -X 
(matfabia - PANTHEON TECHNOLOGIES@Cisco) via Lists.Fd.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:45 AM
To: Jon Loeliger ; vpp-dev 
Cc: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io
Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] Endless NAT Questions

I think nat_show_config_reply should be augmented with some fields reflecting 
newer features.
You are correct deterministic and endpoint-dependent are mutually exclusive.

Matus


From: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io 
mailto:vpp-dev@lists.fd.io>> On Behalf Of Jon Loeliger
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 10:39 PM
To: vpp-dev mailto:vpp-dev@lists.fd.io>>
Subject: [vpp-dev] Endless NAT Questions

Matus,

Should the nat_show_config_reply structure be augmented
to have the (newer) fields added to it?

I'm thinking specifically about:
- the nat64_* values
- the dpo selection,
- the dslite values,
- the endpoint-dependent indication.

Also, it looks like "deterministic" and "endpoint-dependent" are
mutually exclusive.   Is that correct?

Thanks,
jdl

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