[Vserver] Re: Vserver Digest, Vol 16, Issue 14

2005-07-12 Thread Benjamin GIGON
 Hello,
 
 We just compiled RPMs of the kernel for Mandrake 10.2 *(should work with
 10.0 and 10.1 also but this is untested)*.
 
 http://download.revolutionlinux.com/Vservers/mandrake/10.2/i586/
 
 This is also a urpmi source :
 urpmi.addmedia --update vserver-rl \
 http://download.revolutionlinux.com/Vservers/mandrake/10.2/i586/
 
 Then you can
 urpmi kernel-vs2.6
 
 And you should be able to test the latest release...
 
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Hi Ben,
for your Kernel 2.6, it's a Official Mandriva Kernel with vs patchs or just a
official 2.6 and vs patchs ?


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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver Digest, Vol 16, Issue 14

2005-07-12 Thread Benoît des Ligneris
Hello,

It is vanilla kernel + vserver patch with .config from Mandriva 10.2
(well cooker 2.6.12.2 in fact) in order to have as much similar
modules as possible. As a consequence : no supermount, etc.

Following the Mandriva kernel with the vs patch will require much more
manpower  kernel expertise than we have ;-(

Ben

Benjamin GIGON a écrit :
Hello,

We just compiled RPMs of the kernel for Mandrake 10.2 *(should work with
10.0 and 10.1 also but this is untested)*.

http://download.revolutionlinux.com/Vservers/mandrake/10.2/i586/

This is also a urpmi source :
urpmi.addmedia --update vserver-rl \
http://download.revolutionlinux.com/Vservers/mandrake/10.2/i586/

Then you can
urpmi kernel-vs2.6

And you should be able to test the latest release...

Ben
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 Hi Ben,
 for your Kernel 2.6, it's a Official Mandriva Kernel with vs patchs or just a
 official 2.6 and vs patchs ?
 
 
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Re: [Vserver] Firewall between two vserver

2005-07-12 Thread o . dietz
Hi Sam,

 Well, using FWBuilder, which generally Just Works™, the commands it
 generates look like this;

 $IPTABLES -A INPUT  -i lo -p tcp  \
 -s 192.168.255.49 -d 192.168.255.0/24 --dport 22 \
 -m state --state NEW  -j ACCEPT

 I think the packets end up going through PREROUTING, INPUT and OUTPUT,
 but not FORWARD.

 However, note that they are going via the lo interface, even though
 in this case the servers are all set up on interface dummy0.

yepp, works now great :-))

Thank you very very much!
Oliver
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[Vserver] Vserver 2.0, prod server and news

2005-07-12 Thread Nicolas Costes

Hello, all !

I've been running a vserver host (2.6.9-vs1.9.3) for several months now 
(~6), and it never failed or something. Ok, the load is quite low 
(~0.00 ;-)), but there is 10 vs in it, for Cups printing, samba sharing, 
MySQL, Apache, etc... Providing services for 4 people (Hence he load).

It's now server-kill time, and i'm reinstalling/upgrading all my file 
servers. I thought it was time to try the latest version of 
linux-vserver, but I know that it's still RC (6, IIRC). Well, I'm 
planning to turn all my file servers in vserver hosts, then create one or 
more vservers in it to perform the same task they did before. But with 
the advantage to have the possibility to create vservers here or there to 
fit the needs...

So, is it reasonable to do this, knowing that once done, it'll be locked 
for an entire year ? Are VS2.0 mature/stable enough ?

One last: Are there any important changes that may make 2.0 work 
differently than 1.9.3 ? Do I have to learn again all from the 
start ;-) ?

Thanks.

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Re: [Vserver] Vserver 2.0, prod server and news

2005-07-12 Thread Martin
 So, is it reasonable to do this, knowing that once done, it'll be locked 
 for an entire year ? Are VS2.0 mature/stable enough ?
Depends what you mean by locked.  In a year I would suspect a number of
user land security updates being needed, quite possibly kernel updates
as well.  As long as you test it properly to start with I don't think
you'll find adding vservers will alter the stability as versus any
custom kernel.  IMHO, no hard evidence.

 One last: Are there any important changes that may make 2.0 work 
 differently than 1.9.3 ? Do I have to learn again all from the 
 start ;-) ?
There are are some new features but AFAIK no major ones have been
removed so what worked before should work now.

Cheers,
 - Martin


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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver Digest, Vol 16, Issue 14

2005-07-12 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 07:19:16AM -0400, Benoît des Ligneris wrote:
 Hello,
 
 It is vanilla kernel + vserver patch with .config from Mandriva 10.2
 (well cooker 2.6.12.2 in fact) in order to have as much similar
 modules as possible. As a consequence : no supermount, etc.
 
 Following the Mandriva kernel with the vs patch will require much more
 manpower  kernel expertise than we have ;-(

well, supermount for example is easy,  patched it myself
for some time, let me know if you are interested in
a linux-vserver 'addon' with such stuff ...

best,
Herbert

 Ben
 
 Benjamin GIGON a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 We just compiled RPMs of the kernel for Mandrake 10.2 *(should work with
 10.0 and 10.1 also but this is untested)*.
 
 http://download.revolutionlinux.com/Vservers/mandrake/10.2/i586/
 
 This is also a urpmi source :
 urpmi.addmedia --update vserver-rl \
 http://download.revolutionlinux.com/Vservers/mandrake/10.2/i586/
 
 Then you can
 urpmi kernel-vs2.6
 
 And you should be able to test the latest release...
 
 Ben
 -- 
 Benoit des Ligneris Ph. D.
 President de Revolution Linuxhttp://www.revolutionlinux.com/
  
  
  Hi Ben,
  for your Kernel 2.6, it's a Official Mandriva Kernel with vs patchs or just 
  a
  official 2.6 and vs patchs ?
  
  
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Re: [Vserver] Problems building util-vserver-0.30.207 Debian woody

2005-07-12 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 11:39:43AM +0930, Darryl Ross wrote:
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 Herbert Poetzl wrote:
 
  yep, but you do not necessarily need to 'build'
  it on the machine you want to install it *hint*
 
 You could give us some credit.
 
  no, I'm just saying that ip hiding is not a matter
  of newer tools, it primarily requires a recent 
  kernel and linux-vserver patch ...
 
 Just using the 1.9.5 kernel patch does not seem to hide the IP addresses.
 
 Doing some reading I found something which said that the default is to
 not hide the addresses and a flag must be given to do this. This is
 contrary to my experiences on a RH box, but does match the behavior I'm
 seeing on these Woody boxes.

http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/vflags-0.02.tar.bz2

best,
Herbert

 The woody kernel was built with the following options:
 
 #
 # Linux VServer
 #
 CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY=y
 CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACYNET=y
 # CONFIG_VSERVER_PROC_SECURE is not set
 # CONFIG_VSERVER_HARDCPU is not set
 # CONFIG_INOXID_NONE is not set
 # CONFIG_INOXID_UID16 is not set
 # CONFIG_INOXID_GID16 is not set
 CONFIG_INOXID_UGID24=y
 # CONFIG_INOXID_INTERN is not set
 # CONFIG_INOXID_RUNTIME is not set
 # CONFIG_VSERVER_DEBUG is not set
 
 Please note that we're still using the legacy config structure on the
 particular machine we're having the current problem because we're having
 other issues with the new config structure.
 
 Regards
 Darryl
 
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Re: [Vserver] Problems building util-vserver-0.30.207 Debian woody

2005-07-12 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 11:40:29AM +0930, Darryl Ross wrote:
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 Resending as I used the wrong source address.
 
 Herbert Poetzl wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 08:04:49AM +0930, Mike O'Connor wrote:\
 The reason why I need to have a woody version of the tools is that is
 just to hard to upgrade all the systems I have out there, particularly
 as they a mostly in data center in places a long way a way.
 
  hmm, and I always thought that gentoo uses source only
  packages not debian :)
 
 The problem we are having is that we have a large number of Debian Woody
  machines deployed which are are not able to easily upgrade to Sarge.
 
 Smiley aside, the errors Mike posted were from attempting to backport
 the version of the tools in Sarge to Woody. We'd love to try a recent
 compiler if you can let us know where one is for Woody!

http://gcc.gnu.org/releases.html

 The other option would be if someone could tell me how I could hide the
 ip addresses of other client OS's using the old tools, this would delay
 my requirments to upgrades.
 
  it requires a newer kernel not newer tools ...
 
 As far as I can work out it requires both.

http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/

 vserver2:/etc/vservers# uname -r
 2.6.11.6-smp-vs.1.9.5
 
 I believe the behavior changed at 1.9.5 for how the interfaces are
 configured and hidden. We can't specify the flag required to hide the
 addresses using version 0.30-6 of the tools and we can't build the new
 tools on Woody.

nonsense ...

 When we enter the vservers on any of the machines we've done a kernel
 upgrade on and do an ifconfig, we can see all of the IP addresses that
 are assigned to the machine. This means that sendmail cannot send mail
 between different vservers on the same host because it thinks it's
 sending to itself. ('Oh, that resolves to my IP address, must be talking
 to myself. Don't want to do that!')
 
 Downgrading the kernel is not an option for both security and other
 required features.
 
 Is there some way we can build the 0.30.204 util-vserver tools on Woody
 (or has someone already done it?)

get a gcc/binutils,  build them yourself, build a 
recent dietlibc, build the tools, make your binary 
package install it on your woody system ...

HTH,
Herbert

 Regards
 Darryl
 
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Re: [Vserver] More FC4 problems

2005-07-12 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 09:57:24PM -0700, Eric Jorgensen wrote:
 I usually try to be more self-sufficient than this,
 but I can't seem to get a vserver created under fedora
 core 4.  I am running 2.6.11.11-vs2.0-rc4 kernel, and
 vserver-utils 0.30.207.  The command that I'm using
 is:
 
 vserver --verbose test4 build --force -m yum --
 --debug -d fc4
 
 I've been trying to see why it doesn't work, but can't
 seem to make any progress.  I'm attaching the
 debugging output in hopes that someone can spot
 something and help me out.
 
 If more information is needed, I can provide it.

please submit a bugreport on savannah (for util-vserver)
after you verified that the mainline tools 0.30.207
give you the same results (if that was a fc4 package)

TIA,
Herbert

 Thanks in advance,
 
 jorgy
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[Vserver] Re: Vserver 2.0, prod server and news

2005-07-12 Thread Nicolas Costes
Le Mardi 12 Juillet 2005 15:48, Martin a écrit :
  So, is it reasonable to do this, knowing that once done, it'll be
  locked for an entire year ? Are VS2.0 mature/stable enough ?
 Depends what you mean by locked.  In a year I would suspect a number of
 user land security updates being needed, quite possibly kernel updates
 as well.  As long as you test it properly to start with I don't think
 you'll find adding vservers will alter the stability as versus any
 custom kernel.  IMHO, no hard evidence.

Well, I've got to setup my file servers now. But after that, I won't be 
able to re-install nor get them down until july next year ;-)

I don't plan to add many Vservers on those boxes, as I said, they will 
host one or two for a start. I don't even plan to use advanced 
functionalities like NgNet, unification,etc...

What I want to know is that if I setup my file servers now with the last 
2.0 RC, is it risky, provided that once installed I cannot touch these 
servers until july 2006 ?

The only thing that'll be done is individual security updates to the 
hosted vservers and the host. But I do not want to touch the kernel...

The load will be low : These are Samba file servers for ~120 accounts and 
max. 30-40 people connected at a time, for each host : I usually peak at 
0.15 load.

  One last: Are there any important changes that may make 2.0 work
  differently than 1.9.3 ? Do I have to learn again all from the
  start ;-) ?

 There are are some new features but AFAIK no major ones have been
 removed so what worked before should work now.

The only thing I do with my vservers is : Build them (- m skeleton), fill 
them with urpmi --root, lauch them, and play ! Basically, the only 
commands I use are vserver xxx (build|start|stop|enter). So nothing of 
this has changed since 1.9.3 ?

Thx ;-)

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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver 2.0, prod server and news

2005-07-12 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 04:37:28PM +0200, Nicolas Costes wrote:
 Le Mardi 12 Juillet 2005 15:48, Martin a écrit :
   So, is it reasonable to do this, knowing that once done, it'll be
   locked for an entire year ? Are VS2.0 mature/stable enough ?
  Depends what you mean by locked.  In a year I would suspect a number of
  user land security updates being needed, quite possibly kernel updates
  as well.  As long as you test it properly to start with I don't think
  you'll find adding vservers will alter the stability as versus any
  custom kernel.  IMHO, no hard evidence.
 
 Well, I've got to setup my file servers now. But after that, I won't be 
 able to re-install nor get them down until july next year ;-)
 
 I don't plan to add many Vservers on those boxes, as I said, they will 
 host one or two for a start. I don't even plan to use advanced 
 functionalities like NgNet, unification,etc...
 
 What I want to know is that if I setup my file servers now with the last 
 2.0 RC, is it risky, provided that once installed I cannot touch these 
 servers until july 2006 ?

I'd wait for 2.0 if possible (and at least for rc7, if not)

best,
Herbert

 The only thing that'll be done is individual security updates to the 
 hosted vservers and the host. But I do not want to touch the kernel...
 
 The load will be low : These are Samba file servers for ~120 accounts and 
 max. 30-40 people connected at a time, for each host : I usually peak at 
 0.15 load.
 
   One last: Are there any important changes that may make 2.0 work
   differently than 1.9.3 ? Do I have to learn again all from the
   start ;-) ?
 
  There are are some new features but AFAIK no major ones have been
  removed so what worked before should work now.
 
 The only thing I do with my vservers is : Build them (- m skeleton), fill 
 them with urpmi --root, lauch them, and play ! Basically, the only 
 commands I use are vserver xxx (build|start|stop|enter). So nothing of 
 this has changed since 1.9.3 ?
 
 Thx ;-)
 
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[Vserver] Re: Vserver 2.0, prod server and news

2005-07-12 Thread Nicolas Costes
Le Mardi 12 Juillet 2005 18:12, Herbert Poetzl a écrit :
 I'd wait for 2.0 if possible (and at least for rc7, if not)

Hello, Herbert ;-)

Er... You mean rc6 has problems ? Well, can I use safely rc5 or older ?
Or maybe rc7 will be released in a few days ?

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[Vserver] Stopping a vserver which config dir has been deleted

2005-07-12 Thread Nicolas Costes

Ahem...

I made a mistake : I wanted to delete a vserver, and I just 
erased /etc/vserver_name. Then, when I wanted to 
delete /vservers/vserver_name, I got errors : The vserver was still 
running :(((

So, the processes still run in their contexts, but I dont know how to kill 
them, I mean, I want to totally erase this vserver...

Any ideas ?

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Re: [Vserver] Stopping a vserver which config dir has been deleted

2005-07-12 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy


Lookup the xid of the vserver (e.g. using vserver-stat), then:

# vkill --xid xid -s TERM 
# vkill --xid xid -s KILL


Grisha

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Nicolas Costes wrote:



Ahem...

I made a mistake : I wanted to delete a vserver, and I just
erased /etc/vserver_name. Then, when I wanted to
delete /vservers/vserver_name, I got errors : The vserver was still
running :(((

So, the processes still run in their contexts, but I dont know how to kill
them, I mean, I want to totally erase this vserver...

Any ideas ?

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[Vserver] Re: Stopping a vserver which config dir has been deleted

2005-07-12 Thread Nicolas Costes
Le Mardi 12 Juillet 2005 20:27, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy a écrit :
 Lookup the xid of the vserver (e.g. using vserver-stat), then:
 # vkill --xid xid -s TERM
 # vkill --xid xid -s KILL

Worked like a charm, thanks a lot :-) !

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[Vserver] Ports no open

2005-07-12 Thread Martin Archanco
Hello

My vserver funtionallity, the open ports is open in the vserver. The
ports open is 80, 110, 2081 and others..

But not i cant listen ports mysql and i cant listen port 25 for postfix.

The error mysql is 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql
STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysql/mysql.pid
050712 15:01:43  mysqld ended

the log is 

050712 15:01:43  mysqld started
050712 15:01:43 Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission
denied
050712 15:01:43 Do you already have another mysqld server running on
socket: /var/run/mysql/mysql.sock ?
050712 15:01:43 Aborting

050712 15:01:43 /usr/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown Complete

050712 15:01:43  mysqld ended

the mysql in server master is closed.

The error postfix is 
Jul 12 15:06:41 martin postfix[2155]: fatal: bad string length 0  1:
mydomain =

and no open port ...


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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver 2.0, prod server and news

2005-07-12 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 07:09:59PM +0200, Nicolas Costes wrote:
 Le Mardi 12 Juillet 2005 18:12, Herbert Poetzl a écrit :
  I'd wait for 2.0 if possible (and at least for rc7, if not)
 
 Hello, Herbert ;-)
 
 Er... You mean rc6 has problems ? Well, can I use safely rc5 or older ?
 Or maybe rc7 will be released in a few days ?

probably tonight ...

best,
Herbert

 
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