Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Per Andreas Buer
Herbert Poetzl wrote:

Greetings Community!

after some time of testing and ironing out minor
issues we proudly present the first stable release
for the 2.6 kernels ...
  

Great. Are there any changes from rc9?

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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas John

Hello!

Good Question! If diff'ed a little:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/linux-vserver$ diff patch-2.6.12.4-vs2.0.diff 
patch-2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc9.diff |grep -v +++ |grep -v \-\-\- |egrep -v 
^([0-9]+|..diff )

 -EXTRAVERSION = .4
 +EXTRAVERSION = .4-vs2.0
 -EXTRAVERSION = .3
 +EXTRAVERSION = .3-vs2.0-rc9
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/linux-vserver$

It seems that there is no change except extraversion. The old patch was 
vs. 2.6.12.3, the vs. 2.6.12.4, but it applies without any changes.


And: Is Ola aware of the release, so we may urge him so pack it in 
Debain Sid soon?


@herbert: It would make sense not to call the patches vs, becuase this 
could be misunderstood as versus - and it is not a patch versus an old 
2.0 


rgds,
Andreas

Per Andreas Buer wrote:

Herbert Poetzl wrote:



Greetings Community!

after some time of testing and ironing out minor
issues we proudly present the first stable release
for the 2.6 kernels ...




Great. Are there any changes from rc9?

Per
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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Kevin Pendleton

Andreas John wrote:


Hello!

Good Question! If diff'ed a little:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/linux-vserver$ diff patch-2.6.12.4-vs2.0.diff 
patch-2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc9.diff |grep -v +++ |grep -v \-\-\- |egrep 
-v ^([0-9]+|..diff )

 -EXTRAVERSION = .4
 +EXTRAVERSION = .4-vs2.0
 -EXTRAVERSION = .3
 +EXTRAVERSION = .3-vs2.0-rc9
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/linux-vserver$

It seems that there is no change except extraversion. The old patch 
was vs. 2.6.12.3, the vs. 2.6.12.4, but it applies without any changes.


And: Is Ola aware of the release, so we may urge him so pack it in 
Debain Sid soon?


@herbert: It would make sense not to call the patches vs, becuase 
this could be misunderstood as versus - and it is not a patch versus 
an old 2.0 


rgds,
Andreas

Also, you could look at the change log:  
http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog26


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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas John


Also, you could look at the change log:  
http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog26


That would be far so easy ;)

@herbert: Could you link the changelog form here: 
http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/ ?


rgds,
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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 04:44:21PM +0200, Andreas John wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Good Question! If diff'ed a little:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/linux-vserver$ diff patch-2.6.12.4-vs2.0.diff 
 patch-2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc9.diff |grep -v +++ |grep -v \-\-\- |egrep -v 
 ^([0-9]+|..diff )
  -EXTRAVERSION = .4
  +EXTRAVERSION = .4-vs2.0
  -EXTRAVERSION = .3
  +EXTRAVERSION = .3-vs2.0-rc9
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/linux-vserver$
 
 It seems that there is no change except extraversion. The old patch was 
 vs. 2.6.12.3, the vs. 2.6.12.4, but it applies without any changes.
 
 And: Is Ola aware of the release, so we may urge him so pack it in 
 Debain Sid soon?

actually also sarge would largely benefit from a stable
linux-vserver version (maybe introduced as bugfix?)

 @herbert: It would make sense not to call the patches vs, becuase
 this could be misunderstood as versus - and it is not a patch versus
 an old 2.0 

two letter acronym misinterpretation can always happen,
even if I call it 'xy' and vserver folks by now _know_
that we have the following schema:

 patch-base-XYvers-extra.diff 

... for patches which apply to base

 diff-version-a-version-b.diff

... for changes between versions

 delta-what-typeversion.diff

... for fixes, changes, addons ...

and XY was always 'vs' for linux-vserver since a long
time now ... so, sorry, but I don#t see a good reason
to change it now ...

best,
Herbert

 rgds,
 Andreas
 
 Per Andreas Buer wrote:
 Herbert Poetzl wrote:
 
 Greetings Community!
 
 after some time of testing and ironing out minor
 issues we proudly present the first stable release
 for the 2.6 kernels ...
 
 Great. Are there any changes from rc9?
 
 Per
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Re: [Vserver] util-vserver bug submissions

2005-08-08 Thread Jean-Christophe Petit

Hello,

I noticed also the #14034 bug behavior.
But it may be coming from the character - I use for the vservers ex:
/etc/vservers/centos3-test/...
/etc/vservers/centos4-test/...
because I don't have the problem with :
/etc/vservers/mserver1/...
/etc/vservers/mserver2/...

There is also a bug with the vwait that don't timeout after 30 seconds..

regards,

Kevin Pendleton wrote:

FYI, I have submitted the following bug reports/feature requests to 
Savannah on util-vserver:


#14034 Vserver shutdown does not remove IP address
#14033 vdlimit --all or vdlimit-stat  (Feature Request)
#14032 vsomething does not work properly
#14026 vdlimit performs vc_add_limit() before validation

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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Micah
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Andreas John wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Good Question! If diff'ed a little:

 And: Is Ola aware of the release, so we may urge him so pack it in
 Debain Sid soon?

I've been working on the debian package for the kernel-patch
(kernel-patch-vserver), and as soon as I saw the release last night, I
tested the patch against the latest kernel-source in debian
(linux-source-2.6.12), and then uploaded a new package with the new patch.

Also, the other day I was sick of people complaining that the
util-vserver tools were out of date in debian, so I filed a bug against
the package asking Ola to update them and he said he would do so right away.

micah

1. http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kernel-patch-vserver/news/1.html
2. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321659
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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas John

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Hello Micah!

Thanks for uploading the patch! Please forgive that  I didn't notice
that Ola is only responsible for util-vserver.
I'll change the my homegrown binary 2.6.12 686 (see linux-vserver.org)
to a compilation of your original Debian Sid release, which I provide
for the convenience of beginners (as well as a .208 .deb of util-vserver)

rgds,
Andreas



Micah wrote:
| Andreas John wrote:
|
|Hello!
|
|Good Question! If diff'ed a little:
|
|
|And: Is Ola aware of the release, so we may urge him so pack it in
|Debain Sid soon?
|
|
| I've been working on the debian package for the kernel-patch
| (kernel-patch-vserver), and as soon as I saw the release last night, I
| tested the patch against the latest kernel-source in debian
| (linux-source-2.6.12), and then uploaded a new package with the new patch.
|
| Also, the other day I was sick of people complaining that the
| util-vserver tools were out of date in debian, so I filed a bug against
| the package asking Ola to update them and he said he would do so right
away.
|
| micah
|
| 1. http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kernel-patch-vserver/news/1.html
| 2. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321659
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Re: [Vserver] Trivial Question #3: process limit (or is this a feature request?)

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas John

Dariush Pietrzak,,, wrote:

 Good luck to all!


Thanks!

Do I get it right, that there is no possibility to set per guest ulimits 
in the conf of vs20? I only found the possibility to set a ulimit or 
nproc flag in /etc/vservers/foo/flags, which is only for appying the 
current (i.e. the hosts) ulimit to the guest. I guess there can only be 
one ulimit in the (host) kernel, in our particular case for user root, 
so all guests share one common umlinit unless it set nproc in the flags?


---quote---
nproc
Limit the number of process in the vserver according to ulimit setting. 
Normally, ulimit is a per user thing. With this flag, it becomes a per 
vserver thing.

---

So, if I want to keep the guests umlimit reasonably low, I have to set 
the ulimit for root low


rgds,
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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Michael Stenzel
Hello!

Am Montag 08 August 2005 00:46 schrieb Herbert Poetzl:
 Greetings Community!

 after some time of testing and ironing out minor
 issues we proudly present the first stable release
 for the 2.6 kernels ...

 http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/
 (tools supposed to work fine on Mandrake 10.x)

Good Job man, vserver really rocks ;)
And you are on heise.de, look http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/62592

Greetings,
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Re: [Vserver] Trivial Question #3: process limit (or is this a feature request?)

2005-08-08 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 05:53:30PM +0200, Andreas John wrote:
 Dariush Pietrzak,,, wrote:
  Good luck to all!
 
 Thanks!
 
 Do I get it right, that there is no possibility to set per guest ulimits 
 in the conf of vs20? I only found the possibility to set a ulimit or 
 nproc flag in /etc/vservers/foo/flags, which is only for appying the 
 current (i.e. the hosts) ulimit to the guest. I guess there can only be 
 one ulimit in the (host) kernel, in our particular case for user root, 
 so all guests share one common umlinit unless it set nproc in the flags?

/etc/vservers/vserver-name/ulimits
  A directory with ulimits. Possible resources are cpu, data, fsize,
  locks, memlock, nofile, nproc, rss and/or stack.

/etc/vservers/vserver-name/rlimits
  A directory with resource limits. Possible resources are cpu, fsize,
  data, stack, core, rss, nproc, nofile, memlock, as and locks. This
  configuration will be honored for kernel 2.6 only.

and from the 0.30.208 changelog:

 2005-07-15 21:01  Enrico Scholz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  * scripts/: vserver.start, vserver.suexec:

  readded the limit-ulimits-per-vserver stuff due popular request
  (http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitemitem_id=12840)

so the essential answers are:

 - yes, you _can_ set ulimits for 2.6 kernels
 - no, you don't want to use nproc or ulimit as flag
 - usually you want to set rlimits not ulimits
   (because the ulimits are controlled by the distro)

 ---quote---
 nproc
 Limit the number of process in the vserver according to ulimit setting. 
 Normally, ulimit is a per user thing. With this flag, it becomes a per 
 vserver thing.
 ---

this was true about 1 year ago, it should also be supported
to some extend by the legacy tools .. but in general, you
do not want to use/have it nowadays ...

 So, if I want to keep the guests umlimit reasonably low, I have to set 
 the ulimit for root low

no, see answer above ...

HTH,
Herbert

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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 06:57:00PM +0200, Andreas John wrote:
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 Hello Micah!
 
 Thanks for uploading the patch! Please forgive that  I didn't notice
 that Ola is only responsible for util-vserver.
 I'll change the my homegrown binary 2.6.12 686 (see linux-vserver.org)
 to a compilation of your original Debian Sid release, which I provide
 for the convenience of beginners (as well as a .208 .deb of util-vserver)

please check the patch(es) I provide against util-vserver
0.30.208, as they will either extend functionality or
fix known issues ...

http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/patch-0.30.208-fix01.diff.bz2
(for now)

TIA,
Herbert

 rgds,
 Andreas
 
 
 
 Micah wrote:
 | Andreas John wrote:
 |
 |Hello!
 |
 |Good Question! If diff'ed a little:
 |
 |
 |And: Is Ola aware of the release, so we may urge him so pack it in
 |Debain Sid soon?
 |
 |
 | I've been working on the debian package for the kernel-patch
 | (kernel-patch-vserver), and as soon as I saw the release last night, I
 | tested the patch against the latest kernel-source in debian
 | (linux-source-2.6.12), and then uploaded a new package with the new patch.
 |
 | Also, the other day I was sick of people complaining that the
 | util-vserver tools were out of date in debian, so I filed a bug against
 | the package asking Ola to update them and he said he would do so right
 away.
 |
 | micah
 |
 | 1. http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kernel-patch-vserver/news/1.html
 | 2. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321659
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[Vserver] Auto-Restart after systemcrash / gentoo init-style

2005-08-08 Thread Oliver Welter

Hi List,

today my host crashed du to some bad conditions...and I found a very 
stupid issue


I run gentoo (host and guest) with 2.6 kernel and recent tools.
The vServers are guarded by a heartbeat installation.

Now my hardware crahed, the external server-watchdog rebootet the 
maschine and the host came up fine, BUT my vServers didnt start.


As the servers crahsed during runtime the /var/lib/init.d inside the 
guests indicated a running system and so the vserver start command was 
ineffectiv on all vServers.


Is there any tool or flag to force the start of a (gentoo) vServer even 
if the init.d directory is not empty ?


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Re: [Vserver] Feature Request: comment char in VS20/new-style

2005-08-08 Thread Enrico Scholz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas John) writes:

 I wanted to create commented version of /etc/vservers/foo/flags,
 but I was not able to find the right char for commenting out a line,
 neither # nor ; worked  even // was not the solution.

Sorry; bug in util-vserver. Afair, somebody else mentioned it already
but I lost track of it.

Should be now really fixed in CVS.


 I suspect the is at the time no way to comment out in new-style
 format?

No; but '# .. comment ...' should work in 0.30.209+.


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Re: [Vserver] running old style vservers on vs2.0-rc

2005-08-08 Thread Enrico Scholz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bert De Vuyst) writes:

 During some tests with the vserver 2.0-rc, I did have a problemen running 
 vservers with a old style configuration. The vservers do run fine, but the 
 vserver utils (vps, vserver-stat) can't display the vserver it's name.

 I run 2 vservers in the next example.
 testserv1 uses the new style config (and context 14),
 testserv2 uses the old style config (and context 27),

 When I run vserver-stat, I get net next output:

 CTX   PROCVSZRSS  userTIME   sysTIMEUPTIME NAME
 0   68 247.9M   6.5K  30m57s73  13m10s83   7d05h34 root server
 14   7  14.4M   1.5K  30m41s50  52m36s55   6d47h03 testserv1
 27   9  34.1M   2.9K   0m00s12   0m00s00   0m09s70

The XID - name mapping is not implemented for legacy configurations. As
legacy configuration does not have a big future and *would* need security
fixes first, this has a very low priority.




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Re: [Vserver] vserver build and no rpm displayed..

2005-08-08 Thread Enrico Scholz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Christophe Petit) writes:

 2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc9 with util-vserver-0.30.208 under CentOS 4
 followed the http://linux-vserver.org/CentOS_HowTo

 when in the vserver, rpm -qa gives nothing.

Expected; external packagemangement is used by default which holds rpm
database outside of the vserver. When you *really* need it, 'vserver
... pkgmgmt internalize' should copy it into the vserver so that 'rpm
-q' works there. But for most vserver types, the external management
should suffice.


 I have the /.rpmdb/ in place with files inside:
 bash-3.00# ls -la /.rpmdb/
 total 504
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root4096 Aug  3 05:12 .
 drwxr-xr-x  22 root root4096 Aug  3 05:04 ..
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   16384 Aug  3 05:08 __db.001
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1318912 Aug  3 05:08 __db.002
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root  450560 Aug  3 05:08 __db.003
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   12288 Aug  3 05:12 Group
...

These files were created by your 'rpm -q' operation which initializes
the rpm database.



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Re: [Vserver] vserver build and no rpm displayed..

2005-08-08 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 12:24:34AM +0200, Enrico Scholz wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Christophe Petit) writes:
 
  2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc9 with util-vserver-0.30.208 under CentOS 4
  followed the http://linux-vserver.org/CentOS_HowTo
 
  when in the vserver, rpm -qa gives nothing.
 
 Expected; external packagemangement is used by default which holds rpm
 database outside of the vserver. When you *really* need it, 'vserver
 ... pkgmgmt internalize' should copy it into the vserver so that 'rpm
 -q' works there. But for most vserver types, the external management
 should suffice.

well, probably depends on the application ...

I guess the 'typical' vps provider, which wants to
give a guest to the customer is not too happy about
an external package management (and probably the
customer will not be too happy either), but as you
said, it's configurable which should suffice ...

best,
Herbert

  I have the /.rpmdb/ in place with files inside:
  bash-3.00# ls -la /.rpmdb/
  total 504
  drwxr-xr-x   2 root root4096 Aug  3 05:12 .
  drwxr-xr-x  22 root root4096 Aug  3 05:04 ..
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   16384 Aug  3 05:08 __db.001
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1318912 Aug  3 05:08 __db.002
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root  450560 Aug  3 05:08 __db.003
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root   12288 Aug  3 05:12 Group
 ...
 
 These files were created by your 'rpm -q' operation which initializes
 the rpm database.

an option at vserver creation time would be nice
to have though ... maybe it's already there but not
documented yet? (like the ulimits on 2.6)

thanks,
Herbert

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[Fwd: Re: [Vserver] [Release] Stable 2.0]

2005-08-08 Thread Micah
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I am forwarding this message to the debian bug ID related to updating
the util-vserver tools to the latest version.

Ola, please be sure to apply the patch that Herbert provides for
util-vserver to fix some additional known issues.

micah

Herbert Poetzl wrote:

 please check the patch(es) I provide against util-vserver
 0.30.208, as they will either extend functionality or
 fix known issues ...
 
 http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/patch-0.30.208-fix01.diff.bz2
 (for now)
 
 TIA,
 Herbert
 
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Re: [Vserver] Auto-Restart after systemcrash / gentoo init-style

2005-08-08 Thread Benedikt Boehm
On Monday 08 August 2005 23:55, Oliver Welter wrote:
 Hi List,

 today my host crashed du to some bad conditions...and I found a very
 stupid issue

 I run gentoo (host and guest) with 2.6 kernel and recent tools.
 The vServers are guarded by a heartbeat installation.

 Now my hardware crahed, the external server-watchdog rebootet the
 maschine and the host came up fine, BUT my vServers didnt start.

 As the servers crahsed during runtime the /var/lib/init.d inside the
 guests indicated a running system and so the vserver start command was
 ineffectiv on all vServers.

 Is there any tool or flag to force the start of a (gentoo) vServer even
 if the init.d directory is not empty ?

 Oliver

use plain init style, or put a /sbin/depscan.sh after the sysboot section 
in /sbin/rc
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[Vserver] Migrating virtualised hosts from 1.2.x to 2.0

2005-08-08 Thread Jonathan Thorpe

Hi All,

Fantastic to see 2.0 is finally out. Great work guys!

I currently have a server configured with about 6 virtualised hosts / 
contexts on VServer 1.2 on Fedora Core 1 - the virtualised hosts are 
also running Fedora Core 1.


I'm about to set up another server running FC 4 with the new VServer 2.0 
and would like to know - is there anything special I need to do when it 
comes to migrating contexts from the 1.2 to 2.0 VServer? If possible, 
I'd like to keep all contexts running FC1 at this stage whilst the host 
server itself will be running FC4.


I will be testing this before I do a full migration, but would like to 
know if there are any problems I can expect to face with this.


Regards,
Jonathan
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