Re: [Vserver] Hashify 'etch' trouble?

2007-05-11 Thread Ben Green
On Fri, 11 May 2007 04:05:21 +0100, Corey Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the only problems i've encounter without COW is:
1. slapping my forehead when i accidentally vhashify /etc, try to modify a
 config file, and spend several minutes trying to figure out why i can't
 modify the file though i've set it u+w.  (that happened sometime in the
 beginning and only happened once. ;-)
2. upon upgrading or uninstall a package containing set[ug]id files, dpkg
 tries to unset the set[ug]id bit of the files (as a security precaution in
 case someone has hardlinked it and is keeping it around waiting for an
 exploit to be found in it).  of course this fails as the hashified file
 cannot be modified, but even worse dpkg stumbles on making a mess without
 reporting an error/failure.  i patched dpkg to not unset the file.  another
 debian user patched vhashify to skip set[ug]id files, which is the more
 proper solution (i only patched dpkg because it was the easier solution
 having already found the problematic code in dpkg while debugging the
 problem).  see the vserver mailing list archives for our patches.  see bug
 http://bugs.debian.org/382760 for my dpkg bug report.
those are the two problems i've ever found.
a tip is to rehashify your vservers and prune your .hash directory after
 package updates.  you can find a discussion on pruning scripts that i
 prompted on the mailing list sometime ago.

Excellent, thankyou for that, those were exactly the sorts of problems I 
expected.

I'd like to read the thread about pruning and the patches. The archive doesn't 
search well through google and has no inbuilt search. Any idea when the 
discussion was? I would prefer not to load anyones servers (and my HD) by 
downloading the lot.

When the archive says email me for the mbox, who is me?

Cheers,


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Re: [Vserver] Hashify 'etch' trouble?

2007-05-11 Thread Corey Wright
On Fri, 11 May 2007 08:04:49 +0100
Ben Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 11 May 2007 04:05:21 +0100, Corey Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  the only problems i've encounter without COW is:
 
 Excellent, thankyou for that, those were exactly the sorts of problems I
 expected.
 
 I'd like to read the thread about pruning and the patches. The archive
 doesn't search well through google and has no inbuilt search. Any idea
 when the discussion was? I would prefer not to load anyones servers (and
 my HD) by downloading the lot.

i found the relevant marked/flagged emails in my personal email archive and
then searched google for the quoted email subject.

clean-up hash directory
http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200609/0016.html

dpkg fails when upgrading hashified setuid files
http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200608/0045.html

suggestion for hashify improvement
http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200609/0163.html

seem's paul has the better vserver mailing list archive, at least in
google's opinion. ;-)

i can't vouch for tim's patch against vhashify because i haven't gotten
around to applying it (but i plan on doing it when i upgrade from sarge to
etch and upgrade the util-vserver package).  please let us know how it
goes if you do it.

corey
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Re: [Vserver] Hashify 'etch' trouble?

2007-05-11 Thread Enrico Scholz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Corey Wright) writes:

 clean-up hash directory
 http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200609/0016.html

Can be written much shorter as

| find /vservers/.hash/ -links 1 | xargs rm -f
| find /vservers/.hash/ -type d  | xargs rmdir 2/dev/null

(no need for '-0' flag)



Enrico


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Re: [Vserver] Hashify 'etch' trouble?

2007-05-11 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:53:30PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:46:48PM +0100, Ben Green wrote:
 
  What I want to know is can vhashify be used within older vserver 
  setups, specifically Debian 'etch' with it's none COWed kernel. What
  precautions would I need to take and what things can't I do inside
  these guest servers?

 I've been attending a Sun workshop yesterday (about Solaris 10,
 zones/containers, and HA). There's a number of close similiarities
 between HA on linux, and Linux paravirtualization technologies
 with Solaris zones/containers. Instead of vhashify (and symlinks)
 they're using loopback filesystem (LOFS) to minimize space for shared
 resources. I'm not sure why they chose that way, and didn't go for
 simple symlinks.

well, first, we do not use symlinks for a good reason,
and second, with the loopback filesystem, which is more
like an overlay filesystem and/or --bind mount, the
actual saving is not as good as with hardlinks ...

best,
Herbert

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Re: [Vserver] debian host wants centos guest

2007-05-11 Thread ADNET Ghislain

Chuck a écrit :

On Thursday 15 February 2007 07:52, ADNET Ghislain wrote:

i used a pre-made centos guest (bare bones) and had the same problem. i had to 
manually download and install rpm and yum to get a workable system. i use 
these centos4 and centos64 guests on a gentoo amd64 host and they work fine 
now.





thanks  ,


i setup the beast and have yum installed but..:

bash-3.00# yum update
Setting up Update Process
Setting up repositories
not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping - Null is not a valid 
release or hasnt been released yet
Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: update
Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: update

i cannot seems to make this works :)
using vyum on the host works (this is how i setup yum on the guest. But inside 
it it fails :(

 i tried to install whitebox linux but i failed also to find how to build the 
guest so i stick with centos :)


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