Re: [Vserver] FC5 End of Life and Linux-Vserver

2007-05-22 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Daniel Hokka Zakrisson wrote:

Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
With the announcement of the EOL for Fedora Core 5 I'm wondering where 
I should go next or if I should go ... next?


So actually this is more a question for Daniel Zakrisson since he 
provides the FC5 vserver kernel and vserver-utils RPMs and the 
repository.

   How long do you think you'll keep updating the FC5 stuff?


Thanks,
Rod


I guess I'll handle it the same way I handled the FC4 EOL, i.e. keep 
pushing updates until the base kernel (2.6.20) is no longer receiving 
them. As for the utils, I hope Enrico will manage to get 0.30.213 in 
before the EOL, and that should be fine for a while at least.



Thanks Daniel.

I have a few Vserver hosts based on FC5 and only a partially finished 
server ( hardware ) to use as a staging/transition system.  I see you 
have the FC6 RPMs in place but my experience with FC6, at least as a 
workstation, was less than satisfactory so I'm holding/hoping FC7 will 
be better.



Again thanks,
Rod
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[Vserver] Major Upgrade Question

2007-05-22 Thread John Alberts

Hi.  I'm using vserver successfully on a production server for over
1.5 years now.  I have upgraded without major problems in the past,
but it seems that there has been a pretty big change in revision
numbers since my last update.
This is a Gentoo host vserver and I am running vserver-sources
v2.0.2.1 and util-vserver v0.30.212-r1.  The upgrade will move me to
vserver-sources v2.2.0 and util-vserver v0.30.212-r2.
Does anyone think there will be any things I should watch out for with
this upgrade?  Will I need to upgrade anything in the guest os's after
or before I upgrade the host?

Thank you

Sincerely,
John
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[Vserver] Catalyst Framworks (perl not CISCO) and Vserver

2007-05-22 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

This is going to be very vague but please bear with me.

We just rebooted into a new kernel 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5.vs2.2.0.1smp and 
now the Catalyst test servers (http) will not automagically restart 
correctly when they detects changes in the .pm files.  I see the message 
it has noticed the changed file but then just sits there until I Ctrl-C 
and start the server again.


This was working with the 2.6.18-1.2255.fc5.vs2.0.2.2.0.rc9.1smp kernel.

Anyone familiar with Catalyst and/or have an idea where to look for what 
is causing this?  I'm thinking capabilities but with the change in both 
the base kernel and the Linux-vserver I could use a clue as to where to 
look.


It is mostly an irritation to have to manually restart the Catalyst test 
server but I forgotten when I made a change to the application code and 
wondered why my changes didn't take affect.  :-(



Thanks,
Rod
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Re: [Vserver] Catalyst Framworks (perl not CISCO) and Vserver

2007-05-22 Thread Bruno
I know nothing about catalyst, but had some issue with guest as well, suddenly 
they turned out no responding anymore.
The reason was metalog (inside guest) not processing the log messages it got 
through /dev/log. I didn't investigate why metalog did not process the log 
data anymore...
Since then I switched over to syslog-ng and network-logging where the issue 
does not show up (could it be that kernel log client of metalog did block the 
master metalog process?)

Bruno

On Tuesday 22 May 2007 22:05, Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
 This is going to be very vague but please bear with me.

 We just rebooted into a new kernel 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5.vs2.2.0.1smp and
 now the Catalyst test servers (http) will not automagically restart
 correctly when they detects changes in the .pm files.  I see the message
 it has noticed the changed file but then just sits there until I Ctrl-C
 and start the server again.

 This was working with the 2.6.18-1.2255.fc5.vs2.0.2.2.0.rc9.1smp kernel.

 Anyone familiar with Catalyst and/or have an idea where to look for what
 is causing this?  I'm thinking capabilities but with the change in both
 the base kernel and the Linux-vserver I could use a clue as to where to
 look.

 It is mostly an irritation to have to manually restart the Catalyst test
 server but I forgotten when I made a change to the application code and
 wondered why my changes didn't take affect.  :-(


 Thanks,
 Rod
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Re: [Vserver] Gentoo and hashified files

2007-05-22 Thread Einar S. Idsø
Thank you David and Oliver for your replies. I am glad to see there are
other using Gentoo with vserver happily, but it's disappointing that
noone seems to be using vhashify. That's would be nice to have since I
plan on having up to 60 vhosts.

Oliver: I am somewhat amazed that your setup works. I would think
Portage would get very upset, or at least confused, when packages that
aren't marked as updated are, dependencies should be broken etc. But two
years running is quite stable. Is it just /var and parts of /etc that
are externally mounted, while /usr, /lib etc. are all shared?

Cheers,
Einar

Oliver Welter wrote:
 This might be offtopic but perhaps useful.
 
 I have multiple guests that share the same root directly. All
 configuration and runtime relevant dirs (var and parts of etc( are
 mounted from a per guest partition.
 
 Works with no hasle here for over 2 years now
 
 Oliver

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[Vserver] disk scheduling ?

2007-05-22 Thread Attila Csipa
A question - is it possible to have something like the CPU token mechanism, 
but for IO operations (f.e. hdd-s) ? I have a problem where one of the 
contexts is really heavy on IO and I'd try to limit that. The scheduler is 
CFQ, but that does not help much on itself, it's not the scheduling itself 
that is the problem - if the HDD activity is high, an another context, 
running apaches will slow down serving files. Running out of children bc of 
the slowdown apache will start forking new processes to fullfill the incoming 
demands, this however triggers swapping after running out of ram which in 
turn makes everything even slower, starting a nasty IO bound load spiral. To 
make things (maybe) even harder, the IO intensive context is not actually 
reading/writing all that much data but rather seeking among small blocks of 
it. Is there a recommended/usual way of solving IO bound problems among 
vservers ? Putting in CPU limits or tokens does not help as the CPU-s are 
spending their time on idle or waiting even now so they are always full of 
tokens.


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Re: [Vserver] Major Upgrade Question

2007-05-22 Thread Einar S. Idsø
I upgraded from linux-2.6.17-vserver-2.0.2.1/util-vserver-0.30.212-r2 to
linux-2.6.20-vserver-2.2.0/util-vserver-0.30.213 about a month and a
half ago. Didn't have any problems at all.

YMMV, though.

Cheers,
Einar

John Alberts wrote:
 Hi.  I'm using vserver successfully on a production server for over
 1.5 years now.  I have upgraded without major problems in the past,
 but it seems that there has been a pretty big change in revision
 numbers since my last update.
 This is a Gentoo host vserver and I am running vserver-sources
 v2.0.2.1 and util-vserver v0.30.212-r1.  The upgrade will move me to
 vserver-sources v2.2.0 and util-vserver v0.30.212-r2.
 Does anyone think there will be any things I should watch out for with
 this upgrade?  Will I need to upgrade anything in the guest os's after
 or before I upgrade the host?
 
 Thank you
 
 Sincerely,
 John
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