Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Nathan McBride
Hmm, gotcha.  I guess that makes sense actually.
I'll see if I can't figure it out.

Nate

On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 08:49 +0530, Go Wow wrote:
 Nathan i can even view it, from inside LAN you cannot view it, if i
 remember correctly someone said when you try to enter on NAT'ted ip
 from inside network the router doesnt know the address where it needs
 to forward your request. Now look im not a networking guru and not
 even iptables guru so dont know why it happens but you would like to
 even visit it from inside LAN then you need to add couple of more nat
 rules i guess. someone may help you with additional rules.

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Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Go Wow
Nathan i can even view it, from inside LAN you cannot view it, if i remember
correctly someone said when you try to enter on NAT'ted ip from inside
network the router doesnt know the address where it needs to forward your
request. Now look im not a networking guru and not even iptables guru so
dont know why it happens but you would like to even visit it from inside LAN
then you need to add couple of more nat rules i guess. someone may help you
with additional rules.
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Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Aubrey Wells
*shrug* same here

Are you trying to hit the natted address from inside the LAN that is  
being natted to? Hairpin NAT doesnt work in iptables...

--
Aubrey Wells
Senior Engineer
Shelton | Johns Technology Group
A Vyatta Ready Partner
www.sheltonjohns.com





On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:06 PM, John Mason Jr wrote:

 I just connected and see the Apache 2 test page running on CentOS

 John



 Nathan McBride wrote:
 First off I appreciate help from everyone, this is a nice change to  
 some
 mailing lists I'm used to.  Unfortunately, I am still having the same
 problem.  I'm giving out real information, probably shouldn't, but
 that's how frustrated I am.  I just get an unable to connect  
 error.  The
 firewalls are fine I promise.  I can see the page on 192.168.0.105  
 from
 inside the lan, and I can see and use the webgui of the router just
 fine.  Altho I did disable it of course since I want the port  
 forwarded.
 In the ssh example sent to me which is below, I notice that the  
 address
 are just numbers where mine have  around them.  Does this  
 matter?  Can
 anyone please give any suggestions?

 Thanks alot,
 Nate

 My domain is:
 www.nombyte.com

 The IP is:
 71.62.193.105

 Full Nat is:

 nat {
rule 1 {
type: destination
inbound-interface: eth0
protocols: tcp
source {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
destination {
address: 71.62.193.105
port-name http
}
inside-address {
address: 192.168.0.105
}
}
rule 2 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.0.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}
rule 3 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.1.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}




 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:08 -0800, Justin Fletcher wrote:
 Here's what I use to port-forward ssh; just adjust for address  
 (where
 destination address is the public IP) and change it to http.

rule 2 {
type: destination
inbound-interface: eth0
protocols: tcp
source {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
destination {
address: 1.2.3.4
port-name ssh
}
inside-address {
address: 10.0.0.30
}
}

 Best,
 Justin

 On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 AM, Nathan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can someone please help me get this worked out?
 Nate


 Ok these are my nat rules now, I didn't see a command to change
 the rule
 numbers so i just redid them all by hand.  It still doesn't work.

 rule 1 {
type: destination
inbound-interface: eth0
protocols: tcp
destination {
address: 71.62.193.105
port-name http
}
inside-address {
address: 192.168.0.105
}
}
rule 2 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.0.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}
rule 3 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.1.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}

 Nate

 On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 21:39 -0800, An-Cheng Huang wrote:
 Hi Nate,

 The inside-address is the internal (private) IP address of
 your Web server, which in your case is 192.168.0.105. The  
 destination
 address should actually be the public IP address that outside  
 clients
 will use to access your server, so usually this is the public IP  
 address
 of your router.
 An-Cheng

 Nathan McBride wrote:
 I went and looked at the old docs.  I thought I set them up
 correctly
 but aparently I didn't.  I'll im trying to do is to get people
 on the
 internet to view the website on my comp (192.168.0.105).  The
 only
 difference that i noticed when I tried to commit the example
 in the old
 docs was that vc3 requires an 'inside-address'.  Could someone
 please
 help me correct this to get it working?

 rule 3 {
type: destination
inbound-interface: eth0
protocols: tcp
destination {
address: 192.168.0.105
port-name http
}
inside-address {
address: 192.168.0.105 -- didn't know what to put
 here
 exactly...
}
}

 

Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread John Mason Jr
I just connected and see the Apache 2 test page running on CentOS

John



Nathan McBride wrote:
 First off I appreciate help from everyone, this is a nice change to some
 mailing lists I'm used to.  Unfortunately, I am still having the same
 problem.  I'm giving out real information, probably shouldn't, but
 that's how frustrated I am.  I just get an unable to connect error.  The
 firewalls are fine I promise.  I can see the page on 192.168.0.105 from
 inside the lan, and I can see and use the webgui of the router just
 fine.  Altho I did disable it of course since I want the port forwarded.
 In the ssh example sent to me which is below, I notice that the address
 are just numbers where mine have  around them.  Does this matter?  Can
 anyone please give any suggestions?
 
 Thanks alot,
 Nate
 
 My domain is: 
 www.nombyte.com
 
 The IP is: 
 71.62.193.105
 
 Full Nat is:
 
 nat {
 rule 1 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 source {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 destination {
 address: 71.62.193.105
 port-name http
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 192.168.0.105
 }
 }
 rule 2 {
 type: masquerade
 outbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: all
 source {
 network: 192.168.0.0/24
 }
 destination {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 }
 rule 3 {
 type: masquerade
 outbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: all
 source {
 network: 192.168.1.0/24
 }
 destination {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 }
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:08 -0800, Justin Fletcher wrote:
 Here's what I use to port-forward ssh; just adjust for address (where
 destination address is the public IP) and change it to http.

 rule 2 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 source {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 destination {
 address: 1.2.3.4
 port-name ssh
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 10.0.0.30
 }
 }

 Best,
 Justin

 On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 AM, Nathan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can someone please help me get this worked out?
 Nate


 Ok these are my nat rules now, I didn't see a command to change
 the rule
 numbers so i just redid them all by hand.  It still doesn't work.

  rule 1 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 destination {
 address: 71.62.193.105
 port-name http
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 192.168.0.105
 }
 }
 rule 2 {
 type: masquerade
 outbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: all
 source {
 network: 192.168.0.0/24
 }
 destination {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 }
 rule 3 {
 type: masquerade
 outbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: all
 source {
 network: 192.168.1.0/24
 }
 destination {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 }

 Nate

 On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 21:39 -0800, An-Cheng Huang wrote:
 Hi Nate,

 The inside-address is the internal (private) IP address of
 your Web server, which in your case is 192.168.0.105. The destination
 address should actually be the public IP address that outside clients
 will use to access your server, so usually this is the public IP address
 of your router.
 An-Cheng

 Nathan McBride wrote:
 I went and looked at the old docs.  I thought I set them up
 correctly
 but aparently I didn't.  I'll im trying to do is to get people
 on the
 internet to view the website on my comp (192.168.0.105).  The
 only
 difference that i noticed when I tried to commit the example
 in the old
 docs was that vc3 requires an 'inside-address'.  Could someone
 please
 help me correct this to get it working?

 rule 3 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 destination {
 address: 192.168.0.105
 port-name http
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 192.168.0.105 -- didn't know what to put
 here
 exactly...
 }
 }

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[Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Nathan McBride
First off I appreciate help from everyone, this is a nice change to some
mailing lists I'm used to.  Unfortunately, I am still having the same
problem.  I'm giving out real information, probably shouldn't, but
that's how frustrated I am.  I just get an unable to connect error.  The
firewalls are fine I promise.  I can see the page on 192.168.0.105 from
inside the lan, and I can see and use the webgui of the router just
fine.  Altho I did disable it of course since I want the port forwarded.
In the ssh example sent to me which is below, I notice that the address
are just numbers where mine have  around them.  Does this matter?  Can
anyone please give any suggestions?

Thanks alot,
Nate

My domain is: 
www.nombyte.com

The IP is: 
71.62.193.105

Full Nat is:

nat {
rule 1 {
type: destination
inbound-interface: eth0
protocols: tcp
source {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
destination {
address: 71.62.193.105
port-name http
}
inside-address {
address: 192.168.0.105
}
}
rule 2 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.0.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}
rule 3 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.1.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}




On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:08 -0800, Justin Fletcher wrote:
 Here's what I use to port-forward ssh; just adjust for address (where
 destination address is the public IP) and change it to http.
 
 rule 2 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 source {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 destination {
 address: 1.2.3.4
 port-name ssh
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 10.0.0.30
 }
 }
 
 Best,
 Justin
 
 On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 AM, Nathan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can someone please help me get this worked out?
  Nate
 
 
   Ok these are my nat rules now, I didn't see a command to change
the rule
   numbers so i just redid them all by hand.  It still doesn't work.
  
rule 1 {
   type: destination
   inbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: tcp
   destination {
   address: 71.62.193.105
   port-name http
   }
   inside-address {
   address: 192.168.0.105
   }
   }
   rule 2 {
   type: masquerade
   outbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: all
   source {
   network: 192.168.0.0/24
   }
   destination {
   network: 0.0.0.0/0
   }
   }
   rule 3 {
   type: masquerade
   outbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: all
   source {
   network: 192.168.1.0/24
   }
   destination {
   network: 0.0.0.0/0
   }
   }
  
   Nate
  
   On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 21:39 -0800, An-Cheng Huang wrote:
Hi Nate,
   
The inside-address is the internal (private) IP address of
your Web server, which in your case is 192.168.0.105. The destination
address should actually be the public IP address that outside clients
will use to access your server, so usually this is the public IP address
of your router.
   
An-Cheng
   
Nathan McBride wrote:
 I went and looked at the old docs.  I thought I set them up
correctly
 but aparently I didn't.  I'll im trying to do is to get people
on the
 internet to view the website on my comp (192.168.0.105).  The
only
 difference that i noticed when I tried to commit the example
in the old
 docs was that vc3 requires an 'inside-address'.  Could someone
please
 help me correct this to get it working?

 rule 3 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 destination {
 address: 192.168.0.105
 port-name http
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 192.168.0.105 -- didn't know what to put
here
 exactly...
 }
 }

  
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Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Go Wow
Yeah I was about to say the same thing as Aubrey said, I had the same issue
when i was trying to access the NATt'ed ip from inside the LAN, try to
access it from outside any ip.
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Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Nathan McBride
John just told me he can get to the page too.
From inside the lan I am going to a browser and typing 
www.nombyte.com.  And it doesn't work?

Nate

On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:08 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
 *shrug* same here
 
 Are you trying to hit the natted address from inside the LAN that is  
 being natted to? Hairpin NAT doesnt work in iptables...
 
 --
 Aubrey Wells
 Senior Engineer
 Shelton | Johns Technology Group
 A Vyatta Ready Partner
 www.sheltonjohns.com
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:06 PM, John Mason Jr wrote:
 
  I just connected and see the Apache 2 test page running on CentOS
 
  John
 
 
 
  Nathan McBride wrote:
  First off I appreciate help from everyone, this is a nice change to  
  some
  mailing lists I'm used to.  Unfortunately, I am still having the same
  problem.  I'm giving out real information, probably shouldn't, but
  that's how frustrated I am.  I just get an unable to connect  
  error.  The
  firewalls are fine I promise.  I can see the page on 192.168.0.105  
  from
  inside the lan, and I can see and use the webgui of the router just
  fine.  Altho I did disable it of course since I want the port  
  forwarded.
  In the ssh example sent to me which is below, I notice that the  
  address
  are just numbers where mine have  around them.  Does this  
  matter?  Can
  anyone please give any suggestions?
 
  Thanks alot,
  Nate
 
  My domain is:
  www.nombyte.com
 
  The IP is:
  71.62.193.105
 
  Full Nat is:
 
  nat {
 rule 1 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 source {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 destination {
 address: 71.62.193.105
 port-name http
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 192.168.0.105
 }
 }
 rule 2 {
 type: masquerade
 outbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: all
 source {
 network: 192.168.0.0/24
 }
 destination {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 }
 rule 3 {
 type: masquerade
 outbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: all
 source {
 network: 192.168.1.0/24
 }
 destination {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 }
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:08 -0800, Justin Fletcher wrote:
  Here's what I use to port-forward ssh; just adjust for address  
  (where
  destination address is the public IP) and change it to http.
 
 rule 2 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 source {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 destination {
 address: 1.2.3.4
 port-name ssh
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 10.0.0.30
 }
 }
 
  Best,
  Justin
 
  On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 AM, Nathan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can someone please help me get this worked out?
  Nate
 
 
  Ok these are my nat rules now, I didn't see a command to change
  the rule
  numbers so i just redid them all by hand.  It still doesn't work.
 
  rule 1 {
 type: destination
 inbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: tcp
 destination {
 address: 71.62.193.105
 port-name http
 }
 inside-address {
 address: 192.168.0.105
 }
 }
 rule 2 {
 type: masquerade
 outbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: all
 source {
 network: 192.168.0.0/24
 }
 destination {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 }
 rule 3 {
 type: masquerade
 outbound-interface: eth0
 protocols: all
 source {
 network: 192.168.1.0/24
 }
 destination {
 network: 0.0.0.0/0
 }
 }
 
  Nate
 
  On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 21:39 -0800, An-Cheng Huang wrote:
  Hi Nate,
 
  The inside-address is the internal (private) IP address of
  your Web server, which in your case is 192.168.0.105. The  
  destination
  address should actually be the public IP address that outside  
  clients
  will use to access your server, so usually this is the public IP  
  address
  of your router.
  An-Cheng
 
  Nathan McBride wrote:
  I went and looked at the old docs.  I thought I set them up
  correctly
  but aparently I didn't.  I'll im trying to do is to get people
  on the
  internet to view the website on my comp (192.168.0.105).  The
  only
  difference that i noticed when I tried to commit the example
  in the old
  docs was that vc3 requires an 

Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Aubrey Wells
It sounds like you're a victim of hairpin natting. Very frustrating.  
Iptables doesnt do it (that I know of.) I first encountered this on a  
PIX firewall years ago and thought it was an absurd limitation (then I  
found out my beloved linux couldn't do it either and was crushed).  
Cisco fixed it in v7 of the PIX software IIRC but iptables still can't  
do it.

--
Aubrey Wells
Senior Engineer
Shelton | Johns Technology Group
A Vyatta Ready Partner
www.sheltonjohns.com





On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Nathan McBride wrote:

 John just told me he can get to the page too.
 From inside the lan I am going to a browser and typing
 www.nombyte.com.  And it doesn't work?

 Nate

 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:08 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
 *shrug* same here

 Are you trying to hit the natted address from inside the LAN that is
 being natted to? Hairpin NAT doesnt work in iptables...

 --
 Aubrey Wells
 Senior Engineer
 Shelton | Johns Technology Group
 A Vyatta Ready Partner
 www.sheltonjohns.com





 On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:06 PM, John Mason Jr wrote:

 I just connected and see the Apache 2 test page running on CentOS

 John



 Nathan McBride wrote:
 First off I appreciate help from everyone, this is a nice change to
 some
 mailing lists I'm used to.  Unfortunately, I am still having the  
 same
 problem.  I'm giving out real information, probably shouldn't, but
 that's how frustrated I am.  I just get an unable to connect
 error.  The
 firewalls are fine I promise.  I can see the page on 192.168.0.105
 from
 inside the lan, and I can see and use the webgui of the router just
 fine.  Altho I did disable it of course since I want the port
 forwarded.
 In the ssh example sent to me which is below, I notice that the
 address
 are just numbers where mine have  around them.  Does this
 matter?  Can
 anyone please give any suggestions?

 Thanks alot,
 Nate

 My domain is:
 www.nombyte.com

 The IP is:
 71.62.193.105

 Full Nat is:

 nat {
   rule 1 {
   type: destination
   inbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: tcp
   source {
   network: 0.0.0.0/0
   }
   destination {
   address: 71.62.193.105
   port-name http
   }
   inside-address {
   address: 192.168.0.105
   }
   }
   rule 2 {
   type: masquerade
   outbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: all
   source {
   network: 192.168.0.0/24
   }
   destination {
   network: 0.0.0.0/0
   }
   }
   rule 3 {
   type: masquerade
   outbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: all
   source {
   network: 192.168.1.0/24
   }
   destination {
   network: 0.0.0.0/0
   }
   }




 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:08 -0800, Justin Fletcher wrote:
 Here's what I use to port-forward ssh; just adjust for address
 (where
 destination address is the public IP) and change it to http.

   rule 2 {
   type: destination
   inbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: tcp
   source {
   network: 0.0.0.0/0
   }
   destination {
   address: 1.2.3.4
   port-name ssh
   }
   inside-address {
   address: 10.0.0.30
   }
   }

 Best,
 Justin

 On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 AM, Nathan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Can someone please help me get this worked out?
 Nate


 Ok these are my nat rules now, I didn't see a command to change
 the rule
 numbers so i just redid them all by hand.  It still doesn't  
 work.

 rule 1 {
   type: destination
   inbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: tcp
   destination {
   address: 71.62.193.105
   port-name http
   }
   inside-address {
   address: 192.168.0.105
   }
   }
   rule 2 {
   type: masquerade
   outbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: all
   source {
   network: 192.168.0.0/24
   }
   destination {
   network: 0.0.0.0/0
   }
   }
   rule 3 {
   type: masquerade
   outbound-interface: eth0
   protocols: all
   source {
   network: 192.168.1.0/24
   }
   destination {
   network: 0.0.0.0/0
   }
   }

 Nate

 On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 21:39 -0800, An-Cheng Huang wrote:
 Hi Nate,

 The inside-address is the internal (private) IP address of
 your Web server, which in your case is 192.168.0.105. The
 destination
 address should actually be the public IP address that outside
 clients
 will use to access your server, so usually this is the public IP
 address
 of your router.
 An-Cheng

 Nathan McBride wrote:
 I went and looked at the old docs.  I 

Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Aubrey Wells
Its been a while since I researched it, but I think there was  
something about the way netfilter_conntrac tracks the NAT sessions  
that prevents the hairpin nat from working. I never figured out a way  
around it and no one on google was helpful either.

The usual solution is to put a dns entry in your internal dns server  
to point the domain name to the internal ip of the web site.

--
Aubrey Wells
Senior Engineer
Shelton | Johns Technology Group
A Vyatta Ready Partner
www.sheltonjohns.com





On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Nathan McBride wrote:

 Can't I do another nat rule?

 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:25 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
 It sounds like you're a victim of hairpin natting. Very frustrating.
 Iptables doesnt do it (that I know of.) I first encountered this on a
 PIX firewall years ago and thought it was an absurd limitation  
 (then I
 found out my beloved linux couldn't do it either and was crushed).
 Cisco fixed it in v7 of the PIX software IIRC but iptables still  
 can't
 do it.

 --
 Aubrey Wells
 Senior Engineer
 Shelton | Johns Technology Group
 A Vyatta Ready Partner
 www.sheltonjohns.com





 On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Nathan McBride wrote:

 John just told me he can get to the page too.
 From inside the lan I am going to a browser and typing
 www.nombyte.com.  And it doesn't work?

 Nate

 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:08 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
 *shrug* same here

 Are you trying to hit the natted address from inside the LAN that  
 is
 being natted to? Hairpin NAT doesnt work in iptables...

 --
 Aubrey Wells
 Senior Engineer
 Shelton | Johns Technology Group
 A Vyatta Ready Partner
 www.sheltonjohns.com





 On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:06 PM, John Mason Jr wrote:

 I just connected and see the Apache 2 test page running on CentOS

 John



 Nathan McBride wrote:
 First off I appreciate help from everyone, this is a nice  
 change to
 some
 mailing lists I'm used to.  Unfortunately, I am still having the
 same
 problem.  I'm giving out real information, probably shouldn't,  
 but
 that's how frustrated I am.  I just get an unable to connect
 error.  The
 firewalls are fine I promise.  I can see the page on  
 192.168.0.105
 from
 inside the lan, and I can see and use the webgui of the router  
 just
 fine.  Altho I did disable it of course since I want the port
 forwarded.
 In the ssh example sent to me which is below, I notice that the
 address
 are just numbers where mine have  around them.  Does this
 matter?  Can
 anyone please give any suggestions?

 Thanks alot,
 Nate

 My domain is:
 www.nombyte.com

 The IP is:
 71.62.193.105

 Full Nat is:

 nat {
  rule 1 {
  type: destination
  inbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: tcp
  source {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  destination {
  address: 71.62.193.105
  port-name http
  }
  inside-address {
  address: 192.168.0.105
  }
  }
  rule 2 {
  type: masquerade
  outbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: all
  source {
  network: 192.168.0.0/24
  }
  destination {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  }
  rule 3 {
  type: masquerade
  outbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: all
  source {
  network: 192.168.1.0/24
  }
  destination {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  }




 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:08 -0800, Justin Fletcher wrote:
 Here's what I use to port-forward ssh; just adjust for address
 (where
 destination address is the public IP) and change it to http.

  rule 2 {
  type: destination
  inbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: tcp
  source {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  destination {
  address: 1.2.3.4
  port-name ssh
  }
  inside-address {
  address: 10.0.0.30
  }
  }

 Best,
 Justin

 On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 AM, Nathan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Can someone please help me get this worked out?
 Nate


 Ok these are my nat rules now, I didn't see a command to  
 change
 the rule
 numbers so i just redid them all by hand.  It still doesn't
 work.

 rule 1 {
  type: destination
  inbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: tcp
  destination {
  address: 71.62.193.105
  port-name http
  }
  inside-address {
  address: 192.168.0.105
  }
  }
  rule 2 {
  type: masquerade
  outbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: all
  source {
  network: 192.168.0.0/24
  }
  destination {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  }
  rule 3 {
  type: masquerade
  

Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Go Wow
 Another way would be to have these kind of servers (which needs to be
 access from LAN ) on another subnet. Looks feasible to me.

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Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread Nathan McBride
Can't I do another nat rule?

On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:25 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
 It sounds like you're a victim of hairpin natting. Very frustrating.  
 Iptables doesnt do it (that I know of.) I first encountered this on a  
 PIX firewall years ago and thought it was an absurd limitation (then I  
 found out my beloved linux couldn't do it either and was crushed).  
 Cisco fixed it in v7 of the PIX software IIRC but iptables still can't  
 do it.
 
 --
 Aubrey Wells
 Senior Engineer
 Shelton | Johns Technology Group
 A Vyatta Ready Partner
 www.sheltonjohns.com
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Nathan McBride wrote:
 
  John just told me he can get to the page too.
  From inside the lan I am going to a browser and typing
  www.nombyte.com.  And it doesn't work?
 
  Nate
 
  On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:08 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
  *shrug* same here
 
  Are you trying to hit the natted address from inside the LAN that is
  being natted to? Hairpin NAT doesnt work in iptables...
 
  --
  Aubrey Wells
  Senior Engineer
  Shelton | Johns Technology Group
  A Vyatta Ready Partner
  www.sheltonjohns.com
 
 
 
 
 
  On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:06 PM, John Mason Jr wrote:
 
  I just connected and see the Apache 2 test page running on CentOS
 
  John
 
 
 
  Nathan McBride wrote:
  First off I appreciate help from everyone, this is a nice change to
  some
  mailing lists I'm used to.  Unfortunately, I am still having the  
  same
  problem.  I'm giving out real information, probably shouldn't, but
  that's how frustrated I am.  I just get an unable to connect
  error.  The
  firewalls are fine I promise.  I can see the page on 192.168.0.105
  from
  inside the lan, and I can see and use the webgui of the router just
  fine.  Altho I did disable it of course since I want the port
  forwarded.
  In the ssh example sent to me which is below, I notice that the
  address
  are just numbers where mine have  around them.  Does this
  matter?  Can
  anyone please give any suggestions?
 
  Thanks alot,
  Nate
 
  My domain is:
  www.nombyte.com
 
  The IP is:
  71.62.193.105
 
  Full Nat is:
 
  nat {
rule 1 {
type: destination
inbound-interface: eth0
protocols: tcp
source {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
destination {
address: 71.62.193.105
port-name http
}
inside-address {
address: 192.168.0.105
}
}
rule 2 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.0.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}
rule 3 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.1.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:08 -0800, Justin Fletcher wrote:
  Here's what I use to port-forward ssh; just adjust for address
  (where
  destination address is the public IP) and change it to http.
 
rule 2 {
type: destination
inbound-interface: eth0
protocols: tcp
source {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
destination {
address: 1.2.3.4
port-name ssh
}
inside-address {
address: 10.0.0.30
}
}
 
  Best,
  Justin
 
  On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 AM, Nathan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  wrote:
  Can someone please help me get this worked out?
  Nate
 
 
  Ok these are my nat rules now, I didn't see a command to change
  the rule
  numbers so i just redid them all by hand.  It still doesn't  
  work.
 
  rule 1 {
type: destination
inbound-interface: eth0
protocols: tcp
destination {
address: 71.62.193.105
port-name http
}
inside-address {
address: 192.168.0.105
}
}
rule 2 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.0.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}
rule 3 {
type: masquerade
outbound-interface: eth0
protocols: all
source {
network: 192.168.1.0/24
}
destination {
network: 0.0.0.0/0
}
}
 
  Nate
 
  On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 21:39 -0800, An-Cheng Huang wrote:
  Hi Nate,
 
  The inside-address is the internal (private) IP address of
  your Web server, which in 

Re: [Vyatta-users] [Fwd: Re: Starting to get really frustrated... GRRR :D]

2008-01-29 Thread An-Cheng Huang
Hi Nate,

If the problem you're seeing is caused by external vs. internal DNS problem 
(external access is fine, but internal hosts resolve the server to the external 
address and therefore cannot access it), you might be able to work around it 
using NAT. See the following message from the list archive for more details.

http://mailman.vyatta.com/pipermail/vyatta-users/2007-August/001741.html

An-Cheng

Nathan McBride wrote:
 hmmm, guess i should make an internal dns server then... :D
 
 nate
 
 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:34 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
 Its been a while since I researched it, but I think there was  
 something about the way netfilter_conntrac tracks the NAT sessions  
 that prevents the hairpin nat from working. I never figured out a way  
 around it and no one on google was helpful either.

 The usual solution is to put a dns entry in your internal dns server  
 to point the domain name to the internal ip of the web site.

 --
 Aubrey Wells
 Senior Engineer
 Shelton | Johns Technology Group
 A Vyatta Ready Partner
 www.sheltonjohns.com

 On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Nathan McBride wrote:
 Can't I do another nat rule?

 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:25 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
 It sounds like you're a victim of hairpin natting. Very frustrating.
 Iptables doesnt do it (that I know of.) I first encountered this on a
 PIX firewall years ago and thought it was an absurd limitation  
 (then I
 found out my beloved linux couldn't do it either and was crushed).
 Cisco fixed it in v7 of the PIX software IIRC but iptables still  
 can't
 do it.

 --
 Aubrey Wells
 Senior Engineer
 Shelton | Johns Technology Group
 A Vyatta Ready Partner
 www.sheltonjohns.com

 On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Nathan McBride wrote:

 John just told me he can get to the page too.
 From inside the lan I am going to a browser and typing
 www.nombyte.com.  And it doesn't work?

 Nate

 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:08 -0500, Aubrey Wells wrote:
 *shrug* same here

 Are you trying to hit the natted address from inside the LAN that  
 is
 being natted to? Hairpin NAT doesnt work in iptables...

 --
 Aubrey Wells
 Senior Engineer
 Shelton | Johns Technology Group
 A Vyatta Ready Partner
 www.sheltonjohns.com





 On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:06 PM, John Mason Jr wrote:

 I just connected and see the Apache 2 test page running on CentOS

 John



 Nathan McBride wrote:
 First off I appreciate help from everyone, this is a nice  
 change to
 some
 mailing lists I'm used to.  Unfortunately, I am still having the
 same
 problem.  I'm giving out real information, probably shouldn't,  
 but
 that's how frustrated I am.  I just get an unable to connect
 error.  The
 firewalls are fine I promise.  I can see the page on  
 192.168.0.105
 from
 inside the lan, and I can see and use the webgui of the router  
 just
 fine.  Altho I did disable it of course since I want the port
 forwarded.
 In the ssh example sent to me which is below, I notice that the
 address
 are just numbers where mine have  around them.  Does this
 matter?  Can
 anyone please give any suggestions?

 Thanks alot,
 Nate

 My domain is:
 www.nombyte.com

 The IP is:
 71.62.193.105

 Full Nat is:

 nat {
  rule 1 {
  type: destination
  inbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: tcp
  source {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  destination {
  address: 71.62.193.105
  port-name http
  }
  inside-address {
  address: 192.168.0.105
  }
  }
  rule 2 {
  type: masquerade
  outbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: all
  source {
  network: 192.168.0.0/24
  }
  destination {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  }
  rule 3 {
  type: masquerade
  outbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: all
  source {
  network: 192.168.1.0/24
  }
  destination {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  }




 On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:08 -0800, Justin Fletcher wrote:
 Here's what I use to port-forward ssh; just adjust for address
 (where
 destination address is the public IP) and change it to http.

  rule 2 {
  type: destination
  inbound-interface: eth0
  protocols: tcp
  source {
  network: 0.0.0.0/0
  }
  destination {
  address: 1.2.3.4
  port-name ssh
  }
  inside-address {
  address: 10.0.0.30
  }
  }

 Best,
 Justin

 On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 AM, Nathan McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Can someone please help me get this worked out?
 Nate


 Ok these are my nat rules now, I didn't see a command to  
 change
 the rule
 numbers