Re: [Vyatta-users] ANN: Glendale Alpha 1 Released

2008-02-28 Thread Dave Roberts
 PPPoE support... do you intend to support a PPPoE server with 
 Glendale at some point?

Francois,

At present, it's not on the roadmap. The thought is that most of the time
that PPPoE is being used, you'd have a BRAS of some sort on the
provider-side, and currently, that's not a target market for Vyatta to go
after.

If you have a different use-case or if I'm missing something, please
educate me and we'll definitely consider it. We're always looking for ways
to make Vyatta better. Most all suggestions that people make are rational
and interesting to us. It simply becomes a matter of priority for what we
work on next.

-- Dave

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Re: [Vyatta-users] ANN: Glendale Alpha 1 Released

2008-01-24 Thread Aubrey Wells
Sweet. Downloading it now to put it through its paces. Should we post  
questions/comments/bugs here or on hackers?

--
Aubrey Wells
Senior Engineer
Shelton | Johns Technology Group
A Vyatta Ready Partner
www.sheltonjohns.com





On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:33 PM, Dave Roberts wrote:

 As many of you know, the Vyatta development team has been working  
 hard on
 the next major Vyatta release, code named Glendale. Glendale  
 represents a
 *HUGE* step forward on a number of fronts. Because of this, Vyatta has
 committed to making early previews available to the Vyatta Community  
 so that
 you can get comfortable with the new features and provide feedback  
 on the
 functionality and stability of the system.

 TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT:
 =

 Today, I'm pleased to announce that Glendale Alpha 1 has been made  
 available
 for download from the Vyatta web site:
 http://www.vyatta.com/download/

 Release notes and documentation for Alpha 1 are available on the  
 Vyatta
 Community Wiki:
 http://www.vyatta.com/twiki/bin/view/Community/GlendaleAlpha1

 Currently, the documentation is going through rapid development and  
 has been
 released as separate chapters. As new chapters are written or  
 previously
 released chapters are updated, they will be uploaded to the  
 Community Wiki.
 If you find issues with the documentation, please report them to the
 vyatta-users mailing list.

 THINGS TO NOTE:
 ===

 This is ***ALPHA*** software. It is not yet feature complete or fully
 stable. Because of this, it is not suitable for production networks.  
 If you
 use it in your production network, it will lose your packets,  
 corrupt your
 data, and make your hair fall out. Be warned.

 Anybody even contemplating testing Alpha 1 should be sure to read  
 the rest
 of this announcement and the release notes very carefully. There are a
 number of changes to the system.

 All that said, we want you to test it like crazy, so don't be shy.

 ALPHA 1 FEATURES:
 =

 The release notes have some more information, but here is a  
 description of
 some of the major changes in the system:

 * Glendale has touched just about every subsystem in some way. In some
 cases, the changes are relatively minor. In others, they represent a  
 radical
 departure. Because of the global changes, Glendale does not attempt  
 to keep
 backward compatibility with previous configuration files. If you  
 want to
 upgrade a system to Glendale, save off the configuration first and  
 then
 translate the configuration by hand to the new syntax.

 * Glendale Alpha 1 is distributed in ISO format only. There are  
 currently no
 package repositories for the system and future preview releases  
 (Alpha 2 and
 Beta) will be distributed in a similar fashion.

 * Glendale has a completely new command line interface infrastructure,
 called FusionCLI. FusionCLI is based on an extended version of bash  
 with
 access to Vyatta-specific commands and syntax, effectively fusing  
 together
 management functionality at the CLI level and eliminating the separate
 Vyatta shell. FusionCLI has a role-based user account system.  
 Depending on
 the user role, the user may be able to execute standard Linux  
 commands from
 the FusionCLI prompt. Further, the system is scriptable with a  
 combination
 of bash scripting and Vyatta-specific commands. Once you play with  
 this for
 a while, you'll begin to realize the power this affords  
 administrators. The
 release notes have more information about this functionality. In  
 particular,
 there are changes to the online '?'-help system that you should be  
 aware of.

 * Glendale has completely revamped the routing subsystem. If you were
 struggling with routing protocol issues previously, there is a very  
 good
 chance that your issues are gone. In particular, scalability and  
 stability
 are greatly improved and the feature set has been expanded  
 tremendously.

 * Along with the routing subsystem, the policy subsystem is completely
 different. It should now handle more complex policy configurations and
 operate closer to the way you would expect.

 * The VRRP subsystem has been revamped. We now support multiple VRRP  
 groups
 on a single interface, eliminating a common issue with the previous  
 VRRP
 implementation.

 * DHCP client is now supported. This will make it easier for people
 connecting to broadband networks that do not provide static addressing
 (commonly DSL and cable networks).

 * Many other existing subsystems have been touched to fix bugs or  
 provide
 minor enhancements.

 Implemented but not documented:
 ---

 There are several new features that have been implemented, but do  
 not yet
 have documentation. If you're adventurous you can use the CLI help  
 to try
 them out. Look for documentation to arrive over the coming weeks.

 * GRE and IP-in-IP tunnels are supported. These features are located  
 under
 the 

Re: [Vyatta-users] ANN: Glendale Alpha 1 Released

2008-01-24 Thread Dave Roberts
Discuss Glendale on this list unless the comments are specifically about how to 
build or hack the system.

Cheers,

-- Dave Roberts


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From: Aubrey Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dave Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/24/2008 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Vyatta-users] ANN: Glendale Alpha 1 Released

Sweet. Downloading it now to put it through its paces. Should we post  
questions/comments/bugs here or on hackers?

--
Aubrey Wells
Senior Engineer
Shelton | Johns Technology Group
A Vyatta Ready Partner
www.sheltonjohns.com





On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:33 PM, Dave Roberts wrote:

 As many of you know, the Vyatta development team has been working  
 hard on
 the next major Vyatta release, code named Glendale. Glendale  
 represents a
 *HUGE* step forward on a number of fronts. Because of this, Vyatta has
 committed to making early previews available to the Vyatta Community  
 so that
 you can get comfortable with the new features and provide feedback  
 on the
 functionality and stability of the system.

 TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT:
 =

 Today, I'm pleased to announce that Glendale Alpha 1 has been made  
 available
 for download from the Vyatta web site:
 http://www.vyatta.com/download/

 Release notes and documentation for Alpha 1 are available on the  
 Vyatta
 Community Wiki:
 http://www.vyatta.com/twiki/bin/view/Community/GlendaleAlpha1

 Currently, the documentation is going through rapid development and  
 has been
 released as separate chapters. As new chapters are written or  
 previously
 released chapters are updated, they will be uploaded to the  
 Community Wiki.
 If you find issues with the documentation, please report them to the
 vyatta-users mailing list.

 THINGS TO NOTE:
 ===

 This is ***ALPHA*** software. It is not yet feature complete or fully
 stable. Because of this, it is not suitable for production networks.  
 If you
 use it in your production network, it will lose your packets,  
 corrupt your
 data, and make your hair fall out. Be warned.

 Anybody even contemplating testing Alpha 1 should be sure to read  
 the rest
 of this announcement and the release notes very carefully. There are a
 number of changes to the system.

 All that said, we want you to test it like crazy, so don't be shy.

 ALPHA 1 FEATURES:
 =

 The release notes have some more information, but here is a  
 description of
 some of the major changes in the system:

 * Glendale has touched just about every subsystem in some way. In some
 cases, the changes are relatively minor. In others, they represent a  
 radical
 departure. Because of the global changes, Glendale does not attempt  
 to keep
 backward compatibility with previous configuration files. If you  
 want to
 upgrade a system to Glendale, save off the configuration first and  
 then
 translate the configuration by hand to the new syntax.

 * Glendale Alpha 1 is distributed in ISO format only. There are  
 currently no
 package repositories for the system and future preview releases  
 (Alpha 2 and
 Beta) will be distributed in a similar fashion.

 * Glendale has a completely new command line interface infrastructure,
 called FusionCLI. FusionCLI is based on an extended version of bash  
 with
 access to Vyatta-specific commands and syntax, effectively fusing  
 together
 management functionality at the CLI level and eliminating the separate
 Vyatta shell. FusionCLI has a role-based user account system.  
 Depending on
 the user role, the user may be able to execute standard Linux  
 commands from
 the FusionCLI prompt. Further, the system is scriptable with a  
 combination
 of bash scripting and Vyatta-specific commands. Once you play with  
 this for
 a while, you'll begin to realize the power this affords  
 administrators. The
 release notes have more information about this functionality. In  
 particular,
 there are changes to the online '?'-help system that you should be  
 aware of.

 * Glendale has completely revamped the routing subsystem. If you were
 struggling with routing protocol issues previously, there is a very  
 good
 chance that your issues are gone. In particular, scalability and  
 stability
 are greatly improved and the feature set has been expanded  
 tremendously.

 * Along with the routing subsystem, the policy subsystem is completely
 different. It should now handle more complex policy configurations and
 operate closer to the way you would expect.

 * The VRRP subsystem has been revamped. We now support multiple VRRP  
 groups
 on a single interface, eliminating a common issue with the previous  
 VRRP
 implementation.

 * DHCP client is now supported. This will make it easier for people
 connecting to broadband networks that do not provide static addressing
 (commonly DSL and cable networks).

 * Many other existing subsystems have been touched to fix bugs or  
 provide
 minor enhancements.

 Implemented but not documented