Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

2008-02-02 Thread Dave Roberts
Sounds like the right call.

Cheers,

-- Dave Roberts


-Original Message-
From: Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dave Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vyatta-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/2/2008 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

Gisch, sounds like i'll stick to the stable release until Glendale is
stable.
We are going to have customer systems behind the router, and the customers
doesn't appreciate downtime at all.



2008/1/31, Dave Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Glendale probably hasn't had enough widespread alpha testing to know for
 sure, but having said that, I think the general consensus from people at
 Vyatta as well as some other comments we have gotten from outside is that it
 feels a lot more stable. By stable, I specifically mean a lot less random
 behavior. Generally, with Glendale things either work or they don't. Now,
 having said that, there is a *lot* of stuff that doesn't work (a lot of
 loose ends, rough edges, etc.), but if you don't need those features, then
 the stuff that does work seems to work well. Put another way, if you can
 configure it and you test it and it works, it will probably keep working
 well. Vyatta currently uses Glendale everyday in our production network, for
 instance, and we don't see crashes.

 So...

 If servers that soon will go live means an intranet, internal company
 web site that can afford to be down for a few hours to upgrade to Glendale
 Alpha 2 and Beta in a month or two and your company won't go out of business
 if there is a problem, then I'd probably install Glendale Alpha 1 and I
 think you would probably be happy with it.

 If servers that soon will go live refer to multi-million dollar,
 revenue-generating, business-critical systems that have limited maintenance
 windows, etc., where you would be fired outright if things suddenly stopped
 working, then I definitely wouldn't do it. It's simply too risky at this
 point and at a minimum you'll want to upgrade to Alpha 2 and/or Beta when
 those become available, which would require possibly large amounts of
 downtime. But if you decide to go for it, we'd be very interested in any
 feedback you have. ;-)

 -- Dave

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 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jostein
 Martinsen-Jones
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:06 PM
 *To:* Justin Fletcher
 *Cc:* vyatta-users
 *Subject:* Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

 How production ready are Glendale. I'm using vyatta as router/firewall in
 front of a couple of servers that soon will go live...
 Since it's alpha, do you think I should do it? Just printed the whole
 manual...

 2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Maybe . . .
 
  However, much of this has been resolved with associated changes in
  Glendale.
  Give Alpha 1 a try - I doubt you'll see it there :-)
 
  Best,
  Justin
 
  On Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   But i feel that the only reason I didn't have to reboot is luck :(
   Maybe next time i'm unable to login with any account?
  
   2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
As you can see, nothing jumps out in the log.  A detailed search may
turn up more information; otherwise, at least you've got a
  work-around
:-)
   
Justin
   
On Jan 29, 2008 2:48 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   wrote:
 Log result attached.
 I managed to login if I changed the passwords for my troubled
  users.
 Somethimes the encrypted-password didn't get encrypted.


 2008/1/29, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Give show log | match ERROR a try.
 
  Justin
 
  On Jan 29, 2008 2:00 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I have this problem again. Now i was able to login to a user
  account
   I
   created, but unable to view logfiles since im in xorpsh.
  
   2008/1/28, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
Anything untoward in the log files?
   
Justin
   
On Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 Today I had a wierd experience with Vyatta.
 I was unable to login on any account. Did a reboot, then
   everything
 was
 normal.
 What is going on?

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Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

2008-01-30 Thread Justin Fletcher
As you can see, nothing jumps out in the log.  A detailed search may
turn up more information; otherwise, at least you've got a work-around
:-)

Justin

On Jan 29, 2008 2:48 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Log result attached.
 I managed to login if I changed the passwords for my troubled users.
 Somethimes the encrypted-password didn't get encrypted.


 2008/1/29, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Give show log | match ERROR a try.
 
  Justin
 
  On Jan 29, 2008 2:00 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I have this problem again. Now i was able to login to a user account I
   created, but unable to view logfiles since im in xorpsh.
  
   2008/1/28, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
Anything untoward in the log files?
   
Justin
   
On Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 Today I had a wierd experience with Vyatta.
 I was unable to login on any account. Did a reboot, then everything
 was
 normal.
 What is going on?

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Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

2008-01-30 Thread Justin Fletcher
Maybe . . .

However, much of this has been resolved with associated changes in Glendale.
Give Alpha 1 a try - I doubt you'll see it there :-)

Best,
Justin

On Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But i feel that the only reason I didn't have to reboot is luck :(
 Maybe next time i'm unable to login with any account?

 2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  As you can see, nothing jumps out in the log.  A detailed search may
  turn up more information; otherwise, at least you've got a work-around
  :-)
 
  Justin
 
  On Jan 29, 2008 2:48 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Log result attached.
   I managed to login if I changed the passwords for my troubled users.
   Somethimes the encrypted-password didn't get encrypted.
  
  
   2008/1/29, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
Give show log | match ERROR a try.
   
Justin
   
On Jan 29, 2008 2:00 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 I have this problem again. Now i was able to login to a user account
 I
 created, but unable to view logfiles since im in xorpsh.

 2008/1/28, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Anything untoward in the log files?
 
  Justin
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Today I had a wierd experience with Vyatta.
   I was unable to login on any account. Did a reboot, then
 everything
   was
   normal.
   What is going on?
  
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Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

2008-01-30 Thread Jostein Martinsen-Jones
How production ready are Glendale. I'm using vyatta as router/firewall in
front of a couple of servers that soon will go live...
Since it's alpha, do you think I should do it? Just printed the whole
manual...

2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Maybe . . .

 However, much of this has been resolved with associated changes in
 Glendale.
 Give Alpha 1 a try - I doubt you'll see it there :-)

 Best,
 Justin

 On Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  But i feel that the only reason I didn't have to reboot is luck :(
  Maybe next time i'm unable to login with any account?
 
  2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   As you can see, nothing jumps out in the log.  A detailed search may
   turn up more information; otherwise, at least you've got a work-around
   :-)
  
   Justin
  
   On Jan 29, 2008 2:48 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
Log result attached.
I managed to login if I changed the passwords for my troubled
 users.
Somethimes the encrypted-password didn't get encrypted.
   
   
2008/1/29, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Give show log | match ERROR a try.

 Justin

 On Jan 29, 2008 2:00 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  I have this problem again. Now i was able to login to a user
 account
  I
  created, but unable to view logfiles since im in xorpsh.
 
  2008/1/28, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Anything untoward in the log files?
  
   Justin
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
Today I had a wierd experience with Vyatta.
I was unable to login on any account. Did a reboot, then
  everything
was
normal.
What is going on?
   
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Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

2008-01-30 Thread Justin Fletcher
Personally, I'd use it to take advantage of major changes and fixes,
and I'm running it to access all 40 lab systems - but that's me :-)

It still needs more polish, and there's a good chance you'll find
things that aren't perfect (or maybe even a bug or two), and you'll
have to re-enter and/or substantially modify your existing
configuration.

If you want to be cautious and prudent, review the bugs in the bug
list, and try it on a backup system.

Best,
Justin

On Jan 30, 2008 3:06 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How production ready are Glendale. I'm using vyatta as router/firewall in
 front of a couple of servers that soon will go live...
 Since it's alpha, do you think I should do it? Just printed the whole
 manual...



 2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Maybe . . .
 
  However, much of this has been resolved with associated changes in
 Glendale.
  Give Alpha 1 a try - I doubt you'll see it there :-)
 
  Best,
  Justin
 
  On Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   But i feel that the only reason I didn't have to reboot is luck :(
   Maybe next time i'm unable to login with any account?
  
   2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
As you can see, nothing jumps out in the log.  A detailed search may
turn up more information; otherwise, at least you've got a work-around
:-)
   
Justin
   
On Jan 29, 2008 2:48 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 Log result attached.
 I managed to login if I changed the passwords for my troubled
 users.
 Somethimes the encrypted-password didn't get encrypted.


 2008/1/29, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Give show log | match ERROR a try.
 
  Justin
 
  On Jan 29, 2008 2:00 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I have this problem again. Now i was able to login to a user
 account
   I
   created, but unable to view logfiles since im in xorpsh.
  
   2008/1/28, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
Anything untoward in the log files?
   
Justin
   
On Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 Today I had a wierd experience with Vyatta.
 I was unable to login on any account. Did a reboot, then
   everything
 was
 normal.
 What is going on?

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Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

2008-01-30 Thread Dave Roberts
Glendale probably hasn't had enough widespread alpha testing to know for 
sure, but having said that, I think the general consensus from people at 
Vyatta as well as some other comments we have gotten from outside is that it 
feels a lot more stable. By stable, I specifically mean a lot less random 
behavior. Generally, with Glendale things either work or they don't. Now, 
having said that, there is a *lot* of stuff that doesn't work (a lot of 
loose ends, rough edges, etc.), but if you don't need those features, then 
the stuff that does work seems to work well. Put another way, if you can 
configure it and you test it and it works, it will probably keep working 
well. Vyatta currently uses Glendale everyday in our production network, for 
instance, and we don't see crashes.

So...

If servers that soon will go live means an intranet, internal company web 
site that can afford to be down for a few hours to upgrade to Glendale Alpha 
2 and Beta in a month or two and your company won't go out of business if 
there is a problem, then I'd probably install Glendale Alpha 1 and I think 
you would probably be happy with it.

If servers that soon will go live refer to multi-million dollar, 
revenue-generating, business-critical systems that have limited maintenance 
windows, etc., where you would be fired outright if things suddenly stopped 
working, then I definitely wouldn't do it. It's simply too risky at this 
point and at a minimum you'll want to upgrade to Alpha 2 and/or Beta when 
those become available, which would require possibly large amounts of 
downtime. But if you decide to go for it, we'd be very interested in any 
feedback you have. ;-)

-- Dave


  _

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jostein 
Martinsen-Jones
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:06 PM
To: Justin Fletcher
Cc: vyatta-users
Subject: Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot


How production ready are Glendale. I'm using vyatta as router/firewall in 
front of a couple of servers that soon will go live...
Since it's alpha, do you think I should do it? Just printed the whole 
manual...


2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Maybe . . .

However, much of this has been resolved with associated changes in Glendale.
Give Alpha 1 a try - I doubt you'll see it there :-)

Best,
Justin

On Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 But i feel that the only reason I didn't have to reboot is luck :(
 Maybe next time i'm unable to login with any account?

 2008/1/30, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  As you can see, nothing jumps out in the log.  A detailed search may
  turn up more information; otherwise, at least you've got a work-around
  :-)
 
  Justin
 
  On Jan 29, 2008 2:48 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Log result attached.
   I managed to login if I changed the passwords for my troubled users.
   Somethimes the encrypted-password didn't get encrypted.
  
  
   2008/1/29, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
Give show log | match ERROR a try.
   
Justin
   
On Jan 29, 2008 2:00 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 I have this problem again. Now i was able to login to a user 
 account
 I
 created, but unable to view logfiles since im in xorpsh.

 2008/1/28, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Anything untoward in the log files?
 
  Justin
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Today I had a wierd experience with Vyatta.
   I was unable to login on any account. Did a reboot, then
 everything
   was
   normal.
   What is going on?
  
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Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

2008-01-29 Thread Justin Fletcher
Give show log | match ERROR a try.

Justin

On Jan 29, 2008 2:00 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have this problem again. Now i was able to login to a user account I
 created, but unable to view logfiles since im in xorpsh.

 2008/1/28, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Anything untoward in the log files?
 
  Justin
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Today I had a wierd experience with Vyatta.
   I was unable to login on any account. Did a reboot, then everything was
   normal.
   What is going on?
  
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Re: [Vyatta-users] Unable to login, solved by reboot

2008-01-29 Thread Jostein Martinsen-Jones
Log result attached.
I managed to login if I changed the passwords for my troubled users.
Somethimes the encrypted-password didn't get encrypted.


2008/1/29, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Give show log | match ERROR a try.

 Justin

 On Jan 29, 2008 2:00 PM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I have this problem again. Now i was able to login to a user account I
  created, but unable to view logfiles since im in xorpsh.
 
  2008/1/28, Justin Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Anything untoward in the log files?
  
   Justin
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM, Jostein Martinsen-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
Today I had a wierd experience with Vyatta.
I was unable to login on any account. Did a reboot, then everything
 was
normal.
What is going on?
   
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