spyware
I am getting a bit concerned about spyware. Is it a problem on a Mac or is it only a worry for those on the Dark Side? Can anyone recommend a spyware removal program for the Mac? Thanks, Peter Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spyware
no spyware.. there is currently no spyware in the wild for OS X Natas On 14/07/2005, at 12:58 AM, Peter Bull wrote: I am getting a bit concerned about spyware. Is it a problem on a Mac or is it only a worry for those on the Dark Side? Can anyone recommend a spyware removal program for the Mac? Thanks, Peter Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: spyware
spyware is mainly peecee so billy gates can make sure your not loading anyrthing but microsoft on your computer hee hee REALITY none i have heard of for mac YET On 14/07/2005, at 12:58 AM, Peter Bull wrote: I am getting a bit concerned about spyware. Is it a problem on a Mac or is it only a worry for those on the Dark Side? Can anyone recommend a spyware removal program for the Mac? Thanks, Peter Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Tiger
On 13/07/2005, at 10:12 PM, Murdoch Allen wrote: So what's the consensus of Tiger is it worth the upgrade or not ?? I upgraded from 10.3.9 on my Ti PowerBook 867, 768 RAM. I was ultra careful with the upgrade process and went the Erase and Install route after taking all the precautions I could read about. The upgrade went flawlessly and was over in a short time, maybe 20 mins-I forget, but I had only about 7 GB on my HD. I have had zero problems, no apps broken, altho some need updating but I do that as I get to use them. Using Mail.app and that migrated perfectly [that was an area which I had read about on other forums as having problems]. I have no use for the Widget stuff. And so far I have not looked at the Automator. Spotlight works fine but I know that some users have issues with it not searching/finding everything on their disks. But for me I was quite content with the old Find command [which still works altho its new configuration takes a bit of getting used to, YMMV], plus the freeware EasyFind app. The biggest problem I have with Spotlight is this. I have an external FW drive which I use for backups, a full clone of my HD, at weekly intervals. Pre Tiger I would connect the FW drive and just start the backup clone. Now with Tiger's Spotlight as soon as I connect the FW drive Spotlight starts to index it and I have to wait until the indexing process is finished before I can clone to it. And then as the cloning process is running, Spotlight is reindexing. Yes there are workarounds for these difficulties but for me it is a pain to have to do so. The forums [Apple Discussion Boards, ArsTechnica, MacNN] have many threads on this problem but other than the so far several workarounds, no permanent solution. The situation is not a problem for anyone who keeps a backup disk permanently connected to your HD and regularly backs up, but that is not the answer for me and I suspect everyone who uses a notebook. This problem has occupied GBs of cyperspace and I won't clog this list with repeating it. Safari does not work for me as well as it did in 10.3.9, again shown by many other forums' threads. But I won't go into detail here. Everyone's experience varies. I have no knowledge of the under the hood improvements. I can not say that my system is any faster but we all know that after a short time memory and perceptions of previous behaviour is diluted. In my opinion, and in my circumstances, Tiger has not been worth the money but of course I am not going to revert to Panther. I assume that the folk for whom Tiger is an improvement and greatly helps their computing experience are those who use their Macs for production in a working environment, and that is where Apple is naturally aiming the upgrade. No problem with that. But in my case as a retiree who uses my Macs just for a hobby then Tiger is not a big deal. HTH . Peter Sealy Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
Re: Tiger
Morning, On 14/07/2005, at 7:22am, Peter Sealy wrote: On 13/07/2005, at 10:12 PM, Murdoch Allen wrote: So what's the consensus of Tiger is it worth the upgrade or not ?? Yes with a ?, but since the update released yesterday I now say yes with a definite +. Airport is a lot more stable under Tiger, and even better with 10.4.2, which also gave security a big hike for Airport. A lot of issues with Safari and networking have been repaired with the update. X11 reverted to Unix standards of utilising /usr/local which caused a few issues for some programs I use, but since removing my workarounds from Panther they install as should be and work a treat. Security has been tightened extensively in Tiger. Security for multiple users on one machine is a lot tighter now which causes issue for some, but again one must learn to adjust. Overall firewall and other security devices make it very safe in an open and vicious world, worth the upgrade alone if you work in a network environment or frequent the internet. Spotlight is very useful for simple upper layer environment, but for delving deeper I still use locate. It took awhile to adjust now I can not look back as I have had to do with other peoples machines. The biggest problem I have with Spotlight is this. I have an external FW drive which I use for backups, a full clone of my HD, at weekly intervals. Pre Tiger I would connect the FW drive and just start the backup clone. Now with Tiger's Spotlight as soon as I connect the FW drive Spotlight starts to index it and I have to wait until the indexing process is finished before I can clone to it. And then as the cloning process is running, Spotlight is reindexing. Yes there are workarounds for these difficulties but for me it is a pain to have to do so. The forums [Apple Discussion Boards, ArsTechnica, MacNN] have many threads on this problem but other than the so far several workarounds, no permanent solution. The situation is not a problem for anyone who keeps a backup disk permanently connected to your HD and regularly backs up, but that is not the answer for me and I suspect everyone who uses a notebook. This problem has occupied GBs of cyperspace and I won't clog this list with repeating it. Automater is a friend in this situation, search for already created actions or try and build your own, but it will do the job. I have seen set ups that do what you are attempting with one click. I had reservations with Tiger, but once I used other Mac machines which have not been upgraded I would say it is definitely worth the transition and now .2 is out most of my issues have been resolved. Cheers! Rob
Re: Problems with Office 98 in Classic
Mike My son has an iMac with 10.4. When he attempts to print but changes printer to do so, the application quits. Does your freeze occurs after selecting another printer or re-selecting your printer? Merv At 3:35 PM +0800 13/7/05, Mike MOORE wrote: Many thanks Rod That had not occurred to me - having deleted it from the list it no longer starts up by itself on log in. Now if i can figure out how to stop Word from freezing every time I print I will be a happy little vegemite again. mike moore On 13/07/2005, at 3:09 PM, Rod wrote: On 13/07/2005, at 3:01 PM, Mike MOORE wrote: Robert Thanks for your suggestions I have tried: - trashing all of the MS office preferences in OS9. - rebuilding the OS9 Desktop. - disabling startup items in the OS9 Extensions manager. - repairing permissions. - obtained all of the OS updates from the Apple site. These problems have me quite frustrated. mike moore Out of interest, have you looked at the startup items for OS X? Seeya Rod -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see.
Re: Problems with Office 98 in Classic
It varies: - sometimes it freezes after a number of saves. - it always freezes after i have tried to send the file direct to the printer (Epson Stylus Color 1160) - sometimes it will freeze on print to PDF. I have learnt to: - save before I try to print. - print to PDF and then print that to the printer. What is weird is that it will print from Excel with no problem at all. mike moore On 14/07/2005, at 7:59 AM, Mervyn Giuliana Bond wrote: Mike My son has an iMac with 10.4. When he attempts to print but changes printer to do so, the application quits. Does your freeze occurs after selecting another printer or re-selecting your printer? Merv At 3:35 PM +0800 13/7/05, Mike MOORE wrote: Many thanks Rod That had not occurred to me - having deleted it from the list it no longer starts up by itself on log in. Now if i can figure out how to stop Word from freezing every time I print I will be a happy little vegemite again. mike moore On 13/07/2005, at 3:09 PM, Rod wrote: On 13/07/2005, at 3:01 PM, Mike MOORE wrote: Robert Thanks for your suggestions I have tried: - trashing all of the MS office preferences in OS9. - rebuilding the OS9 Desktop. - disabling startup items in the OS9 Extensions manager. - repairing permissions. - obtained all of the OS updates from the Apple site. These problems have me quite frustrated. mike moore Out of interest, have you looked at the startup items for OS X? Seeya Rod -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Problems with Office 98 in Classic
Just a thought : A problem like this, in OS9 would immediately bring to mind the amount of RAM allocated to the Application. OSX is supposed to control Ram allocation, but I wonder if... ! ? Can I suggest you do an Apple I on the OS9 Classic App doing the Printing and increase the allocated RAM. Bob On 14/07/2005, at 5:19 AM, Mike MOORE wrote: It varies: - sometimes it freezes after a number of saves. - it always freezes after i have tried to send the file direct to the printer (Epson Stylus Color 1160) - sometimes it will freeze on print to PDF. I have learnt to: - save before I try to print. - print to PDF and then print that to the printer. What is weird is that it will print from Excel with no problem at all. mike moore On 14/07/2005, at 7:59 AM, Mervyn Giuliana Bond wrote: Mike My son has an iMac with 10.4. When he attempts to print but changes printer to do so, the application quits. Does your freeze occurs after selecting another printer or re-selecting your printer? Merv At 3:35 PM +0800 13/7/05, Mike MOORE wrote: Many thanks Rod That had not occurred to me - having deleted it from the list it no longer starts up by itself on log in. Now if i can figure out how to stop Word from freezing every time I print I will be a happy little vegemite again. mike moore On 13/07/2005, at 3:09 PM, Rod wrote: On 13/07/2005, at 3:01 PM, Mike MOORE wrote: Robert Thanks for your suggestions I have tried: - trashing all of the MS office preferences in OS9. - rebuilding the OS9 Desktop. - disabling startup items in the OS9 Extensions manager. - repairing permissions. - obtained all of the OS updates from the Apple site. These problems have me quite frustrated. mike moore Out of interest, have you looked at the startup items for OS X? Seeya Rod
some interesting and good news on Intel Macs
OK rumor but still looks promising: http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1175 -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph# 61-8-6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) Ubi fumus, ibi fumus http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
Spelling in Word in Office 2004
I recently installed Office 2004 and am having problems with the dictionary in Word. Am using OS 10.4.1 Spelling works with Entourage but not Word. The Australian Spelling Dictionary appears in the Proofing Tools folder in Shared Applications. But in Word, Spelling does not appear under Tools and Spelling is greyed out in the Spelling Preferences. Is this a common problem for Office 2004? I have done all the upgrades available on the website. Spelling works in my old copy of MS Office Word X. Do I have to completely uninstall my Office X to get 2004 to work? I also find 2004 is slower than X but that may be because I have both programs in my applications file. Any suggestions, other than not to use MS :-) would be appreciated. Lloyd --
For those of you with external firewire drives...
Hi... I'm trying to determine if a weird behaviour is just my machine or is more widespread. Out of interest, if you've got a few minutes to spare, and you have the following * A Mac running 10.3.x or 10.4.x * An external firewire drive with a 1Gb file on it and enough spare disk space to duplicate that file once. The procedure: Using the Finder to duplicate a ( 1Gb) file that's already on your external firewire drive. Open Terminal type cmp hit the space bar and drag the original file and then the duplicate file onto the terminal window (terminal should insert their paths into the window). Hit return Wait for cmp to complete. If you get a message that says the files are different, please let me know. Thanks, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
MacOS 10.4.2 quirks?
Used Software Update to install OS 10.4.2 on my G4/800. Thereafter, I couldn't connect using ISDN. My internet settings seemed to be altered by the update. The Connection Log stated that my Connect script failed. After much fiddling with the Network connections, including re-setting the PPP options, I was able to connect. May have been a fluke but... MacFixit reports some users lost connectivity with Airport/Wireless setups after OS 10.4.2 updates. This is the only hassle I've had with Tiger. I'm quite pleased with it. Vlad James
Appleworks document saving
I have been using Appleworks 6.2.7 on OSX 10.3.9 to type up song lyrics. As is my habit, I like to save as I go along. At first I used Save As named the document and saved to the location I wanted. When I went to the File menu after this, Save was feint and using Save As got a message The file is in use by another application At the end, I printed and closed, with no warning to save changes so I am left with the first save which was about 1/3 of the document. I'm sure this doesn't usually happen. Any ideas. Andrew
Re: Tiger
Solved Font issue from 10.3.8 Didn't solve audio problem which i'm still looking into from 10.3.7 Made Bluetooth worse Stuffed up Printer drivers (which has been solved with some fiddling) so one +, two -'s Will try 10.4.2 to see if that solves bluetooth. WEZ!
Re: Tiger
Wez wrote: Solved Font issue from 10.3.8 Didn't solve audio problem which i'm still looking into from 10.3.7 Made Bluetooth worse Stuffed up Printer drivers (which has been solved with some fiddling) so one +, two -'s Will try 10.4.2 to see if that solves bluetooth. In the spirit of the West Wing when Sam says to C.J.: [1] Okay. Let’s... I tell you what, let’s forget the fact that you’re coming a little late to the party and embrace the fact that you showed up at all. Dear Wez, and other WAMUG members with problems, I'd suggest that you flesh out your issues, that is, document them fully, then visit the following web-site with your bug report: * http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/bugrptform.html The reason I'm suggesting this is that this current contribution, as it stands here today, and in the WAMUG archive in the future (until a hard-disk dies or the archive gets lost) doesn't actually tell anyone anything at all in any way. So, apart from the pleasure of sharing your feelings, your email served only as a complete waste of bandwidth. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not here to smack you or anything, I'm just pointing out that you have potentially valuable information that might actually help improve the operating system of your choice and you appear to be missing an opportunity. Of course you can just feel insulted and start a whole thread about how I abused you on WAMUG, but that is up to you. For any onlookers, Hi!, yes, I did have my coffee this morning :) [1] MR. WILLIS OF OHIO [Series 1, Episode 6] -- Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S34°45'36.5 - E139°00'08.7 (Mount Pleasant, SA) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tiger
On 14 Jul 2005, at 1:24 PM, Onno Benschop wrote: ay. So, apart from the pleasure of sharing your feelings, your email served only as a complete waste of bandwidth. Not really a waste of bandwidth as I was asking about tiger before upgrading to see if any incompatibilities also YES it's a good idea to report the bugs so far from what I have gleaned and info provided from WAmuggers I think i will experiment with tiger on a non-important machine before changing the entire fleet to tiger Thanks to those who put thier comments in
Dear All Finale :-)
For some reason the email address of Wamug , and some other people dropped out of the 'caravan gp' we set up , my appologies.We attempted to correct what we had noticed Any way I am safely back in WA after having driven back 6066 kms by myself as Sue had to fly to UK where her Father is sick. :-(. It was one hell of a drive, did the last bit from Ceduna to Perth in 3 days and NO i did not exceed the 100 kph I just drove for many hours. It rained from Coober Pedy to Cocklebiddy continuously :-( although good forb the countryside. Coming back into WA at Cocklebiddy there was the most magnificent Rainbow that I have ever seen 145 degrees from end to end ie almost the entire horizon and thicker than I have ever seen. I felt I was indeed entering the 'Promised Land' Will Post photos at later date. Cheers from one half of Sue and Mac. Malcolm McCallum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Office 98 in Classic
Mike My son has an iMac with 10.4. When he attempts to print but changes printer to do so, the application quits. Does your freeze occurs after selecting another printer or re-selecting your printer? Merv Note that the Printer Setup Utility now has a 'Reset Printing System' option under the Printer Setup Utility menu. If you use it it may reset everything and then you can then re-add all your printers, hopefully fixing the problem in the process. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Size of PDFs created under OSX
Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Cheers, Kaye and Geoff -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.kgweb.org.au
Re: Tiger
Dear Wez, and other WAMUG members with problems, I'd suggest that you flesh out your issues, that is, document them fully, then visit the following web-site with your bug report: * http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/bugrptform.html BTW, pparently MacEnterprise.org are organising a publicly accessible bug tracker, so that people can determine if 1000 or so other users have filed the same bug :) Sadly no idea as to when it's going to be available at this stage. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Kaye and Geoff wrote: Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). Can I suggest that you not send an attachment of anything near that size anywhere that includes multiple recipients, instead, upload the file to a web-site and email the URL. -- Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S34°45'36.5 - E139°00'08.7 (Mount Pleasant, SA) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Hi Kaye, How many pages is the PDF? It's hard to say how big the file should be without a few more details about it. Does it have a lot of graphics? If you have Acrobat Professional you can open it and then use the reduce file size option. Kind regards, Kelly On 7/14/05, Onno Benschop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaye and Geoff wrote: Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). Can I suggest that you not send an attachment of anything near that size anywhere that includes multiple recipients, instead, upload the file to a web-site and email the URL. -- Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S34°45'36.5 - E139°00'08.7 (Mount Pleasant, SA) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Yes, have a look at PDF compress: http://www.metaobject.com/Products.html Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Hi, In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 01:52:26PM +0800, Kaye and Geoff wrote: We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). If it's problematic for her to be sending a 5.2MB attachment, it's usually an indication e-mail is not a good medium to be using. Large attachments are fine if you're sending to someone in your own building, or if there is a pre-established relationship that makes it possible. But in those special circumstances, 5.2MB would not be a problem. One reason OS X's PDFs can be large is that they preserve the quality of the printout. Because of this, they will be influenced entirely by the programme that's used to print them. I've always found that getting printouts from Windows + Microsoft Word + Adobe Acrobat is a recipe large, difficult-to-render PDF files. So, I imagine there are similar problems with the Mac version of Word. (However, at least Mac Office 2004 allows you to place PDF logos in Word documents!) Fortunately, you may be able to find a utility to post-process your files to make them smaller. You might also choose to save them as EPS (which will be much larger than the PDF) and then reduce the EPS down to a PDF with Acrobat. You may or may not find that this makes a difference to the final size. Basically, Acrobat can be asked to reduce the quality of parts of the file (e.g. images), or to weed through a document and squeeze out the redundant parts of the PDF (e.g. fonts, repeated images, etc). This allows Acrobat to produce smaller files than OS X 10.3, because OS X 10.3 doesn't give you the quality options.
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Try 'you send it' for sending large files, its non-pedantically free: www.yousendit.com
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Also have a look at PDF Shrink on Versiontracker for the demo and the vendor's web site. I use a couple of tools for PDFs, the wonderful and free Combine PDFs (specially useful if you print from a Word document with multiple sections) and PDF Shrink to reduce the size if you have graphics, lots of fonts or anything else that makes the PDF large. You can also look at PDFLab - it does much the same as Combine PDFs but is more powerful (and correspondingly harder to use). For the casual user these tools are much cheaper than buying Acrobat. The only things missing are a tool to apply security and one to edit/markup. Cheers Greg From: Shay Telfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:25:59 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Yes, have a look at PDF compress: http://www.metaobject.com/Products.html Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
DVD unseen
I have just tried to look at the qicktime files on a DVD I burned but my machine will not recognise if Any ideas as to how to read it. I don't want to say they are lost files tom
Re: DVD unseen
I have just tried to look at the qicktime files on a DVD I burned but my machine will not recognise if Any ideas as to how to read it. I don't want to say they are lost files tom What software did you burn it with? Did you burn it as Data (which disk format?) or Video? What machine are you trying to view it on? What sort of DVD is it? (DVD-R, DVD+R, etc) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
I just did a few quick test's printing a word X doc (3 pages, words and pictures) to PDF using Apple's interface (OS X 10.4.2). - Saving as a plain PDF file 688Kb. - As a PDF-X (supposedly plate ready print compatible) 752Kb. - using the 'compress PDF' command (in the same menu) 232Kb. Now, I'm not saying a 3 page word doc with a few pictures should be even 232Kb (44Kb would be lovely), but it seems okay to me, and prints just fine. I'm taking a guess here, but I think that images dropped into word docs under windows get converted to MS own image format. Under Mac version of office they often remain e.g. a tif file embedded in a word doc. Hence the possible bloat. I know that Adobe seem to think the best file format to save graphics dropped into Word is .png (that's what Illustrator uses when it 'Exports for Microsoft Office') ... you might want to try re-saving the images in the doc, dropping them back in, then use the compress pdf option (if you're running 10.4 of course). The software mentioned by the people in earlier posts is all fine - I'm just suggesting something that won't cost money (unless of course you don't have 10.4 heh heh) Cheers, Tobes. On 14/07/2005, at 3:48 PM, Greg Pennefather wrote: Also have a look at PDF Shrink on Versiontracker for the demo and the vendor's web site. I use a couple of tools for PDFs, the wonderful and free Combine PDFs (specially useful if you print from a Word document with multiple sections) and PDF Shrink to reduce the size if you have graphics, lots of fonts or anything else that makes the PDF large. You can also look at PDFLab - it does much the same as Combine PDFs but is more powerful (and correspondingly harder to use). For the casual user these tools are much cheaper than buying Acrobat. The only things missing are a tool to apply security and one to edit/markup. Cheers Greg From: Shay Telfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:25:59 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Yes, have a look at PDF compress: http://www.metaobject.com/Products.html Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
I'd just like to apologise for the truly awful grammar and narrative style in the post below. Sheesh. T. On 14/07/2005, at 4:10 PM, Toby Oldham wrote: I just did a few quick test's printing a word X doc (3 pages, words and pictures) to PDF using Apple's interface (OS X 10.4.2). - Saving as a plain PDF file 688Kb. - As a PDF-X (supposedly plate ready print compatible) 752Kb. - using the 'compress PDF' command (in the same menu) 232Kb. Now, I'm not saying a 3 page word doc with a few pictures should be even 232Kb (44Kb would be lovely), but it seems okay to me, and prints just fine. I'm taking a guess here, but I think that images dropped into word docs under windows get converted to MS own image format. Under Mac version of office they often remain e.g. a tif file embedded in a word doc. Hence the possible bloat. I know that Adobe seem to think the best file format to save graphics dropped into Word is .png (that's what Illustrator uses when it 'Exports for Microsoft Office') ... you might want to try re-saving the images in the doc, dropping them back in, then use the compress pdf option (if you're running 10.4 of course). The software mentioned by the people in earlier posts is all fine - I'm just suggesting something that won't cost money (unless of course you don't have 10.4 heh heh) Cheers, Tobes. On 14/07/2005, at 3:48 PM, Greg Pennefather wrote: Also have a look at PDF Shrink on Versiontracker for the demo and the vendor's web site. I use a couple of tools for PDFs, the wonderful and free Combine PDFs (specially useful if you print from a Word document with multiple sections) and PDF Shrink to reduce the size if you have graphics, lots of fonts or anything else that makes the PDF large. You can also look at PDFLab - it does much the same as Combine PDFs but is more powerful (and correspondingly harder to use). For the casual user these tools are much cheaper than buying Acrobat. The only things missing are a tool to apply security and one to edit/markup. Cheers Greg From: Shay Telfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:25:59 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Yes, have a look at PDF compress: http://www.metaobject.com/Products.html Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http:// sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
pdf's are only small if you can compress the images and text to less than the original document. Fonts have to be embedded in pdf so if you use multiple ornamental fonts your pdf will most likely be bigger. The biggest issue you will face is no option to compress images well in Word. (i'm assuming there are images in a 2.6MB doc). Just running some quick tests here on my invoice doc (one page with 2 pictures). (225kb file to start with) save as PDF from print dialogue: 888kb file compress PDF option: 278kb file. PDF-X :888kb The problem here is i've already compressed the images as much as possible in photoshop so would require some pretty major work to get it smaller than 225kb. The pdf options don't allow to determine the resolution or compression of those two images and hence can't control the output size very well. Distiller is the adobe PDF creation tool but i haven't seen what it can do with word document or if it works at all. Indesign has some of the best pdf output options so without laying the document out in the i'm not sure what can be done. Wez before i had office reinstalled on this machine i managed to open a work document in imageviewer in 10.4. But can't seem to recreate that which may have led to more export options.
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Decreasing size of pdf files. The easiest way I have found to deal with this is to use a piece of software that is already on your computer. it is called ColorSync Utility.app From finder select the Go menu, and select Utilities Folder. In this folder you will find the ColorSync application. Open the application, then go to the File menu and select open. Find the pdf file you want to shrink and select it. You will see the first page of the pdf file in a 'preview window', and at the bottom of the window you will find a drop down menu with Filter by the side of it. Use the drop down menu to select Reduce File Size, and then click Apply. You can then close and save the document, which will now be a smaller size. It works quite well, and on several occasions I have managed to end up with a file of under 1MB, after starting with file sizes in excess on 10MB. And the big thing is that it is already hiding on your computer. Hope that helps. Daniel F. On 14/07/2005, at 13:52, Kaye and Geoff wrote: Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Cheers, Kaye and Geoff -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
The problem here is i've already compressed the images as much as possible in photoshop so would require some pretty major work to get it smaller than 225kb. The pdf options don't allow to determine the resolution or compression of those two images and hence can't control the output size very well. Distiller is the adobe PDF creation tool but i haven't seen what it can do with word document or if it works at all. Distiller usually works as a printer driver. Something I've noticed on windows is that if I drag/drop a picture onto a page it converts it to its bloatware format, however if I use insert:picture it leaves it jpeg sized. It's made the difference between 2MB files and 100kB files before. I forget if it makes a difference on the Mac side - our drag/drop interface is much better. Andrew
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Howdy, The PDF option has produced some ideas but not significant. Perhaps there is a different approach. The need was to reduce the size of a PC Word document. for transmitting via email. Does anybody have any better approach than the one suggested by Edward Arrowsmith ... using yousendit . Good ifdea but I can't see yet how they pay there way . Bob On 14/07/2005, at 1:52 PM, Kaye and Geoff wrote: Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Cheers, Kaye and Geoff -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Beethoven downloads
No thanks to Channel 7, who have managed to take off Lost for another 2 weeks :-/ It will be a waste of time putting the second series on next year, as most tech-savvy people would have already downloaded the second series (if Torrent is still running then!). I read an article a while ago, that was provided as a link in an email to the WAMUG mailing list, that stated a large increase in viewers had been observed for shows Dr Who and the newish space one (can't remember the name. The article claimed that torrent sharing was responsible for the increase in viewers as people who'd seen the shows and liked them would tell their friends about how good they thought they were and possibly show them enough of the downloaded shows for them to get a taste of what the shows were like. This was when the both of the TV shows were new in Britain so it may not apply to shows that have been around for a while (that is if it really did apply in the first place). Ruben A. Franke
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
On 14/07/2005, at 5:25 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Howdy, The PDF option has produced some ideas but not significant. Perhaps there is a different approach. The need was to reduce the size of a PC Word document. for transmitting via email. Does anybody have any better approach than the one suggested by EDWARD ARROWSMITH using yousendit . Good ifdea but I can't see yet how they pay there way . Bob Partly answering my own mail, there is a second website using the same technique. You upload your file to Dropload or YouSendIt , they send an email address to the required party and it is available for download. Multiple downloads ? I don't know yet. http://www.dropload.com/ http://www.yousendit.com Bob On 14/07/2005, at 1:52 PM, Kaye and Geoff wrote: Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Cheers, Kaye and Geoff -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Kaye and Geoff, There is method to reduce the pdf file using the ColourSync utility. From memory you have to create a new filter, Image Compression. You the can select the jpeg quality, set it to minimum. Compress your pdf file, it should be reduced somewhat. A good utility is PDFshrink, it allows you to set different pdf compressions, like Screen, Print e-book. You may be able to get trial version from versiontracker. Cheers, Peder on 14/7/05 1:52 PM, Kaye and Geoff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We were asked to turn a PC-using friend's MSoft Word docs into PDFs to make them smaller (she needs to email them to multiple recipients). However, the PDF created by printing under OSX (10.2.8) is much larger (5.2Mb) than the original Word document (2.6Mb). We tried the same file on our other Mac (OS10.3.3) and produced a slightly smaller file (5.1Mb). Does anyone know if this is standard for PDFs created in this way, and if Acrobat produces smaller PDFs than those created under OSX? Cheers, Kaye and Geoff
Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
Got some interest in this pdf compression so here are more tests... Tried, Word, OSX, Colour Sync, Acrobat, Distiller, Indesign and PDF Shrink 236KB file Word to pdf = 888KB word to compresses pdf =276KB word pdf to colour sync as mention before = 132KB word pdf to indesign (72dpi, lowwest qual) =156KB word pdf to pdfshrink ebook = 132KB word pdf to pdfsrhink screen = 104KB word pdf to colour sync black a white filter = 100KB word pdf to Acrobat reduce file size option 336KB The small initial file size as mentioned before doesn't do the file justice as the images are well jpeged. - side note on image compression. deleted all images pdf from word was 88KB and run through colour sync stays at 88KB and PDF Shrink stays at 88KB only way to make really tiny files is to avoid images and ornamental fonts or many different fonts. COlour Sync does seem to give very good results. Robert Howells mentioned techniques to send the file from a website. WEZ! couldn't find the image compression filter Peder mentioned distiller didn't touch the file as a word doc or a pdf but i don't know the application well.
OS 10.4.2 and Palm Treo 650
Hi Is anyone using Palm Treo 650 with OS 10.4.2 It won't let us sync with isync so obviously we can't transfer contacts from Apple Address book We're absolutely frustrated I presume the installation process is probably quite simple Can any one help I will also post a call to Palm one support in Sydney and see what they have to say. THanks Ray
Re: OS 10.4.2 and Palm Treo 650
Hi Is anyone using Palm Treo 650 with OS 10.4.2 It won't let us sync with isync so obviously we can't transfer contacts from Apple Address book We're absolutely frustrated I presume the installation process is probably quite simple Can any one help I will also post a call to Palm one support in Sydney and see what they have to say. THanks Ray Have you installed this week's iSync software update? Might help... Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
DNA
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Re: Size of PDFs created under OSX
On 14/07/2005, at 6:24 PM, Wez wrote: couldn't find the image compression filter Peder mentioned distiller didn't touch the file as a word doc or a pdf but i don't know the application well. Distiller will not touch as it takes Postscript files and converts to PDF without loss? Best option for the PDF is Coloursync. Best option specifically, sort file size and formats from within original file and platform, why rediscover the wheel. Cheers! Rob
