Re: .chm files
Hi Mike Many thanks for the links to Chimp and Tubby. I like the names of these apps! Sort of sound like a duo of some sort! They both look good so I will have a closer look when I get some time as Im presently offshore and flatout. Kind regards chris Quoting Mike Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chris, I use Chimp for viewing .chm files - works well although I don't like the chm method of viewing. See: http://www.spherasoft.com/chimp.html I use Tubby for breaking up a .chm file into html files which I can then reassemble into a pdf with Adobe Acrobat. See: http://bluecouch.com/tubby/ Cheers, Mike Fuller On 28/03/2007, at 5:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi muggers I have been passed some files that have a .chm extension and I cant seem to open it with anything in 10.4.8. The files were from a windows computer with a number of pdf's so I thought Adobe reader would open them. No such luck. I did a google and found that .chm are a 'compiled HTML help file' so Im assuming a web browser would open it? Both Firefox and Safari didnt work using 'open file'. Can someone please advise me on what program if any will open these files? Thanks for any advice chris -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange iMacHey
Hey This issue has happened before with many people including myself, I never bothered trying to find a solution to the problem since it was easier to re-image the computer. It has cropped up on this mailing list before but I'm not sure if the latest archives have been put back online after the downtime we had recently! To the guys who work tirelessly for WAMUG, my thanks on efforts go out to you! Thanks, David Moyle -- Bertram, Western Australia E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a cluttered desk is characteristic of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk mean? Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this email are confid.. Were you meant to recieve this? If not, delete it. Please? -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Griffiths Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 11:44 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Strange iMac I have a problem with my 20 iMac. When I try to start it up it goes through the process of starting up i.e. it shows the apple icon and the spinning wheel then it shows the panel with the big X starting the system, then it shows the background picture and nothing else. No dock, no icons nothing but the background pic. Up in the top right hand corner is a tiny piece of the spotlight icon and when I move the cursor into that area I get the spinning coloured wheel? Any ideas!!?? Regards Chris Griffiths -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet port congestion
Hey You could have a switch that you should in theory plug the modem into the uplink port of the switch and you should have internet to anything plugged in and you should be able to plug in the printer Someone else out there can probably provide some more information. Thanks, David Moyle -- Bertram, Western Australia E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a cluttered desk is characteristic of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk mean? Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this email are confid.. Were you meant to recieve this? If not, delete it. Please? -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vladimir James Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 11:34 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Ethernet port congestion Problem: A slot-loading iMac using MacOSX wants to use an old printer, a LaserWriter Select 360. Because the printing protocols have changed when the iMac arrived, it will not recognise the printer. Asante have produced a device (AsanteTalk) which rectifies the problem. It requires the only Ethernet port on the iMac. However, that port is occupied by a broadband modem. Questions: How can the iMac use both the modem and AsanteTalk at the same time? Will a splitter (about $40 at any PC shop) permit both the modem and AsanteTalk to be active? Any other solutions? Vlad James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange iMacHey
Hi... You can try booting whilst holding down command-S to get into single user mode. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106388 This should make obvious any error messages that are being displayed. Then try looking up the error messages on Google (assuming you have a spare computer, of course :) You may also find some of these useful, although they apply to 10.3.9 (I couldn't find anything more recent): http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106464#symp1 Have fun, Shay Hey This issue has happened before with many people including myself, I never bothered trying to find a solution to the problem since it was easier to re-image the computer. It has cropped up on this mailing list before but I'm not sure if the latest archives have been put back online after the downtime we had recently! To the guys who work tirelessly for WAMUG, my thanks on efforts go out to you! Thanks, David Moyle -- Bertram, Western Australia E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a cluttered desk is characteristic of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk mean? Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this email are confid.. Were you meant to recieve this? If not, delete it. Please? -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Griffiths Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 11:44 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Strange iMac I have a problem with my 20 iMac. When I try to start it up it goes through the process of starting up i.e. it shows the apple icon and the spinning wheel then it shows the panel with the big X starting the system, then it shows the background picture and nothing else. No dock, no icons nothing but the background pic. Up in the top right hand corner is a tiny piece of the spotlight icon and when I move the cursor into that area I get the spinning coloured wheel? Any ideas!!?? Regards Chris Griffiths -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Post Codes
When I try and use the Lookup Post Code in the apple address book I get an error message saying it cant connect to Australia Post Site. Does anyone have any clues on this. (G5, OS X 10.4.9) Regards Adrian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Post Codes
In the address book place the Cursor/Pointer over the address section of a card/record and right click, it will be at the bottom of the first group of options. Regards Adrian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Begin forwarded message: From: Severin Crisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 29 March 2007 11:16:18 PM To: Adrian Skehan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Post Codes Where is Lookup postcode in the Apple Address Book? Severin Crisp On 29/03/2007, at 10:57 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote: When I try and use the Lookup Post Code in the apple address book I get an error message saying it cant connect to Australia Post Site. Does anyone have any clues on this. (G5, OS X 10.4.9) Regards Adrian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
airport 802.11n
Hi Can someone explain please how to enable 802.11n on a MacBook Pro? Does it require purchasing a 'key' to activate it? Will doing this improve the quality of the connection to an airport base station? Thanks and best wishes edward -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.docx
Can anyone tell me what application produces a document file with the suffix .docx I can't find anything to open it. Thanks Lloyd -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .docx
Details for file extension: DOCX - Word Microsoft Office Open XML Format Document (Microsoft Corporation) Office Word is an authoring program that gives you the ability to create and share documents using a set of writing tools. This is the new upcoming format for Microsoft Office documents. It is a combination of XML architecture and ZIP compression for size reduction. Microsoft promises the format will be open (published for anyone to use) and prior versions of Office, using components provided by Microsoft for Office 2000, XP, and 2003 will be available to perform document conversion. Remember that these are promises by Microsoft. We have yet to see the actuals. This format is not the same as the OpenDocument standard, also an XML-based standard being developed as a true open standard (see the OpenDocument Fellowship for more information). Regards, Eugene On 30/03/2007, at 8:31 AM, Lloyd White wrote: Can anyone tell me what application produces a document file with the suffix .docx I can't find anything to open it. Thanks Lloyd -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .docx
Thanks Eugene, My client has just got back to me. She was using her husband's computer which has MS Office 2007. Compatibility problems apparently - even with her Windows computer. She has now Saved As RTF and sent that to me so all is well. Regards Lloyd Details for file extension: DOCX - Word Microsoft Office Open XML Format Document (Microsoft Corporation) Office Word is an authoring program that gives you the ability to create and share documents using a set of writing tools. This is the new upcoming format for Microsoft Office documents. It is a combination of XML architecture and ZIP compression for size reduction. Microsoft promises the format will be open (published for anyone to use) and prior versions of Office, using components provided by Microsoft for Office 2000, XP, and 2003 will be available to perform document conversion. Remember that these are promises by Microsoft. We have yet to see the actuals. This format is not the same as the OpenDocument standard, also an XML-based standard being developed as a true open standard (see the OpenDocument Fellowship for more information). Regards, Eugene On 30/03/2007, at 8:31 AM, Lloyd White wrote: Can anyone tell me what application produces a document file with the suffix .docx I can't find anything to open it. Thanks Lloyd -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lloyd White 22 Challenger Parade City Beach Western Australia 6015 Ph: and Fax: (08) 9385 8174 Write a Winning Job Application 3rd Edition. http://lloydwhite.iinet.net.au/ -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft on Mac
Hello (WA)Muggers, What is the best programme for running Windows on Mac??? Any suggestions?? Rosalyn -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
apology for Tuesday meeting
Hi all, just to let you know I will be away next week, so not able to video the meeting. cheers, Susan. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SonyEricsson Phone
Hi I¹m considering buying the SonyEricsson Z601i ? Has anybody had experiences with this phone? Does it sync in with MacBookPro easily? Any comments on your experiences with the phone are welcome? Regards Maureen -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SonyEricsson Phone
I've got a Z800i and my folks have Z610is. Neither of us have any problems with syncing. GPRS over Bluetooth is great while you're on the train. Mal - Original Message - From: Maureen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: SonyEricsson Phone Hi I¹m considering buying the SonyEricsson Z601i ? Has anybody had experiences with this phone? Does it sync in with MacBookPro easily? Any comments on your experiences with the phone are welcome? Regards Maureen -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
test only
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17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
I don¹t know why I haven¹t noticed this previously, I¹ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body. For all you electrical engineers come health experts, is this some kind of a health risk? I spend a large part of most days with this thing on my lap. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
On 30/03/2007, at 11:56 AM, Steven wrote: I don¹t know why I haven¹t noticed this previously, I¹ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body. For all you electrical engineers come health experts, is this some kind of a health risk? I spend a large part of most days with this thing on my lap. Cheers, Steven Steven , You do not say whether you have the Power book connected to the mains when this occurs . If so , try it with mains unit disconnected ( That isUNPLUGGED ) BOB -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
Hi Steven, I must have very conductive skin as I have noticed this phenomena with my current MB Pro and my previous PB. This only occurs when the computer is attached to the powerblock. I can, at times, feel it when I run my finger on the metallic case (very sensual!) but it is most profound when I have it on my lap and touch someone else on the skin. Regards, Eugene On 30/03/2007, at 11:56 AM, Steven wrote: I don¹t know why I haven¹t noticed this previously, I¹ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body. For all you electrical engineers come health experts, is this some kind of a health risk? I spend a large part of most days with this thing on my lap. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
Thanks Bob. Just tried with and without battery charger connecting Powerbook to mains. Vibrations when connected, they stop when disconnected. I have the charger plugged in most of the time. Are we talking health risk in that case do you think? Steven On 30/3/07 2:28 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/03/2007, at 11:56 AM, Steven wrote: I don¹t know why I haven¹t noticed this previously, I¹ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body. For all you electrical engineers come health experts, is this some kind of a health risk? I spend a large part of most days with this thing on my lap. Cheers, Steven Steven , You do not say whether you have the Power book connected to the mains when this occurs . If so , try it with mains unit disconnected ( That isUNPLUGGED ) BOB -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
Good, at least I know it's not just me imagining things :-) Should we be concerned though? On 30/3/07 2:29 PM, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steven, I must have very conductive skin as I have noticed this phenomena with my current MB Pro and my previous PB. This only occurs when the computer is attached to the powerblock. I can, at times, feel it when I run my finger on the metallic case (very sensual!) but it is most profound when I have it on my lap and touch someone else on the skin. Regards, Eugene On 30/03/2007, at 11:56 AM, Steven wrote: I don¹t know why I haven¹t noticed this previously, I¹ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body. For all you electrical engineers come health experts, is this some kind of a health risk? I spend a large part of most days with this thing on my lap. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
On 30/03/2007, at 12:29 PM, Eugene wrote: Hi Steven, I must have very conductive skin as I have noticed this phenomena with my current MB Pro and my previous PB. This only occurs when the computer is attached to the powerblock. I can, at times, feel it when I run my finger on the metallic case (very sensual!) but it is most profound when I have it on my lap and touch someone else on the skin. Regards, Eugene Eugene , Steven , Your Power block is most likelySUPPOSEDto be Double Insulated and using ONLY a2 pin plug to connect to the wall 3 pin socket . I suspect the case of your Power Book is electricallyHOT which it SHOULD NOT BE ! CAREFUL GUYS . You really need somebody with an Oscilliscope who can confirm what frequency it is that is electrifying your Power Book case ... ? mains frequency ?or CPU frequency ... looking for a path to ground . Bob On 30/03/2007, at 11:56 AM, Steven wrote: I don¹t know why I haven¹t noticed this previously, I¹ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body. For all you electrical engineers come health experts, is this some kind of a health risk? I spend a large part of most days with this thing on my lap. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
Thanks Bob. I'm afraid I'm a little clueless as to what all that means though. How do I make my power block (is that the same thing as the power point?) double insulated? My Powerbook charger has a 2-pin plug on it, and yes, it is a 3-pin socket. Are you saying this shouldn't be the case? Is there such a thing as a 3-pin Powerbook charger? Is there anything that I can do if not? What does electrically hot mean? Should I go get checked for total body cancer? Which of my internal organs have been slowly fried? (I must have had this thing on my lap for something like 2,000 hours over the past 15 months - yikes). Which multi-national should I sue?! Cheers, Steven On 30/3/07 2:41 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/03/2007, at 12:29 PM, Eugene wrote: Hi Steven, I must have very conductive skin as I have noticed this phenomena with my current MB Pro and my previous PB. This only occurs when the computer is attached to the powerblock. I can, at times, feel it when I run my finger on the metallic case (very sensual!) but it is most profound when I have it on my lap and touch someone else on the skin. Regards, Eugene Eugene , Steven , Your Power block is most likelySUPPOSEDto be Double Insulated and using ONLY a2 pin plug to connect to the wall 3 pin socket . I suspect the case of your Power Book is electricallyHOT which it SHOULD NOT BE ! CAREFUL GUYS . You really need somebody with an Oscilliscope who can confirm what frequency it is that is electrifying your Power Book case ... ? mains frequency ?or CPU frequency ... looking for a path to ground . Bob On 30/03/2007, at 11:56 AM, Steven wrote: I don¹t know why I haven¹t noticed this previously, I¹ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body. For all you electrical engineers come health experts, is this some kind of a health risk? I spend a large part of most days with this thing on my lap. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
Hi Steven, just did a Google on mildelectricshockMacBook . Apparently it is quite normal, first acknowledged in the days of the TiBook. Below is what one respondent wrote to the query. Mind you I never get a spark just a very minor buzz sensation through the skin. Regards, Eugene The problem is that the Powerbook will ALWAYS shock you if you're running it on mains electricity through the two-prong adapter (rather than the extension cord), since the casing will always have a very slight but measurable AC current running through it (117V AC). I know this because my Alubook would ALWAYS spark when I connected my firewire hard drives and audio interface (which have their own power supplies), and I called up Apple, concerned about a Powerbook grounding defect frying several thousand dollars' worth of studio hardware. Apparently, it's normal. They told me to use the three-prong extension cord if I was feeling alarmed. So I do. On 30/03/2007, at 12:58 PM, Steven wrote: Thanks Bob. I'm afraid I'm a little clueless as to what all that means though. How do I make my power block (is that the same thing as the power point?) double insulated? My Powerbook charger has a 2-pin plug on it, and yes, it is a 3-pin socket. Are you saying this shouldn't be the case? Is there such a thing as a 3-pin Powerbook charger? Is there anything that I can do if not? What does electrically hot mean? Should I go get checked for total body cancer? Which of my internal organs have been slowly fried? (I must have had this thing on my lap for something like 2,000 hours over the past 15 months - yikes). Which multi-national should I sue?! Cheers, Steven On 30/3/07 2:41 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/03/2007, at 12:29 PM, Eugene wrote: Hi Steven, I must have very conductive skin as I have noticed this phenomena with my current MB Pro and my previous PB. This only occurs when the computer is attached to the powerblock. I can, at times, feel it when I run my finger on the metallic case (very sensual!) but it is most profound when I have it on my lap and touch someone else on the skin. Regards, Eugene Eugene , Steven , Your Power block is most likelySUPPOSEDto be Double Insulated and using ONLY a2 pin plug to connect to the wall 3 pin socket . I suspect the case of your Power Book is electricallyHOT which it SHOULD NOT BE ! CAREFUL GUYS . You really need somebody with an Oscilliscope who can confirm what frequency it is that is electrifying your Power Book case ... ? mains frequency ?or CPU frequency ... looking for a path to ground . Bob On 30/03/2007, at 11:56 AM, Steven wrote: I don¹t know why I haven¹t noticed this previously, I¹ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body. For all you electrical engineers come health experts, is this some kind of a health risk? I spend a large part of most days with this thing on my lap. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
Hi Steven, when I got my MB Pro I got an extension cord with 3 prongs that went into the Power Charger and a small 2 pronged plug that connects directly to the power charger. I feel that this is what he was referring to. Interesting at work (now) I'm on the extension cord and don't notice the buzz but at home I'm always on the plug as I have a socket near my laptop and it is here that I have noticed the buzz, perhaps there is something to his comment. Regards, Eugene On 30/03/2007, at 1:33 PM, Steven wrote: Thanks Eugene. Interesting. An intermittent electric shock is one thing, but I wonder about the effects of a long term stream of electric current running through my body? I have little understanding of electricity I'm afraid :-( I understand an electrical current flowing through you is good for keeping corrosion at bay though, so at least I shouldn't rust :-) Whether it's normal behaviour for the Powerbook doesn't answer the question of whether it's bad for your body though. The respondent you quote mentions THE three-prong extension. Is this some kind of standard piece of equipment that came with a Powerbook? If so, I guess I'll go rummaging through my stuff and try find it. Cheers, Steven On 30/3/07 3:08 PM, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steven, just did a Google on mildelectricshockMacBook . Apparently it is quite normal, first acknowledged in the days of the TiBook. Below is what one respondent wrote to the query. Mind you I never get a spark just a very minor buzz sensation through the skin. Regards, Eugene The problem is that the Powerbook will ALWAYS shock you if you're running it on mains electricity through the two-prong adapter (rather than the extension cord), since the casing will always have a very slight but measurable AC current running through it (117V AC). I know this because my Alubook would ALWAYS spark when I connected my firewire hard drives and audio interface (which have their own power supplies), and I called up Apple, concerned about a Powerbook grounding defect frying several thousand dollars' worth of studio hardware. Apparently, it's normal. They told me to use the three-prong extension cord if I was feeling alarmed. So I do. On 30/03/2007, at 12:58 PM, Steven wrote: Thanks Bob. I'm afraid I'm a little clueless as to what all that means though. How do I make my power block (is that the same thing as the power point?) double insulated? My Powerbook charger has a 2-pin plug on it, and yes, it is a 3-pin socket. Are you saying this shouldn't be the case? Is there such a thing as a 3-pin Powerbook charger? Is there anything that I can do if not? What does electrically hot mean? Should I go get checked for total body cancer? Which of my internal organs have been slowly fried? (I must have had this thing on my lap for something like 2,000 hours over the past 15 months - yikes). Which multi-national should I sue?! Cheers, Steven On 30/3/07 2:41 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/03/2007, at 12:29 PM, Eugene wrote: Hi Steven, I must have very conductive skin as I have noticed this phenomena with my current MB Pro and my previous PB. This only occurs when the computer is attached to the powerblock. I can, at times, feel it when I run my finger on the metallic case (very sensual!) but it is most profound when I have it on my lap and touch someone else on the skin. Regards, Eugene Eugene , Steven , Your Power block is most likelySUPPOSEDto be Double Insulated and using ONLY a2 pin plug to connect to the wall 3 pin socket . I suspect the case of your Power Book is electricallyHOT which it SHOULD NOT BE ! CAREFUL GUYS . You really need somebody with an Oscilliscope who can confirm what frequency it is that is electrifying your Power Book case ... ? mains frequency ?or CPU frequency ... looking for a path to ground . Bob On 30/03/2007, at 11:56 AM, Steven wrote: I don’t know why I haven’t noticed this previously, I’ve had my current Powerbook for nearly three years, but today, whilst I had my Powerbook on my lap, my three year old daughter stood next to me. She had some glitter on her shoulder, so I went to brush it off with my finger, but when I touched her skin it felt really weird. Cut a long story short, I figured out that the weirdness stopped when I wasn't holding or touching the Powerbook. But when I was, and when I touched my daughter's skin, it seems like tiny vibrations are what is giving the weird sensation. My daughter says it tickles. I imagine this has something to do with why occasionally I get a small electric shock or static sensation on the inside part of my lower arm when it rests on the Powerbook. I guess it must be electricity running through my body.
Re: 17 Powerbook sends vibrations through body ?
Hi Bob, the MB ships with both of them. If you look at the Apple site it is described this way.. An AC cord is provided with the adapter for maximum cord length, while the AC wall adapter (also provided) gives users an even easier and more compact way to travel. My 2 pin adaptor and 3 pin extension cord both plug into my power adaptor. Regards, Eugene Eugene , just what 3 prong extension cord is this ? Does your 2 pin Power block plug into the end of it ? Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
