Re: Bigpond mail problems: FW: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2008-04-22 Thread Lloyd White
Yes, it is still happening as of 5 minutes ago. Only with bigpond addresses.
I am using iinet too.


Lloyd 


 
 Not rectified though Ronni, I just got another Delivery Status Notification
 email (delivery attempts: 12) for an email sent around 13:00 yesterday.
 
 Thanks for the help!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil





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Re: WARNING AND SORRY

2008-04-22 Thread pweaver
I don't think Peter has anything to be sorry about.  I got the same
immediate response after I sent a message to the WAMUG server and I
hadn't looked at his or anyone elses posts for a couple of days.  The
message that came through had a link to a Russian chat list. 

Kind wishes, Paul.  


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Re: Bigpond mail problems: FW: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2008-04-22 Thread Mike Fuller
I am now getting the same with sending several different emails to  
bigpond addresses through Optusnet.


I think this is bigger than just blocking certain servers. Are any  
bigpond users getting their mail delivered to other bigpond addresses?


Cheers

Mike Fuller
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On 22/04/2008, at 5:28 PM, Lloyd White wrote:
Yes, it is still happening as of 5 minutes ago. Only with bigpond  
addresses.

I am using iinet too.


Lloyd




Not rectified though Ronni, I just got another Delivery Status  
Notification
email (delivery attempts: 12) for an email sent around 13:00  
yesterday.


Thanks for the help!


Cheers


Neil






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Re: Bigpond mail problems: FW: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2008-04-22 Thread Geoffrey Barbara Maidment
Yes, I've also been having trouble with bigpond addresses again just lately.
I had a major problem around Christmas and also with some other domains.
Come to find out, some bright spark with our same IP address decided to send
out a massive quantity of spam, so everything was being rejected by major
domains around the worldbigpond, hotmail, comcast, etc.  It took nearly
2 weeks to completely clear.

Don't know if that's what's happening now, but would guess not as I've only
a fraction of bounce-backs and only from bigpond this time.

Barb


On 22/4/08 10:20 AM, Neil Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone else experiencing bigpond email problems?
 
 Yesterday I was getting an error message trying to retrieve mail from
 bigpond (other non-bipgpond email accounts working fine). To keep an eye on
 things I sent off a couple of test emails to my bigpond address.
 
 Later the connection problem seemed to resolve and I no longer get error
 messages trying to retrieve mail - however my test messages did not come
 back.
 
 Then I got a Delivery Status Notification email - similar to the one below
 but at less delivery attempts (5 from memory).
 
 So I sent another (third) test message - and this went through OK and I
 received it back very quickly - so I assumed everything was now OK (though I
 wondered what happened to the first two test messages).
 
 This morning when I fired up the email there were more Delivery Status
 Notification emails (including one below) which correspond to both the first
 two test messages.
 
 So I sent another test message - and so far I have not got that back either
 (no Delivery Status Notifications for this one yet).
 
 So... If I am reading the error message correctly:
 
 - the SMTP server at my ISP Internode is still trying to send my first two
 test messages but bigpond is not accepting them?
 
 - although the message says temporary failure and not accepting messages
 at this time a subsequent message (test 3) WAS accepted and got through (so
 messages WERE being accepted at that time) but the original two were still
 not accepted.
 
 - although no Delivery Status Notification has been received as yet, a
 fourth test email has still not been received despite a number of receive
 attempts which seemed to connect without problem - so it seems bigpond is
 still not accepting email to my bigpond address.
 
 Is anyone else with bigpond experiencing similar problems. Anyone have any
 ideas?
 
 By the way, just to clarify:
 
 - I used to have bigpond dial-up so have a bigpond email account.
 - I went to Broadband with Internode (so all outgoing emails are sent
 through the Internode SMTP serverbut kept the cheapest bigpond dial-up
 ($25/year) to keep my bigpond email address.
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil

-- 
Geoffrey and Barbara Maidment
Idleyld Farm
477 Cowaramup Bay Road
Cowaramup 6284 Western Australia

ph/fx +61 8 9755 5265
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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Re: Bigpond mail problems: FW: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2008-04-22 Thread Malcolm McCallum
As a Westnet user I  have watched the 'Bigpond problem' with interest.  
i must admit I have wondered what the contract specifies. Surely there  
must be someway that the user can demand that Bigpond delivers  
legitimate emails delivered to them. Despite their size they are still  
subject to the law of contract.


Mac
On 23/04/2008, at 9:11 AM, Geoffrey  Barbara Maidment wrote:

Yes, I've also been having trouble with bigpond addresses again just  
lately.
I had a major problem around Christmas and also with some other  
domains.
Come to find out, some bright spark with our same IP address decided  
to send
out a massive quantity of spam, so everything was being rejected by  
major
domains around the worldbigpond, hotmail, comcast, etc.  It took  
nearly

2 weeks to completely clear.

Don't know if that's what's happening now, but would guess not as  
I've only

a fraction of bounce-backs and only from bigpond this time.

Barb


On 22/4/08 10:20 AM, Neil Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is anyone else experiencing bigpond email problems?

Yesterday I was getting an error message trying to retrieve mail from
bigpond (other non-bipgpond email accounts working fine). To keep  
an eye on

things I sent off a couple of test emails to my bigpond address.

Later the connection problem seemed to resolve and I no longer get  
error
messages trying to retrieve mail - however my test messages did not  
come

back.

Then I got a Delivery Status Notification email - similar to the  
one below

but at less delivery attempts (5 from memory).

So I sent another (third) test message - and this went through OK  
and I
received it back very quickly - so I assumed everything was now OK  
(though I

wondered what happened to the first two test messages).

This morning when I fired up the email there were more Delivery  
Status
Notification emails (including one below) which correspond to both  
the first

two test messages.

So I sent another test message - and so far I have not got that  
back either

(no Delivery Status Notifications for this one yet).

So... If I am reading the error message correctly:

- the SMTP server at my ISP Internode is still trying to send my  
first two

test messages but bigpond is not accepting them?

- although the message says temporary failure and not accepting  
messages
at this time a subsequent message (test 3) WAS accepted and got  
through (so
messages WERE being accepted at that time) but the original two  
were still

not accepted.

- although no Delivery Status Notification has been received as  
yet, a
fourth test email has still not been received despite a number of  
receive
attempts which seemed to connect without problem - so it seems  
bigpond is

still not accepting email to my bigpond address.

Is anyone else with bigpond experiencing similar problems. Anyone  
have any

ideas?

By the way, just to clarify:

- I used to have bigpond dial-up so have a bigpond email account.
- I went to Broadband with Internode (so all outgoing emails are sent
through the Internode SMTP serverbut kept the cheapest bigpond dial- 
up

($25/year) to keep my bigpond email address.

Cheers



Neil


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Idleyld Farm
477 Cowaramup Bay Road
Cowaramup 6284 Western Australia

ph/fx +61 8 9755 5265
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Re: Bigpond mail problems: FW: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2008-04-22 Thread David Nicholas

I've been having this problem since last Friday.

Once I identified what was going on I have been contacting bigpond  
users by phone to send them important information.


In the long run this will be a PRO disaster for Bigpond.  Many of its  
users now know they are not getting important emails they need.  Some  
of them will shift.  Serve Bigpond right.



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Re: Bigpond mail problems: FW: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2008-04-22 Thread Neil Houghton
Thanks to all who replied - it's good to know you're not alone (of course,
it would be even better if it all just worked!).

This morning, my three outstanding test messages were all delivered - so I'm
guessing that Pigpond have finally got it working.

The trouble is, of course, that although the server I go through warned me:

 Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old

many sending servers (newsletters etc) are probably not set to keep trying
that long - so those emails will just get lost. There can also be other
consequences:

Recently I had a recurring problem with the mail server at the hosting
provider for my personal domain (to be fair to them, I am currently on a
free service and they understandably prioritise paying customers). I then
noticed that I seemed to have stopped getting a number of Fairfax
newsletters which I had subscribed to using email addresses on that domain.
The provider assured me that there was now nothing stopping the newsletters
getting through and a check on the Fairfax site confirmed I was still
subscribed.

It then occurred to me that the newsletter server might have some automated
process which flags you as a problem or non-existent email address if too
many messages are undelivered - without actually unsubscribing you.

Just re-setting my subscriptions didn't seem to help, so I unsubscribed
myself from the lists which had stopped getting through and after waiting
for more than 24 hours (which Fairfax says it can take for changes to take
effect) I then re-subscribed to the lists. This seemed to do the trick and I
started receiving the newsletters again.

So just in case anyone with a Bigpond email address was missing newsletters
during the latest problems - and the newsletters don't re-start after the
problem is fixed - that is a possible explanation/solution.


Cheers



Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



on 23/4/08 9:11 AM, Geoffrey  Barbara Maidment at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Yes, I've also been having trouble with bigpond addresses again just lately.
 I had a major problem around Christmas and also with some other domains.
 Come to find out, some bright spark with our same IP address decided to send
 out a massive quantity of spam, so everything was being rejected by major
 domains around the worldbigpond, hotmail, comcast, etc.  It took nearly
 2 weeks to completely clear.
 
 Don't know if that's what's happening now, but would guess not as I've only
 a fraction of bounce-backs and only from bigpond this time.
 
 Barb
 
 
 On 22/4/08 10:20 AM, Neil Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is anyone else experiencing bigpond email problems?
 
 Yesterday I was getting an error message trying to retrieve mail from
 bigpond (other non-bipgpond email accounts working fine). To keep an eye on
 things I sent off a couple of test emails to my bigpond address.
 
 Later the connection problem seemed to resolve and I no longer get error
 messages trying to retrieve mail - however my test messages did not come
 back.
 
 Then I got a Delivery Status Notification email - similar to the one below
 but at less delivery attempts (5 from memory).
 
 So I sent another (third) test message - and this went through OK and I
 received it back very quickly - so I assumed everything was now OK (though I
 wondered what happened to the first two test messages).
 
 This morning when I fired up the email there were more Delivery Status
 Notification emails (including one below) which correspond to both the first
 two test messages.
 
 So I sent another test message - and so far I have not got that back either
 (no Delivery Status Notifications for this one yet).
 
 So... If I am reading the error message correctly:
 
 - the SMTP server at my ISP Internode is still trying to send my first two
 test messages but bigpond is not accepting them?
 
 - although the message says temporary failure and not accepting messages
 at this time a subsequent message (test 3) WAS accepted and got through (so
 messages WERE being accepted at that time) but the original two were still
 not accepted.
 
 - although no Delivery Status Notification has been received as yet, a
 fourth test email has still not been received despite a number of receive
 attempts which seemed to connect without problem - so it seems bigpond is
 still not accepting email to my bigpond address.
 
 Is anyone else with bigpond experiencing similar problems. Anyone have any
 ideas?
 
 By the way, just to clarify:
 
 - I used to have bigpond dial-up so have a bigpond email account.
 - I went to Broadband with Internode (so all outgoing emails are sent
 through the Internode SMTP serverbut kept the cheapest bigpond dial-up
 ($25/year) to keep my bigpond email address.
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil



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2008-04-22 Thread Kyle Kreusch
Hi all WAMUG

http://www.gmug.org.au/files/48fe375316d7d4183b4b2424e6aedb06-62.html

You can read the story in full Here Macworld - MUG Shot, WA
http://www.macworld.com.au/blogs/view/mug-shot-wa-355/All/


Kyle

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