Re: Cables: USB 3 - Firewire800

2012-04-27 Thread Stuart Evans
As others have noted Merv.not worth it. I fail to see the value in it
even if it were technically possible. If it were a legacy device that you
just had to have, maybe...but an external Hard Drive? Nup. Just plug it into
your USB port on your iMac and it will work OK, just not as fast as
Firewire800. Alternatively, get an external Firewire 800 case and transfer
the drive (assuming it's not a chipped drive).

Stuart  


On 27/04/12 10:22 AM, hugh griffiths hgr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
 The power issue is the one I would be the most cautious with, USB is 5 v or
 less, but firewire can be up to 40 V ( different ampages as well and I would
 be very worried as the pins for power would be different as well)
 
 Hugh
 
 Subject: Re: Cables: USB 3 - Firewire800
 From: wa...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:03:27 +0800
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 Got in before I did Carlo :) So won't rehash what you've written,..lol :)
 But yes, I'd be a bit cautious. The other thing would be if you'd see any
 real world speed difference. The USB3 would only be running at USB2 speed
 as that is what the Mac would expect, so it's not going to convert to
 Firewire speeds, so I think you'd still be gaining USB2 speeds anyway. So no
 real improvement.
 I could be wrong here, but I also had the impression there were differing
 data versus power consumptions through both a USB and Firewire cable. (ie
 one pulls through or expects more power and data then the other). So wouldn't
 want to fry anything if there was. Again, I could be wrong there,...
 
 Found this info as well, which may help with it...
 /quote
 Firewire is isochronous, basically meaning that you can pump clocked data
 though it in real time. USB works more like TCPIP, with the data chopped up
 into packets and later reassembled. (Thus, at a minimum, you have latency,
 that is, the wait for the data to be put back together.) Second, the
 Firewire protocol allows more direct address to memory (including mass
 storage) with minimal intervention of the CPU.
 /end quote
 
 I can't lay my hands on the other info I thought I had and Siri can only do
 so much when driving,..lol ;)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
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 On 27/04/2012, at 8:46 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi Merv and Peter,
 
 I would be wary of those connectors. Notice they are all on resale sites,
 none are manufacturer sales. They could be fakes.
 
 As I said earlier, I don't believe it is possible to convert USB to Firewire
 with just a simple pin-to-pin cable. USB used the PC as the bus master
 whereas Firewire is a true peer-to-peer connection and required handshaking
 signals back from the disk drive.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 On 27/04/2012, at 7:10 , Peter Sealy wrote:
 
 I thought I had a vague memory (at my age all memories are vague) of seeing
 USB to Firewire converters somewhere. So I did a quick Google search and
 came up with these. I have not looked in depth at any of them and have not
 explored any further but the Google search will surely find more info.
 
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_kw=USB+A+MALE+TO+IEEE1394+4+PIN+Firewire
 +ADAPTER+CONVERTER
 
http://www.amazon.com/NEEWER®-Travel-Firewire-Cable-Adapters/dp/B00354MVP0

 http://www.ask.com/questions-about/Firewire-USB-Converter
 http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-firewire-to-usb-adapter.htm
 http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/usb-to-firewire-converter.html
 
 Search Google : convert usb to firewire adapter
 
 HTH
 
 ..
 
 Peter Sealy
 Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
 
 She was only a whiskey maker, but he loved her still.
 
 
 
 On 26/04/2012, at 11:28 PM, Merv Bond wrote:
 
 I have been looking on the net at cables, converters and hubs that boast
 connections between USB and firewire. My search is based on wishing to
 connect an external HD with USB3 sockets to my iMac which has a
 Firewire800 socket. Has anyone used such a cable and if so is the
 performance of a quality that is useful? Can a bootable external HD be
 achieved with such a device?
 Merv
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Re: Cables: USB 3 - Firewire800

2012-04-27 Thread Merv Bond
Thank you everyone for your responses. A dealer I spoke to suggested 
such a cable existed but they didn't have one in stock. However, having 
read all your responses I decided that if indeed it did exist there was 
the potential for unpleasant outcomes.
I have just returned from a shopping trip with a 2TB WD My Book Studio 
with Firewire 800 - which raises another question, so I will start a new 
thread.
Regards to all
Merv


On 27/04/12 9:03 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 Got in before I did Carlo :) So won't rehash what you've written,..lol :)
 But yes, I'd be a bit cautious. The other thing would be if you'd see any 
 real world speed difference. The USB3 would only be running at USB2 speed 
 as that is what the Mac would expect, so it's not going to convert to 
 Firewire speeds, so I think you'd still be gaining USB2 speeds anyway. So no 
 real improvement.
 I could be wrong here, but I also had the impression there were differing 
 data versus power consumptions through both a USB and Firewire cable. (ie 
 one pulls through or expects more power and data then the other). So wouldn't 
 want to fry anything if there was. Again, I could be wrong there,...

 Found this info as well, which may help with it...
 /quote
 Firewire is isochronous, basically meaning that you can pump clocked data 
 though it in real time. USB works more like TCPIP, with the data chopped up 
 into packets and later reassembled. (Thus, at a minimum, you have latency, 
 that is, the wait for the data to be put back together.) Second, the 
 Firewire protocol allows more direct address to memory (including mass 
 storage) with minimal intervention of the CPU.
 /end quote

 I can't lay my hands on the other info I thought I had and Siri can only do 
 so much when driving,..lol ;)

 Kind regards
 Daniel

 Sent from my iPhone 4s

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 On 27/04/2012, at 8:46 AM, cm wrote:

 Hi Merv and Peter,

 I would be wary of those connectors. Notice they are all on resale sites, 
 none are manufacturer sales. They could be fakes.

 As I said earlier, I don't believe it is possible to convert USB to Firewire 
 with just a simple pin-to-pin cable. USB used the PC as the bus master 
 whereas Firewire is a true peer-to-peer connection and required handshaking 
 signals back from the disk drive.

 Cheers,
 Carlo


 On 27/04/2012, at 7:10 , Peter Sealy wrote:

 I thought I had a vague memory (at my age all memories are vague) of seeing 
 USB to Firewire converters somewhere. So I did a quick Google search and 
 came up with these. I have not looked in depth at any of them and have not 
 explored any further but the Google search will surely find more info.

 http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_kw=USB+A+MALE+TO+IEEE1394+4+PIN+Firewire+ADAPTER+CONVERTER
 http://www.amazon.com/NEEWER®-Travel-Firewire-Cable-Adapters/dp/B00354MVP0
 http://www.ask.com/questions-about/Firewire-USB-Converter
 http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-firewire-to-usb-adapter.htm
 http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/usb-to-firewire-converter.html

 Search Google : convert usb to firewire adapter

 HTH

 ..

 Peter Sealy
 Thurgoona AUSTRALIA

 She was only a whiskey maker, but he loved her still.



 On 26/04/2012, at 11:28 PM, Merv Bond wrote:

 I have been looking on the net at cables, converters and hubs that boast
 connections between USB and firewire. My search is based on wishing to
 connect an external HD with USB3 sockets to my iMac which has a
 Firewire800 socket. Has anyone used such a cable and if so is the
 performance of a quality that is useful? Can a bootable external HD be
 achieved with such a device?
 Merv
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Partitioning and bootable disks

2012-04-27 Thread Merv Bond
As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a
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Partitioning and bootable backup

2012-04-27 Thread Merv Bond
As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a - oop! sorry, hit the 
wrong button!!

As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a 2TB WD My Book Studio 
with Firewire 800. If I partition it into two 1TB parts can neither, one 
only or each partition be a bootable backup?
Comment appreciated.
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Re: Partitioning and bootable backup

2012-04-27 Thread cm
Hi Merv,

Yes, you can have as many bootable partitions as will fit on your drive. Format 
the partitions as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and use Carbon Copy Cloner or 
SuperDuper to make bootable copies.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 27/04/2012, at 15:19 , Merv Bond wrote:

 As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a - oop! sorry, hit the 
 wrong button!!
 
 As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a 2TB WD My Book Studio 
 with Firewire 800. If I partition it into two 1TB parts can neither, one 
 only or each partition be a bootable backup?
 Comment appreciated.
 Merv
 
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Re: Partitioning and bootable backup

2012-04-27 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Merv,

Just adding to Carlo’s reply.

In order to boot from an Intel based or PPC based Mac, you may need to change 
the partition map. 
The bootable partition Map for PPC is (APM) Apple Partition Map which is 
Apples default. 
The Intel based Macs require (GUID) “GUID Partition Table to be bootable.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 27/04/2012, at 3:26 PM, cm wrote:

 Hi Merv,
 
 Yes, you can have as many bootable partitions as will fit on your drive. 
 Format the partitions as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and use Carbon Copy 
 Cloner or SuperDuper to make bootable copies.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 27/04/2012, at 15:19 , Merv Bond wrote:
 
 As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a - oop! sorry, hit the 
 wrong button!!
 
 As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a 2TB WD My Book Studio 
 with Firewire 800. If I partition it into two 1TB parts can neither, one 
 only or each partition be a bootable backup?
 Comment appreciated.
 Merv
 
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Re: ipad sim in europe

2012-04-27 Thread Laura Webb
I am currently in the UK with my iPad. If unable to make use of free WiFi or 
relatives' wireless systems. I purchase time from BTFon. Easy to arrange on 
line with credit card.There are various options but I find the £15 for five 
days unlimited use works well for me and also used the same system a couple of 
years ago. I see the cost as well worth while to keep me sane.

After a bad experience last year with a French IPad SIM I would not go down 
that path again. I have two weeks coming up in France but deliberately chose 
accommodation (apartment) that includes unlimited broadband access. In my 
experience, most French hotels also offer free WiFi.

Regards to all
Laura



Sent from my iPad


On 27/04/2012, at 12:46 AM, hugh griffiths hgr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
 Hi my parents are traveling in Europe and my mum has taken her ipad with
 her, she purchased a local sim but has been told she cant activate it 
 without connection to a computer and itunes, I thought it was possible 
 to do this manually, but a quick search using google doesn't shed enough 
 light on it for me to advise them, as I don't want to steer them the 
 wrong way and for them to purchase another sim that doesn't work. They 
 will be mainly in the UK and then Spain, then France and finally Italy ( 
 but they wont need a sim in italy, I don't think, as they are staying with 
 friends who are sure to have wifi). Does anyone have experience with 
 setting up ipad2 with latest OS and new sim purchased in UK and or Spain
 and or France?
 
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Re: 1Password

2012-04-27 Thread Stuart Breden
I have no problems syncing with Dropbox.

Stuart Breden
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Kalamunda WA 6926
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On 27/04/2012, at 7:57 AM, lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 hi
 
 looking at getting the 1password app as well and have been looking at the 
 agilebits website about it.
 
 i may get the one for mac and the pro for ipad and iphone.
 
 so heres my one and only questions about it:
 if i want to have 1password on my ipad AND iphone, do i have to get 2 
 licences for the app or can i use the 1 licence for 2 devices?
 
 and im not a fan of syncing with dropbox either.
 
 thanks.
 
 regards
 lynn
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2012 7:44:23 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong 
 Kong / Urumqi
 Subject: Re: 1Password
 
 
 On 26/04/2012, at 9:03 AM, David Wood wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have noted from several members recently that they use the 1Password App.  
 I am about to make the jump in purchasing this App for both our iPads and 
 iPhones, plus our iMac.  Just enquiring as to whether there is anything I 
 should know understand about the setup process to make life easier and also 
 to reconfirm that this is the best password protector on offer at the moment.
 
 Many thanks,
 David
 
 
 
 If 1Password were simply a password protector it would still come highly 
 recommended, but it goes much further than that. It is also an excellent 
 repository for all your software licence codes/serial numbers, credit card 
 details, passport details, etc, all nicely tucked away in a secure 
 environment which can be synced across all your devices. It also allows 
 information like credit card details to be used to autofill forms in web 
 browsers. It's an indispensable tool.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
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Re: 1Password

2012-04-27 Thread Javier Castagnetto
Dropbox is just plain great...and Google offers Google Drive, which is exactly 
the same thing as Dropbox but with 5GB free vrs. 2GB (on either case you can 
purchase more storage).

JC


On Apr 27, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:

 I have no problems syncing with Dropbox.
 
 Stuart Breden

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Housekeeping

2012-04-27 Thread Stuart Breden
There has been various posts about housekeeping.

What is the generally recommended housekeeping of iMacs and with what resources?

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Re: 1Password

2012-04-27 Thread David Wood
Thanks Stuart was going to download and install everything yesterday until 
my good friends at Telstra decided to cut off my phone and broadband... and 
hey, it's the weekend and trying to get anyone there to resolve the problem now 
is. well frankly impossible!!  Hopefully I will be reconnected on Monday.
Thanks again,
David


On 27/04/2012, at 8:24 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:

Easy David.  Make sure you have the extensions on your browsers on each device. 
 Set up a Dropbox account. I use it with Safari and Firefox.  

then pain sailing.

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On 26/04/2012, at 9:03 AM, David Wood wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I have noted from several members recently that they use the 1Password App.  
 I am about to make the jump in purchasing this App for both our iPads and 
 iPhones, plus our iMac.  Just enquiring as to whether there is anything I 
 should know understand about the setup process to make life easier and also 
 to reconfirm that this is the best password protector on offer at the moment.
 
 Many thanks,
 David
 
 
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Re: Partitioning and bootable backup

2012-04-27 Thread Merv Bond
Thanks Ronni, Carlo and Bob.
 From your responses I gather that having made a GUID Partition Table I 
must then format each partition as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
Have I got it right?
Merv

On 27/04/12 3:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 Hi Merv,

 Just adding to Carlo’s reply.

 In order to boot from an Intel based or PPC based Mac, you may need to change 
 the partition map.
 The bootable partition Map for PPC is (APM) Apple Partition Map which is 
 Apples default.
 The Intel based Macs require (GUID) “GUID Partition Table to be bootable.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Yes, you can have as many bootable partitions as will fit on your drive. 
 Format the partitions as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and use Carbon Copy 
 Cloner or SuperDuper to make bootable copies



 On 27/04/2012, at 3:26 PM, cm wrote:

 Hi Merv,

 Yes, you can have as many bootable partitions as will fit on your drive. 
 Format the partitions as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and use Carbon Copy 
 Cloner or SuperDuper to make bootable copies.

 Cheers,
 Carlo

 On 27/04/2012, at 15:19 , Merv Bond wrote:

 As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a - oop! sorry, hit the
 wrong button!!

 As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a 2TB WD My Book Studio
 with Firewire 800. If I partition it into two 1TB parts can neither, one
 only or each partition be a bootable backup?
 Comment appreciated.
 Merv

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Re: Partitioning and bootable backup

2012-04-27 Thread Ronda Brown
Yes Merv,

Mac OS Extended (Journaled)  GUID Partition Table

If you need anymore information I have on my website a PDF I created “How To: 
Format  Partition External Drive for Time Machine”.
Even though you will not be using Time Machine to backup to this drive as Time 
Machine is NOT bootable.

After you format and Partition your External Drive you will use Carbon Copy 
Cloner or SuperDuper to create bootable backups.

If you wish to download my tutorial, you can find it at  http://ronnibrown.net/ 
under page 'Format  Partition External Drive For Time Machine'.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 28/04/2012, at 11:50 AM, Merv Bond wrote:

 Thanks Ronni, Carlo and Bob.
 From your responses I gather that having made a GUID Partition Table I 
 must then format each partition as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
 Have I got it right?
 Merv
 
 On 27/04/12 3:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 Hi Merv,
 
 Just adding to Carlo’s reply.
 
 In order to boot from an Intel based or PPC based Mac, you may need to 
 change the partition map.
 The bootable partition Map for PPC is (APM) Apple Partition Map which is 
 Apples default.
 The Intel based Macs require (GUID) “GUID Partition Table to be bootable.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Yes, you can have as many bootable partitions as will fit on your drive. 
 Format the partitions as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and use Carbon Copy 
 Cloner or SuperDuper to make bootable copies
 
 
 
 On 27/04/2012, at 3:26 PM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi Merv,
 
 Yes, you can have as many bootable partitions as will fit on your drive. 
 Format the partitions as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and use Carbon Copy 
 Cloner or SuperDuper to make bootable copies.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 27/04/2012, at 15:19 , Merv Bond wrote:
 
 As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a - oop! sorry, hit the
 wrong button!!
 
 As mentioned on another thread I have purchased a 2TB WD My Book Studio
 with Firewire 800. If I partition it into two 1TB parts can neither, one
 only or each partition be a bootable backup?
 Comment appreciated.
 Merv
 

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