date:20170519

Re: Security

2017-05-19 Thread Ronni Brown

Hi Daniel and Brian,

I’ve had a good look at Brian’s email message that showed as garbled foreign 
text & symbols.
I’m not sure if the problem is with Brian’s ISP (Bigpond) handling of the 
message sending, encoding, or virus scan?

I compared Daniel’s message All Headers to Brian’s reply All Headers:
Daniel’s message -View > All Headers - all appears as you would expect (normal)
Brian’s reply message -View > All Headers - is quite weird (not normal) 

I’ve shown below an extract from Brian’s message All Headers view:

Authentication-Results: pv33p00im-dmarcmilter009.me.com; dmarc=none 
header.from=bigpond.com
Authentication-Results: pv33p00im-spfmilter001.me.com; spf=none 
(pv33p00im-spfmilter001.me.com: wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au 
does not designate permitted sender hosts) 
smtp.mailfrom=wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au;
Authentication-Results: pv33p00im-dkimmilter005.me.com; dkim=none reason="no 
signature"; dkim-adsp=none
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail-director-02.webinabox.net.au
X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=8/83, refid=2.7.2:2017.5.19.44216:17:8.317, ip=, 
rules=__CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, CTE_BASE64, __HAS_FROM, 
__FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __MIME_VERSION, __DATE_TZ_HK, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, 
__BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, 
__MSGID_APPLEMAIL, __REFERENCES, __IN_REP_TO, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, 
__HAS_X_MAILER, MIME_LOWER_CASE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __HIGHBITS, 
__FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY_POUND, __FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY_DOLLAR, 
__SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __CHAR_CHINESE_UTF8, SUPERLONG_LINE, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, 
BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1400_1499, __MIME_TEXT_P1, 
__MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, __FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY, 
BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, LOCALE_CHINESE, IN_REP_TO, MSG_THREAD, 
LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, 
__MIME_TEXT_P, REFERENCES, NO_URI_HTTPS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS
Return-Path: 
List-Help: 
X-Spam-Flag: NO

I remembered Brian had this issue some time ago and I had responded, but can’t 
remember what the outcome was last time and unfortunately with my filing system 
I haven’t been able to locate the file. 

Kind Regards,
Ronni

> On 19 May 2017, at 9:14 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian
> 
> Nope,….just English (Australia) and English (UK). Then all the other English 
> after that. :)
> Same as I’ve always used to post on both computer and iPhone. :)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
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> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
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> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 8:59 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you David and Ronni
>> 
>> I had all the English languages in order with Australian at the top, 
>> Simplified Chinese was just after all the various English languages.
>> 
>> A mystery...
>> 
>> I wonder if Daniel has the same?
>> 
>> Brian Risbey 
>> OS10.3.2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 16:17, David Noel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brian
>> 
>> The message was mostly in Simplified Chinese Mandarin characters, but there 
>> were many invalid characters, and the message was not in Mandarin. You are 
>> probably right that it was a wrong font setting. I received the message in 
>> English, it was as following:
>> 
>> "Hi Bill
>> 
>> Just in with client, which is why quick replies (as just wanting for some 
>> software to install and quickly checking email between installs).
>> After you double click the DMG and then it opens a Finder window. Before you 
>> click anything else, that is where you need to hold down the Option key.
>> eg. You double click the DMG file. It opens to a “white disk looking icon” 
>> on the desktop. Then before you click whatever icon or installer is there, 
>> you hold down the Control key before you click on it. You’ll then get a pop 
>> up window that you choose “Open” from. the list.
>> It will ask if you want to approve the Application, and you then choose 
>> “open”. It should then open as normal.
>> 
>> If you want to keep it all the time, and it’s not an installer, but an icon 
>> of the Application itself, you drag it into your Applications folder.
>> Then go to Applications folder and before doubling clicking it, you then use 
>> the Control key method. Then the same steps to open it.
>> 
>> It

Re: Security

2017-05-19 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Brian

Nope,….just English (Australia) and English (UK). Then all the other English 
after that. :)
Same as I’ve always used to post on both computer and iPhone. :)

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 7

---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
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> On 19 May 2017, at 8:59 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
> 
> Thank you David and Ronni
> 
> I had all the English languages in order with Australian at the top, 
> Simplified Chinese was just after all the various English languages.
> 
> A mystery...
> 
> I wonder if Daniel has the same?
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> OS10.3.2
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 May 2017, at 16:17, David Noel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian
> 
> The message was mostly in Simplified Chinese Mandarin characters, but there 
> were many invalid characters, and the message was not in Mandarin. You are 
> probably right that it was a wrong font setting. I received the message in 
> English, it was as following:
> 
> "Hi Bill
> 
> Just in with client, which is why quick replies (as just wanting for some 
> software to install and quickly checking email between installs).
> After you double click the DMG and then it opens a Finder window. Before you 
> click anything else, that is where you need to hold down the Option key.
> eg. You double click the DMG file. It opens to a “white disk looking icon” on 
> the desktop. Then before you click whatever icon or installer is there, you 
> hold down the Control key before you click on it. You’ll then get a pop up 
> window that you choose “Open” from. the list.
> It will ask if you want to approve the Application, and you then choose 
> “open”. It should then open as normal.
> 
> If you want to keep it all the time, and it’s not an installer, but an icon 
> of the Application itself, you drag it into your Applications folder.
> Then go to Applications folder and before doubling clicking it, you then use 
> the Control key method. Then the same steps to open it.
> 
> It should then open after that."
> 
> Cheers, David Noel.
> 
> PS. On a computer, Chinese characters use the equivalent of two English 
> letters for one Chinese Character.
> 
> 
> On 19 May 2017 at 15:52, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
> Hi Ronni
> Daniel's text message was in an Asian language. I just was inquiring to if it 
> was supposed to be or if I have a wrong font setting in my iPhone6. 
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> OS10.3.2
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 May 2017, at 13:47, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You can still open any app by right-click (Control-Click) its icon, choosing 
> Open, and then confirming that you want to open it. 
> So you are not prevented from opening any apps, you are simply protected 
> against opening apps from unidentified developers.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 12:48 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel 
>> Could not quite understand your message 
>> 
>> Brian Risbey 
>> OS10.3.2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 12:11, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> (鴢(鴣! 吂�(鴣 
>> 秸壉攣嵄瑏搅暩佈仚ケ攣选暩亜佂祬卑佂嵣晻竵吜習吷虂吂悂呁佈紒ス脱叡皝选呇虂荨暩佈伭山壉暣佂褏裳虂萁笣衼澕伭呁衼蜁嵳丧唁伭山褧嵮ソ竵祬鍓攣$佂〗毡悂櫏箰亝竵
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>> 祬嵼ラ吷懮涔嵔垂呍鴣萆窖旇(鴣!ケ�(鴢(鴣%榿ビ� e虂剚脱吂憛蓯� 5 
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Re: Security

2017-05-19 Thread Brian RISBEY

Thank you David and Ronni

I had all the English languages in order with Australian at the top, Simplified 
Chinese was just after all the various English languages.

A mystery...

I wonder if Daniel has the same?

Brian Risbey 
OS10.3.2


On 19 May 2017, at 16:17, David Noel  wrote:

Hi Brian

The message was mostly in Simplified Chinese Mandarin characters, but there 
were many invalid characters, and the message was not in Mandarin. You are 
probably right that it was a wrong font setting. I received the message in 
English, it was as following:

"Hi Bill

Just in with client, which is why quick replies (as just wanting for some 
software to install and quickly checking email between installs).
After you double click the DMG and then it opens a Finder window. Before you 
click anything else, that is where you need to hold down the Option key.
eg. You double click the DMG file. It opens to a “white disk looking icon” on 
the desktop. Then before you click whatever icon or installer is there, you 
hold down the Control key before you click on it. You’ll then get a pop up 
window that you choose “Open” from. the list.
It will ask if you want to approve the Application, and you then choose “open”. 
It should then open as normal.

If you want to keep it all the time, and it’s not an installer, but an icon of 
the Application itself, you drag it into your Applications folder.
Then go to Applications folder and before doubling clicking it, you then use 
the Control key method. Then the same steps to open it.

It should then open after that."

Cheers, David Noel.

PS. On a computer, Chinese characters use the equivalent of two English letters 
for one Chinese Character.

> On 19 May 2017 at 15:52, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
> Hi Ronni
> Daniel's text message was in an Asian language. I just was inquiring to if it 
> was supposed to be or if I have a wrong font setting in my iPhone6. 
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> OS10.3.2
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 May 2017, at 13:47, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You can still open any app by right-click (Control-Click) its icon, choosing 
> Open, and then confirming that you want to open it. 
> So you are not prevented from opening any apps, you are simply protected 
> against opening apps from unidentified developers.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 12:48 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel 
>> Could not quite understand your message 
>> 
>> Brian Risbey 
>> OS10.3.2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 12:11, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> (鴢(鴣! 吂�(鴣 
>> 秸壉攣嵄瑏搅暩佈仚ケ攣选暩亜佂祬卑佂嵣晻竵吜習吷虂吂悂呁佈紒ス脱叡皝选呇虂荨暩佈伭山壉暣佂褏裳虂萁笣衼澕伭呁衼蜁嵳丧唁伭山褧嵮ソ竵祬鍓攣$佂〗毡悂櫏箰亝竵
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Re: Security

2017-05-19 Thread David Noel

Hi Brian

The message was mostly in Simplified Chinese Mandarin characters, but there
were many invalid characters, and the message was not in Mandarin. You are
probably right that it was a wrong font setting. I received the message in
English, it was as following:

"Hi Bill

Just in with client, which is why quick replies (as just wanting for some
software to install and quickly checking email between installs).
After you double click the DMG and then it opens a Finder window. Before
you click anything else, that is where you need to hold down the Option key.
eg. You double click the DMG file. It opens to a “white disk looking icon”
on the desktop. Then before you click whatever icon or installer is there,
you hold down the Control key before you click on it. You’ll then get a pop
up window that you choose “Open” from. the list.
It will ask if you want to approve the Application, and you then choose
“open”. It should then open as normal.

If you want to keep it all the time, and it’s not an installer, but an icon
of the Application itself, you drag it into your Applications folder.
Then go to Applications folder and before doubling clicking it, you then
use the Control key method. Then the same steps to open it.

It should then open after that."

Cheers, David Noel.

PS. On a computer, Chinese characters use the equivalent of two English
letters for one Chinese Character.

On 19 May 2017 at 15:52, Brian RISBEY  wrote:

> Hi Ronni
> Daniel's text message was in an Asian language. I just was inquiring to if
> it was supposed to be or if I have a wrong font setting in my iPhone6.
>
> Brian Risbey
> OS10.3.2
> 
>
>
> On 19 May 2017, at 13:47, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> You can still open any app by right-click (Control-Click) its
> icon, choosing Open, and then confirming that you want to open it.
> So you are not prevented from opening any apps, *you are simply protected
> against opening apps from unidentified developers.*
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>
> On 19 May 2017, at 12:48 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel
> Could not quite understand your message 
>
> Brian Risbey
> OS10.3.2
> 
>
>
> On 19 May 2017, at 12:11, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>
> (鴢(鴣! 吂�(鴣 秸壉攣嵄瑏搅暩佈仚ケ攣选暩亜佂祬卑佂嵣晻竵吜習吷虂吂悂呁佈紒ス脱叡皝选呇虂荨暩佈
> 伭山壉暣佂褏裳虂萁笣衼澕伭呁衼蜁嵳丧唁伭山褧嵮ソ竵祬鍓攣$佂〗毡悂櫏箰亝竵 亮睌亯胀ス曂虂吂悂羺鋪鸭仭呝攣バ仴雇褏北晲�(鴣I暆吷懱�
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Re: Security

2017-05-19 Thread Ronni Brown

Hi Brian,

On your iPhone Settings> General >Language & Region - iPhone Language English 
and Region Australia?
Click on English, do you have all English listed at the top of the list? 
English (Australia) English (Canada) etc

Apps, websites, menus, and other items use the first language in the list that 
they support. 
You can drag the languages up or down the list to change the order. Tap Edit, 
then tap . 

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 19 May 2017, at 3:52 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> Daniel's text message was in an Asian language. I just was inquiring to if it 
> was supposed to be or if I have a wrong font setting in my iPhone6. 
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> OS10.3.2
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 May 2017, at 13:47, Ronni Brown > 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You can still open any app by right-click (Control-Click) its icon, choosing 
> Open, and then confirming that you want to open it. 
> So you are not prevented from opening any apps, you are simply protected 
> against opening apps from unidentified developers.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 12:48 pm, Brian RISBEY > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel 
>> Could not quite understand your message 
>> 
>> Brian Risbey 
>> OS10.3.2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 12:11, Daniel Kerr > > wrote:
>> 
>> (鴢(鴣!吂�(鴣秸壉攣嵄瑏搅暩佈仚ケ攣选暩亜佂祬卑佂嵣晻竵吜習吷虂吂悂呁佈紒ス脱叡皝选呇虂荨暩佈伭山壉暣佂褏裳虂萁笣衼澕伭呁衼蜁嵳丧唁伭山褧嵮ソ竵祬鍓攣$佂〗毡悂櫏箰亝竵亮睌亯胀ス曂虂吂悂羺鋪鸭仭呝攣バ仴雇褏北晲�(鴣I暆吷懱�
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Re: Security

2017-05-19 Thread Brian RISBEY

Hi Ronni
Daniel's text message was in an Asian language. I just was inquiring to if it 
was supposed to be or if I have a wrong font setting in my iPhone6. 

Brian Risbey 
OS10.3.2



On 19 May 2017, at 13:47, Ronni Brown  wrote:

Hi Brian,

You can still open any app by right-click (Control-Click) its icon, choosing 
Open, and then confirming that you want to open it. 
So you are not prevented from opening any apps, you are simply protected 
against opening apps from unidentified developers.

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 19 May 2017, at 12:48 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel 
> Could not quite understand your message 
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> OS10.3.2
> 
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