Re: Keyboard

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Michael,

Does it happen in TextEdit as well or only in the Pages application?

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 11 Jan 2018, at 8:11 am, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael 
> 
> I don’t know how the keys come off the laptop keypads, but I suspect that 
> something in the switching behind the keys has gone awry. Whether the cats 
> biscuits have worked their way there, or a hair for example is triggering a 
> false signal, is unknown until it’s pulled apart. 
> 
> I understand keys are aligned in groups, so edc and ik, are together. If they 
> play up too then you have real keyboard problem
> 
> That is of course that you still have the correct keyboard selected in 
> preferences and there is no fleshware issue related to phat fingers or the 
> shakes from no coffee. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
>> On 11 Jan 2018, at 5:36 am, Michael Hawkins 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2011) running High Sierra version 
>> 10.13.2.
>> 
>> From time to time this morning the letter e appears on the screen instead of 
>> the letter i, when typing in Pages.
>> 
>> Could this indicate a need to clean the keys?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael.
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 7:07 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am very tempted to try this.  I spilt a cup of tea on my keyboard, after 
>>> it dried out, it does still function, but not so promptly sometimes.
>>> I have a back up keyboard, so it wouldn’t be a great loss if it did go 
>>> caput. Just checking that you were serious in giving these instructions 
>>> robin.
>>> It would be just plain water then?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> jewels
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 5:27 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
 
 Great stuff but not for my iMac Wireless keyboard!
 Severin
 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 16:54, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Back in the day it wasn’t uncommon to put them in the dishwasher. The 
> “Day” was when the keyboard was the Apple Extended Keyboard II (ADB).
> SO, if you’re game here are some basic instructions.
> 
> Make sure you've got a spare keyboard. You must wait at least a week (7 
> days) before the keyboard can be used again after it's been washed, 
> therefore unless you do not plan on using your computer for a week you'll 
> need a spare.
> Do not use any dish soap.
> If your dishwasher has multiple settings, make sure it's a rinse only. Do 
> not use a heavy wash, pots, and pan setting, or any heated drying 
> settings. Any extensive heat will destroy the keyboard.
> Wash the keyboard on the top rack only.
> Do not put anything else in the dishwasher except the keyboard.
> Only try this if your computer keyboard is plastic.
> If you want a more extensive clean under the keys remove each of the keys 
> and wash just the keyboard.
> After the keyboard has been washed, shake it to allow excessive water to 
> drain out. Then tip the keyboard upside down so it is laying on the keys, 
> and let the keyboard dry for seven days.
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 2:12 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim... disconnect the keyboard from the iMac first ;-)
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 12:54 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve just gone through this interesting exercise with a wired Apple 
>>> keyboard
>>> 
>>> First, take a picture of the keyboard so you can refer to it when 
>>> you’re replacing the keys. And also so you can proudly reflect on your 
>>> cleaning prowess. 
>>> 
>>> The safest thing is to not wipe the keys just yet, simply flick them 
>>> out one by one. Once the first comes out you’ll figure out the right 
>>> force and angle, but a small finger placed under the edge of an exposed 
>>> key and flicked up to release the clip is the best action I can 
>>> describe. You may need a spodger to get the first one, a plastic stick. 
>>> 
>>> Once all the keys are off, they can be washed in a bowl of cleaning 
>>> liquid and water, rinsed and dried
>>> 
>>> The exposed base can be wiped clean and the various biscuits you’ll 
>>> deny ever eating, must have been the cat, can be cleaned up. 
>>> 
>>> Then it’s a matter of clicking the clean dry keys back in place, using 
>>> the photo as a guide. 
>>> 
>>> I used an overly damp wipe to start with and found excess liquid has 
>>> seeped into the electronic components so the keyboard failed. 
>>> 
>>> This led me to dismantling it entirely and drying the three layers of 
>>> printed circuit that perform the switching function of the keyboard. 
>>> There are little soft plastic cones that give the soft touch we 

Re: Keyboard

[Tim Law]

Hello Michael 

I don’t know how the keys come off the laptop keypads, but I suspect that 
something in the switching behind the keys has gone awry. Whether the cats 
biscuits have worked their way there, or a hair for example is triggering a 
false signal, is unknown until it’s pulled apart. 

I understand keys are aligned in groups, so edc and ik, are together. If they 
play up too then you have real keyboard problem

That is of course that you still have the correct keyboard selected in 
preferences and there is no fleshware issue related to phat fingers or the 
shakes from no coffee. 

Regards

Tim

Sent from Tim's iPhone

> On 11 Jan 2018, at 5:36 am, Michael Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2011) running High Sierra version 10.13.2.
> 
> From time to time this morning the letter e appears on the screen instead of 
> the letter i, when typing in Pages.
> 
> Could this indicate a need to clean the keys?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael.
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 7:07 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> I am very tempted to try this.  I spilt a cup of tea on my keyboard, after 
>> it dried out, it does still function, but not so promptly sometimes.
>> I have a back up keyboard, so it wouldn’t be a great loss if it did go 
>> caput. Just checking that you were serious in giving these instructions 
>> robin.
>> It would be just plain water then?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> jewels
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 5:27 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great stuff but not for my iMac Wireless keyboard!
>>> Severin
>>> 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 16:54, Robin Belford  wrote:
 
 Back in the day it wasn’t uncommon to put them in the dishwasher. The 
 “Day” was when the keyboard was the Apple Extended Keyboard II (ADB).
 SO, if you’re game here are some basic instructions.
 
 Make sure you've got a spare keyboard. You must wait at least a week (7 
 days) before the keyboard can be used again after it's been washed, 
 therefore unless you do not plan on using your computer for a week you'll 
 need a spare.
 Do not use any dish soap.
 If your dishwasher has multiple settings, make sure it's a rinse only. Do 
 not use a heavy wash, pots, and pan setting, or any heated drying 
 settings. Any extensive heat will destroy the keyboard.
 Wash the keyboard on the top rack only.
 Do not put anything else in the dishwasher except the keyboard.
 Only try this if your computer keyboard is plastic.
 If you want a more extensive clean under the keys remove each of the keys 
 and wash just the keyboard.
 After the keyboard has been washed, shake it to allow excessive water to 
 drain out. Then tip the keyboard upside down so it is laying on the keys, 
 and let the keyboard dry for seven days.
 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 2:12 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim... disconnect the keyboard from the iMac first ;-)
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 12:54 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve just gone through this interesting exercise with a wired Apple 
>> keyboard
>> 
>> First, take a picture of the keyboard so you can refer to it when you’re 
>> replacing the keys. And also so you can proudly reflect on your cleaning 
>> prowess. 
>> 
>> The safest thing is to not wipe the keys just yet, simply flick them out 
>> one by one. Once the first comes out you’ll figure out the right force 
>> and angle, but a small finger placed under the edge of an exposed key 
>> and flicked up to release the clip is the best action I can describe. 
>> You may need a spodger to get the first one, a plastic stick. 
>> 
>> Once all the keys are off, they can be washed in a bowl of cleaning 
>> liquid and water, rinsed and dried
>> 
>> The exposed base can be wiped clean and the various biscuits you’ll deny 
>> ever eating, must have been the cat, can be cleaned up. 
>> 
>> Then it’s a matter of clicking the clean dry keys back in place, using 
>> the photo as a guide. 
>> 
>> I used an overly damp wipe to start with and found excess liquid has 
>> seeped into the electronic components so the keyboard failed. 
>> 
>> This led me to dismantling it entirely and drying the three layers of 
>> printed circuit that perform the switching function of the keyboard. 
>> There are little soft plastic cones that give the soft touch we enjoy. 
>> They fall onto the floor and hide behind chair legs, so some agility may 
>> be required to rescue them. Rest assured They don’t fall out unless you 
>> dismantle the electronics. Once resembled twice, I first put the cones 
>> in the wrong way, my keyboard is clean and functional and has passed the 
>> 

Re: Keyboard

[Michael Hawkins]

I have a MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2011) running High Sierra version 10.13.2.

From time to time this morning the letter e appears on the screen instead of 
the letter i, when typing in Pages.

Could this indicate a need to clean the keys?

Cheers,

Michael.

> On 10 Jan 2018, at 7:07 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> I am very tempted to try this.  I spilt a cup of tea on my keyboard, after it 
> dried out, it does still function, but not so promptly sometimes.
> I have a back up keyboard, so it wouldn’t be a great loss if it did go caput. 
> Just checking that you were serious in giving these instructions robin.
> It would be just plain water then?
> 
> Thanks
> jewels
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 5:27 PM, Severin Crisp > > wrote:
>> 
>> Great stuff but not for my iMac Wireless keyboard!
>> Severin
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 16:54, Robin Belford >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Back in the day it wasn’t uncommon to put them in the dishwasher. The “Day” 
>>> was when the keyboard was the Apple Extended Keyboard II (ADB).
>>> SO, if you’re game here are some basic instructions.
>>> 
>>> Make sure you've got a spare keyboard. You must wait at least a week (7 
>>> days) before the keyboard can be used again after it's been washed, 
>>> therefore unless you do not plan on using your computer for a week you'll 
>>> need a spare.
>>> Do not use any dish soap.
>>> If your dishwasher has multiple settings, make sure it's a rinse only. Do 
>>> not use a heavy wash, pots, and pan setting, or any heated drying settings. 
>>> Any extensive heat will destroy the keyboard.
>>> Wash the keyboard on the top rack only.
>>> Do not put anything else in the dishwasher except the keyboard.
>>> Only try this if your computer keyboard is plastic.
>>> If you want a more extensive clean under the keys remove each of the keys 
>>> and wash just the keyboard.
>>> After the keyboard has been washed, shake it to allow excessive water to 
>>> drain out. Then tip the keyboard upside down so it is laying on the keys, 
>>> and let the keyboard dry for seven days.
>>> 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 2:12 pm, Ronda Brown > wrote:
 
 Hi Tim... disconnect the keyboard from the iMac first ;-)
 
  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
 
 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 12:54 pm, Tim Law > wrote:
 
> I’ve just gone through this interesting exercise with a wired Apple 
> keyboard
> 
> First, take a picture of the keyboard so you can refer to it when you’re 
> replacing the keys. And also so you can proudly reflect on your cleaning 
> prowess. 
> 
> The safest thing is to not wipe the keys just yet, simply flick them out 
> one by one. Once the first comes out you’ll figure out the right force 
> and angle, but a small finger placed under the edge of an exposed key and 
> flicked up to release the clip is the best action I can describe. You may 
> need a spodger to get the first one, a plastic stick. 
> 
> Once all the keys are off, they can be washed in a bowl of cleaning 
> liquid and water, rinsed and dried
> 
> The exposed base can be wiped clean and the various biscuits you’ll deny 
> ever eating, must have been the cat, can be cleaned up. 
> 
> Then it’s a matter of clicking the clean dry keys back in place, using 
> the photo as a guide. 
> 
> I used an overly damp wipe to start with and found excess liquid has 
> seeped into the electronic components so the keyboard failed. 
> 
> This led me to dismantling it entirely and drying the three layers of 
> printed circuit that perform the switching function of the keyboard. 
> There are little soft plastic cones that give the soft touch we enjoy. 
> They fall onto the floor and hide behind chair legs, so some agility may 
> be required to rescue them. Rest assured They don’t fall out unless you 
> dismantle the electronics. Once resembled twice, I first put the cones in 
> the wrong way, my keyboard is clean and functional and has passed the 
> most stringent assessment of my wife. 
> 
> I hope this helps
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 11:46 am, Severin Crisp  > wrote:
> 
>> My iMac keyboard is disgracefully dirty and I find it very difficult to 
>> keep it clean.  I am meticulous about no cups of coffee or the like 
>> within range.  
>> Advice appreciated on  1) getting it respectable again   and 2) keeping 
>> it that way
>> Many thanks
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> 
>>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, 

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[Stephen Chape]

Hi Alan.
I simply check my bank account to see if it is paid.
I don’t like to stress the already busy volunteers we have at WAMUG.

> On 10 Jan 2018, at 7:23 pm, Alan Fenton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> Could we have a receipt  when we pay subscription please or an email so we 
> know our payment was received.
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Re: Keyboard

[Julie Bedford]

I am very tempted to try this.  I spilt a cup of tea on my keyboard, after it 
dried out, it does still function, but not so promptly sometimes.
I have a back up keyboard, so it wouldn’t be a great loss if it did go caput. 
Just checking that you were serious in giving these instructions robin.
It would be just plain water then?

Thanks
jewels
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 5:27 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Great stuff but not for my iMac Wireless keyboard!
> Severin
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 16:54, Robin Belford > > wrote:
>> 
>> Back in the day it wasn’t uncommon to put them in the dishwasher. The “Day” 
>> was when the keyboard was the Apple Extended Keyboard II (ADB).
>> SO, if you’re game here are some basic instructions.
>> 
>> Make sure you've got a spare keyboard. You must wait at least a week (7 
>> days) before the keyboard can be used again after it's been washed, 
>> therefore unless you do not plan on using your computer for a week you'll 
>> need a spare.
>> Do not use any dish soap.
>> If your dishwasher has multiple settings, make sure it's a rinse only. Do 
>> not use a heavy wash, pots, and pan setting, or any heated drying settings. 
>> Any extensive heat will destroy the keyboard.
>> Wash the keyboard on the top rack only.
>> Do not put anything else in the dishwasher except the keyboard.
>> Only try this if your computer keyboard is plastic.
>> If you want a more extensive clean under the keys remove each of the keys 
>> and wash just the keyboard.
>> After the keyboard has been washed, shake it to allow excessive water to 
>> drain out. Then tip the keyboard upside down so it is laying on the keys, 
>> and let the keyboard dry for seven days.
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 2:12 pm, Ronda Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim... disconnect the keyboard from the iMac first ;-)
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 12:54 pm, Tim Law >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I’ve just gone through this interesting exercise with a wired Apple 
 keyboard
 
 First, take a picture of the keyboard so you can refer to it when you’re 
 replacing the keys. And also so you can proudly reflect on your cleaning 
 prowess. 
 
 The safest thing is to not wipe the keys just yet, simply flick them out 
 one by one. Once the first comes out you’ll figure out the right force and 
 angle, but a small finger placed under the edge of an exposed key and 
 flicked up to release the clip is the best action I can describe. You may 
 need a spodger to get the first one, a plastic stick. 
 
 Once all the keys are off, they can be washed in a bowl of cleaning liquid 
 and water, rinsed and dried
 
 The exposed base can be wiped clean and the various biscuits you’ll deny 
 ever eating, must have been the cat, can be cleaned up. 
 
 Then it’s a matter of clicking the clean dry keys back in place, using the 
 photo as a guide. 
 
 I used an overly damp wipe to start with and found excess liquid has 
 seeped into the electronic components so the keyboard failed. 
 
 This led me to dismantling it entirely and drying the three layers of 
 printed circuit that perform the switching function of the keyboard. There 
 are little soft plastic cones that give the soft touch we enjoy. They fall 
 onto the floor and hide behind chair legs, so some agility may be required 
 to rescue them. Rest assured They don’t fall out unless you dismantle the 
 electronics. Once resembled twice, I first put the cones in the wrong way, 
 my keyboard is clean and functional and has passed the most stringent 
 assessment of my wife. 
 
 I hope this helps
 
 Tim
 
 Sent from Tim's iPhone
 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 11:46 am, Severin Crisp > wrote:
 
> My iMac keyboard is disgracefully dirty and I find it very difficult to 
> keep it clean.  I am meticulous about no cups of coffee or the like 
> within range.  
> Advice appreciated on  1) getting it respectable again   and 2) keeping 
> it that way
> Many thanks
> Severin Crisp
> 
> 
>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
> Mob  0484 624 741mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
> 
>   _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: What’s happening in Infinity Loop

[Stephen Chape]

WOW Ronni !
That speech will have me looking for you on the next ballot paper !

> On 10 Jan 2018, at 7:23 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> And how could I forget to mention my most important accessories my ‘AirPods’
> and my Personal Assistant Siri. 
> I purchased the original AirPods as soon as they were announced and they are 
> in my ears all day (& I have on the odd occasion forgotten to take them out 
> at bedtime :( 
> AirPods hands free & Siri keep me organized through my busy days/weeks.
> I never even glance at my iPhone in the car, Siri announces calls coming in & 
> makes outgoing calls for me... etc etc.
> I could not do without either!
> 
> Ok I’m out of here now. ;-))
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 5:54 am, Ronda Brown  > wrote:
> 
>> Oh and I forgot my iPad Pro 12.9-inch... now that’s a great iPad!
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 5:49 am, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Marcus what rock have you been hiding under?
>>> 
>>> What about the latest MacBookPro with Touch Bar, the iPhone X , the latest 
>>> Apple Watch, AppleTV 4K, the new MacPro?
>>> I am with Stephen and never want to have to use a Mac computer with a 
>>> touchscreen.
>>> Keep iOS to iOS devices - macOS to computers!
>>> 
>>> /Quote:
>>> Desktop computers aren’t going away any decade soon. Not if Jony Ive and 
>>> Phil Schiller have to say anything about it. 
>>> In an interview with Ive, Schiller and Magic Man Craig Federighi, Apple’s 
>>> team of vets explain that they don’t plan to ever morph the iPad and Mac 
>>> together to make a Frankenstein desktop tablet like the Surface Studio 
>>> .
>>> 
>>> Jony Ive insists that a touchscreen on the Mac wouldn’t be “particularly 
>>> useful” in the CNet interview 
>>>  that 
>>> reveals the new Touch Bar was in development for two years. 
>>> No TouchBook Pro
>>> 
>>> “We did spend a great deal of time looking at this a number of years ago 
>>> and came to the conclusion that to make the best personal computer, you 
>>> can’t try to turn MacOS into an iPhone,” Schiller says. “Conversely, you 
>>> can’t turn iOS into a Mac…. So each one is best at what they’re meant to be 
>>> — and we take what makes sense to add from each, but without fundamentally 
>>> changing them so they’re compromised.”
>>> 
>>> The new Touch Bar appears to be Apple’s first bridge, of sorts, between iOS 
>>> and macOS. By adding dynamic keys, the Touch Bar makes apps more 
>>> touch-friendly and easier to navigate. A touch-based version of macOS may 
>>> seem like the inevitable step, but Schiller says it would be wreck. 
>>> 
>>> “It is great to provide two different ways to solve some of the same 
>>> things, but they also do very unique things that the other doesn’t,” said 
>>> Phil Schiller. “Having them separate allows us to explore both, versus 
>>> trying to force them into one — and only one — model.”
>>> 
>>> Despite killing the idea of touchscreen MacBook, Jony Ive teased that the 
>>> new feature marks the beginning of some exciting new forms of computing. 
>>> 
>>> “We didn’t want to just create a speed bump on the MacBook Pro,” he says. 
>>> “In our view this is a big, big step forward. It is a new system 
>>> architecture, and it allows us to then create many things to come, things 
>>> that we can’t envision yet.” 
>>> /end Quote
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 Jan 2018, at 9:55 pm, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Gosh Marcus.
 
 I could not imagine trying to clean finger prints and grease off a 21.5 
 inch screen.
 It drives me nuts keeping my iPhone screen clean.
 
 Perhaps all that brain power could come up with a self cleaning screen eh ?
 
> On 9 Jan 2018, at 8:55 pm, Marcus Harris  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Treasurer and members,
> I couldn’t see your personal email Peter, but I just now paid the annual 
> subs as Marcus Harris 2018
> 
> Did members read that extensive article by Jack Hough in The Weekend 
> Australian Dec30-31 Edition.
> It’s entitled “The Trillion Dollar Mark could still be in  Reach”
> It’s still online by googling “Jack Hough Apple".
> 
> With all that capital and all that brain power, I often wonder why 
> there’s been nothing really adventurous in Apple Hardware since the iOS 
> devices were launched by Steve.
> And you would think that a Mac would have a touch screen by now. What’s 
> happening in Infinity Loop?
> Cheers
> 

Re: Keyboard

[Severin Crisp]

Great stuff but not for my iMac Wireless keyboard!
Severin

> On 10 Jan 2018, at 16:54, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Back in the day it wasn’t uncommon to put them in the dishwasher. The “Day” 
> was when the keyboard was the Apple Extended Keyboard II (ADB).
> SO, if you’re game here are some basic instructions.
> 
> Make sure you've got a spare keyboard. You must wait at least a week (7 days) 
> before the keyboard can be used again after it's been washed, therefore 
> unless you do not plan on using your computer for a week you'll need a spare.
> Do not use any dish soap.
> If your dishwasher has multiple settings, make sure it's a rinse only. Do not 
> use a heavy wash, pots, and pan setting, or any heated drying settings. Any 
> extensive heat will destroy the keyboard.
> Wash the keyboard on the top rack only.
> Do not put anything else in the dishwasher except the keyboard.
> Only try this if your computer keyboard is plastic.
> If you want a more extensive clean under the keys remove each of the keys and 
> wash just the keyboard.
> After the keyboard has been washed, shake it to allow excessive water to 
> drain out. Then tip the keyboard upside down so it is laying on the keys, and 
> let the keyboard dry for seven days.
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 2:12 pm, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim... disconnect the keyboard from the iMac first ;-)
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 12:54 pm, Tim Law > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ve just gone through this interesting exercise with a wired Apple keyboard
>>> 
>>> First, take a picture of the keyboard so you can refer to it when you’re 
>>> replacing the keys. And also so you can proudly reflect on your cleaning 
>>> prowess. 
>>> 
>>> The safest thing is to not wipe the keys just yet, simply flick them out 
>>> one by one. Once the first comes out you’ll figure out the right force and 
>>> angle, but a small finger placed under the edge of an exposed key and 
>>> flicked up to release the clip is the best action I can describe. You may 
>>> need a spodger to get the first one, a plastic stick. 
>>> 
>>> Once all the keys are off, they can be washed in a bowl of cleaning liquid 
>>> and water, rinsed and dried
>>> 
>>> The exposed base can be wiped clean and the various biscuits you’ll deny 
>>> ever eating, must have been the cat, can be cleaned up. 
>>> 
>>> Then it’s a matter of clicking the clean dry keys back in place, using the 
>>> photo as a guide. 
>>> 
>>> I used an overly damp wipe to start with and found excess liquid has seeped 
>>> into the electronic components so the keyboard failed. 
>>> 
>>> This led me to dismantling it entirely and drying the three layers of 
>>> printed circuit that perform the switching function of the keyboard. There 
>>> are little soft plastic cones that give the soft touch we enjoy. They fall 
>>> onto the floor and hide behind chair legs, so some agility may be required 
>>> to rescue them. Rest assured They don’t fall out unless you dismantle the 
>>> electronics. Once resembled twice, I first put the cones in the wrong way, 
>>> my keyboard is clean and functional and has passed the most stringent 
>>> assessment of my wife. 
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 11:46 am, Severin Crisp >> > wrote:
>>> 
 My iMac keyboard is disgracefully dirty and I find it very difficult to 
 keep it clean.  I am meticulous about no cups of coffee or the like within 
 range.  
 Advice appreciated on  1) getting it respectable again   and 2) keeping it 
 that way
 Many thanks
 Severin Crisp
 
 
  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
 Mob  0484 624 741mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
 
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Re: Keyboard

[Robin Belford]

Back in the day it wasn’t uncommon to put them in the dishwasher. The “Day” was 
when the keyboard was the Apple Extended Keyboard II (ADB).
SO, if you’re game here are some basic instructions.

Make sure you've got a spare keyboard. You must wait at least a week (7 days) 
before the keyboard can be used again after it's been washed, therefore unless 
you do not plan on using your computer for a week you'll need a spare.
Do not use any dish soap.
If your dishwasher has multiple settings, make sure it's a rinse only. Do not 
use a heavy wash, pots, and pan setting, or any heated drying settings. Any 
extensive heat will destroy the keyboard.
Wash the keyboard on the top rack only.
Do not put anything else in the dishwasher except the keyboard.
Only try this if your computer keyboard is plastic.
If you want a more extensive clean under the keys remove each of the keys and 
wash just the keyboard.
After the keyboard has been washed, shake it to allow excessive water to drain 
out. Then tip the keyboard upside down so it is laying on the keys, and let the 
keyboard dry for seven days.

> On 10 Jan 2018, at 2:12 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim... disconnect the keyboard from the iMac first ;-)
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 12:54 pm, Tim Law  > wrote:
> 
>> I’ve just gone through this interesting exercise with a wired Apple keyboard
>> 
>> First, take a picture of the keyboard so you can refer to it when you’re 
>> replacing the keys. And also so you can proudly reflect on your cleaning 
>> prowess. 
>> 
>> The safest thing is to not wipe the keys just yet, simply flick them out one 
>> by one. Once the first comes out you’ll figure out the right force and 
>> angle, but a small finger placed under the edge of an exposed key and 
>> flicked up to release the clip is the best action I can describe. You may 
>> need a spodger to get the first one, a plastic stick. 
>> 
>> Once all the keys are off, they can be washed in a bowl of cleaning liquid 
>> and water, rinsed and dried
>> 
>> The exposed base can be wiped clean and the various biscuits you’ll deny 
>> ever eating, must have been the cat, can be cleaned up. 
>> 
>> Then it’s a matter of clicking the clean dry keys back in place, using the 
>> photo as a guide. 
>> 
>> I used an overly damp wipe to start with and found excess liquid has seeped 
>> into the electronic components so the keyboard failed. 
>> 
>> This led me to dismantling it entirely and drying the three layers of 
>> printed circuit that perform the switching function of the keyboard. There 
>> are little soft plastic cones that give the soft touch we enjoy. They fall 
>> onto the floor and hide behind chair legs, so some agility may be required 
>> to rescue them. Rest assured They don’t fall out unless you dismantle the 
>> electronics. Once resembled twice, I first put the cones in the wrong way, 
>> my keyboard is clean and functional and has passed the most stringent 
>> assessment of my wife. 
>> 
>> I hope this helps
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>> 
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 11:46 am, Severin Crisp > > wrote:
>> 
>>> My iMac keyboard is disgracefully dirty and I find it very difficult to 
>>> keep it clean.  I am meticulous about no cups of coffee or the like within 
>>> range.  
>>> Advice appreciated on  1) getting it respectable again   and 2) keeping it 
>>> that way
>>> Many thanks
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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