Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Jewells, no worries.

Ronni does not recommend using software such as Clean up my Mac2 as it can 
cause odd problems. I don’t know if it would cause this problem in particular. 

Wondering if the cheapest and simplest way is to take it to someone (Daniel?)to 
sort out. I would hate to have to keep working on my Mac if it was doing this.

Cheers, Susan

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 4:55 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> I need to digest your email below - it sounds a good idea on having two 
> drives raided together, but in the meantime I took note of the message and it 
> says my "Startup disk is full.   To make more space available on your startup 
> disk, delete some files.”
> Why does this message  not appear when I first start up ?  It usually happens 
> after about an hour or two of working.  The files I normally generate are 
> word or excel, so would not have thought not huge amounts of space are being 
> eaten up.   
> Perhaps I need to do a clean install, which I was trying to hold off to later 
> in the year.  Or maybe transfer some files onto another HD.  I actually 
> thought it was the cache or something else which was eating up the space.   
> 
> I must apologise Susan, I initially said it was memory and not start up disk 
> space.  
> 
> Cheers
> Jewels
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:51 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jewels
>> 
>> As Susan has mentioned, is the error message your’e getting saying “you’re 
>> out of memory” or  “your startup disk is getting low on space”.
>> As both are different things.
>> 
>> 
>> The MacPro has 4 hard drive bays, so you do have the option to “increase” 
>> storage if it needs it. It’s also possible to a) use the SSD for the boot 
>> up/system, but then use a standard Hard Drive for storage or b) create a 
>> “Fusion Drive” (Core Storage drive) to combine both an SSD and a normal Hard 
>> Drive together, to give speed plus storage. (e.g. using an SSD plus say a 
>> 2-3TB drive and make it into one drive which shows as 2.25TB. Or even c) 
>> have two drives raided together in various ways.
>> So plenty of options there.
>> 
>> If however, it’s relating to low memory, then just adding more RAM/memory to 
>> the machine, can also help with more Apps running as well. These days you 
>> want to have at least 8GB RAM minimum I find, as the OS (Operating System) 
>> wants to use more also. So having at least 8GB or 16GB is preferable.
>> 
>> You should be able to look under About this Mac in the Apple menu to see how 
>> much RAM is there.
>> You can also see what is being used (and when and where) by going into 
>> Applications - Utilities and opening Activity Monitor. Click on Memory and 
>> have it to the side as you’re doing things. You’ll then see Apps are using a 
>> lot and if it’s going over what it has built in.
>> 
>> Without going into a lot of details, the  new system will “never” (in 
>> theory) run out of memory, as it borrows it from the HDD (or SSD), to keep 
>> the computer going,…but this does tend to slow things down. So rather then 
>> doing things that way, it’s always better to have more built in memory then 
>> using it that way and running out of memory.
>> 
>> Hope that all helps.
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone XS 
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> 
>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of 
>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of 
>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any 
>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that 
>> permission by the author be requested. 
>> 
>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:30 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels, 256gb should be fine to run your applications if you don’t store 
>>> a lot of music and photos on the HD. It’s puzzling that you would be having 
>>> problems with the HD filling up.
>>> 
>>> I have a MacBook with 128gb that doesn’t have any problems with running out 
>>> of memory even using Office 365, photoshop and Lightroom. All of my photos 
>>> and documents are kept on an external drive, except maybe for a few files I 
>>> may be working on. That means my iPhoto library and iTunes library are not 
>>> on the internal HD.
>>> 
>>> The mysterious way your HD fills up is NOT normal, providing that like me 
>>> you don’t keep large iPhoto and iTunes libraries on the main HD. Even so, a 
>>> 246GB HD is quite a lot of space.
>>> 
>>> Closing down applications does not increase HD space. You are speaking 
>>> about memory - are you talking about your RAM or HD?
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Susan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:10 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
 
 Hi Susan
 
 Apologies, I 

Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Daniel,

You may have a valid point there.  There are a few podcasts I download 
regularly.  I do not use icloud though.  Rarely use dropbox or photo syncing.  
I’ll download whatsize and see what I come up with. 

I need to have a good look at this when I’ve finished up with my work a little 
later. 

Thank you for all your suggestions - much appreciated.

Cheers
Jewels

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels
> 
> You could also have something like the following, which I have seen before 
> (thought a bit harder to “locate” without seeing the machine.
> - A corrupt log file. (an invisible hidden system file). It fills up and 
> should delete itself when not needed. But I’ve seen them fill up. Then a 
> restart clears some, until it starts filling the log up again and using 
> space. (sometimes in GBs of data).
> - a program that downloads updates / episodes /podcasts etc. Have seen 
> various ones of these, that once it deletes some, it goes and downloads new 
> ones. Therefor constantly always filling up space and removing it.
> - iCloud syncing of various files.
> - Photo syncing of various sizes
> - Dropbox large files.
> 
> Just a few off the top of my head. There are quite a few others that can also 
> affect it.
> 
> You could try Whatsize, as it sometimes help locate files that can be causing 
> issues.
> https://whatsizemac.com
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone XS 
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 4:28 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Susan,
>> 
>> Like you, I keep my larger files, such as movies, photos etc on externals - 
>> even loaded my itunes on a separate hard drive which is still internal (but 
>> I have those spare drive spaces in my MacPro)  I just have my work files on 
>> the SSD and if they get too big, I then transfer them onto an external HD.  
>> Thing is it never used to happen so often as it does now.  I can do a 
>> restart and get 5gb spare back on the hard drive, whereas before doing the 
>> restart I would have maybe 200mb.  I would clear the cache before 
>> restarting, but it only gives me back say  300mb.  One day I just happened 
>> to glance at the capacity of the HD (showing on the bottom of the finder 
>> display) and I watched it going down and yet I was not using my computer at 
>> all.   Maybe I have a haunted MacPro !!
>> 
>> I just put up with it until I thought about asking WAMUG today.Yes I am 
>> speaking of HD memory and not RAM.  I have 16gb of RAM and that seems to 
>> work ok for me.
>> 
>> I thought there maybe something wrong with the SSD, but I have always found 
>> HDs either work or fail.  It did not seem normal to me either.  Guess I’ll 
>> put up with it until towards the end of the year when hopefully Apple will 
>> offer a great Mac Pro.  Out of interest, do you think it wise to rebuild my 
>> Mac ?  I’m guessing it will work with the new OSes for the next few years.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:30 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels, 256gb should be fine to run your applications if you don’t store 
>>> a lot of music and photos on the HD. It’s puzzling that you would be having 
>>> problems with the HD filling up.
>>> 
>>> I have a MacBook with 128gb that doesn’t have any problems with running out 
>>> of memory even using Office 365, photoshop and Lightroom. All of my photos 
>>> and documents are kept on an external drive, except maybe for a few files I 
>>> may be working on. That means my iPhoto library and iTunes library are not 
>>> on the internal HD.
>>> 
>>> The mysterious way your HD fills up is NOT normal, providing that like me 
>>> you don’t keep large iPhoto and iTunes libraries on the main HD. Even so, a 
>>> 246GB HD is quite a lot of space.
>>> 
>>> Closing down applications does not increase HD space. You are speaking 
>>> about memory - are you talking about your RAM or HD?
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Susan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:10 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
 
 Hi Susan
 
 Apologies, I should have said - it’s only a 256 gb - I have got a 1TB SSD 
 which I’ve not put in as yet, as still trying to decide on whether to 
 rebuild the MacPro - waiting for Apple to give specs on their new MacPro 
 later on in the year.  However, I suspect one will be
 limited in upgrading the new model as like the previous recent models.  I 
 use various applications, but when I get low, I close the apps I’m not 
 using, but still doesn’t make a difference. 
 
 This didn’t happen previously, it is only really in the last year or so.  
 
 Cheers
 Jewels
 
> On 28 Feb 2019, at 2:06 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie, it would help to know the size of your HD and how much of it 
> you 

Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Daniel,

I need to digest your email below - it sounds a good idea on having two drives 
raided together, but in the meantime I took note of the message and it says my 
"Startup disk is full.   To make more space available on your startup disk, 
delete some files.”
Why does this message  not appear when I first start up ?  It usually happens 
after about an hour or two of working.  The files I normally generate are word 
or excel, so would not have thought not huge amounts of space are being eaten 
up.   
Perhaps I need to do a clean install, which I was trying to hold off to later 
in the year.  Or maybe transfer some files onto another HD.  I actually thought 
it was the cache or something else which was eating up the space.   

I must apologise Susan, I initially said it was memory and not start up disk 
space.  

Cheers
Jewels

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:51 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels
> 
> As Susan has mentioned, is the error message your’e getting saying “you’re 
> out of memory” or  “your startup disk is getting low on space”.
> As both are different things.
> 
> 
> The MacPro has 4 hard drive bays, so you do have the option to “increase” 
> storage if it needs it. It’s also possible to a) use the SSD for the boot 
> up/system, but then use a standard Hard Drive for storage or b) create a 
> “Fusion Drive” (Core Storage drive) to combine both an SSD and a normal Hard 
> Drive together, to give speed plus storage. (e.g. using an SSD plus say a 
> 2-3TB drive and make it into one drive which shows as 2.25TB. Or even c) have 
> two drives raided together in various ways.
> So plenty of options there.
> 
> If however, it’s relating to low memory, then just adding more RAM/memory to 
> the machine, can also help with more Apps running as well. These days you 
> want to have at least 8GB RAM minimum I find, as the OS (Operating System) 
> wants to use more also. So having at least 8GB or 16GB is preferable.
> 
> You should be able to look under About this Mac in the Apple menu to see how 
> much RAM is there.
> You can also see what is being used (and when and where) by going into 
> Applications - Utilities and opening Activity Monitor. Click on Memory and 
> have it to the side as you’re doing things. You’ll then see Apps are using a 
> lot and if it’s going over what it has built in.
> 
> Without going into a lot of details, the  new system will “never” (in theory) 
> run out of memory, as it borrows it from the HDD (or SSD), to keep the 
> computer going,…but this does tend to slow things down. So rather then doing 
> things that way, it’s always better to have more built in memory then using 
> it that way and running out of memory.
> 
> Hope that all helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone XS 
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:30 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jewels, 256gb should be fine to run your applications if you don’t store 
>> a lot of music and photos on the HD. It’s puzzling that you would be having 
>> problems with the HD filling up.
>> 
>> I have a MacBook with 128gb that doesn’t have any problems with running out 
>> of memory even using Office 365, photoshop and Lightroom. All of my photos 
>> and documents are kept on an external drive, except maybe for a few files I 
>> may be working on. That means my iPhoto library and iTunes library are not 
>> on the internal HD.
>> 
>> The mysterious way your HD fills up is NOT normal, providing that like me 
>> you don’t keep large iPhoto and iTunes libraries on the main HD. Even so, a 
>> 246GB HD is quite a lot of space.
>> 
>> Closing down applications does not increase HD space. You are speaking about 
>> memory - are you talking about your RAM or HD?
>> 
>> Cheers, Susan.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:10 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Susan
>>> 
>>> Apologies, I should have said - it’s only a 256 gb - I have got a 1TB SSD 
>>> which I’ve not put in as yet, as still trying to decide on whether to 
>>> rebuild the MacPro - waiting for Apple to give specs on their new MacPro 
>>> later on in the year.  However, I suspect one will be
>>> limited in upgrading the new model as like the previous recent models.  I 
>>> use various applications, but when I get low, I close the apps I’m not 
>>> using, but still doesn’t make a difference. 
>>> 
>>> This didn’t happen previously, it is only really in the last year or so.  
>>> 

Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Jewels

You could also have something like the following, which I have seen before 
(thought a bit harder to “locate” without seeing the machine.
- A corrupt log file. (an invisible hidden system file). It fills up and should 
delete itself when not needed. But I’ve seen them fill up. Then a restart 
clears some, until it starts filling the log up again and using space. 
(sometimes in GBs of data).
- a program that downloads updates / episodes /podcasts etc. Have seen various 
ones of these, that once it deletes some, it goes and downloads new ones. 
Therefor constantly always filling up space and removing it.
- iCloud syncing of various files.
- Photo syncing of various sizes
- Dropbox large files.

Just a few off the top of my head. There are quite a few others that can also 
affect it.

You could try Whatsize, as it sometimes help locate files that can be causing 
issues.
https://whatsizemac.com

Hope that helps.
Kind regards
Daniel

 Sent from my iPhone XS 

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
Web:   


**For everything Apple**


> On 28 Feb 2019, at 4:28 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Susan,
> 
> Like you, I keep my larger files, such as movies, photos etc on externals - 
> even loaded my itunes on a separate hard drive which is still internal (but I 
> have those spare drive spaces in my MacPro)  I just have my work files on the 
> SSD and if they get too big, I then transfer them onto an external HD.  Thing 
> is it never used to happen so often as it does now.  I can do a restart and 
> get 5gb spare back on the hard drive, whereas before doing the restart I 
> would have maybe 200mb.  I would clear the cache before restarting, but it 
> only gives me back say  300mb.  One day I just happened to glance at the 
> capacity of the HD (showing on the bottom of the finder display) and I 
> watched it going down and yet I was not using my computer at all.   Maybe I 
> have a haunted MacPro !!
> 
> I just put up with it until I thought about asking WAMUG today.Yes I am 
> speaking of HD memory and not RAM.  I have 16gb of RAM and that seems to work 
> ok for me.
> 
> I thought there maybe something wrong with the SSD, but I have always found 
> HDs either work or fail.  It did not seem normal to me either.  Guess I’ll 
> put up with it until towards the end of the year when hopefully Apple will 
> offer a great Mac Pro.  Out of interest, do you think it wise to rebuild my 
> Mac ?  I’m guessing it will work with the new OSes for the next few years.
> 
> Cheers
> Jewels
> 
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:30 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jewels, 256gb should be fine to run your applications if you don’t store 
>> a lot of music and photos on the HD. It’s puzzling that you would be having 
>> problems with the HD filling up.
>> 
>> I have a MacBook with 128gb that doesn’t have any problems with running out 
>> of memory even using Office 365, photoshop and Lightroom. All of my photos 
>> and documents are kept on an external drive, except maybe for a few files I 
>> may be working on. That means my iPhoto library and iTunes library are not 
>> on the internal HD.
>> 
>> The mysterious way your HD fills up is NOT normal, providing that like me 
>> you don’t keep large iPhoto and iTunes libraries on the main HD. Even so, a 
>> 246GB HD is quite a lot of space.
>> 
>> Closing down applications does not increase HD space. You are speaking about 
>> memory - are you talking about your RAM or HD?
>> 
>> Cheers, Susan.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:10 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Susan
>>> 
>>> Apologies, I should have said - it’s only a 256 gb - I have got a 1TB SSD 
>>> which I’ve not put in as yet, as still trying to decide on whether to 
>>> rebuild the MacPro - waiting for Apple to give specs on their new MacPro 
>>> later on in the year.  However, I suspect one will be
>>> limited in upgrading the new model as like the previous recent models.  I 
>>> use various applications, but when I get low, I close the apps I’m not 
>>> using, but still doesn’t make a difference. 
>>> 
>>> This didn’t happen previously, it is only really in the last year or so.  
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jewels
>>> 
 On 28 Feb 2019, at 2:06 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
 
 Hi Julie, it would help to know the size of your HD and how much of it you 
 are using for your applications and documents. Click on your HD icon and 
 go to ‘get info’ which will give you that information. Then post it here 
 so that people can offer practical solutions.
 
 At least a tenth of your HD space needs to be free to be able to run your 
 applications. You can keep stuff such as your photos and documents on an 
 external HD to free up space on your main HD.
 
 Cheers, Susan.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On 28 Feb 2019, at 1:49 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 

Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Susan,

Like you, I keep my larger files, such as movies, photos etc on externals - 
even loaded my itunes on a separate hard drive which is still internal (but I 
have those spare drive spaces in my MacPro)  I just have my work files on the 
SSD and if they get too big, I then transfer them onto an external HD.  Thing 
is it never used to happen so often as it does now.  I can do a restart and get 
5gb spare back on the hard drive, whereas before doing the restart I would have 
maybe 200mb.  I would clear the cache before restarting, but it only gives me 
back say  300mb.  One day I just happened to glance at the capacity of the HD 
(showing on the bottom of the finder display) and I watched it going down and 
yet I was not using my computer at all.   Maybe I have a haunted MacPro !!

I just put up with it until I thought about asking WAMUG today.Yes I am 
speaking of HD memory and not RAM.  I have 16gb of RAM and that seems to work 
ok for me.

I thought there maybe something wrong with the SSD, but I have always found HDs 
either work or fail.  It did not seem normal to me either.  Guess I’ll put up 
with it until towards the end of the year when hopefully Apple will offer a 
great Mac Pro.  Out of interest, do you think it wise to rebuild my Mac ?  I’m 
guessing it will work with the new OSes for the next few years.

Cheers
Jewels


> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:30 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels, 256gb should be fine to run your applications if you don’t store a 
> lot of music and photos on the HD. It’s puzzling that you would be having 
> problems with the HD filling up.
> 
> I have a MacBook with 128gb that doesn’t have any problems with running out 
> of memory even using Office 365, photoshop and Lightroom. All of my photos 
> and documents are kept on an external drive, except maybe for a few files I 
> may be working on. That means my iPhoto library and iTunes library are not on 
> the internal HD.
> 
> The mysterious way your HD fills up is NOT normal, providing that like me you 
> don’t keep large iPhoto and iTunes libraries on the main HD. Even so, a 246GB 
> HD is quite a lot of space.
> 
> Closing down applications does not increase HD space. You are speaking about 
> memory - are you talking about your RAM or HD?
> 
> Cheers, Susan.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 3:10 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Susan
>> 
>> Apologies, I should have said - it’s only a 256 gb - I have got a 1TB SSD 
>> which I’ve not put in as yet, as still trying to decide on whether to 
>> rebuild the MacPro - waiting for Apple to give specs on their new MacPro 
>> later on in the year.  However, I suspect one will be
>> limited in upgrading the new model as like the previous recent models.  I 
>> use various applications, but when I get low, I close the apps I’m not 
>> using, but still doesn’t make a difference. 
>> 
>> This didn’t happen previously, it is only really in the last year or so.  
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 2:06 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Julie, it would help to know the size of your HD and how much of it you 
>>> are using for your applications and documents. Click on your HD icon and go 
>>> to ‘get info’ which will give you that information. Then post it here so 
>>> that people can offer practical solutions.
>>> 
>>> At least a tenth of your HD space needs to be free to be able to run your 
>>> applications. You can keep stuff such as your photos and documents on an 
>>> external HD to free up space on your main HD.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Susan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 28 Feb 2019, at 1:49 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Wondering if anyone has any ideas.  I have a Mac Pro 2012 which has a SSD. 
 (El Capitan)
 
 Over the last year, I keep getting a box appear saying I’m almost out of 
 memory.  I can release some by using Clean My Mac2 but it is not
 until I do a restart will I get back all the memory available (can be 
 around 4 gb)  I have watched the Mac while doing nothing and see the
 available HD space diminish.
 
 It can be a bit of a pain having to do a restart in the middle of doing 
 something just to regain the HD space. 
 
 Thanks
 
 Jewels
 
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Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Brian (and others).

Another one I find a lot, that can also take up space as well (which a lot of 
people don’t realise) is various old iPhone/iPad backups. These can take many 
GBs of space as well.
You can see what backups are still being stored as follows.

Open iTunes. From the iTunes menu go to Preferences. 
Then go to Devices.
In that window it will show all backups for all devices that are used. It will 
also show the last date it was done as well.
When you roll over the name of the device on the left side of the window, it 
will show model of device (e.g. iPhone 4, iPhone 4, iPad 3 etc).
If there are old ones you’re happy to no longer have there, you can click onto 
the old one and then down the bottom right of that window click “Delete Backup”.
This will then remove it from your computer.
(These backups are actually stored in the Home Library - Application support), 
but it saves digging through buried “invisible” folders to remove them manually.

This sometimes is a good way to free up a lot of space.
Kind regards
Daniel

 Sent from my iPhone XS 

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
Web:   


**For everything Apple**

NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as 
such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any 
information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept 
liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to 
be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be 
requested. 

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 4:04 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
> 
> Same issue here, check if your emails are being deleted. They add up over the 
> years and also there attachments too. 
> How far back do they go and do you really need them?
> I had many, many thousands of them. 
> 
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> OS12.1.4 ‍☕️
> 
> On 28 Feb 2019, at 14:06, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julie, it would help to know the size of your HD and how much of it you 
> are using for your applications and documents. Click on your HD icon and go 
> to ‘get info’ which will give you that information. Then post it here so that 
> people can offer practical solutions.
> 
> At least a tenth of your HD space needs to be free to be able to run your 
> applications. You can keep stuff such as your photos and documents on an 
> external HD to free up space on your main HD.
> 
> Cheers, Susan.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 1:49 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Wondering if anyone has any ideas.  I have a Mac Pro 2012 which has a SSD. 
>> (El Capitan)
>> 
>> Over the last year, I keep getting a box appear saying I’m almost out of 
>> memory.  I can release some by using Clean My Mac2 but it is not
>> until I do a restart will I get back all the memory available (can be around 
>> 4 gb)  I have watched the Mac while doing nothing and see the
>> available HD space diminish.
>> 
>> It can be a bit of a pain having to do a restart in the middle of doing 
>> something just to regain the HD space. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
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>> Guidelines - 
>> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
>> 
> 
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Re: MEMORY ON HD

[Brian RISBEY]

Same issue here, check if your emails are being deleted. They add up over the 
years and also there attachments too. 
How far back do they go and do you really need them?
I had many, many thousands of them. 


Brian Risbey 
OS12.1.4 ‍☕️

On 28 Feb 2019, at 14:06, Susan Hastings  wrote:

Hi Julie, it would help to know the size of your HD and how much of it you are 
using for your applications and documents. Click on your HD icon and go to ‘get 
info’ which will give you that information. Then post it here so that people 
can offer practical solutions.

At least a tenth of your HD space needs to be free to be able to run your 
applications. You can keep stuff such as your photos and documents on an 
external HD to free up space on your main HD.

Cheers, Susan.



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> On 28 Feb 2019, at 1:49 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Wondering if anyone has any ideas.  I have a Mac Pro 2012 which has a SSD. 
> (El Capitan)
> 
> Over the last year, I keep getting a box appear saying I’m almost out of 
> memory.  I can release some by using Clean My Mac2 but it is not
> until I do a restart will I get back all the memory available (can be around 
> 4 gb)  I have watched the Mac while doing nothing and see the
> available HD space diminish.
> 
> It can be a bit of a pain having to do a restart in the middle of doing 
> something just to regain the HD space. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jewels
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