Re: Interesting read regarding AV Software

[Marcus Harris]

Thanks for the response. I recall some time ago people saying norton slowed 
down the OS and so I’ll try Avast
Cheers
Marcus 
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> On 7 Jun 2020, at 8:52 am, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Agreed Ronni 100%.
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 7 Jun 2020, at 8:39 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marcus,
>> 
>> I most certainly agree with Alex, I read all a...@macmyths.com and it 
>> doesn’t change my mind. I’ve never had any Malware on my computers and I 
>> would not recommend installing Norton AV on any Mac computer.
>> 
>> It is not required and will most likely slow your computer to a crawl.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
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>> 
>> 
 On 6 Jun 2020, at 11:53 pm, Alex  wrote:
 
>>> Hi Marcus & All,
>>> 
>>> I am not an expert but am a bit dubious about Al & his claims especially 
>>> when he promotes Norton.  Although my experience with Norton was on a 
>>> client’s Windows machine, I found it virtually impossible to delete it from 
>>> their computer & it made their computer painfully sluggish to use.  Could 
>>> be different on the Mac environment?  Others may be able to comment better.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,  Alex
>>> 
 On 6 Jun 2020, at 9:57 pm, Marcus Harris  wrote:
 
 Yes that is interesting, but do you Personally choose to instal AV 
 software. 
 I always update my Apple systems ASAP and expect to then be malware 
 secure. Should I buy Norton as Al suggests?
 Regards
 Marcus Harris
 Mobile +61417965618
 
  
 
>> On 6 Jun 2020, at 1:48 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
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> https://macmyths.com/best-malware-detection-for-mac/
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
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Re: 2011 MP with 2 monitors

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Daniel, thanks for those links, I'll review those and see where too
next. My wifes MBP is a 13" MBP 2011 so probably limited in the
graphics space per your comments.  

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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 Yes, as Neil mentioned - I’m pretty sure you can’t run a display
off a Firewire port - different “technologies”. 
 You could try something like this - 
 https://www.amazon.com.au/LINDY-Mini-DisplayPort-DVI-D-MST/dp/B01F0VYI5G
 Never tried it myself,….but one thing to bear in mind is that same
only “split” the display,..so you’re not really getting “2
monitors”, you’re getting 1 display spread over 2 monitors.
 The other issue could also be if the one Graphics card can handle it
all as well. So there could be issues there.
 (This can differ depending if it’s a MBPro 13” or a 15” as I
didn’t see it mentioned there.) - the MBPro 15” has a dedicated
graphics card, so slightly more powerful to run external monitors then
the 13” which uses less memory to run it.

 Or a DVI input splitter - 
 
https://www.auselectronicsdirect.com.au/2-port-dvi-d-dual-link-video-splitter?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9625j-zv6QIVliQrCh2hUAodEAQYFCABEgJT3vD_BwE

 Other options could be a dock of some sort also. One from Thunderbolt
to say HDMI for one monitor and DVI for the other monitor.
 Or a type of splitter like the above.

 Hope something there helps.
 Kind regards
 Daniel

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 > On 7 Jun 2020, at 8:33 pm, Pete  wrote:
 > 
 > Thanks for that feedback Neil. Much appreciated.
 > 
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > Pete
 > 
 >> On 7 Jun 2020, at 7:51 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi Pete, 
 >> 
 >> I don't think you can drive a display from the firewire port -
I've never seen a cable or adaptor that would achieve this.
 >> 
 >> This guy used a usb video adaptor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=vIVZI1cFiAw&feature=emb_logo
to drive 2 monitors from a 2011 Macbook Pro (that was back in 2011).
 >> 
 >> His monitor was, I think, DVI but the adaptor also handles HDMI -
it's not cheap though
https://www.amazon.com.au/Diamond-Multimedia-BVU195-2048x1152-1920x1080/dp/B002GHBW4S

 >> OWC have a similar thing
https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU3DVIA/ 
 >> 
 >> This article includes other ways involving thunderbolt
daisy-chaining
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/62537/can-i-have-multiple-monitors-on-my-macbook-pro-early-2011
but since that involves either a thunderbolt display or thunderbolt
docks, I don't know if it would be any cheaper.
 >> 
 >> 
 >> HTH
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Cheers
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Neil
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> On 07/06/20, 18:12, "Peter Crisp"  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi there, my Wife is to soon be working from home. She has a 2011
MacBook Pro with SSD and RAM upgrade so it’s reasonably capable. She
wants to be able to use two 24” monitors we have in the office and a
bit of a struggle to see how this can be done. 
 >> 
 >> The MBP has a FireWire, Thunderbolt and 2 USB ports. I have a
Thunderbolt to HDMI cable so that gives one monitor but varying
success with finding Firewire to HDMI (or VGA) to feed the second
monitor. The lads at JB HIFI didn’t know what Firewire even was!!!
They probably hadn’t been born when Firewire was common place. 
 >> 
 >> Does anyone have any tips on using the Firewire port for display
duties?
 >> 
 >> Regards
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Pete
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Re: 2011 MP with 2 monitors

[Daniel Kerr]

Yes, as Neil mentioned - I’m pretty sure you can’t run a display off a Firewire 
port - different “technologies”. 
You could try something like this - 
https://www.amazon.com.au/LINDY-Mini-DisplayPort-DVI-D-MST/dp/B01F0VYI5G
Never tried it myself,….but one thing to bear in mind is that same only “split” 
the display,..so you’re not really getting “2 monitors”, you’re getting 1 
display spread over 2 monitors.
The other issue could also be if the one Graphics card can handle it all as 
well. So there could be issues there.
(This can differ depending if it’s a MBPro 13” or a 15” as I didn’t see it 
mentioned there.) - the MBPro 15” has a dedicated graphics card, so slightly 
more powerful to run external monitors then the 13” which uses less memory to 
run it.

Or a DVI input splitter - 
https://www.auselectronicsdirect.com.au/2-port-dvi-d-dual-link-video-splitter?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9625j-zv6QIVliQrCh2hUAodEAQYFCABEgJT3vD_BwE

Other options could be a dock of some sort also. One from Thunderbolt to say 
HDMI for one monitor and DVI for the other monitor.
Or a type of splitter like the above.

Hope something there helps.
Kind regards
Daniel

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> On 7 Jun 2020, at 8:33 pm, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that feedback Neil. Much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 7 Jun 2020, at 7:51 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Pete, 
>> 
>> I don't think you can drive a display from the firewire port - I've never 
>> seen a cable or adaptor that would achieve this.
>> 
>> This guy used a usb video adaptor 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=vIVZI1cFiAw&feature=emb_logo
>>  to drive 2 monitors from a 2011 Macbook Pro (that was back in 2011).
>> 
>> His monitor was, I think, DVI but the adaptor also handles HDMI - it's not 
>> cheap though 
>> https://www.amazon.com.au/Diamond-Multimedia-BVU195-2048x1152-1920x1080/dp/B002GHBW4S
>>  
>> OWC have a similar thing 
>> https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU3DVIA/ 
>> 
>> This article includes other ways involving thunderbolt daisy-chaining 
>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/62537/can-i-have-multiple-monitors-on-my-macbook-pro-early-2011
>>  but since that involves either a thunderbolt display or thunderbolt docks, 
>> I don't know if it would be any cheaper.
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/06/20, 18:12, "Peter Crisp" 
>> > petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>   Hi there, my Wife is to soon be working from home. She has a 2011 MacBook 
>> Pro with SSD and RAM upgrade so it’s reasonably capable. She wants to be 
>> able to use two 24” monitors we have in the office and a bit of a struggle 
>> to see how this can be done. 
>> 
>>   The MBP has a FireWire, Thunderbolt and 2 USB ports. I have a Thunderbolt 
>> to HDMI cable so that gives one monitor but varying success with finding 
>> Firewire to HDMI (or VGA) to feed the second monitor. The lads at JB HIFI 
>> didn’t know what Firewire even was!!! They probably hadn’t been born when 
>> Firewire was common place. 
>> 
>>   Does anyone have any tips on using the Firewire port for display duties?
>> 
>>   Regards
>> 
>> 
>>   Pete
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Re: Getting iMac to Sleep

[Adam Lippiatt]

Hi Ronni

I do have Time Machine backing it up hourly. But even when the time machine 
disk is ejected (and there has been a restart), still no sleep.

Begs the question though, is there anything other than 1 hourly time machine 
backup?  I would be happy to extend the time period.

Thank you.

Adam



> On 7 Jun 2020, at 9:02 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Adam,
> 
> Have you got Time Machine backing up hourly?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
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> 
> 
>> On 6 Jun 2020, at 9:39 pm, Adam Lippiatt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I am having trouble getting my 27 inch late 2013 iMac (running 10.15.5, but 
>> was happening 10.15.4) to go to sleep.
>> 
>> I have tried the usual things like ejecting external drives, unplugging them 
>> and plugging them back in.
>> 
>> Zapping the PRAM.
>> 
>> I had this problem a year or two ago and the ejecting and reconnecting the 
>> drives did the trick but not this time.
>> 
>> Apple says something else to try is to “update the firmware” on the external 
>> drive.  I am not sure I have ever had any luck finding firmware for drives.  
>> 
>> I have looked at the processes preventing sleep and there are a number of 
>> them.  This list goes up and down but never seems to get to zero.
>> 
>> useractivityd
>> sharingd
>> apfsd
>> hidd
>> cupsd
>> backupd-helper
>> backupd4
>> mds_stores
>> 
>> Does anyone have any thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _
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>> adam.lippi...@me.com
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Re: 2011 MP with 2 monitors

[Pete]

Thanks for that feedback Neil. Much appreciated.


Regards

Pete

> On 7 Jun 2020, at 7:51 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete, 
> 
> I don't think you can drive a display from the firewire port - I've never 
> seen a cable or adaptor that would achieve this.
> 
> This guy used a usb video adaptor 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=vIVZI1cFiAw&feature=emb_logo 
> to drive 2 monitors from a 2011 Macbook Pro (that was back in 2011).
> 
> His monitor was, I think, DVI but the adaptor also handles HDMI - it's not 
> cheap though 
> https://www.amazon.com.au/Diamond-Multimedia-BVU195-2048x1152-1920x1080/dp/B002GHBW4S
>  
> OWC have a similar thing https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU3DVIA/ 
> 
> This article includes other ways involving thunderbolt daisy-chaining 
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/62537/can-i-have-multiple-monitors-on-my-macbook-pro-early-2011
>  but since that involves either a thunderbolt display or thunderbolt docks, I 
> don't know if it would be any cheaper.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/06/20, 18:12, "Peter Crisp" 
>  petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
>Hi there, my Wife is to soon be working from home. She has a 2011 MacBook 
> Pro with SSD and RAM upgrade so it’s reasonably capable. She wants to be able 
> to use two 24” monitors we have in the office and a bit of a struggle to see 
> how this can be done. 
> 
>The MBP has a FireWire, Thunderbolt and 2 USB ports. I have a Thunderbolt 
> to HDMI cable so that gives one monitor but varying success with finding 
> Firewire to HDMI (or VGA) to feed the second monitor. The lads at JB HIFI 
> didn’t know what Firewire even was!!! They probably hadn’t been born when 
> Firewire was common place. 
> 
>Does anyone have any tips on using the Firewire port for display duties?
> 
>Regards
> 
> 
>Pete
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Re: 2011 MP with 2 monitors

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Pete, 

I don't think you can drive a display from the firewire port - I've never seen 
a cable or adaptor that would achieve this.

This guy used a usb video adaptor 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=vIVZI1cFiAw&feature=emb_logo 
to drive 2 monitors from a 2011 Macbook Pro (that was back in 2011).

His monitor was, I think, DVI but the adaptor also handles HDMI - it's not 
cheap though 
https://www.amazon.com.au/Diamond-Multimedia-BVU195-2048x1152-1920x1080/dp/B002GHBW4S
 
OWC have a similar thing https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU3DVIA/ 

This article includes other ways involving thunderbolt daisy-chaining 
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/62537/can-i-have-multiple-monitors-on-my-macbook-pro-early-2011
 but since that involves either a thunderbolt display or thunderbolt docks, I 
don't know if it would be any cheaper.


HTH


Cheers



Neil






On 07/06/20, 18:12, "Peter Crisp" 
 wrote:

Hi there, my Wife is to soon be working from home. She has a 2011 MacBook 
Pro with SSD and RAM upgrade so it’s reasonably capable. She wants to be able 
to use two 24” monitors we have in the office and a bit of a struggle to see 
how this can be done. 

The MBP has a FireWire, Thunderbolt and 2 USB ports. I have a Thunderbolt 
to HDMI cable so that gives one monitor but varying success with finding 
Firewire to HDMI (or VGA) to feed the second monitor. The lads at JB HIFI 
didn’t know what Firewire even was!!! They probably hadn’t been born when 
Firewire was common place. 

Does anyone have any tips on using the Firewire port for display duties?

Regards


Pete
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2011 MP with 2 monitors

[Peter Crisp]

Hi there, my Wife is to soon be working from home. She has a 2011 MacBook Pro 
with SSD and RAM upgrade so it’s reasonably capable. She wants to be able to 
use two 24” monitors we have in the office and a bit of a struggle to see how 
this can be done. 

The MBP has a FireWire, Thunderbolt and 2 USB ports. I have a Thunderbolt to 
HDMI cable so that gives one monitor but varying success with finding Firewire 
to HDMI (or VGA) to feed the second monitor. The lads at JB HIFI didn’t know 
what Firewire even was!!! They probably hadn’t been born when Firewire was 
common place. 

Does anyone have any tips on using the Firewire port for display duties?

Regards


Pete
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