Re: Startup Apps ?

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Alan, 

Many thanks for that suggestion. I am getting this application and will follow 
your instructions by removing the lot and introducing one at a time and see 
which one is creating the trouble. 

Great idea and my thanks. Hopefully Stephen will go through the test also. 

All the best,

Philippe C. 

On 26 Oct 2020, at 2:49 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:

Hi Philippe and Stephen,

My solution to slow startups was to install the app "Delay Start”.  (Free from 
the App Store.)

This app is the only one I have in the user Login Items.  All other apps I want 
to open automatically are listed in Delay Start.  From memory I think 10 apps 
can be listed in Delay Start.

My setting is to open Delay Start after 2 seconds.  This allows time for all 
the “built in” Apple tests and apps to fire up without confusing extras that 
may need an apple app to be working first.

Perhaps you can “prove” which startup items are causing the problem by 
selective deletion from the login list.  Or just remove the lot and see if you 
get an improvement.  Take a screenshot of your startup app list first!

Cheers,
Alan


> On 26 Oct 2020, at 10:34 am, Philippe Chaperon  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen, 
> 
> On the matter of slow start-ups, I have noticed how slow my two iMacs, the 
> older one running High Sierra v 10.13.6 and the other Catalina v 10.15.7, are 
> to start when I was given a 6 year old Windows laptop running the latest 
> Windows version which starts within a minute or less!
> 
> Maybe one of our experts Ronni, Daniel etc could explain why our beloved Macs 
> are taking so long to start. My older Mac has possibly got too many utilities 
> loading at start-up, e.g. StatPlus, Boinc Manager, 1 Password which could 
> explain the slowness? But Mail has also been extremely slow to start up, 
> maybe SpamSieve? Or possibly due to security protection the OS has to do more 
> checking these days?
> 
> The mystery remains for me. 
> 
> have a safe week everyone, 
> 
> Philippe C. dit la Grenouille ...
> 
> On 26 Oct 2020, at 9:22 am, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni & Phillipe.
> I have now removed it from my startup folder.
> 
> However my iMac is still slower starting up.
> Ho Hum … I just need to be more patient I guess !
> 
>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 5:46 am, Ronni Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>> Speech Synthesis Server is the process that allows the time to be heard on 
>> the hour, and allows voice input. If you do not need any of these things, go 
>> to System Preferences>Accounts>YOUR ACCOUNT>Login Items and remove it.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Oct 2020, at 4:56 pm, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks
>>> I wondered why my iMac startup slowed down recently.
>>> 
>>> So I checked in System Preferences/Users & Groups/Login Items.
>>> There is an App that I don’t recognise in there called 
>>> “SpeechSynthesisServer”
>>> 
>>> Does any know what that is and does it need to be in my Startup Apps ?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Startup Apps ?

[Alan Smith]

Hi Stephen,

Nothing like a slow Mac to get into analytical mode - - -.

Your iMac has good specs, so there may be some condition (covid 19?!) affecting 
it.  Personally I would not have Dropbox at all; and I see no reason to have 
Mail as a Login item.

I run my iMac with minimum active windows and just launch an app as required 
from the dock.  And quit when finished. I may just ‘close’ Excel instead of 
quitting as it is relatively slow to launch.

A quickie you probably know - keep a clean desktop. Sweep files into a single 
desktop folder until you get time to put put them in their permanent Documents 
folder.  If you are lazy like me, name the desktop folders with a date.  When 
you see a folder named “To Be Sorted - June 2019” you know it is really is time 
to clean it up.

Cheers,
Alan


> On 26 Oct 2020, at 4:49 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Alan.
> The only two other Apps in my Startup are Mail & Dropbox.
> I am wondering if Dropbox really needs to be the Startup Folder ?
> 
> I have a 2017 iMac , Retina 4K, 21.5 inch
> Processor i7 3.6 GHz Quad Core
> 16 GB RAM
> 500 GB SSD
> 
> It is a very fast Mac and usually gets to login in 25 seconds.
> But in the last week that time has tripled.
> 
> I might try the starting in Verbose Mode trick (hold down V) to see what it 
> is doing at startup.
> 
>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 2:53 pm, Philippe Chaperon > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alan, 
>> 
>> Many thanks for that suggestion. I am getting this application and will 
>> follow your instructions by removing the lot and introducing one at a time 
>> and see which one is creating the trouble. 
>> 
>> Great idea and my thanks. Hopefully Stephen will go through the test also. 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Philippe C. 
>> 
>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 2:49 pm, Alan Smith > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Philippe and Stephen,
>> 
>> My solution to slow startups was to install the app "Delay Start”.  (Free 
>> from the App Store.)
>> 
>> This app is the only one I have in the user Login Items.  All other apps I 
>> want to open automatically are listed in Delay Start.  From memory I think 
>> 10 apps can be listed in Delay Start.
>> 
>> My setting is to open Delay Start after 2 seconds.  This allows time for all 
>> the “built in” Apple tests and apps to fire up without confusing extras that 
>> may need an apple app to be working first.
>> 
>> Perhaps you can “prove” which startup items are causing the problem by 
>> selective deletion from the login list.  Or just remove the lot and see if 
>> you get an improvement.  Take a screenshot of your startup app list first!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 10:34 am, Philippe Chaperon >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen, 
>>> 
>>> On the matter of slow start-ups, I have noticed how slow my two iMacs, the 
>>> older one running High Sierra v 10.13.6 and the other Catalina v 10.15.7, 
>>> are to start when I was given a 6 year old Windows laptop running the 
>>> latest Windows version which starts within a minute or less!
>>> 
>>> Maybe one of our experts Ronni, Daniel etc could explain why our beloved 
>>> Macs are taking so long to start. My older Mac has possibly got too many 
>>> utilities loading at start-up, e.g. StatPlus, Boinc Manager, 1 Password 
>>> which could explain the slowness? But Mail has also been extremely slow to 
>>> start up, maybe SpamSieve? Or possibly due to security protection the OS 
>>> has to do more checking these days?
>>> 
>>> The mystery remains for me. 
>>> 
>>> have a safe week everyone, 
>>> 
>>> Philippe C. dit la Grenouille ...
>>> 
>>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 9:22 am, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Ronni & Phillipe.
>>> I have now removed it from my startup folder.
>>> 
>>> However my iMac is still slower starting up.
>>> Ho Hum … I just need to be more patient I guess !
>>> 
 On 26 Oct 2020, at 5:46 am, Ronni Brown >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 Speech Synthesis Server is the process that allows the time to be heard on 
 the hour, and allows voice input. If you do not need any of these things, 
 go to System Preferences>Accounts>YOUR ACCOUNT>Login Items and remove it.
 
 Kind Regards,
 Ronni
 
  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
 
 
> On 25 Oct 2020, at 4:56 pm, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
> I wondered why my iMac startup slowed down recently.
> 
> So I checked in System Preferences/Users & Groups/Login Items.
> There is an App that I don’t recognise in there called 
> “SpeechSynthesisServer”
> 
> Does any know what that is and does it need to be in my Startup Apps ?
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Startup Apps ?

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Alan.
The only two other Apps in my Startup are Mail & Dropbox.
I am wondering if Dropbox really needs to be the Startup Folder ?

I have a 2017 iMac , Retina 4K, 21.5 inch
Processor i7 3.6 GHz Quad Core
16 GB RAM
500 GB SSD

It is a very fast Mac and usually gets to login in 25 seconds.
But in the last week that time has tripled.

I might try the starting in Verbose Mode trick (hold down V) to see what it is 
doing at startup.

> On 26 Oct 2020, at 2:53 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan, 
> 
> Many thanks for that suggestion. I am getting this application and will 
> follow your instructions by removing the lot and introducing one at a time 
> and see which one is creating the trouble. 
> 
> Great idea and my thanks. Hopefully Stephen will go through the test also. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Philippe C. 
> 
> On 26 Oct 2020, at 2:49 pm, Alan Smith  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Philippe and Stephen,
> 
> My solution to slow startups was to install the app "Delay Start”.  (Free 
> from the App Store.)
> 
> This app is the only one I have in the user Login Items.  All other apps I 
> want to open automatically are listed in Delay Start.  From memory I think 10 
> apps can be listed in Delay Start.
> 
> My setting is to open Delay Start after 2 seconds.  This allows time for all 
> the “built in” Apple tests and apps to fire up without confusing extras that 
> may need an apple app to be working first.
> 
> Perhaps you can “prove” which startup items are causing the problem by 
> selective deletion from the login list.  Or just remove the lot and see if 
> you get an improvement.  Take a screenshot of your startup app list first!
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
> 
> 
>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 10:34 am, Philippe Chaperon > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen, 
>> 
>> On the matter of slow start-ups, I have noticed how slow my two iMacs, the 
>> older one running High Sierra v 10.13.6 and the other Catalina v 10.15.7, 
>> are to start when I was given a 6 year old Windows laptop running the latest 
>> Windows version which starts within a minute or less!
>> 
>> Maybe one of our experts Ronni, Daniel etc could explain why our beloved 
>> Macs are taking so long to start. My older Mac has possibly got too many 
>> utilities loading at start-up, e.g. StatPlus, Boinc Manager, 1 Password 
>> which could explain the slowness? But Mail has also been extremely slow to 
>> start up, maybe SpamSieve? Or possibly due to security protection the OS has 
>> to do more checking these days?
>> 
>> The mystery remains for me. 
>> 
>> have a safe week everyone, 
>> 
>> Philippe C. dit la Grenouille ...
>> 
>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 9:22 am, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni & Phillipe.
>> I have now removed it from my startup folder.
>> 
>> However my iMac is still slower starting up.
>> Ho Hum … I just need to be more patient I guess !
>> 
>>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 5:46 am, Ronni Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
>>> Speech Synthesis Server is the process that allows the time to be heard on 
>>> the hour, and allows voice input. If you do not need any of these things, 
>>> go to System Preferences>Accounts>YOUR ACCOUNT>Login Items and remove it.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 25 Oct 2020, at 4:56 pm, Stephen Chape >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi folks
 I wondered why my iMac startup slowed down recently.
 
 So I checked in System Preferences/Users & Groups/Login Items.
 There is an App that I don’t recognise in there called 
 “SpeechSynthesisServer”
 
 Does any know what that is and does it need to be in my Startup Apps ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
 
 
 
 
 
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>> Stephen Chape
>> 
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Re: Startup Apps ?

[Alan Smith]

Hi Philippe and Stephen,

My solution to slow startups was to install the app "Delay Start”.  (Free from 
the App Store.)

This app is the only one I have in the user Login Items.  All other apps I want 
to open automatically are listed in Delay Start.  From memory I think 10 apps 
can be listed in Delay Start.

My setting is to open Delay Start after 2 seconds.  This allows time for all 
the “built in” Apple tests and apps to fire up without confusing extras that 
may need an apple app to be working first.

Perhaps you can “prove” which startup items are causing the problem by 
selective deletion from the login list.  Or just remove the lot and see if you 
get an improvement.  Take a screenshot of your startup app list first!

Cheers,
Alan


> On 26 Oct 2020, at 10:34 am, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen, 
> 
> On the matter of slow start-ups, I have noticed how slow my two iMacs, the 
> older one running High Sierra v 10.13.6 and the other Catalina v 10.15.7, are 
> to start when I was given a 6 year old Windows laptop running the latest 
> Windows version which starts within a minute or less!
> 
> Maybe one of our experts Ronni, Daniel etc could explain why our beloved Macs 
> are taking so long to start. My older Mac has possibly got too many utilities 
> loading at start-up, e.g. StatPlus, Boinc Manager, 1 Password which could 
> explain the slowness? But Mail has also been extremely slow to start up, 
> maybe SpamSieve? Or possibly due to security protection the OS has to do more 
> checking these days?
> 
> The mystery remains for me. 
> 
> have a safe week everyone, 
> 
> Philippe C. dit la Grenouille ...
> 
> On 26 Oct 2020, at 9:22 am, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni & Phillipe.
> I have now removed it from my startup folder.
> 
> However my iMac is still slower starting up.
> Ho Hum … I just need to be more patient I guess !
> 
>> On 26 Oct 2020, at 5:46 am, Ronni Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>> Speech Synthesis Server is the process that allows the time to be heard on 
>> the hour, and allows voice input. If you do not need any of these things, go 
>> to System Preferences>Accounts>YOUR ACCOUNT>Login Items and remove it.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Oct 2020, at 4:56 pm, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks
>>> I wondered why my iMac startup slowed down recently.
>>> 
>>> So I checked in System Preferences/Users & Groups/Login Items.
>>> There is an App that I don’t recognise in there called 
>>> “SpeechSynthesisServer”
>>> 
>>> Does any know what that is and does it need to be in my Startup Apps ?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
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