Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-25 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi James,

We are talking about the DVD Region Code blocking on Mac Computers aren't we 
... not commercial DVD Players?

You should know basis about your MacIntosh and region locking. The limitation 
is double : firstly is hardware. 
This is the first to run when you’re inserting a DVD in your optical drive.
But there’s a second limitation which is purely software, through your 
Operating System.

As Daniel has explained how to overcome the issue  be able to use VLC to play 
DVDs without affecting the Region Codie issue.
We DON'T recommend flashing the DVD hardware on a Mac for numerous reasons. 
One, it voids your Warranty, Two if it goes wrong during the process ... that's 
the end of your drive.

What needs to happen is Apple Changes this Silly Region Code blocking it has. 
 If you read my previous reply to Shay, re the ACCC case in which the High 
Court Of Australia ruled that region lockouts breached fair trade and market 
competition practices.

So what Apple is doing is possibly illegal in Australia.

Cheers,
Ronni, 

On 25/02/2010, at 3:16 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

 interesting
 just some weeks ago i had a callout to fix the problem can't play french 
 dvds on a nec dvd-player
 on
 http://www.videohelp.com/
 i found a hack  followed the instuctionsit worked  because its region 0 
 now it plays any dvd from any place
 no further questions asked.
 James
 
 On 25/02/2010, at 9:39, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi James,
 
 How I understand the setting of the DVD Region Code, if when you first 
 purchase a new Mac, you insert a Region 0 DVD, which presumably will set the 
 drive as Region 0. You would be able to play Region 0 DVDs, but when you go 
 to play a different region DVD, say Region 4 (which is Australia), you would 
 be asked to change the region of the drive to Region 4.
 
 That's how I understand it anyway.
 
 A solution would be to copy the DVDs in iDVD (our Apple programme to create 
 DVDs) as it makes disks with no Region Code, so Region Code 0.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 
 On 25/02/2010, at 8:14 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
 
 just my 2c
 as far i know if you put in a dvd mac book ask you for region change  the 
 drive stores that new region based on the dvd put in
 can't you put in a dvd which is set to region 0  the drive may accept this 
 as new region, result: it should play all dvd's w/o further change needed
 James
 On 24/02/2010, at 18:40, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 On 24/2/10 6:26 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that
 horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD
 player's region code?
 
 This is on a new MacBook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Andrew
 
 Unfortunately not through Apple DVD Player. You can try and hack the
 hardware with certain software, but I've never recommended this or tried it
 myself, as if it goes wrong during the process, you can fry your drive. 
 (Not
 worth the risk I tend to think).
 Once work around is to not have DVD player launch on load (System
 Preferences - CDs  DVDs then under When you insert a video DVD you 
 change
 this to ignore).
 Then once the DVD is mounted (which doesn't affect the region code issue),
 you find the VIDEO_TS folder, and look for the largest file. You can then
 play this in VLC.  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
 
 Sure, you don't get all the bells and whistles. But you get to watch the
 movie part without worrying about region codes and locking your DVD Player
 to another region. :o)
 
 Welcome to the free world :o)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 ---
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DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread Andrew Schox

Hi all,

Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that 
horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD 
player's region code?

This is on a new MacBook.

Cheers,

Andrew



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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread Gavin Criddle

Hi Andrew,

VLC.

www.videolan.org

Gav


On 24/02/2010, at 6:26 PM, Andrew Schox wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that 
 horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD 
 player's region code?
 
 This is on a new MacBook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread Dark1

Hi Andrew.

I believe this was discussed recently on the list and although I can't remember 
what was said your answers should still be available through the archive.

Ruben

 
 Hi all,
 
 Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that 
 horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD 
 player's region code?
 
 This is on a new MacBook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread Daniel Kerr

On 24/2/10 6:26 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that
 horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD
 player's region code?
 
 This is on a new MacBook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 
 


Hi Andrew

Unfortunately not through Apple DVD Player. You can try and hack the
hardware with certain software, but I've never recommended this or tried it
myself, as if it goes wrong during the process, you can fry your drive. (Not
worth the risk I tend to think).
Once work around is to not have DVD player launch on load (System
Preferences - CDs  DVDs then under When you insert a video DVD you change
this to ignore).
Then once the DVD is mounted (which doesn't affect the region code issue),
you find the VIDEO_TS folder, and look for the largest file. You can then
play this in VLC.  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Sure, you don't get all the bells and whistles. But you get to watch the
movie part without worrying about region codes and locking your DVD Player
to another region. :o)

Welcome to the free world :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel
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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread Andrew Schox

Thanks guys,

I'll check the archives - which, of course, I should have done before posting 
my query :-(

Cheers,

Andrew

On 24/02/2010, at 6:33 PM, Dark1 wrote:

 
 Hi Andrew.
 
 I believe this was discussed recently on the list and although I can't 
 remember what was said your answers should still be available through the 
 archive.
 
 Ruben
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that 
 horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD 
 player's region code?
 
 This is on a new MacBook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread Shay Telfer

Hi...

It still seems stupid to me that the $80 DVD player from JB Hi Fi comes
with a firmware patch to remove the region coding in line with the ACCC
ruling, but that $X000 Macs restrict you from playing the DVD's you
bought legally from overseas. Sigh.

Thanks,
Shay

On 24/02/2010 6:40 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 On 24/2/10 6:26 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:
 

 Hi all,

 Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that
 horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD
 player's region code?

 This is on a new MacBook.

 Cheers,

 Andrew



 
 
 Hi Andrew
 
 Unfortunately not through Apple DVD Player. You can try and hack the
 hardware with certain software, but I've never recommended this or tried it
 myself, as if it goes wrong during the process, you can fry your drive. (Not
 worth the risk I tend to think).
 Once work around is to not have DVD player launch on load (System
 Preferences - CDs  DVDs then under When you insert a video DVD you change
 this to ignore).
 Then once the DVD is mounted (which doesn't affect the region code issue),
 you find the VIDEO_TS folder, and look for the largest file. You can then
 play this in VLC.  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
 
 Sure, you don't get all the bells and whistles. But you get to watch the
 movie part without worrying about region codes and locking your DVD Player
 to another region. :o)
 
 Welcome to the free world :o)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread James / Hans Kunz

just my 2c
as far i know if you put in a dvd mac book ask you for region change  
 the drive stores that new region based on the dvd put in
can't you put in a dvd which is set to region 0  the drive may  
accept this as new region, result: it should play all dvd's w/o  
further change needed

James
On 24/02/2010, at 18:40, Daniel Kerr wrote:



On 24/2/10 6:26 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au  
wrote:




Hi all,

Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without  
invoking that
horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change  
the DVD

player's region code?

This is on a new MacBook.

Cheers,

Andrew






Hi Andrew

Unfortunately not through Apple DVD Player. You can try and hack the
hardware with certain software, but I've never recommended this or  
tried it
myself, as if it goes wrong during the process, you can fry your  
drive. (Not

worth the risk I tend to think).
Once work around is to not have DVD player launch on load (System
Preferences - CDs  DVDs then under When you insert a video DVD  
you change

this to ignore).
Then once the DVD is mounted (which doesn't affect the region code  
issue),
you find the VIDEO_TS folder, and look for the largest file. You  
can then

play this in VLC.  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Sure, you don't get all the bells and whistles. But you get to  
watch the
movie part without worrying about region codes and locking your DVD  
Player

to another region. :o)

Welcome to the free world :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel
---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au


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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Shay,

I agree, this is silly to me, and from how I understand this Region Limits 
Apple imposes, is illegal in Australia.

In Australia most (all?) Standalone DVD players will play discs from any 
region. It's the DVD drives in computers that observe region locking. 
Its illegal to sell region locked DVD players in this country. 
In 2005 the result of a landmark ACCC case in which the High Court of Australia 
ruled that region lockouts breached fair trade and market competition 
practices. 
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2005/58.html

If you can get Apple to take that ruling seriously let me know. 

Cheers,
Ronni

On 25/02/2010, at 12:12 AM, Shay Telfer wrote:

 
 Hi...
 
 It still seems stupid to me that the $80 DVD player from JB Hi Fi comes
 with a firmware patch to remove the region coding in line with the ACCC
 ruling, but that $X000 Macs restrict you from playing the DVD's you
 bought legally from overseas. Sigh.
 
 Thanks,
 Shay
 
 On 24/02/2010 6:40 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 On 24/2/10 6:26 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that
 horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD
 player's region code?
 
 This is on a new MacBook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Andrew
 
 Unfortunately not through Apple DVD Player. You can try and hack the
 hardware with certain software, but I've never recommended this or tried it
 myself, as if it goes wrong during the process, you can fry your drive. (Not
 worth the risk I tend to think).
 Once work around is to not have DVD player launch on load (System
 Preferences - CDs  DVDs then under When you insert a video DVD you change
 this to ignore).
 Then once the DVD is mounted (which doesn't affect the region code issue),
 you find the VIDEO_TS folder, and look for the largest file. You can then
 play this in VLC.  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
 
 Sure, you don't get all the bells and whistles. But you get to watch the
 movie part without worrying about region codes and locking your DVD Player
 to another region. :o)
 
 Welcome to the free world :o)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
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 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi James,

How I understand the setting of the DVD Region Code, if when you first purchase 
a new Mac, you insert a Region 0 DVD, which presumably will set the drive as 
Region 0. You would be able to play Region 0 DVDs, but when you go to play a 
different region DVD, say Region 4 (which is Australia), you would be asked to 
change the region of the drive to Region 4.

That's how I understand it anyway.

A solution would be to copy the DVDs in iDVD (our Apple programme to create 
DVDs) as it makes disks with no Region Code, so Region Code 0.

Cheers,
Ronni




On 25/02/2010, at 8:14 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

 just my 2c
 as far i know if you put in a dvd mac book ask you for region change  the 
 drive stores that new region based on the dvd put in
 can't you put in a dvd which is set to region 0  the drive may accept this 
 as new region, result: it should play all dvd's w/o further change needed
 James
 On 24/02/2010, at 18:40, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 On 24/2/10 6:26 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without invoking that
 horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to change the DVD
 player's region code?
 
 This is on a new MacBook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Andrew
 
 Unfortunately not through Apple DVD Player. You can try and hack the
 hardware with certain software, but I've never recommended this or tried it
 myself, as if it goes wrong during the process, you can fry your drive. (Not
 worth the risk I tend to think).
 Once work around is to not have DVD player launch on load (System
 Preferences - CDs  DVDs then under When you insert a video DVD you change
 this to ignore).
 Then once the DVD is mounted (which doesn't affect the region code issue),
 you find the VIDEO_TS folder, and look for the largest file. You can then
 play this in VLC.  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
 
 Sure, you don't get all the bells and whistles. But you get to watch the
 movie part without worrying about region codes and locking your DVD Player
 to another region. :o)
 
 Welcome to the free world :o)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
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Re: DVD region codes

2010-02-24 Thread James / Hans Kunz

interesting
just some weeks ago i had a callout to fix the problem can't play  
french dvds on a nec dvd-player

on
http://www.videohelp.com/
i found a hack  followed the instuctionsit worked  because its  
region 0 now it plays any dvd from any place

no further questions asked.
James

On 25/02/2010, at 9:39, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi James,

How I understand the setting of the DVD Region Code, if when you  
first purchase a new Mac, you insert a Region 0 DVD, which  
presumably will set the drive as Region 0. You would be able to  
play Region 0 DVDs, but when you go to play a different region DVD,  
say Region 4 (which is Australia), you would be asked to change the  
region of the drive to Region 4.


That's how I understand it anyway.

A solution would be to copy the DVDs in iDVD (our Apple programme  
to create DVDs) as it makes disks with no Region Code, so Region  
Code 0.


Cheers,
Ronni




On 25/02/2010, at 8:14 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:


just my 2c
as far i know if you put in a dvd mac book ask you for region  
change  the drive stores that new region based on the dvd put in
can't you put in a dvd which is set to region 0  the drive may  
accept this as new region, result: it should play all dvd's w/o  
further change needed

James
On 24/02/2010, at 18:40, Daniel Kerr wrote:



On 24/2/10 6:26 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au  
wrote:




Hi all,

Is there any way to play DVDs from different regions without  
invoking that
horrible little dialog that only gives you a few chances to  
change the DVD

player's region code?

This is on a new MacBook.

Cheers,

Andrew






Hi Andrew

Unfortunately not through Apple DVD Player. You can try and  
hack the
hardware with certain software, but I've never recommended this  
or tried it
myself, as if it goes wrong during the process, you can fry your  
drive. (Not

worth the risk I tend to think).
Once work around is to not have DVD player launch on load (System
Preferences - CDs  DVDs then under When you insert a video DVD  
you change

this to ignore).
Then once the DVD is mounted (which doesn't affect the region  
code issue),
you find the VIDEO_TS folder, and look for the largest file. You  
can then

play this in VLC.  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Sure, you don't get all the bells and whistles. But you get to  
watch the
movie part without worrying about region codes and locking your  
DVD Player

to another region. :o)

Welcome to the free world :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel
---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
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