Re: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!

2003-12-19 Thread Paul Kitchener
On 17/12/2003, at 12:10 PM, Rod Lavington wrote:


 Hi All!

 I have been having a couple of problems with 10.3 and networking.  
 Specifically, when I take my laptop to work and plug into the ADSL 
 router (which is just running a DHCP server), I have to restart 
both 
 the modem and the iBook to get the internet up and running.  I 
have no 
 prblems getting an IP address from the router, but getting the net 
 seems to be painful.

 Anybody else had issues with networking in 10.3?  It worked pretty 
 darn good in 10.2, so I hope they haven't changed things for the 
sake 
 of change!

I tend to agree. Panther networking seems determined to phase out 
the 
classic method of mounting shared folders and devices, where they 
would mount as icons on the desktop, and which you could unmount as 
you 
finished with them by dragging to the trash.

The new network browsing model works more like the Windows 
arrangement 
where, having once logged in to a remote share, you remain logged in 
until you log out of your local account. This is much less secure on 
a 
computer which is used by several people.

On my system, the network browsing model works fine for networking 
through to my old 7500. If I try it using Go  Connect to Server... 
(the Jaguar way) the Finder hangs while trying to draw the contents 
of 
the remote window.

Note to Apple: Gimme the Panther functionality, but please make the 
Jaguar way work again!

-- 
Peter Hinchliffe
Apwin Computer ServicesFileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth,  
Western Australia   Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913

*Seasons greetings all*

While this causes probs for you I think it may have fixed some things
for me.

In the past I would experience nasty, but recoverable hangs on OSX
when a mounted share changed status ie went offline.
So far (two weeks) I havent noticed this prob.

Previously we needed to be v careful and always dismount these drives
asap, now Im thinking we can relax a little, hopefully.

Basically anything which required a network connection (Help, FTP
bookmarks, network shares etc) could cause this prob if the share
wasnt available resulting in 'The Spinning Wheel of Disenchantment'.

Cheers
Paul

PS Sorry about leaving the previous thread in this message, I think
it is probably apt. If a 56k connection has probs with text Id be
looking for a new ISP or something.



Re: Netiquette (was: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!)

2003-12-19 Thread Adam Hewitt


On 19/12/2003, at 9:44 AM, Paul Kitchener wrote:


PS Sorry about leaving the previous thread in this message, I think
it is probably apt. If a 56k connection has probs with text Id be
looking for a new ISP or something.


It is not one email that has a problem over 56k, its when you are 
subscribed to multiple lists etc. It also wastes peoples download 
limits, and bandwidth. It also means that unless you are a top poster 
people need to scroll through pages of stuff they have already read in 
order to read your response. It comes down to responsible 
internetting and netiquette.


I suggest you read http://www.albion.com/netiquette/

especially http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule4.html

Adam.



Re: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!

2003-12-18 Thread Rob Findlay
Just something I've noticed, if you have 2 computers on the same network
with names that start with the same word such as Matt's computer and
Matt's imac you will get this symptom. Changing the name of one has fixed
this problem twice for me now. Other than that I have a client who brings
his powerbook 10.3.1 from home where he has an airport network to work where
there is a DHCP server running on ethernet. Changing locations gets him on
the net fine.

Generally I've found the networking in 10.3 good so far apart from the
inexplicable need to have to turn appletalk on from both the network
settings and from the Directory Access Utility.

I set-up a gigabit network the other day with a G5 and a high spec Win XP
box and the transfer speed was like nothing I have ever seen. I had to
choose files of 50Meg and more just to see a transfer progress bar appear on
the Mac. Anything smaller and the files just appeared on the desktop as if
by magic.
Just my experience so far.
Cheers
Rob

 From: Matt Huitson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:57:51 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!
 
 Hmm,
 
 Common factor here is starting to sound like the Powerbook.  Networking
 on my home system at the moment blows hard in one direction - that is,
 I can connect from my iMac to my Powerbook just fine, but attempting
 the connection in the opposite direction is fraught with difficulty.  I
 can see the iMac, it will prompt me for, and accept, my password and
 will even display the shared partitions, but clicking on them informs
 me that the volume cannot be found.  Rebooting, etc does not solve
 the problem.  Obviously I can live with the hassle of a one-way
 connection, but...
 
 Roll on 10.3.2.
 
 Regards, Matt.
 -
 Matt Huitson
 School of Psychology
 University of Western Australia
 35 Stirling Highway
 Crawley, WA 6009
 Australia
 Work (08) 9380 3639
 Mobile 0414 294 770
 
 On 17/12/2003, at 12:38 PM, Steve Fellows wrote:
 
 Rod
 
 this definitely seems to be the case
 
 I use a Powerbook between here and work, moving between Ethernet and
 two
 airport networks. If I change from Ethernet to airport, I either need
 to
 sleep the machine or restart it to see the changed interface.
 
 a lovely feature
 
 sTEVE
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Lavington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2003 12:11 PM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!
 
 
 
 Hi All!
 
 I have been having a couple of problems with 10.3 and
 networking.  Specifically, when I take my laptop to work
 and plug into the ADSL router (which is just running a
 DHCP server), I have to restart both the modem and the
 iBook to get the internet up and running.  I have no
 prblems getting an IP address from the router, but getting
 the net seems to be painful.
 
 Anybody else had issues with networking in 10.3?  It
 worked pretty darn good in 10.2, so I hope they haven't
 changed things for the sake of change!
 
 Merry Christmas to everyone on the list, and have a great
 New Year!
 
 Seeya
 
 Rod!
 
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Re: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!

2003-12-18 Thread Kaye and Geoff

Generally I've found the networking in 10.3 good ...


I'm having endless trouble connecting my PC (Windows ME) to my eMac 
running 10.3. (used to have it working from 10.2).


I can see the eMac from the PC, but get No permission to access 
resource if I try to connect. I have enabled Windows sharing in 
System Preferences. Is this another case of having to also set 
switches somewhere else?


Despite the fact that networking seems to be working OK on the PC I 
can't see it at all from the eMac - it simply doesn't appear when I 
browse the network.


Any suggestions will be gratefully received (ok - I know - get rid of 
the PC :-)


Cheers, Kaye
--
Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.omninet.net.au/~kg/


Re: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!

2003-12-18 Thread Ryan Schotte
 
 Hi All!
 
 I have been having a couple of problems with 10.3 and 
 networking.  Specifically, when I take my laptop to work 
 and plug into the ADSL router (which is just running a 
 DHCP server), I have to restart both the modem and the 
 iBook to get the internet up and running.  I have no 
 prblems getting an IP address from the router, but getting 
 the net seems to be painful.

OS X 10.3.2 Networking enhancements: Resolves an issue with getting or
maintaining an IP address via DHCP, under certain conditions.

May have just been fixed?

Ry


Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!

2003-12-17 Thread Rod Lavington


Hi All!

I have been having a couple of problems with 10.3 and 
networking.  Specifically, when I take my laptop to work 
and plug into the ADSL router (which is just running a 
DHCP server), I have to restart both the modem and the 
iBook to get the internet up and running.  I have no 
prblems getting an IP address from the router, but getting 
the net seems to be painful.


Anybody else had issues with networking in 10.3?  It 
worked pretty darn good in 10.2, so I hope they haven't 
changed things for the sake of change!


Merry Christmas to everyone on the list, and have a great 
New Year!


Seeya

Rod!


RE: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!

2003-12-17 Thread Steve Fellows
Rod

this definitely seems to be the case

I use a Powerbook between here and work, moving between Ethernet and two
airport networks. If I change from Ethernet to airport, I either need to
sleep the machine or restart it to see the changed interface.

a lovely feature

sTEVE

-Original Message-
From: Rod Lavington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2003 12:11 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!



Hi All!

I have been having a couple of problems with 10.3 and 
networking.  Specifically, when I take my laptop to work 
and plug into the ADSL router (which is just running a 
DHCP server), I have to restart both the modem and the 
iBook to get the internet up and running.  I have no 
prblems getting an IP address from the router, but getting 
the net seems to be painful.

Anybody else had issues with networking in 10.3?  It 
worked pretty darn good in 10.2, so I hope they haven't 
changed things for the sake of change!

Merry Christmas to everyone on the list, and have a great 
New Year!

Seeya

Rod!

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Re: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!

2003-12-17 Thread Matt Huitson

Hmm,

Common factor here is starting to sound like the Powerbook.  Networking 
on my home system at the moment blows hard in one direction - that is, 
I can connect from my iMac to my Powerbook just fine, but attempting 
the connection in the opposite direction is fraught with difficulty.  I 
can see the iMac, it will prompt me for, and accept, my password and 
will even display the shared partitions, but clicking on them informs 
me that the volume cannot be found.  Rebooting, etc does not solve 
the problem.  Obviously I can live with the hassle of a one-way 
connection, but...


Roll on 10.3.2.

Regards, Matt.
 -
Matt Huitson
School of Psychology
University of Western Australia
35 Stirling Highway
Crawley, WA 6009
Australia
Work (08) 9380 3639
Mobile 0414 294 770

On 17/12/2003, at 12:38 PM, Steve Fellows wrote:


Rod

this definitely seems to be the case

I use a Powerbook between here and work, moving between Ethernet and 
two
airport networks. If I change from Ethernet to airport, I either need 
to

sleep the machine or restart it to see the changed interface.

a lovely feature

sTEVE

-Original Message-
From: Rod Lavington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2003 12:11 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Is it just me, or does Networking in 10.3 suck!



Hi All!

I have been having a couple of problems with 10.3 and
networking.  Specifically, when I take my laptop to work
and plug into the ADSL router (which is just running a
DHCP server), I have to restart both the modem and the
iBook to get the internet up and running.  I have no
prblems getting an IP address from the router, but getting
the net seems to be painful.

Anybody else had issues with networking in 10.3?  It
worked pretty darn good in 10.2, so I hope they haven't
changed things for the sake of change!

Merry Christmas to everyone on the list, and have a great
New Year!

Seeya

Rod!

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