Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Hello again David I have now installed the Beta and it all works well. Much easier to install that I thought it would be. Wendy On 23/09/2009, at 22:25 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Hi Ronni and David I am with you on this one David. I have looked at this Beta but as soon as I saw mention of 'Terminal' etc, decided to wait for the next version. Wendy On 23/09/2009, at 19:19 PM, David Moyle wrote: Hey Ronni, I did see that this was available, I like being on the bleeding edge but not that much of an edge! :) I require working Mail for work, couldn't loose Mail or have it un- reliable! :) Can't wait for the release! Thanks, -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Hi Wendy David, Aaron Harnly has released a beta of Letterbox that works on 64-bit Mail.app. http://harnly.net/2009/software/letterbox/letterbox-beta-4-for-snow-leopard/#more-227 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard On 22/09/2009, at 3:32 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Oh me too David! Wendy On 21/09/2009, at 19:20 PM, David Moyle wrote: WideMail Letterbox Both of these bits of software allow the layout of Mail to be modified which is of great benefit when using a widescreen computer. Neither pieces of software have been fully updated for Snow Leopard as I write this but I can tell you I am waiting for this to occur! :) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Hey Ronni, I did see that this was available, I like being on the bleeding edge but not that much of an edge! :) I require working Mail for work, couldn't loose Mail or have it un-reliable! :) Can't wait for the release! Thanks, - Original Message - From: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Sent: Wednesday, 23 September, 2009 1:54:55 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi Subject: Re: Mail App. Nuisance. Hi Wendy David, Aaron Harnly has released a beta of Letterbox that works on 64-bit Mail.app. http://harnly.net/2009/software/letterbox/letterbox-beta-4-for-snow-leopard/#more-227 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard On 22/09/2009, at 3:32 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Oh me too David! Wendy On 21/09/2009, at 19:20 PM, David Moyle wrote: WideMail Letterbox Both of these bits of software allow the layout of Mail to be modified which is of great benefit when using a widescreen computer. Neither pieces of software have been fully updated for Snow Leopard as I write this but I can tell you I am waiting for this to occur! :) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Hi Ronni and David I am with you on this one David. I have looked at this Beta but as soon as I saw mention of 'Terminal' etc, decided to wait for the next version. Wendy On 23/09/2009, at 19:19 PM, David Moyle wrote: Hey Ronni, I did see that this was available, I like being on the bleeding edge but not that much of an edge! :) I require working Mail for work, couldn't loose Mail or have it un- reliable! :) Can't wait for the release! Thanks, -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Oh me too David! Wendy On 21/09/2009, at 19:20 PM, David Moyle wrote: WideMail Letterbox Both of these bits of software allow the layout of Mail to be modified which is of great benefit when using a widescreen computer. Neither pieces of software have been fully updated for Snow Leopard as I write this but I can tell you I am waiting for this to occur! :) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Hello David These suggestions did not make any difference to my problem, but I do appreciate your help anyway. I am trying out Letterbox and may keep it. So may I say thank you for your input. Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 21/09/2009, at 5:20 PM, David Moyle wrote: Evening all, I didn't see this discussion previously but thought I would make you all aware of two pieces of software that can make the Mail experience a little nicer. WideMail Letterbox Both of these bits of software allow the layout of Mail to be modified which is of great benefit when using a widescreen computer. Neither pieces of software have been fully updated for Snow Leopard as I write this but I can tell you I am waiting for this to occur! :) Thanks, On 21/09/2009, at 3:40 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello List Just to let anyone know who may have been following this thread, The column behavior in Mail is normal (but still a bit of a nuisance). Anyway we got to the bottom of it. Thanks again to Ronni. Kind regards Greg Manzie 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au You're welcome Greg, We should let the list know. Perhaps you could post my last reply to you. It explains what your problem was and an explanation. If you prefer I do it, that is fine. Whatever you prefer to do is ok with me. Kind regards, Ronni On 21/09/2009, at 3:00 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Thank you very much Ronni I've lived with this for years and can continue to do so. It's only a mild nuisance really. At least now I know it's not just me. Do we need to let the list know. Or should we just let the thread die. Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 21/09/2009, at 1:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hello Greg, I'm back from fixing the Wireless Network. The clients are happy to have their Wireless Network up running, working as it should again. Of course as always they wanted a While you're here Ronni would you mind checking this for us ;-) Ok, on to your Mail App. Nuisance. First thanks for sending your screenshots, I can now see what you mean. Unfortunately you are probably not going to like what I am going to tell you. The width of columns in the Address Book pane in Mail can only be changed on a per-session basis; after you quit Mail, they will revert to their original values. There is no way to set the default width of columns for Address Book. The same applies to the Signature Prefs columns. You can't set the default column widths in the Address Book pane used by Mail or the Signature Prefs; any changes you make are for that session only. You could possibly experiment with a different font size. The Address pane is the one that is the biggest nuisance, as I use it several times a day. This little tip might help you: An easy way to add recipients to the To, Cc, and Bcc fields is to click in the desired field (in a new email) and click Address Book in the toolbar. That opens the Address (Book) panel, from which you can 'double click' a person to have his or her e-mail address inserted. I'm using Mail v4.1 in Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.1 I notice my AddressBook opens with a wider 'Group' column than your AddressBook 'Group' column. I've attached screenshots of my AddressBook from Mail Signature Prefs for Mail at opening of Mail for you to see the slight difference (which is probably due to updated version of Mail). If I find a plugin or something that might be able to change the default I will let you know. Kind Regards, Ronni Ron's AddressBook from Mail at opening of Mail app.png Ron's Signature Prefs for Mail at opening of Mail.png On 21/09/2009, at 10:03 AM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello Ronni Sorry for the tardy reply. I have been at a training course all weekend. Also, thank you for your interest. Your input is so valuable to everyone. Here are the screen shots from my G4 using the Grab app. My MacBook Pro has a similar look but not identical. Maybe this is normal. After all the phenomenon has survived years of upgrades and OS changes, plus many attempts at preference resetting etc. Maybe everyone's Mac does this. I am not aware of any other Apple application that does it though. Or if it does, it is not one that I use often enough to notice. The Address pane is the one that is the biggest
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Hello List Just to let anyone know who may have been following this thread, The column behavior in Mail is normal (but still a bit of a nuisance). Anyway we got to the bottom of it. Thanks again to Ronni. Kind regards Greg Manzie 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au You're welcome Greg, We should let the list know. Perhaps you could post my last reply to you. It explains what your problem was and an explanation. If you prefer I do it, that is fine. Whatever you prefer to do is ok with me. Kind regards, Ronni On 21/09/2009, at 3:00 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Thank you very much Ronni I've lived with this for years and can continue to do so. It's only a mild nuisance really. At least now I know it's not just me. Do we need to let the list know. Or should we just let the thread die. Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 21/09/2009, at 1:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hello Greg, I'm back from fixing the Wireless Network. The clients are happy to have their Wireless Network up running, working as it should again. Of course as always they wanted a While you're here Ronni would you mind checking this for us ;-) Ok, on to your Mail App. Nuisance. First thanks for sending your screenshots, I can now see what you mean. Unfortunately you are probably not going to like what I am going to tell you. The width of columns in the Address Book pane in Mail can only be changed on a per-session basis; after you quit Mail, they will revert to their original values. There is no way to set the default width of columns for Address Book. The same applies to the Signature Prefs columns. You can't set the default column widths in the Address Book pane used by Mail or the Signature Prefs; any changes you make are for that session only. You could possibly experiment with a different font size. The Address pane is the one that is the biggest nuisance, as I use it several times a day. This little tip might help you: An easy way to add recipients to the To, Cc, and Bcc fields is to click in the desired field (in a new email) and click Address Book in the toolbar. That opens the Address (Book) panel, from which you can 'double click' a person to have his or her e-mail address inserted. I'm using Mail v4.1 in Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.1 I notice my AddressBook opens with a wider 'Group' column than your AddressBook 'Group' column. I've attached screenshots of my AddressBook from Mail Signature Prefs for Mail at opening of Mail for you to see the slight difference (which is probably due to updated version of Mail). If I find a plugin or something that might be able to change the default I will let you know. Kind Regards, Ronni Ron's AddressBook from Mail at opening of Mail app.png Ron's Signature Prefs for Mail at opening of Mail.png On 21/09/2009, at 10:03 AM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello Ronni Sorry for the tardy reply. I have been at a training course all weekend. Also, thank you for your interest. Your input is so valuable to everyone. Here are the screen shots from my G4 using the Grab app. My MacBook Pro has a similar look but not identical. Maybe this is normal. After all the phenomenon has survived years of upgrades and OS changes, plus many attempts at preference resetting etc. Maybe everyone's Mac does this. I am not aware of any other Apple application that does it though. Or if it does, it is not one that I use often enough to notice. The Address pane is the one that is the biggest nuisance, as I use it several times a day. Thanks again. I look forward to your response. Screen Grabs Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au My Macs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (PCI graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac1,2 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.6) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 1 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.2f2 Upgraded: 2 x 120GB Hard drives, Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D OS: 10.4.11 Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,3 Processor Name
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Evening all, I didn't see this discussion previously but thought I would make you all aware of two pieces of software that can make the Mail experience a little nicer. WideMail Letterbox Both of these bits of software allow the layout of Mail to be modified which is of great benefit when using a widescreen computer. Neither pieces of software have been fully updated for Snow Leopard as I write this but I can tell you I am waiting for this to occur! :) Thanks, On 21/09/2009, at 3:40 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello List Just to let anyone know who may have been following this thread, The column behavior in Mail is normal (but still a bit of a nuisance). Anyway we got to the bottom of it. Thanks again to Ronni. Kind regards Greg Manzie 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au You're welcome Greg, We should let the list know. Perhaps you could post my last reply to you. It explains what your problem was and an explanation. If you prefer I do it, that is fine. Whatever you prefer to do is ok with me. Kind regards, Ronni On 21/09/2009, at 3:00 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Thank you very much Ronni I've lived with this for years and can continue to do so. It's only a mild nuisance really. At least now I know it's not just me. Do we need to let the list know. Or should we just let the thread die. Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 21/09/2009, at 1:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hello Greg, I'm back from fixing the Wireless Network. The clients are happy to have their Wireless Network up running, working as it should again. Of course as always they wanted a While you're here Ronni would you mind checking this for us ;-) Ok, on to your Mail App. Nuisance. First thanks for sending your screenshots, I can now see what you mean. Unfortunately you are probably not going to like what I am going to tell you. The width of columns in the Address Book pane in Mail can only be changed on a per-session basis; after you quit Mail, they will revert to their original values. There is no way to set the default width of columns for Address Book. The same applies to the Signature Prefs columns. You can't set the default column widths in the Address Book pane used by Mail or the Signature Prefs; any changes you make are for that session only. You could possibly experiment with a different font size. The Address pane is the one that is the biggest nuisance, as I use it several times a day. This little tip might help you: An easy way to add recipients to the To, Cc, and Bcc fields is to click in the desired field (in a new email) and click Address Book in the toolbar. That opens the Address (Book) panel, from which you can 'double click' a person to have his or her e-mail address inserted. I'm using Mail v4.1 in Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.1 I notice my AddressBook opens with a wider 'Group' column than your AddressBook 'Group' column. I've attached screenshots of my AddressBook from Mail Signature Prefs for Mail at opening of Mail for you to see the slight difference (which is probably due to updated version of Mail). If I find a plugin or something that might be able to change the default I will let you know. Kind Regards, Ronni Ron's AddressBook from Mail at opening of Mail app.png Ron's Signature Prefs for Mail at opening of Mail.png On 21/09/2009, at 10:03 AM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello Ronni Sorry for the tardy reply. I have been at a training course all weekend. Also, thank you for your interest. Your input is so valuable to everyone. Here are the screen shots from my G4 using the Grab app. My MacBook Pro has a similar look but not identical. Maybe this is normal. After all the phenomenon has survived years of upgrades and OS changes, plus many attempts at preference resetting etc. Maybe everyone's Mac does this. I am not aware of any other Apple application that does it though. Or if it does, it is not one that I use often enough to notice. The Address pane is the one that is the biggest nuisance, as I use it several times a day. Thanks again. I look forward to your response. Screen Grabs Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au My Macs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (PCI graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac1,2 CPU Type
Mail App. Nuisance.
Hello WAMUGers There is something that has been an annoyance to me for quite some time. When I am using Apple Mail (Version 2.1.3 (753.1) on my old G4 (which I use for emails, see specs below), I have trouble getting the window settings in the Mailpreferences and Mailaddress book areas of Mail to hold. I go to Address Book from the Mail tool Bar and the columns are all squashed up to the left of the window. I reset them but the next time I go there, with or without a re-start/log-out/re-boot, they're all squashed up again. This means that I can't see the full email address or signatures panes. So I have to re-size each and every time. Not the end of the world but a damn nuisance. This has been going on for a few years now, through Panther, Tiger and Leopard on a G5. I've trashed preferences and plists, upgraded the Operating system many times, searched google, etc., etc. But this has me stumped. Am I missing something or is this the way things are supposed to be? I've never actually checked on someone else's system. Could some kind person please check their machine to see if this is normal. Sorry to bother you all with this. Now I am the nuisance. Regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au My Macs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (PCI graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac1,2 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.6) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 1 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.2f2 Upgraded: 2 x 120GB Hard drives, Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D OS: 10.4.11 Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,3 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.66 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 3 MB Memory: 4 GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version: MBP53.00AC.B03 SMC Version (system): 1.48f2 Serial Number (system): W892622M642 Hardware UUID: 4490873B-939A-5DD8-A191-B6C89F754F67 Sudden Motion Sensor: Enabled OS: 10.6.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
You're never a nuisance mate :-) Brett Tsunami Could some kind person please check their machine to see if this is normal. Sorry to bother you all with this. Now I am the nuisance. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Hi Greg, I'm not certain but I'm guessing the preference you will have to delete is com.apple.mail.plist from your preference folder as the addressbook within mail would utilise this plist. (I checked it by redefining the column widths and it was the preference that immediately updated itself when I closed the window) My only concern would be that in deleting this preference you would lose some of your valuable mail settings. I guess you should back it up before deleting. Regards, Eugene On 18/09/2009, at 5:05 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello WAMUGers There is something that has been an annoyance to me for quite some time. When I am using Apple Mail (Version 2.1.3 (753.1) on my old G4 (which I use for emails, see specs below), I have trouble getting the window settings in the Mailpreferences and Mailaddress book areas of Mail to hold. I go to Address Book from the Mail tool Bar and the columns are all squashed up to the left of the window. I reset them but the next time I go there, with or without a re-start/log-out/re-boot, they're all squashed up again. This means that I can't see the full email address or signatures panes. So I have to re-size each and every time. Not the end of the world but a damn nuisance. This has been going on for a few years now, through Panther, Tiger and Leopard on a G5. I've trashed preferences and plists, upgraded the Operating system many times, searched google, etc., etc. But this has me stumped. Am I missing something or is this the way things are supposed to be? I've never actually checked on someone else's system. Could some kind person please check their machine to see if this is normal. Sorry to bother you all with this. Now I am the nuisance. Regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au My Macs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (PCI graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac1,2 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.6) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 1 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.2f2 Upgraded: 2 x 120GB Hard drives, Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D OS: 10.4.11 Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,3 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.66 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 3 MB Memory: 4 GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version: MBP53.00AC.B03 SMC Version (system): 1.48f2 Serial Number (system): W892622M642 Hardware UUID: 4490873B-939A-5DD8-A191-B6C89F754F67 Sudden Motion Sensor: Enabled OS: 10.6.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Hi Greg, Could I just add to Eugene's suggestion please. Make sure you: 1. Quit Mail first 2. Drag the com.apple.mail.plist from your /Users/yourusername/ Library/Preferences/ to your desktop 3. Set things in Mail the way you like, then quit Mail. Does it properly save it this time? If so, your Mail prefs is corrupted. If not, you can drag the prefs file from the Desktop back to the appropriate folder, replacing the new one that was created. Cheers, Ronni who is logging off to watch The Footy On 18/09/2009, at 6:31 PM, Eugene wrote: Hi Greg, I'm not certain but I'm guessing the preference you will have to delete is com.apple.mail.plist from your preference folder as the addressbook within mail would utilise this plist. (I checked it by redefining the column widths and it was the preference that immediately updated itself when I closed the window) My only concern would be that in deleting this preference you would lose some of your valuable mail settings. I guess you should back it up before deleting. Regards, Eugene On 18/09/2009, at 5:05 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello WAMUGers There is something that has been an annoyance to me for quite some time. When I am using Apple Mail (Version 2.1.3 (753.1) on my old G4 (which I use for emails, see specs below), I have trouble getting the window settings in the Mailpreferences and Mailaddress book areas of Mail to hold. I go to Address Book from the Mail tool Bar and the columns are all squashed up to the left of the window. I reset them but the next time I go there, with or without a re-start/log-out/re-boot, they're all squashed up again. This means that I can't see the full email address or signatures panes. So I have to re-size each and every time. Not the end of the world but a damn nuisance. This has been going on for a few years now, through Panther, Tiger and Leopard on a G5. I've trashed preferences and plists, upgraded the Operating system many times, searched google, etc., etc. But this has me stumped. Am I missing something or is this the way things are supposed to be? I've never actually checked on someone else's system. Could some kind person please check their machine to see if this is normal. Sorry to bother you all with this. Now I am the nuisance. Regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au My Macs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (PCI graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac1,2 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.6) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 1 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.2f2 Upgraded: 2 x 120GB Hard drives, Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D OS: 10.4.11 Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,3 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.66 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 3 MB Memory: 4 GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version: MBP53.00AC.B03 SMC Version (system): 1.48f2 Serial Number (system): W892622M642 Hardware UUID: 4490873B-939A-5DD8-A191-B6C89F754F67 Sudden Motion Sensor: Enabled OS: 10.6.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Thank you Brett, Eugene and Ronni I have tried moving the preferences to the desktop and the trash many times before, on the G4 and G5 (I no longer have the G5) but I'm not 100% certain that I quit mail first. So I'll try again on the G4 tomorrow. I moved the prefs from the system library as well but to no avail. I am writing this from my new MacBook Pro (see below for specs) and it has the same problem. Although the default type setting that it reverts too is slightly different. That could be because I have saved my preferences from previous computers to new machines in the past. I'll try the suggested prefs move on the MacBook next. Then I'll get back to you. Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 18/09/2009, at 6:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Greg, Could I just add to Eugene's suggestion please. Make sure you: 1. Quit Mail first 2. Drag the com.apple.mail.plist from your /Users/yourusername/ Library/Preferences/ to your desktop 3. Set things in Mail the way you like, then quit Mail. Does it properly save it this time? If so, your Mail prefs is corrupted. If not, you can drag the prefs file from the Desktop back to the appropriate folder, replacing the new one that was created. Cheers, Ronni who is logging off to watch The Footy On 18/09/2009, at 6:31 PM, Eugene wrote: Hi Greg, I'm not certain but I'm guessing the preference you will have to delete is com.apple.mail.plist from your preference folder as the addressbook within mail would utilise this plist. (I checked it by redefining the column widths and it was the preference that immediately updated itself when I closed the window) My only concern would be that in deleting this preference you would lose some of your valuable mail settings. I guess you should back it up before deleting. Regards, Eugene On 18/09/2009, at 5:05 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello WAMUGers There is something that has been an annoyance to me for quite some time. When I am using Apple Mail (Version 2.1.3 (753.1) on my old G4 (which I use for emails, see specs below), I have trouble getting the window settings in the Mailpreferences and Mailaddress book areas of Mail to hold. I go to Address Book from the Mail tool Bar and the columns are all squashed up to the left of the window. I reset them but the next time I go there, with or without a re-start/log-out/re-boot, they're all squashed up again. This means that I can't see the full email address or signatures panes. So I have to re-size each and every time. Not the end of the world but a damn nuisance. This has been going on for a few years now, through Panther, Tiger and Leopard on a G5. I've trashed preferences and plists, upgraded the Operating system many times, searched google, etc., etc. But this has me stumped. Am I missing something or is this the way things are supposed to be? I've never actually checked on someone else's system. Could some kind person please check their machine to see if this is normal. Sorry to bother you all with this. Now I am the nuisance. Regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au My Macs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (PCI graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac1,2 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.6) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 1 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.2f2 Upgraded: 2 x 120GB Hard drives, Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D OS: 10.4.11 Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,3 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.66 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 3 MB Memory: 4 GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version: MBP53.00AC.B03 SMC Version (system): 1.48f2 Serial Number (system): W892622M642 Hardware UUID: 4490873B-939A-5DD8-A191-B6C89F754F67 Sudden Motion Sensor: Enabled OS: 10.6.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing
Re: Mail App. Nuisance.
Thank you Brett, Eugene and Ron No it's still the same problem. Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 18/09/2009, at 11:09 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Thank you Brett, Eugene and Ronni I have tried moving the preferences to the desktop and the trash many times before, on the G4 and G5 (I no longer have the G5) but I'm not 100% certain that I quit mail first. So I'll try again on the G4 tomorrow. I moved the prefs from the system library as well but to no avail. I am writing this from my new MacBook Pro (see below for specs) and it has the same problem. Although the default type setting that it reverts too is slightly different. That could be because I have saved my preferences from previous computers to new machines in the past. I'll try the suggested prefs move on the MacBook next. Then I'll get back to you. Kind regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 18/09/2009, at 6:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Greg, Could I just add to Eugene's suggestion please. Make sure you: 1. Quit Mail first 2. Drag the com.apple.mail.plist from your /Users/yourusername/ Library/Preferences/ to your desktop 3. Set things in Mail the way you like, then quit Mail. Does it properly save it this time? If so, your Mail prefs is corrupted. If not, you can drag the prefs file from the Desktop back to the appropriate folder, replacing the new one that was created. Cheers, Ronni who is logging off to watch The Footy On 18/09/2009, at 6:31 PM, Eugene wrote: Hi Greg, I'm not certain but I'm guessing the preference you will have to delete is com.apple.mail.plist from your preference folder as the addressbook within mail would utilise this plist. (I checked it by redefining the column widths and it was the preference that immediately updated itself when I closed the window) My only concern would be that in deleting this preference you would lose some of your valuable mail settings. I guess you should back it up before deleting. Regards, Eugene On 18/09/2009, at 5:05 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello WAMUGers There is something that has been an annoyance to me for quite some time. When I am using Apple Mail (Version 2.1.3 (753.1) on my old G4 (which I use for emails, see specs below), I have trouble getting the window settings in the Mailpreferences and Mailaddress book areas of Mail to hold. I go to Address Book from the Mail tool Bar and the columns are all squashed up to the left of the window. I reset them but the next time I go there, with or without a re-start/log-out/re-boot, they're all squashed up again. This means that I can't see the full email address or signatures panes. So I have to re-size each and every time. Not the end of the world but a damn nuisance. This has been going on for a few years now, through Panther, Tiger and Leopard on a G5. I've trashed preferences and plists, upgraded the Operating system many times, searched google, etc., etc. But this has me stumped. Am I missing something or is this the way things are supposed to be? I've never actually checked on someone else's system. Could some kind person please check their machine to see if this is normal. Sorry to bother you all with this. Now I am the nuisance. Regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers, for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors. 5 Glyde Street, Mosman Park. Western Australia 6012 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au My Macs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (PCI graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac1,2 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.6) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 1 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.2f2 Upgraded: 2 x 120GB Hard drives, Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D OS: 10.4.11 Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,3 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.66 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache:
