Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-12 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

I seldom open the widgets - only four are activated: iStat Pro, Calculator, 
Weather and Stocks.  I can't detect any sound setting associated with them.

Sound source was difficult to pinpoint: it was definitely not a smoke alarm, 
mobile phone or the fridge door - -.There are four Firewire external drives 
attached.   One is definitely a likely culprit.  Drives are located on a shelf 
just above the iMac display.   I re-organised my movie collection yesterday and 
moved 4-500GB to a new drive.   The background Spotlight Sandbox thingy has 
been generating many log entries in Console - an assumed consequence of moving 
the files

I will later change Computer Sleep back to 'Never' and try and stimulate some 
glass chimes.

Cheers
Alan

On 12/10/2012, at 1:54 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Alan,

Yes, Funk is the default alert sound in System Preferences Sound - Sound 
Effects.

Did you have any external drives attached when your heard the 'beep'?
I would disconnect any external drives from the Mac to eliminate if one of them 
causing the 'beep'.

Also check any widgets in Dashboard, one of them might give an alert 'beep' 
sound.

If you are hearing three beeps
Cheers,
Ronni

On 12/10/2012, at 1:40 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Sound effects for alerts and whatever should be the installed defaults.   
 Mail new message sound is - New Message Sound.  
 
 My quick read-around on alert tones directed me to the System Preferences  
 Sound - sound effects.  I didn't realise that the highlighted tone was a user 
 set default.  I clicked on each one to hear the sound generated and glass 
 seemed nearest to (but not quite?) the alert I heard.  
 
 Funk is (was?) the tone heard when I try to do an operation that the 
 computer doesn't like.   Is this the default alert?  My problem noise was 
 definitely not a beep, beep, beep sound.   It was a single higher pitched 
 noise of the same duration as the others and occurred independently of any 
 action on my part.
 
 BTW I would have had iTunes as another app that was on for at least some of 
 the time.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected 
 as an alert sound?
 
 Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  'Computer 
 Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the computer  around 
 10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't think to check the 
 Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise remained unaltered 
 throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer after 30 minutes, 
 reset Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep after 10 minutes) 
 but then got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been quiet for about an 
 hour since.
 
 How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only 
 foreground on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   
 The only references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help 
 refer to the startup sequence.
 
 What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and make 
 a booking with the repair shop?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2

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Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-12 Thread Tim Law
Alan

Sorry if I've missed this in Ronni's input, but are you sure it's not a 
notification of new mail coming in?

A single noise now and again made me think of an email arriving. You've said 
you have Mail open. Can you close it for a while and see if the sound still 
occurs?   

Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On 12/10/2012, at 2:49 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 I seldom open the widgets - only four are activated: iStat Pro, Calculator, 
 Weather and Stocks.  I can't detect any sound setting associated with them.
 
 Sound source was difficult to pinpoint: it was definitely not a smoke alarm, 
 mobile phone or the fridge door - -.There are four Firewire external 
 drives attached.   One is definitely a likely culprit.  Drives are located on 
 a shelf just above the iMac display.   I re-organised my movie collection 
 yesterday and moved 4-500GB to a new drive.   The background Spotlight 
 Sandbox thingy has been generating many log entries in Console - an assumed 
 consequence of moving the files
 
 I will later change Computer Sleep back to 'Never' and try and stimulate some 
 glass chimes.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:54 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, Funk is the default alert sound in System Preferences Sound - Sound 
 Effects.
 
 Did you have any external drives attached when your heard the 'beep'?
 I would disconnect any external drives from the Mac to eliminate if one of 
 them causing the 'beep'.
 
 Also check any widgets in Dashboard, one of them might give an alert 'beep' 
 sound.
 
 If you are hearing three beeps
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:40 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Sound effects for alerts and whatever should be the installed defaults.   
 Mail new message sound is - New Message Sound.  
 
 My quick read-around on alert tones directed me to the System Preferences  
 Sound - sound effects.  I didn't realise that the highlighted tone was a 
 user set default.  I clicked on each one to hear the sound generated and 
 glass seemed nearest to (but not quite?) the alert I heard.  
 
 Funk is (was?) the tone heard when I try to do an operation that the 
 computer doesn't like.   Is this the default alert?  My problem noise was 
 definitely not a beep, beep, beep sound.   It was a single higher pitched 
 noise of the same duration as the others and occurred independently of any 
 action on my part.
 
 BTW I would have had iTunes as another app that was on for at least some 
 of the time.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected 
 as an alert sound?
 
 Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  
 'Computer Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the 
 computer  around 10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't 
 think to check the Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise 
 remained unaltered throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer 
 after 30 minutes, reset Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep 
 after 10 minutes) but then got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been 
 quiet for about an hour since.
 
 How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only 
 foreground on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   
 The only references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help 
 refer to the startup sequence.
 
 What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and 
 make a booking with the repair shop?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2
 
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Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-12 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Tim

Thanks for your input.   No, my sound is  not associated with emails.  I have 
now determined that the tone is coming from an external hard drive undergoing 
read/write activity, but I cannot precisely locate the trigger event.  The most 
recent alert tone occurred while I was standing up away from the computer.   
I'll post back later with my findings.

Cheers
Alan

On 12/10/2012, at 3:43 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:

Alan

Sorry if I've missed this in Ronni's input, but are you sure it's not a 
notification of new mail coming in?

A single noise now and again made me think of an email arriving. You've said 
you have Mail open. Can you close it for a while and see if the sound still 
occurs?   

Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On 12/10/2012, at 2:49 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 I seldom open the widgets - only four are activated: iStat Pro, Calculator, 
 Weather and Stocks.  I can't detect any sound setting associated with them.
 
 Sound source was difficult to pinpoint: it was definitely not a smoke alarm, 
 mobile phone or the fridge door - -.There are four Firewire external 
 drives attached.   One is definitely a likely culprit.  Drives are located on 
 a shelf just above the iMac display.   I re-organised my movie collection 
 yesterday and moved 4-500GB to a new drive.   The background Spotlight 
 Sandbox thingy has been generating many log entries in Console - an assumed 
 consequence of moving the files
 
 I will later change Computer Sleep back to 'Never' and try and stimulate some 
 glass chimes.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:54 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, Funk is the default alert sound in System Preferences Sound - Sound 
 Effects.
 
 Did you have any external drives attached when your heard the 'beep'?
 I would disconnect any external drives from the Mac to eliminate if one of 
 them causing the 'beep'.
 
 Also check any widgets in Dashboard, one of them might give an alert 'beep' 
 sound.
 
 If you are hearing three beeps
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:40 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Sound effects for alerts and whatever should be the installed defaults.   
 Mail new message sound is - New Message Sound.  
 
 My quick read-around on alert tones directed me to the System Preferences  
 Sound - sound effects.  I didn't realise that the highlighted tone was a 
 user set default.  I clicked on each one to hear the sound generated and 
 glass seemed nearest to (but not quite?) the alert I heard.  
 
 Funk is (was?) the tone heard when I try to do an operation that the 
 computer doesn't like.   Is this the default alert?  My problem noise was 
 definitely not a beep, beep, beep sound.   It was a single higher pitched 
 noise of the same duration as the others and occurred independently of any 
 action on my part.
 
 BTW I would have had iTunes as another app that was on for at least some 
 of the time.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected 
 as an alert sound?
 
 Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  
 'Computer Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the 
 computer  around 10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't 
 think to check the Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise 
 remained unaltered throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer 
 after 30 minutes, reset Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep 
 after 10 minutes) but then got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been 
 quiet for about an hour since.
 
 How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only 
 foreground on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   
 The only references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help 
 refer to the startup sequence.
 
 What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and 
 make a booking with the repair shop?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2
 
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Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-12 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

Thanks for your guidance with this problem.

An update:

The alert tone was coming from an external hard drive.   Specific cause is not 
determined, but I feel there are several pointers.

I had earlier moved half of my movie files to this new external HD.  Spotlight 
was doing its Sandbox indexing thing, and I was checking and amending tags in 
iTunes as many files defaulted to film type and I wanted them to appear as 
TV programs.   The drive was therefore getting fairly constant use.

Drive is a 1TB Seagate Freeagent GoFlex Desk on a Firewire 800 base, made in 
Thailand.  I purchased this in July as a USB3 unit.  I bought a similar drive 
(USB2) a year ago (made in China) plus two Firewire bases.I already have 
two WD My Book Studio 1TB Firewire drives.   The 'beeping' drive is third in 
the Firewire series chain.  The drive in position 4 is used for manual backups 
and has not been used during this exercise.  (I bypassed this unit from 
Spotlight indexing a few days ago.)  

I suspect that Firewire signals are regenerated at each unit in the chain, so 
that units 3 and 4 are not fully active when the computer is woken from sleep 
and Time Machine starts its backup sequence on unit 1.   Whatever, unit 3 
'beeped' just after I woke the Mac after dinner with no new work asked of it 
(whole system had been asleep for over an hour).  It also beeped during my 
iTunes tag editing a couple of times but seemed to handle bulk option copies 
to create the movie links in iTunes with no drama.  Beeps may also be an 
indication of a relatively small buffer size in the GoFlex drive.  Ominously 
the drive occasionally gave mechanical clunks during operation (like a hoon 
driver taking off by dropping the clutch).

I went through a similar file copying exercise 2-3 years ago when I transferred 
movies from smaller USB drives to the new WD Studio Firewire drive.  No 
problems whatsoever.

I will complete my iTunes tagging and allow Spotlight to finish (if it ever 
does) and see how the GoFlex performs after a good rest.  But I have a feeling 
it is not going to be 100 percent reliable over time.I will send a further 
posting if any significant event happens.

Cheers
Alan



On 12/10/2012, at 2:49 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Hi Ronni

I seldom open the widgets - only four are activated: iStat Pro, Calculator, 
Weather and Stocks.  I can't detect any sound setting associated with them.

Sound source was difficult to pinpoint: it was definitely not a smoke alarm, 
mobile phone or the fridge door - -.There are four Firewire external drives 
attached.   One is definitely a likely culprit.  Drives are located on a shelf 
just above the iMac display.   I re-organised my movie collection yesterday and 
moved 4-500GB to a new drive.   The background Spotlight Sandbox thingy has 
been generating many log entries in Console - an assumed consequence of moving 
the files

I will later change Computer Sleep back to 'Never' and try and stimulate some 
glass chimes.

Cheers
Alan

On 12/10/2012, at 1:54 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Alan,

Yes, Funk is the default alert sound in System Preferences Sound - Sound 
Effects.

Did you have any external drives attached when your heard the 'beep'?
I would disconnect any external drives from the Mac to eliminate if one of them 
causing the 'beep'.

Also check any widgets in Dashboard, one of them might give an alert 'beep' 
sound.

If you are hearing three beeps
Cheers,
Ronni

On 12/10/2012, at 1:40 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Sound effects for alerts and whatever should be the installed defaults.   
 Mail new message sound is - New Message Sound.  
 
 My quick read-around on alert tones directed me to the System Preferences  
 Sound - sound effects.  I didn't realise that the highlighted tone was a user 
 set default.  I clicked on each one to hear the sound generated and glass 
 seemed nearest to (but not quite?) the alert I heard.  
 
 Funk is (was?) the tone heard when I try to do an operation that the 
 computer doesn't like.   Is this the default alert?  My problem noise was 
 definitely not a beep, beep, beep sound.   It was a single higher pitched 
 noise of the same duration as the others and occurred independently of any 
 action on my part.
 
 BTW I would have had iTunes as another app that was on for at least some of 
 the time.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected 
 as an alert sound?
 
 Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  'Computer 
 Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 

Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-12 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alan,

 Beeps may also be an indication of a relatively small buffer size in the 
 GoFlex drive.  Ominously the drive occasionally gave mechanical clunks during 
 operation (like a hoon driver taking off by dropping the clutch).

Don't like the sound like 'dropping the clutch'. Is it like it is constantly 
'shutting down and powering up? The drive might emit an error beep before it 
disconnects, and I have heard that daisy chaining another FireWire drive 
sometimes makes this drive beep and disconnect.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 12/10/2012, at 9:29 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for your guidance with this problem.
 
 An update:
 
 The alert tone was coming from an external hard drive.   Specific cause is 
 not determined, but I feel there are several pointers.
 
 I had earlier moved half of my movie files to this new external HD.  
 Spotlight was doing its Sandbox indexing thing, and I was checking and 
 amending tags in iTunes as many files defaulted to film type and I wanted 
 them to appear as TV programs.   The drive was therefore getting fairly 
 constant use.
 
 Drive is a 1TB Seagate Freeagent GoFlex Desk on a Firewire 800 base, made in 
 Thailand.  I purchased this in July as a USB3 unit.  I bought a similar drive 
 (USB2) a year ago (made in China) plus two Firewire bases.I already have 
 two WD My Book Studio 1TB Firewire drives.   The 'beeping' drive is third in 
 the Firewire series chain.  The drive in position 4 is used for manual 
 backups and has not been used during this exercise.  (I bypassed this unit 
 from Spotlight indexing a few days ago.)  
 
 I suspect that Firewire signals are regenerated at each unit in the chain, so 
 that units 3 and 4 are not fully active when the computer is woken from sleep 
 and Time Machine starts its backup sequence on unit 1.   Whatever, unit 3 
 'beeped' just after I woke the Mac after dinner with no new work asked of 
 it (whole system had been asleep for over an hour).  It also beeped during my 
 iTunes tag editing a couple of times but seemed to handle bulk option 
 copies to create the movie links in iTunes with no drama.  Beeps may also be 
 an indication of a relatively small buffer size in the GoFlex drive.  
 Ominously the drive occasionally gave mechanical clunks during operation 
 (like a hoon driver taking off by dropping the clutch).
 
 I went through a similar file copying exercise 2-3 years ago when I 
 transferred movies from smaller USB drives to the new WD Studio Firewire 
 drive.  No problems whatsoever.
 
 I will complete my iTunes tagging and allow Spotlight to finish (if it ever 
 does) and see how the GoFlex performs after a good rest.  But I have a 
 feeling it is not going to be 100 percent reliable over time.I will send 
 a further posting if any significant event happens.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 2:49 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 I seldom open the widgets - only four are activated: iStat Pro, Calculator, 
 Weather and Stocks.  I can't detect any sound setting associated with them.
 
 Sound source was difficult to pinpoint: it was definitely not a smoke alarm, 
 mobile phone or the fridge door - -.There are four Firewire external 
 drives attached.   One is definitely a likely culprit.  Drives are located on 
 a shelf just above the iMac display.   I re-organised my movie collection 
 yesterday and moved 4-500GB to a new drive.   The background Spotlight 
 Sandbox thingy has been generating many log entries in Console - an assumed 
 consequence of moving the files
 
 I will later change Computer Sleep back to 'Never' and try and stimulate some 
 glass chimes.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:54 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, Funk is the default alert sound in System Preferences Sound - Sound 
 Effects.
 
 Did you have any external drives attached when your heard the 'beep'?
 I would disconnect any external drives from the Mac to eliminate if one of 
 them causing the 'beep'.
 
 Also check any widgets in Dashboard, one of them might give an alert 'beep' 
 sound.
 
 If you are hearing three beeps
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:40 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Sound effects for alerts and whatever should be the installed defaults.   
 Mail new message sound is - New Message Sound.  
 
 My quick read-around on alert tones directed me to the System Preferences  
 Sound - sound effects.  I didn't realise that the highlighted tone was a 
 user set default.  I clicked on each one to hear the sound generated and 
 glass seemed nearest to (but not quite?) the alert I heard.  
 
 Funk is (was?) the tone heard when I try to do an operation that the 
 computer doesn't like.   Is this the default alert?  My problem noise was 
 definitely not a beep, beep, beep sound.   It was a single higher pitched 
 noise of the same duration as the others and occurred independently of 

Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-11 Thread Alan Smith
Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
appeared.

Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  'Computer 
Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the computer  around 
10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't think to check the 
Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise remained unaltered 
throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer after 30 minutes, reset 
Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep after 10 minutes) but then 
got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been quiet for about an hour since.

How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only foreground 
on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   The only 
references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help refer to the 
startup sequence.

What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and make a 
booking with the repair shop?

Regards, Alan

Alan Smith
  Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
  iPad2; ATV2













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Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-11 Thread Ronni Brown
In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected as 
an alert sound?

Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  'Computer 
 Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the computer  around 
 10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't think to check the 
 Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise remained unaltered 
 throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer after 30 minutes, 
 reset Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep after 10 minutes) 
 but then got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been quiet for about an 
 hour since.
 
 How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only 
 foreground on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   The 
 only references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help refer 
 to the startup sequence.
 
 What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and make 
 a booking with the repair shop?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
  Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
  iPad2; ATV2
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-11 Thread Ronni Brown
Also meant to ask what sound do you have selected for 'New messages sound' in 
Mail  Preferences  General?

On 12/10/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected 
 as an alert sound?
 
 Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  'Computer 
 Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the computer  around 
 10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't think to check the 
 Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise remained unaltered 
 throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer after 30 minutes, 
 reset Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep after 10 minutes) 
 but then got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been quiet for about an 
 hour since.
 
 How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only 
 foreground on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   
 The only references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help 
 refer to the startup sequence.
 
 What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and make 
 a booking with the repair shop?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2
 

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Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-11 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

Sound effects for alerts and whatever should be the installed defaults.   Mail 
new message sound is - New Message Sound.  

My quick read-around on alert tones directed me to the System Preferences  
Sound - sound effects.  I didn't realise that the highlighted tone was a user 
set default.  I clicked on each one to hear the sound generated and glass 
seemed nearest to (but not quite?) the alert I heard.  

Funk is (was?) the tone heard when I try to do an operation that the computer 
doesn't like.   Is this the default alert?  My problem noise was definitely not 
a beep, beep, beep sound.   It was a single higher pitched noise of the same 
duration as the others and occurred independently of any action on my part.

BTW I would have had iTunes as another app that was on for at least some of 
the time.

Cheers
Alan


On 12/10/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected as 
an alert sound?

Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  'Computer 
 Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the computer  around 
 10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't think to check the 
 Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise remained unaltered 
 throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer after 30 minutes, 
 reset Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep after 10 minutes) 
 but then got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been quiet for about an 
 hour since.
 
 How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only 
 foreground on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   The 
 only references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help refer 
 to the startup sequence.
 
 What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and make 
 a booking with the repair shop?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-11 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Alan,

Yes, Funk is the default alert sound in System Preferences Sound - Sound 
Effects.

Did you have any external drives attached when your heard the 'beep'?
I would disconnect any external drives from the Mac to eliminate if one of them 
causing the 'beep'.

Also check any widgets in Dashboard, one of them might give an alert 'beep' 
sound.

If you are hearing three beeps
Cheers,
Ronni

On 12/10/2012, at 1:40 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Sound effects for alerts and whatever should be the installed defaults.   
 Mail new message sound is - New Message Sound.  
 
 My quick read-around on alert tones directed me to the System Preferences  
 Sound - sound effects.  I didn't realise that the highlighted tone was a user 
 set default.  I clicked on each one to hear the sound generated and glass 
 seemed nearest to (but not quite?) the alert I heard.  
 
 Funk is (was?) the tone heard when I try to do an operation that the 
 computer doesn't like.   Is this the default alert?  My problem noise was 
 definitely not a beep, beep, beep sound.   It was a single higher pitched 
 noise of the same duration as the others and occurred independently of any 
 action on my part.
 
 BTW I would have had iTunes as another app that was on for at least some of 
 the time.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected 
 as an alert sound?
 
 Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  'Computer 
 Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the computer  around 
 10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't think to check the 
 Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise remained unaltered 
 throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer after 30 minutes, 
 reset Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep after 10 minutes) 
 but then got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been quiet for about an 
 hour since.
 
 How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only 
 foreground on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   
 The only references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help 
 refer to the startup sequence.
 
 What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and make 
 a booking with the repair shop?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2

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Re: Mysterious Alert Beep

2012-10-11 Thread Ronni Brown
I'm trying to do too many things at once, and hit send without finishing If 
you are hearing three beeps it could be a faulty RAM stick.

On 12/10/2012, at 1:54 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, Funk is the default alert sound in System Preferences Sound - Sound 
 Effects.
 
 Did you have any external drives attached when your heard the 'beep'?
 I would disconnect any external drives from the Mac to eliminate if one of 
 them causing the 'beep'.
 
 Also check any widgets in Dashboard, one of them might give an alert 'beep' 
 sound.
 
 If you are hearing three beeps
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:40 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Sound effects for alerts and whatever should be the installed defaults.   
 Mail new message sound is - New Message Sound.  
 
 My quick read-around on alert tones directed me to the System Preferences  
 Sound - sound effects.  I didn't realise that the highlighted tone was a 
 user set default.  I clicked on each one to hear the sound generated and 
 glass seemed nearest to (but not quite?) the alert I heard.  
 
 Funk is (was?) the tone heard when I try to do an operation that the 
 computer doesn't like.   Is this the default alert?  My problem noise was 
 definitely not a beep, beep, beep sound.   It was a single higher pitched 
 noise of the same duration as the others and occurred independently of any 
 action on my part.
 
 BTW I would have had iTunes as another app that was on for at least some 
 of the time.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In System Preferences  Sound - Sound Effects, do you have 'Glass' selected 
 as an alert sound?
 
 Or is it a beep, beep, beep sound?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Several times this morning I heard an unknown alert beep at irregular 
 intervals.  Possibly glass tone.  No physical info window with messages 
 appeared.
 
 Computer has been running with System Preferences  Energy Saver  
 'Computer Sleep Never' since about 9pm last night.  I 'Shut Down' the 
 computer  around 10.30am in case it was an overheating problem.   Didn't 
 think to check the Dashboard ProStat Widget until later.   Fan noise 
 remained unaltered throughout, but not fast or loud.   Restarted computer 
 after 30 minutes, reset Energy Saver preferences to Default (Computer Sleep 
 after 10 minutes) but then got another beep about 15 minutes later.   Been 
 quiet for about an hour since.
 
 How do I determine what app may have generated the sound?  The only 
 foreground on apps have been Finder, Mail, Safari, EyeTV and Console.   
 The only references to alert sounds that seemed anyway relevant in Help 
 refer to the startup sequence.
 
 What was it?  Do I ignore it, worry about it, or check my insurance and 
 make a booking with the repair shop?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2
 iPad2; ATV2

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