Re: Launchpad
Ronni Carlo Apparently dragging the apps has been successful and there is now a second page of apps where previously there was only one. Why the apps were not originally shown is anyones guess. Thank you both. Barry On 24/07/2012, at 9:54 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote: Many thanks Ronni I will pass this on and let you know if this solves the query. Carlo I am pretty sure that she is aware that there is more than one page asI am sure she accesses applications over several pages on the iMac. Barry On 24/07/2012, at 9:18 PM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: Hi Barry, Is your friend aware that there is more than one page to Launchpad? By using a two-finger swipe-left on the trackpad of the MacBook Air one can move onto a second (and possibly a third) page of apps. Regards, Carlo PS: just for fun, a four finger grab on the track pad can be using to bring up Launchpad. On 24/07/2012, at 20:47 , Barry Sexstone wrote: I have had a query about launchpad from a friend of mine. As it is not something I usually use I thought I would handball it straight to the experts! She has both n iMac (27 2009) and an 13 Air (2011) both running 10.7.4. On the iMac all her applications both those downloaded through App. Store and those loaded directly from vendors or developers appear on launchpad. On the Macbook Air only those that were part of the installation i.e.. bundled with Lion and thise downloaded from the App Store appear and those downloaded from elsewhere do not appear. Is there a trick to making all applications appear in Launchpad? Thanks in advance Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Launchpad
Hi Barry, You can just select all your Applications in the Applications folder, and drag them onto the Launchpad icon in the dock, they will then appear in Launchpad. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 24/07/2012, at 8:47 PM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: I have had a query about launchpad from a friend of mine. As it is not something I usually use I thought I would handball it straight to the experts! She has both n iMac (27 2009) and an 13 Air (2011) both running 10.7.4. On the iMac all her applications both those downloaded through App. Store and those loaded directly from vendors or developers appear on launchpad. On the Macbook Air only those that were part of the installation i.e.. bundled with Lion and thise downloaded from the App Store appear and those downloaded from elsewhere do not appear. Is there a trick to making all applications appear in Launchpad? Thanks in advance Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Launchpad
Hi Barry, Is your friend aware that there is more than one page to Launchpad? By using a two-finger swipe-left on the trackpad of the MacBook Air one can move onto a second (and possibly a third) page of apps. Regards, Carlo PS: just for fun, a four finger grab on the track pad can be using to bring up Launchpad. On 24/07/2012, at 20:47 , Barry Sexstone wrote: I have had a query about launchpad from a friend of mine. As it is not something I usually use I thought I would handball it straight to the experts! She has both n iMac (27 2009) and an 13 Air (2011) both running 10.7.4. On the iMac all her applications both those downloaded through App. Store and those loaded directly from vendors or developers appear on launchpad. On the Macbook Air only those that were part of the installation i.e.. bundled with Lion and thise downloaded from the App Store appear and those downloaded from elsewhere do not appear. Is there a trick to making all applications appear in Launchpad? Thanks in advance Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Launchpad
Many thanks Ronni I will pass this on and let you know if this solves the query. Carlo I am pretty sure that she is aware that there is more than one page asI am sure she accesses applications over several pages on the iMac. Barry On 24/07/2012, at 9:18 PM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: Hi Barry, Is your friend aware that there is more than one page to Launchpad? By using a two-finger swipe-left on the trackpad of the MacBook Air one can move onto a second (and possibly a third) page of apps. Regards, Carlo PS: just for fun, a four finger grab on the track pad can be using to bring up Launchpad. On 24/07/2012, at 20:47 , Barry Sexstone wrote: I have had a query about launchpad from a friend of mine. As it is not something I usually use I thought I would handball it straight to the experts! She has both n iMac (27 2009) and an 13 Air (2011) both running 10.7.4. On the iMac all her applications both those downloaded through App. Store and those loaded directly from vendors or developers appear on launchpad. On the Macbook Air only those that were part of the installation i.e.. bundled with Lion and thise downloaded from the App Store appear and those downloaded from elsewhere do not appear. Is there a trick to making all applications appear in Launchpad? Thanks in advance Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Launchpad and System Preferences
Hi Shayne, Thanks for your rant. It is always a pleasure to see fresh opinions. Many persons do swear by application launchers such as QuickSilver and Alfred. I prefer not to use them principally so that I am not too disadvantaged when I am on a strange Mac, but also because I try to run a minimalist system to save memory and processor time for a few resource intensive applications that I run. I find a combination of Searchlight, the Dock, and LaunchPad more than adequate to launch both my common applications and my rarely used ones. I have seen users who are more comfortable with third party launchers, so indeed, it is a personal choice. Apple has chosen to ease it's users into some of the new features of Lion allowing you to completely ignore them if you choose and to continue to use Lion as if it were Snow Leopard (SL). The best example of this is Mission Control. Mission Control integrates Exposé, Spaces and Dashboard of SL and adds fullscreen applications, and the moving and addition of spaces on-the-fly. Yet in spite of all these new features you can use a single desktop if you choose as you may have done previously, continue to use the SL keyboard shortcut for Dashboard, and use the old keyboard shortcuts and hot corners for Spaces. It is really a clever interface design to add so many new features transparently and at the same time manage to keep backward compatibility with all the old features it has replaced. So why was Launchpad added if users may not find it all that useful and they can continue to function adequately by ignoring it? The answer, in my opinion based on clues from Apple, is that the ultimate goal is to seamlessly merge iOS and Mac OS. I would guess we may eventually see a System Preference that will allow users of iPads to sit at a Mac and use it in exactly the same way as they use their iPad. The appliance model of the operating system, as used on the iPad and iPhone, if it can be perfected will be revolutionary. While there are tens of millions of iPads in the world and they will soon outnumber Macs, check out the support groups and you will see that questions about iPads are more often that not users looking for the best app to solve a particular problem. The operating system has been pushed level below where the users need to worry about it and rarely seems to become a problem. There is still work to be done in many area, but the iPad is still less than two years old. There may be some future adjustments required when it comes to sharing data between applications and the web, but Apple is studiously avoiding introducing anything like the wild west of a file system that we see on PC operating systems. So far for me, as a frequent user of the iPad, this design decision has been a good one. I have spent zero hours reconfiguring files, deleting preferences, or searching for application conflicts. I will write a future post on Apple's new interface look and feel and what they are aiming for there, but this post is already long. :-) Cheers, Carlo Sent from my iPad On 27/11/2011, at 14:35, S Beach sbscr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. Hi Severin. I admire your willingness to give it a go, and to evaluate it's usefulness objectively. As a switcher from windows (after many years of building and servicing windows Linux machines) I love, really love, my Macs and iDevices but for what it is worth… I don't use Launchpad, or the dock. I find both of them a waste of time and energy. I prefer a keyboard driven app launcher. My weapon of choice is Alfred (www.alfredapp.com). I use the free version set it up so it launches with a double tap of the option key. Then I just have to type the first couple of letters of what I want and Alfred finds it and I can launch it by pressing the enter key. Quick and simple and no manual searching, even for apps that I rarely use. Alfred can also be used to find files, search the web, do quick calculations etc. It's worth noting that the built in Spotlight can be used in a similar way but Alfred is less focused on file searching which enables it to be a little more refined at app launching and some of it's other features. (I don't use the standard finder either but that is another story.) I realise that others won't prefer to use this method but I thought it worthwhile to mention a completely different approach to help think outside the box a little. A Launchpad type feature on iPad etc works well because it is a not a keyboard driven device. I personally don't find the Launchpad useful on a laptop or desktop. Each to his/her own I guess. And for the record begin rant I don't agree with Steve Jobs strong opinion when he launched the original mac that you don't need cursor arrow keys if you have a mouse. Why wast time moving your hand from the keyboard to the mouse if you are doing a lot of typing. Mice a great compliment to a keyboard not a replacement for it. end rant
Re: Launchpad and System Preferences
Hi Severin, On 26/11/2011, at 1:27 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: With Snow Leopard I had ALL the applications that I ever used as icons in the dock, a long line up but very easy and convenient. All my regulars were set as startup items and hidden. With Lion I am trying to go with the flow/modernise/get with it/update or whatever and use Launchpad. To this end only running applications whether hidden or not show on the dock. You are aware of course login items take up resources by eating CPU cycles, reserving memory for their use, or running background processes that you may not even use. The current Macs handle having more apps open at startup much better than previous models. System Preferences is an anomaly. Though set as a startup item it starts and then vanishes whether set as hidden or not. Has anyone any comment on this? In Lion, SystemPreferences, iPhoto, iMovie, App Store all quit when the window closes because you can't do anything without a window in these apps. I am not convinced that Launchpad has any advantages over my earlier setup Your applications are neatly laid out in a grid of icons, which you can rearrange to your heart’s content—by default, all of OS X’s included applications are on the first screen, with third-party apps relegated to any subsequent screens. You can quickly switch between screens with a two-finger swipe, either by using the left- and right-arrow keys on the keyboard, or by clicking the little dots that represent your home screens. By default, all of the apps in your Mac’s /Applications/Utilities folder appear in a separate Utilities folder inside Launchpad. Creating additional folders is as easy as dragging one icon and dropping it on top of another; OS X will automatically name the folder based on its contents, but you can change it to whatever you like. You can then rearrange folders just like app icons, but you can’t drop one folder inside another. But using Launchpad is optional as you can still run applications using the Dock and other methods. Only you can work out what suits your work style best ... ‘what works for you’ A very thorough writeup on Lion worth reading through is Mac OS X 10.7 Lion: the Ars Technica review”. Its 19 pages, but well worth reading it all. http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/1 Read about Lion’s Lion feature called Automatic Termination” on Page 8 http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/8#process-model Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.7.2 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Launchpad and System Preferences
Thanks for that explanation, Ronni. My original Snow Leopard configuration had everything I normally wanted in the dock, fitted comfortably. A few are permanently open from startup. I think I will revert to that - one click in the dock opens the application, with launchpad there is at least one more click. I will arrange launchpad as a second string for rarely used items. I will peruse those articles with interest and I am sure with benefit also! Best wishes Severin On 26/11/2011, at 5:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Severin, On 26/11/2011, at 1:27 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: With Snow Leopard I had ALL the applications that I ever used as icons in the dock, a long line up but very easy and convenient. All my regulars were set as startup items and hidden. With Lion I am trying to go with the flow/modernise/get with it/update or whatever and use Launchpad. To this end only running applications whether hidden or not show on the dock. You are aware of course login items take up resources by eating CPU cycles, reserving memory for their use, or running background processes that you may not even use. The current Macs handle having more apps open at startup much better than previous models. System Preferences is an anomaly. Though set as a startup item it starts and then vanishes whether set as hidden or not. Has anyone any comment on this? In Lion, SystemPreferences, iPhoto, iMovie, App Store all quit when the window closes because you can't do anything without a window in these apps. I am not convinced that Launchpad has any advantages over my earlier setup Your applications are neatly laid out in a grid of icons, which you can rearrange to your heart’s content—by default, all of OS X’s included applications are on the first screen, with third-party apps relegated to any subsequent screens. You can quickly switch between screens with a two-finger swipe, either by using the left- and right-arrow keys on the keyboard, or by clicking the little dots that represent your home screens. By default, all of the apps in your Mac’s /Applications/Utilities folder appear in a separate Utilities folder inside Launchpad. Creating additional folders is as easy as dragging one icon and dropping it on top of another; OS X will automatically name the folder based on its contents, but you can change it to whatever you like. You can then rearrange folders just like app icons, but you can’t drop one folder inside another. But using Launchpad is optional as you can still run applications using the Dock and other methods. Only you can work out what suits your work style best ... ‘what works for you’ A very thorough writeup on Lion worth reading through is Mac OS X 10.7 Lion: the Ars Technica review”. Its 19 pages, but well worth reading it all. http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/1 Read about Lion’s Lion feature called Automatic Termination” on Page 8 http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/8#process-model Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.7.2 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Launchpad and System Preferences
Hi all. Hi Severin. I admire your willingness to give it a go, and to evaluate it's usefulness objectively. As a switcher from windows (after many years of building and servicing windows Linux machines) I love, really love, my Macs and iDevices but for what it is worth… I don't use Launchpad, or the dock. I find both of them a waste of time and energy. I prefer a keyboard driven app launcher. My weapon of choice is Alfred (www.alfredapp.com). I use the free version set it up so it launches with a double tap of the option key. Then I just have to type the first couple of letters of what I want and Alfred finds it and I can launch it by pressing the enter key. Quick and simple and no manual searching, even for apps that I rarely use. Alfred can also be used to find files, search the web, do quick calculations etc. It's worth noting that the built in Spotlight can be used in a similar way but Alfred is less focused on file searching which enables it to be a little more refined at app launching and some of it's other features. (I don't use the standard finder either but that is another story.) I realise that others won't prefer to use this method but I thought it worthwhile to mention a completely different approach to help think outside the box a little. A Launchpad type feature on iPad etc works well because it is a not a keyboard driven device. I personally don't find the Launchpad useful on a laptop or desktop. Each to his/her own I guess. And for the record begin rant I don't agree with Steve Jobs strong opinion when he launched the original mac that you don't need cursor arrow keys if you have a mouse. Why wast time moving your hand from the keyboard to the mouse if you are doing a lot of typing. Mice a great compliment to a keyboard not a replacement for it. end rant Anyway it seems I'm not the only one who thinks this Steve relented as it looks like the arrow keys are here to stay for the moment - (lets see where voice recognition technology leads us). The key point - lets not feel obliged to use Launchpad if it or any other feature, just because apple thought it was a good idea, if does not help our workflow. Regards Shayne Beach P.S. And my usual rant… Grey is not a colour - Apple! Well it is; but there are still plenty of others you can use. :-) On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.auwrote: Thanks for that explanation, Ronni. My original Snow Leopard configuration had everything I normally wanted in the dock, fitted comfortably. A few are permanently open from startup. I think I will revert to that - one click in the dock opens the application, with launchpad there is at least one more click. I will arrange launchpad as a second string for rarely used items. I will peruse those articles with interest and I am sure with benefit also! Best wishes Severin On 26/11/2011, at 5:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Severin, On 26/11/2011, at 1:27 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: With Snow Leopard I had ALL the applications that I ever used as icons in the dock, a long line up but very easy and convenient. All my regulars were set as startup items and hidden. With Lion I am trying to go with the flow/modernise/get with it/update or whatever and use Launchpad. To this end only running applications whether hidden or not show on the dock. You are aware of course login items take up resources by eating CPU cycles, reserving memory for their use, or running background processes that you may not even use. The current Macs handle having more apps open at startup much better than previous models. System Preferences is an anomaly. Though set as a startup item it starts and then vanishes whether set as hidden or not. Has anyone any comment on this? In Lion, SystemPreferences, iPhoto, iMovie, App Store all quit when the window closes because you can't do anything without a window in these apps. I am not convinced that Launchpad has any advantages over my earlier setup Your applications are neatly laid out in a grid of icons, which you can rearrange to your heart’s content—by default, all of OS X’s included applications are on the first screen, with third-party apps relegated to any subsequent screens. You can quickly switch between screens with a two-finger swipe, either by using the left- and right-arrow keys on the keyboard, or by clicking the little dots that represent your home screens. By default, all of the apps in your Mac’s /Applications/Utilities folder appear in a separate Utilities folder inside Launchpad. Creating additional folders is as easy as dragging one icon and dropping it on top of another; OS X will automatically name the folder based on its contents, but you can change it to whatever you like. You can then rearrange folders just like app icons, but you can’t drop one folder inside another. But using Launchpad is optional as you can still run applications using the Dock and
Re: Launchpad and System Preferences
Hi Severin, not the perfect solution, but you can Command/ click and arrange the icons in Launchpad how you want them arranged, ie the ones you use a lot can be on the first page of Launchpad, or, alternatively just drag drop them into the Dock Bill ( just learning about Lion !! ) On 26/11/2011, at 1:27 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: With Snow Leopard I had ALL the applications that I ever used as icons in the dock, a long line up but very easy and convenient. All my regulars were set as startup items and hidden. With Lion I am trying to go with the flow/modernise/get with it/update or whatever and use Launchpad. To this end only running applications whether hidden or not show on the dock. System Preferences is an anomaly. Though set as a startup item it starts and then vanishes whether set as hidden or not. Has anyone any comment on this? I am not convinced that Launchpad has any advantages over my earlier setup Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Launchpad and System Preferences
Yes, I have already done that! On 26/11/2011, at 1:27 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: With Snow Leopard I had ALL the applications that I ever used as icons in the dock, a long line up but very easy and convenient. All my regulars were set as startup items and hidden. With Lion I am trying to go with the flow/modernise/get with it/update or whatever and use Launchpad. To this end only running applications whether hidden or not show on the dock. System Preferences is an anomaly. Though set as a startup item it starts and then vanishes whether set as hidden or not. Has anyone any comment on this? I am not convinced that Launchpad has any advantages over my earlier setup Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
