Re: Running a virtual OSX machine in parallels.

2013-10-27 Thread Neil Houghton
Aaah, OK,  Ronni.

Thanks for pointing out the flaw in my plan ;o)


So it looks like sticking with SL as the main OS until I have
updated/replaced any non compatible Software.

Option 1) still looks like a goer though. I already have Parallels - so the
upgrade to version 9 is $50 and, given that Mavericks is free, that sounds
fair enough to try out Mavericks.

I may wait a little while to get a few more jobs out of the way and let the
dust settle on the new release ;o)



Another option for me would possibly be installing Mavericks on a separate
partition ­ I have a partition that currently is barely used and could
easily be cleared out. Then I presumably could boot into either system to
see how it went. Do you see any issues with this approach?




Cheers




Neil
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on 26/10/13 21:45, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Neil,
 
 Just a quick reply.
 1) run Mavericks in a VM on my existing OSX 10.6.8 setup - to have a play
 and get used to it and see how I like it.
 
 You would require Parallels Desktop 9 to install Mavericks in a VM.
 
 2) to update to Mavericks and run SL in a VM - to allow me to continue to
 use any non-compatible legacy apps
 
 You can install and run Snow Leopard Server in VM in Parallels.
 You can't install Snow Leopard Client in any virtual machine (including
 Parallels Desktop for Mac) it is not allowed by Apple¹s License Policy.
 Parallels does not offer any workaround to be able to accomplish this, nor do
 they recommend to try it on your own.
 
 Plus... You would have to manually modify system files to trick the VM app
 into thinking that you're installing Snow Leopard Server when you're really
 just installing Snow Leopard.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 26 Oct 2013, at 8:26 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:
 
 OK, I'm not really a luddite but I'm still running Snow Leopard  ;o)
 
 There are a number of reasons for this - I REALLY like Snow Leopard, I
 wasn't impressed when I had a play with Lion, Snow Leopard provides a
 constant OSX across our 4 machines (desktops and laptop across 2 locations)
 including a G5 iMac that won't go past SL and, probably most importantly,
 I'm still running some legacy apps that are not compatible with Lion 
 later.
 
 HOWEVER, I do realise that, sooner or later, I will have to move on -
 address my out of date software and work out my update path/timing.
 
 I am familiar with running Windows in a VM on my Mac (with Parallels) and
 one thing I just noticed was that Parallels now seems to allow you to run
 OSX in a virtual machine - which seems to offer a couple of attractive ways
 to ease into upgradeland more gradually:
 
 1) run Mavericks in a VM on my existing OSX 10.6.8 setup - to have a play
 and get used to it and see how I like it.
 
 2) to update to Mavericks and run SL in a VM - to allow me to continue to
 use any non-compatible legacy apps
 
 3) when I'm completely happy with Mavericks (or later) and have replaced all
 my old non compatible software, I can ditch any redundant VMs.
 
 So... I was just wondering - has anyone run OSX in a VM under Parallels and,
 if so, how did you find it?
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil

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Re: Running a virtual OSX machine in parallels.

2013-10-27 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Neil,

What are the details of your Mac?
Comments and another couple of options below in situ.
 

 On 27 Oct 2013, at 2:11 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:
 
 Aaah, OK,  Ronni.
 
 Thanks for pointing out the flaw in my plan ;o)
 
 
 So it looks like sticking with SL as the main OS until I have 
 updated/replaced any non compatible Software.

Another Option: 
Do a Bootable SuperDuper Clone of your Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8
onto an external drive and after testing you can boot from the SD Clone.
Eject the Clone.
Then download the Mavericks installer from the App store and upgrade to 
Mavericks.

 Option 1) still looks like a goer though. I already have Parallels - so the 
 upgrade to version 9 is $50 and, given that Mavericks is free, that sounds 
 fair enough to try out Mavericks.

I guess so, but I have not heard any reports of anyone running Windows  
Mavericks in Parallels. My other Option below ;-)
 
 I may wait a little while to get a few more jobs out of the way and let the 
 dust settle on the new release ;o)
 
 
 
 Another option for me would possibly be installing Mavericks on a separate 
 partition – I have a partition that currently is barely used and could easily 
 be cleared out. Then I presumably could boot into either system to see how it 
 went. Do you see any issues with this approach?

As long as the Partition is Formatted 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)'  uses 
GUID Partition Table Partition Map Scheme... I can't see any issues.

This option would possible be better than installing Mavericks in Parallels 9.
The drawbacks of virtualisation is the cost and performance. 
The advantage of partitioning the hard drive is that the operating system will 
be more responsive and you’ve not spent any money on a third-party application 
in order to do it.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad 4

 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 
 on 26/10/13 21:45, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Neil,
 
 Just a quick reply.
 1) run Mavericks in a VM on my existing OSX 10.6.8 setup - to have a play
 and get used to it and see how I like it.
 
 You would require Parallels Desktop 9 to install Mavericks in a VM.
 
 2) to update to Mavericks and run SL in a VM - to allow me to continue to
 use any non-compatible legacy apps
 
 You can install and run Snow Leopard Server in VM in Parallels.
 You can't install Snow Leopard Client in any virtual machine (including 
 Parallels Desktop for Mac) it is not allowed by Apple’s License Policy.
 Parallels does not offer any workaround to be able to accomplish this, nor do 
 they recommend to try it on your own. 
 
 Plus... You would have to manually modify system files to trick the VM app 
 into thinking that you're installing Snow Leopard Server when you're really 
 just installing Snow Leopard.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 26 Oct 2013, at 8:26 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:
 
 OK, I'm not really a luddite but I'm still running Snow Leopard  ;o)
 
 There are a number of reasons for this - I REALLY like Snow Leopard, I
 wasn't impressed when I had a play with Lion, Snow Leopard provides a
 constant OSX across our 4 machines (desktops and laptop across 2 locations)
 including a G5 iMac that won't go past SL and, probably most importantly,
 I'm still running some legacy apps that are not compatible with Lion 
 later.
 
 HOWEVER, I do realise that, sooner or later, I will have to move on -
 address my out of date software and work out my update path/timing.
 
 I am familiar with running Windows in a VM on my Mac (with Parallels) and
 one thing I just noticed was that Parallels now seems to allow you to run
 OSX in a virtual machine - which seems to offer a couple of attractive ways
 to ease into upgradeland more gradually:
 
 1) run Mavericks in a VM on my existing OSX 10.6.8 setup - to have a play
 and get used to it and see how I like it.
 
 2) to update to Mavericks and run SL in a VM - to allow me to continue to
 use any non-compatible legacy apps
 
 3) when I'm completely happy with Mavericks (or later) and have replaced all
 my old non compatible software, I can ditch any redundant VMs.
 
 So... I was just wondering - has anyone run OSX in a VM under Parallels and,
 if so, how did you find it?
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
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Running a virtual OSX machine in parallels.

2013-10-26 Thread Neil Houghton
OK, I'm not really a luddite but I'm still running Snow Leopard  ;o)

There are a number of reasons for this - I REALLY like Snow Leopard, I
wasn't impressed when I had a play with Lion, Snow Leopard provides a
constant OSX across our 4 machines (desktops and laptop across 2 locations)
including a G5 iMac that won't go past SL and, probably most importantly,
I'm still running some legacy apps that are not compatible with Lion 
later.

HOWEVER, I do realise that, sooner or later, I will have to move on -
address my out of date software and work out my update path/timing.

I am familiar with running Windows in a VM on my Mac (with Parallels) and
one thing I just noticed was that Parallels now seems to allow you to run
OSX in a virtual machine - which seems to offer a couple of attractive ways
to ease into upgradeland more gradually:

1) run Mavericks in a VM on my existing OSX 10.6.8 setup - to have a play
and get used to it and see how I like it.

2) to update to Mavericks and run SL in a VM - to allow me to continue to
use any non-compatible legacy apps

3) when I'm completely happy with Mavericks (or later) and have replaced all
my old non compatible software, I can ditch any redundant VMs.

So... I was just wondering - has anyone run OSX in a VM under Parallels and,
if so, how did you find it?


Cheers


Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


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Re: Running a virtual OSX machine in parallels.

2013-10-26 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Neil,

Just a quick reply.
 1) run Mavericks in a VM on my existing OSX 10.6.8 setup - to have a play
 and get used to it and see how I like it.

You would require Parallels Desktop 9 to install Mavericks in a VM.

 2) to update to Mavericks and run SL in a VM - to allow me to continue to
 use any non-compatible legacy apps

You can install and run Snow Leopard Server in VM in Parallels.
You can't install Snow Leopard Client in any virtual machine (including 
Parallels Desktop for Mac) it is not allowed by Apple’s License Policy.
Parallels does not offer any workaround to be able to accomplish this, nor do 
they recommend to try it on your own. 

Plus... You would have to manually modify system files to trick the VM app into 
thinking that you're installing Snow Leopard Server when you're really just 
installing Snow Leopard.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 26 Oct 2013, at 8:26 pm, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:
 
 OK, I'm not really a luddite but I'm still running Snow Leopard  ;o)
 
 There are a number of reasons for this - I REALLY like Snow Leopard, I
 wasn't impressed when I had a play with Lion, Snow Leopard provides a
 constant OSX across our 4 machines (desktops and laptop across 2 locations)
 including a G5 iMac that won't go past SL and, probably most importantly,
 I'm still running some legacy apps that are not compatible with Lion 
 later.
 
 HOWEVER, I do realise that, sooner or later, I will have to move on -
 address my out of date software and work out my update path/timing.
 
 I am familiar with running Windows in a VM on my Mac (with Parallels) and
 one thing I just noticed was that Parallels now seems to allow you to run
 OSX in a virtual machine - which seems to offer a couple of attractive ways
 to ease into upgradeland more gradually:
 
 1) run Mavericks in a VM on my existing OSX 10.6.8 setup - to have a play
 and get used to it and see how I like it.
 
 2) to update to Mavericks and run SL in a VM - to allow me to continue to
 use any non-compatible legacy apps
 
 3) when I'm completely happy with Mavericks (or later) and have replaced all
 my old non compatible software, I can ditch any redundant VMs.
 
 So... I was just wondering - has anyone run OSX in a VM under Parallels and,
 if so, how did you find it?
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
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