Re: SSD external harddrives

[Adam Lippiatt]

I would be interested too. 

I use HDD for backup purposes ($ spent on reliability not speed) but was 
considering for a while some of these new SSDs to put my primary data on 
instead of relying on the spinning drive portion of the fusion drive in my late 
2013 iMac, but judged it not worth it as it only has thunderbolt 1 ports which 
don’t give you access to the little non powered thunderbolt 3 cases that are 
quite popular and speedy now. 

I hear that quality SSDs last long enough these days not to matter.  (SSDs do 
lose storage capacity over time while spinning drives do not. However the 
degradation is slow and doesn’t seem to matter for general use so far as I 
know.)

As you have everything backed up, a failed SSD shouldn’t be much of a bother. 

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 3:53 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> No they were normal drives - sorry overlooked the SSD in your email.
> Would be interested to learn if you buy, how much etc.
> 
> Jewels
> 
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:25 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jewels
>> Were they SSD or normal drives?
>> Peter
>> 
 On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter
>>> 
>>> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  
>>> Luckily I managed to transfer the files to another
>>> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jewels
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
 
 Hi everyone
 Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external 
 hard drives?
 Kind regards
 Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Peter Curtis]

Hi
Thanks for all the info, much appreciated.
I’ll look up Officeworks Stephen.
Kind regards
Peter

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:42 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter.
> I bought a Samsung SSD from Officeworks for quite a reasonable price about 6 
> months ago.
> I use it for my monthly “safe” backup.
> What used to take a long time with a Hard Drive (I use Superduper), now takes 
> 7 minutes and then back in my safe.
> Might be worth checking Officworks website.
> 
> I think I paid $134.00 for a 500GB.
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 4:09 pm, Adam Lippiatt  wrote:
>> 
>> I would be interested too. 
>> 
>> I use HDD for backup purposes ($ spent on reliability not speed) but was 
>> considering for a while some of these new SSDs to put my primary data on 
>> instead of relying on the spinning drive portion of the fusion drive in my 
>> late 2013 iMac, but judged it not worth it as it only has thunderbolt 1 
>> ports which don’t give you access to the little non powered thunderbolt 3 
>> cases that are quite popular and speedy now. 
>> 
>> I hear that quality SSDs last long enough these days not to matter.  (SSDs 
>> do lose storage capacity over time while spinning drives do not. However the 
>> degradation is slow and doesn’t seem to matter for general use so far as I 
>> know.)
>> 
>> As you have everything backed up, a failed SSD shouldn’t be much of a 
>> bother. 
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 3:53 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No they were normal drives - sorry overlooked the SSD in your email.
>>> Would be interested to learn if you buy, how much etc.
>>> 
>>> Jewels
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:25 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
 
 Hi Jewels
 Were they SSD or normal drives?
 Peter
 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter
> 
> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  
> Luckily I managed to transfer the files to another
> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
> 
> Hope that helps
> 
> Cheers
> Jewels
> 
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external 
>> hard drives?
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
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Fwd: SSD external harddrives

[Stephen Chape]

Hi again folks.
I just checked Officeworks.
They have a Samsung 500GB SSD for $124.00

Samsung 500GB Portable Solid State Drive T5

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> From: Stephen Chape 
> Subject: Re: SSD external harddrives
> Date: 7 Aug 2020 at 5:42:45 pm AWST
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> Hi Peter.
> I bought a Samsung SSD from Officeworks for quite a reasonable price about 6 
> months ago.
> I use it for my monthly “safe” backup.
> What used to take a long time with a Hard Drive (I use Superduper), now takes 
> 7 minutes and then back in my safe.
> Might be worth checking Officworks website.
> 
> I think I paid $134.00 for a 500GB.
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 4:09 pm, Adam Lippiatt > <mailto:adam.lippi...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I would be interested too. 
>> 
>> I use HDD for backup purposes ($ spent on reliability not speed) but was 
>> considering for a while some of these new SSDs to put my primary data on 
>> instead of relying on the spinning drive portion of the fusion drive in my 
>> late 2013 iMac, but judged it not worth it as it only has thunderbolt 1 
>> ports which don’t give you access to the little non powered thunderbolt 3 
>> cases that are quite popular and speedy now. 
>> 
>> I hear that quality SSDs last long enough these days not to matter.  (SSDs 
>> do lose storage capacity over time while spinning drives do not. However the 
>> degradation is slow and doesn’t seem to matter for general use so far as I 
>> know.)
>> 
>> As you have everything backed up, a failed SSD shouldn’t be much of a 
>> bother. 
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 3:53 pm, Julie Bedford >> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No they were normal drives - sorry overlooked the SSD in your email.
>>> Would be interested to learn if you buy, how much etc.
>>> 
>>> Jewels
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:25 pm, Peter Curtis >>> <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jewels
>>>> Were they SSD or normal drives?
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford >>>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  
>>>>> Luckily I managed to transfer the files to another
>>>>> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jewels
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis >>>>> <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external 
>>>>>> hard drives?
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Peter.
I bought a Samsung SSD from Officeworks for quite a reasonable price about 6 
months ago.
I use it for my monthly “safe” backup.
What used to take a long time with a Hard Drive (I use Superduper), now takes 7 
minutes and then back in my safe.
Might be worth checking Officworks website.

I think I paid $134.00 for a 500GB.

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 4:09 pm, Adam Lippiatt  wrote:
> 
> I would be interested too. 
> 
> I use HDD for backup purposes ($ spent on reliability not speed) but was 
> considering for a while some of these new SSDs to put my primary data on 
> instead of relying on the spinning drive portion of the fusion drive in my 
> late 2013 iMac, but judged it not worth it as it only has thunderbolt 1 ports 
> which don’t give you access to the little non powered thunderbolt 3 cases 
> that are quite popular and speedy now. 
> 
> I hear that quality SSDs last long enough these days not to matter.  (SSDs do 
> lose storage capacity over time while spinning drives do not. However the 
> degradation is slow and doesn’t seem to matter for general use so far as I 
> know.)
> 
> As you have everything backed up, a failed SSD shouldn’t be much of a bother. 
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 3:53 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> No they were normal drives - sorry overlooked the SSD in your email.
>> Would be interested to learn if you buy, how much etc.
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:25 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jewels
>>> Were they SSD or normal drives?
>>> Peter
>>> 
> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
 
 Hi Peter
 
 I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  
 Luckily I managed to transfer the files to another
 external one.  Both were Toshiba.
 
 Hope that helps
 
 Cheers
 Jewels
 
 
> On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
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> Hi everyone
> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external 
> hard drives?
> Kind regards
> Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Julie Bedford]

No they were normal drives - sorry overlooked the SSD in your email.
Would be interested to learn if you buy, how much etc.

Jewels


> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:25 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels
> Were they SSD or normal drives?
> Peter
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter
>> 
>> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  Luckily 
>> I managed to transfer the files to another
>> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
>> 
>> Hope that helps
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone
>>> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external 
>>> hard drives?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Pete, sorry I misread Peter’s email.  They were HDDs.  I may myself look 
at the SSD external drive, but always thought they were hugely more expensive.  
Always have an SDD on my Mac though.

Thanks

Jewels


> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:28 pm, Peter  wrote:
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> Hi Julie that is lucky you were able to transfer data before anything got 
> lost. Peter’s original question however relates to whether external SSD 
> drives are more reliable and it wasn’t clear from your email if your drives 
> were HDD (mechanical spinning disc drives) or SSD (solid state drives). 
> 
> My experience has been to trust SSD devices more than HDD drive devices. It 
> stands to reason that something mechanical and moving in principle is going 
> to fail at some point where solid state devices have potentially an 
> indefinite life - though there may be reasons that can’t be. SSD is likely to 
> be more robust against accidental dropping too where an HDD not so likely. 
> SSD drives are likely quicker too though can be a function of USB connection 
> generation (2.0 or 3.0).
> 
> I would lean to SSD Peter if I was buying now but I have quite a number of 
> HDD external drives and they have been reliable for many years for me. Always 
> a good policy to have backup of all data too - including your externally 
> attached drives  - to Time Machine so you can sleep at night about the 
> potential loss of data not being disastrous. The price of HDD external drives 
> is so very cheap now too where SSD a bit dearer for the same capacity. Always 
> go a good named brand.
> 
> Pete.
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter
>> 
>> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  Luckily 
>> I managed to transfer the files to another
>> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
>> 
>> Hope that helps
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis >> > wrote:
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>>> Hi everyone
>>> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external 
>>> hard drives?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Peter]

Hi Julie that is lucky you were able to transfer data before anything got lost. 
Peter’s original question however relates to whether external SSD drives are 
more reliable and it wasn’t clear from your email if your drives were HDD 
(mechanical spinning disc drives) or SSD (solid state drives). 

My experience has been to trust SSD devices more than HDD drive devices. It 
stands to reason that something mechanical and moving in principle is going to 
fail at some point where solid state devices have potentially an indefinite 
life - though there may be reasons that can’t be. SSD is likely to be more 
robust against accidental dropping too where an HDD not so likely. SSD drives 
are likely quicker too though can be a function of USB connection generation 
(2.0 or 3.0).

I would lean to SSD Peter if I was buying now but I have quite a number of HDD 
external drives and they have been reliable for many years for me. Always a 
good policy to have backup of all data too - including your externally attached 
drives  - to Time Machine so you can sleep at night about the potential loss of 
data not being disastrous. The price of HDD external drives is so very cheap 
now too where SSD a bit dearer for the same capacity. Always go a good named 
brand.

Pete.

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter
> 
> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  Luckily 
> I managed to transfer the files to another
> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
> 
> Hope that helps
> 
> Cheers
> Jewels
> 
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 11:43 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
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>> Hi everyone
>> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external hard 
>> drives?
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Peter Curtis]

Hi Jewels
Were they SSD or normal drives?
Peter

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 1:11 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
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> Hi Peter
> 
> I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  Luckily 
> I managed to transfer the files to another
> external one.  Both were Toshiba.
> 
> Hope that helps
> 
> Cheers
> Jewels
> 
> 
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>> Hi everyone
>> Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external hard 
>> drives?
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
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Re: SSD external harddrives

[Julie Bedford]

Hi Peter

I have just had 2 external hard drives fail me - about 2 years old.  Luckily I 
managed to transfer the files to another
external one.  Both were Toshiba.

Hope that helps

Cheers
Jewels


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SSD external harddrives

[Peter Curtis]

Hi everyone
Are the external ssd hard drives more reliable than the normal external hard 
drives?
Kind regards
Peter
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