Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-30 Thread David Noel

-- Ah, nostalgia! We started off with 512k Macs and Pagemaker 0.9.
One of the achievements was running PageMaker 3 with just an internal
and an external floppy drives -- no hard drive -- not recommended or
even suggested as possible by the software maker (?Aldus at that
time?). We also made our own fonts, including Serbocroat with many
strange accented characters, for a particular client's job.

David Noel
2009 Aug 30

===

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Roger Kortasrkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Guys

 Ready,Set,Go! X - 7.7.7 is still available its now sold as shareware and I
 believe quite good :)

 Roger

 On 28/08/2009, at 1:21 PM, Peter Bull wrote:



 My first Mac was a 512k RAM with two floppy drives (no hard disk) and a
 separate numeric keypad.  it was black and white of course with the 9 inch
 screen. I bought it second hand from UWA for about $2300!!! We coupled it up
 to a little dot matrix printer (remember them!!) and used it in my printing
 business. I then started publishing a small magazine using Ready Set Go 3
 software to do what was called Desktop Publishing. Laser printers had just
 come out and were priced at $11000 - that's right eleven thousand bucks. Too
 much, so I would go to Computerland in St Georges Tce and pay them $1 per
 page to print out the artwork. It worked very well.

 Next was a Mac Classic which had a 40Mb hard drive which I thought would
 never fill up (it did), then a LC475, one of the nicest looking Macs AND it
 had a colour screen!! I then bought a new QMS mono laser printer for about
 $2600 and did all the artwork for my printing clients, still using Ready Set
 Go. That was great software, small and fast, but was out-marketed by
 PageMaker which became InDesign.

 A second hand Power PC was next, then a jellybean iMac, then an eMac, and
 I am typing this on an Intel iMac with 4gigs of RAM , 24 inch monitor and a
 320gig hard disk. I am now using InDesign CS4 which does  a lot more of
 course than the 1980's software, but I don't think that things happen any
 quicker. Bigger, faster computers seem to get slowed down by bigger
 software.

 I can't help thinking that if Macs were much cheaper in the early days
 that Apple would have sold millions more, and Bill Gates would be just
 another Harvard dropout. And of course, the world would be a happier and
 friendlier place because people would be far less stressed than they are
 today due to the frustration and downright ugliness of PC's, Windows and MS
 Office (especially Word)!!


 Peter Bull
 pb...@bbnet.com.au



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-28 Thread Mervyn Giuliana Bond


I used Ready Set Go from about 1987 until the late 1990s.
One of the greatest packages that I have used.  Its format 
capabilities for nested indents, paragraph widths, copy and paste a 
style etc have not been repeated in the monsters that devoured it.

Merv

My first Mac was a 512k RAM with two floppy drives (no hard disk) 
and a separate numeric keypad.  it was black and white of course 
with the 9 inch screen. I bought it second hand from UWA for about 
$2300!!! We coupled it up to a little dot matrix printer (remember 
them!!) and used it in my printing business. I then started 
publishing a small magazine using Ready Set Go 3 software to do what 
was called Desktop Publishing. Laser printers had just come out and 
were priced at $11000 - that's right eleven thousand bucks. Too 
much, so I would go to Computerland in St Georges Tce and pay them 
$1 per page to print out the artwork. It worked very well.


Next was a Mac Classic which had a 40Mb hard drive which I thought 
would never fill up (it did), then a LC475, one of the nicest 
looking Macs AND it had a colour screen!! I then bought a new QMS 
mono laser printer for about $2600 and did all the artwork for my 
printing clients, still using Ready Set Go. That was great software, 
small and fast, but was out-marketed by PageMaker which became 
InDesign.


A second hand Power PC was next, then a jellybean iMac, then an 
eMac, and I am typing this on an Intel iMac with 4gigs of RAM , 24 
inch monitor and a 320gig hard disk. I am now using InDesign CS4 
which does  a lot more of course than the 1980's software, but I 
don't think that things happen any quicker. Bigger, faster computers 
seem to get slowed down by bigger software.


I can't help thinking that if Macs were much cheaper in the early 
days that Apple would have sold millions more, and Bill Gates would 
be just another Harvard dropout. And of course, the world would be a 
happier and friendlier place because people would be far less 
stressed than they are today due to the frustration and downright 
ugliness of PC's, Windows and MS Office (especially Word)!!



Peter Bull
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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-28 Thread Roger Kortas


Hi Guys

Ready,Set,Go! X - 7.7.7 is still available its now sold as shareware  
and I believe quite good :)


Roger

On 28/08/2009, at 1:21 PM, Peter Bull wrote:




My first Mac was a 512k RAM with two floppy drives (no hard disk)  
and a separate numeric keypad.  it was black and white of course  
with the 9 inch screen. I bought it second hand from UWA for about  
$2300!!! We coupled it up to a little dot matrix printer (remember  
them!!) and used it in my printing business. I then started  
publishing a small magazine using Ready Set Go 3 software to do what  
was called Desktop Publishing. Laser printers had just come out and  
were priced at $11000 - that's right eleven thousand bucks. Too  
much, so I would go to Computerland in St Georges Tce and pay them  
$1 per page to print out the artwork. It worked very well.


Next was a Mac Classic which had a 40Mb hard drive which I thought  
would never fill up (it did), then a LC475, one of the nicest  
looking Macs AND it had a colour screen!! I then bought a new QMS  
mono laser printer for about $2600 and did all the artwork for my  
printing clients, still using Ready Set Go. That was great software,  
small and fast, but was out-marketed by PageMaker which became  
InDesign.


A second hand Power PC was next, then a jellybean iMac, then an  
eMac, and I am typing this on an Intel iMac with 4gigs of RAM , 24  
inch monitor and a 320gig hard disk. I am now using InDesign CS4  
which does  a lot more of course than the 1980's software, but I  
don't think that things happen any quicker. Bigger, faster computers  
seem to get slowed down by bigger software.


I can't help thinking that if Macs were much cheaper in the early  
days that Apple would have sold millions more, and Bill Gates would  
be just another Harvard dropout. And of course, the world would be a  
happier and friendlier place because people would be far less  
stressed than they are today due to the frustration and downright  
ugliness of PC's, Windows and MS Office (especially Word)!!



Peter Bull
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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-28 Thread Mervyn Giuliana Bond


Hi
I downloaded a test version - won't print until I buy.
The features that I spoke about are still there.  Image import is excellent.
But, it is  a ppc program, not universal nor intel.
However, according to a reference posted earlier, there are quite a 
number of universal applications including Adobe Photoshop Elements 
6.0, that won't run on OSX10.6.

I guess I won't be moving to Snow Leopard in a hurry.
Cheers
Merv



Hi Guys

Ready,Set,Go! X - 7.7.7 is still available its now sold as shareware 
and I believe quite good :)


Roger

On 28/08/2009, at 1:21 PM, Peter Bull wrote:




My first Mac was a 512k RAM with two floppy drives (no hard disk) 
and a separate numeric keypad.  it was black and white of course 
with the 9 inch screen. I bought it second hand from UWA for about 
$2300!!! We coupled it up to a little dot matrix printer (remember 
them!!) and used it in my printing business. I then started 
publishing a small magazine using Ready Set Go 3 software to do 
what was called Desktop Publishing. Laser printers had just come 
out and were priced at $11000 - that's right eleven thousand bucks. 
Too much, so I would go to Computerland in St Georges Tce and pay 
them $1 per page to print out the artwork. It worked very well.


Next was a Mac Classic which had a 40Mb hard drive which I thought 
would never fill up (it did), then a LC475, one of the nicest 
looking Macs AND it had a colour screen!! I then bought a new QMS 
mono laser printer for about $2600 and did all the artwork for my 
printing clients, still using Ready Set Go. That was great 
software, small and fast, but was out-marketed by PageMaker which 
became InDesign.


A second hand Power PC was next, then a jellybean iMac, then an 
eMac, and I am typing this on an Intel iMac with 4gigs of RAM , 24 
inch monitor and a 320gig hard disk. I am now using InDesign CS4 
which does  a lot more of course than the 1980's software, but I 
don't think that things happen any quicker. Bigger, faster 
computers seem to get slowed down by bigger software.


I can't help thinking that if Macs were much cheaper in the early 
days that Apple would have sold millions more, and Bill Gates would 
be just another Harvard dropout. And of course, the world would be 
a happier and friendlier place because people would be far less 
stressed than they are today due to the frustration and downright 
ugliness of PC's, Windows and MS Office (especially Word)!!



Peter Bull
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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-28 Thread Mervyn Giuliana Bond


Forgot to say RSG 7.7.7 is backward compatible to RSG 4.5 which in 
turn is backward compatible to RSG 3.0.

Merv


At 11:32 AM +0800 29/8/09, Mervyn  Giuliana Bond wrote:

Hi
I downloaded a test version - won't print until I buy.
The features that I spoke about are still there.  Image import is excellent.
But, it is  a ppc program, not universal nor intel.
However, according to a reference posted earlier, there are quite a 
number of universal applications including Adobe Photoshop Elements 
6.0, that won't run on OSX10.6.

I guess I won't be moving to Snow Leopard in a hurry.
Cheers
Merv



Hi Guys

Ready,Set,Go! X - 7.7.7 is still available its now sold as 
shareware and I believe quite good :)


Roger

On 28/08/2009, at 1:21 PM, Peter Bull wrote:




My first Mac was a 512k RAM with two floppy drives (no hard disk) 
and a separate numeric keypad.  it was black and white of course 
with the 9 inch screen. I bought it second hand from UWA for about 
$2300!!! We coupled it up to a little dot matrix printer (remember 
them!!) and used it in my printing business. I then started 
publishing a small magazine using Ready Set Go 3 software to do 
what was called Desktop Publishing. Laser printers had just come 
out and were priced at $11000 - that's right eleven thousand 
bucks. Too much, so I would go to Computerland in St Georges Tce 
and pay them $1 per page to print out the artwork. It worked very 
well.


Next was a Mac Classic which had a 40Mb hard drive which I thought 
would never fill up (it did), then a LC475, one of the nicest 
looking Macs AND it had a colour screen!! I then bought a new QMS 
mono laser printer for about $2600 and did all the artwork for my 
printing clients, still using Ready Set Go. That was great 
software, small and fast, but was out-marketed by PageMaker which 
became InDesign.


A second hand Power PC was next, then a jellybean iMac, then an 
eMac, and I am typing this on an Intel iMac with 4gigs of RAM , 24 
inch monitor and a 320gig hard disk. I am now using InDesign CS4 
which does  a lot more of course than the 1980's software, but I 
don't think that things happen any quicker. Bigger, faster 
computers seem to get slowed down by bigger software.


I can't help thinking that if Macs were much cheaper in the early 
days that Apple would have sold millions more, and Bill Gates 
would be just another Harvard dropout. And of course, the world 
would be a happier and friendlier place because people would be 
far less stressed than they are today due to the frustration and 
downright ugliness of PC's, Windows and MS Office (especially 
Word)!!



Peter Bull
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Re: Some Mac nostalgia

2009-08-27 Thread kevin Lock


In 1986 at Willetton SHS the Social Studies Department was loaned a  
512 Mac by the SS Association.  Most of the staff at Willetton went  
to the SS Office to take a look and I was hooked.Had to have one.


We bought a secondhand 128k machine from Nigel Dolan at UWA for  
$2200.  Loved it!


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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-27 Thread thefrogs


First machine Apple 2  1987 first laptop Apple portable - or luggable  
with the wet celled battery and 3 mg Ram -then the 512 'I think  black  
and white with one disk and a massive 40meg Hard drive and a really  
slow dot matrix printer. I drooled over the Se and then brought a  
colour classic. I miss mac Paint and hypercard but nothing else-  
except the donkey to carry the portable

tom samson
On 27/08/2009, at 7:02 AM, lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:



omg, hypercard, clarisworks (homepage to be exact)...

oh why do we have to upgrade... had all my fun on my old macs

my 1st mac was one of the last b/w ones, then i had one of the 1st  
thick, black brick chunk colour ones (oh, cant remember the models  
of those 2), but they were running os9 i think and it was bliss... :)


--lynn--


- Original Message -
From: Robert Howells rhowe...@arach.net.au
To: wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 8:25:40 PM GMT +08:00 Perth
Subject: Some Mac NOSTALGIA


HI List ,

Just sharing a little experience with you ..

Remember When

We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing
screens

when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or
64 Mb of Ram
the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and
the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu  ?

REMEMBER  

SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye

FAST FORWARD

and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :-

Broadband
RAM 1 GB
Hard Drive 500 Gb
CPU  1.8 Ghz
on a G4

???  Imagine ???

Yep !   It goes like a rocket !

Cheers


Bob



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Bull



My first Mac was a 512k RAM with two floppy drives (no hard disk) and  
a separate numeric keypad.  it was black and white of course with the  
9 inch screen. I bought it second hand from UWA for about $2300!!! We  
coupled it up to a little dot matrix printer (remember them!!) and  
used it in my printing business. I then started publishing a small  
magazine using Ready Set Go 3 software to do what was called Desktop  
Publishing. Laser printers had just come out and were priced at $11000  
- that's right eleven thousand bucks. Too much, so I would go to  
Computerland in St Georges Tce and pay them $1 per page to print out  
the artwork. It worked very well.


Next was a Mac Classic which had a 40Mb hard drive which I thought  
would never fill up (it did), then a LC475, one of the nicest looking  
Macs AND it had a colour screen!! I then bought a new QMS mono laser  
printer for about $2600 and did all the artwork for my printing  
clients, still using Ready Set Go. That was great software, small and  
fast, but was out-marketed by PageMaker which became InDesign.


A second hand Power PC was next, then a jellybean iMac, then an eMac,  
and I am typing this on an Intel iMac with 4gigs of RAM , 24 inch  
monitor and a 320gig hard disk. I am now using InDesign CS4 which  
does  a lot more of course than the 1980's software, but I don't think  
that things happen any quicker. Bigger, faster computers seem to get  
slowed down by bigger software.


I can't help thinking that if Macs were much cheaper in the early days  
that Apple would have sold millions more, and Bill Gates would be just  
another Harvard dropout. And of course, the world would be a happier  
and friendlier place because people would be far less stressed than  
they are today due to the frustration and downright ugliness of PC's,  
Windows and MS Office (especially Word)!!



Peter Bull
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Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread Robert Howells


HI List ,

Just sharing a little experience with you ..

Remember When

We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing  
screens


when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or  
64 Mb of Ram

the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and
the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu  ?

REMEMBER  

SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye

FAST FORWARD

and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :-

Broadband
RAM 1 GB
Hard Drive 500 Gb
CPU  1.8 Ghz
on a G4

???  Imagine ???

Yep !   It goes like a rocket !

Cheers


Bob



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread Craig Bruce


I miss playing with hypercard on my old performa 5200 :)
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On 26/08/2009, at 8:25 PM, Robert Howells wrote:



HI List ,

Just sharing a little experience with you ..

Remember When

We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing  
screens


when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or  
64 Mb of Ram

the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and
the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu  ?

REMEMBER  

SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye

FAST FORWARD

and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :-

Broadband
RAM 1 GB
Hard Drive 500 Gb
CPU  1.8 Ghz
on a G4

???  Imagine ???

Yep !   It goes like a rocket !

Cheers


Bob



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread Bill Parker


If only Bob. My first one was an SE   or some such name. 
Megabytes were unheard of.   Nothing to do with telephones,  ethernet  
or anything else. The little beast just sat there on the desk but  
it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS  machine my neighbour  
had.   But I had hypercard!


And,  I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software  is  
better.


Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road  ...ey up  
Obadiah...


Bill

On 26/08/2009, at 8:25 PM, Robert Howells wrote:



HI List ,

Just sharing a little experience with you ..

Remember When

We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing  
screens


when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or  
64 Mb of Ram

the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and
the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu  ?

REMEMBER  

SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye

FAST FORWARD

and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :-

Broadband
RAM 1 GB
Hard Drive 500 Gb
CPU  1.8 Ghz
on a G4

???  Imagine ???

Yep !   It goes like a rocket !

Cheers


Bob



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread Rob Phillips


Hmmm. And I started in 1987 (I think), programming with a Mac 512k with 
2 400k floppy drives - no hard disk.  The OS fitted on one floppy, the 
compiler fitted on another, and my program was on a third.  Most of my 
time was spent swapping floppies.  Nevertheless, the graphical user 
interface was a huge step up on the text based mainframes I was used to 
using.


And then there are the multimedia and animation programs our team 
developed in the 1990s with Supercard.  These absolutely fly now - too 
fast to be meaningful...


And then I had to do some work on a Windows XP machine the other day.  
Mac OS4 or 5 (from 1987) was definitely more friendly!


Back to my zimmer frame.

Rob

Robert Howells wrote:


HI List ,

Just sharing a little experience with you ..

Remember When

We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing 
screens


when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 
64 Mb of Ram

the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and
the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu  ?

REMEMBER  

SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye

FAST FORWARD

and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :-

Broadband
RAM 1 GB
Hard Drive 500 Gb
CPU  1.8 Ghz
on a G4

???  Imagine ???

Yep !   It goes like a rocket !

Cheers


Bob



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread Joe Mastrella
Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid just
under 2000  dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided to upgrade
the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of ram.That's right, 20
mega bites
of ram. We have come a long way since then.

Cheers, Joe

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote:


 If only Bob. My first one was an SE   or some such name.Megabytes
 were unheard of.   Nothing to do with telephones,  ethernet or anything
 else. The little beast just sat there on the desk but it was BLOODY
 sight easier to use than the DOS  machine my neighbour had.   But I had
 hypercard!

 And,  I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software  is
 better.

 Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road  ...ey up
 Obadiah...

 Bill

 On 26/08/2009, at 8:25 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


 HI List ,

 Just sharing a little experience with you ..

 Remember When

 We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing screens

 when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 64 Mb
 of Ram
 the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and
 the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu  ?

 REMEMBER  

 SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye

 FAST FORWARD

 and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :-

 Broadband
 RAM 1 GB
 Hard Drive 500 Gb
 CPU  1.8 Ghz
 on a G4

 ???  Imagine ???

 Yep !   It goes like a rocket !

 Cheers


 Bob



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread lynnkoh

omg, hypercard, clarisworks (homepage to be exact)...

oh why do we have to upgrade... had all my fun on my old macs

my 1st mac was one of the last b/w ones, then i had one of the 1st thick, black 
brick chunk colour ones (oh, cant remember the models of those 2), but they 
were running os9 i think and it was bliss... :)

--lynn--


- Original Message -
From: Robert Howells rhowe...@arach.net.au
To: wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 8:25:40 PM GMT +08:00 Perth
Subject: Some Mac NOSTALGIA


HI List ,

Just sharing a little experience with you ..

Remember When

We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing  
screens

when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or  
64 Mb of Ram
the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and
the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu  ?

REMEMBER  

SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye

FAST FORWARD

and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :-

Broadband
RAM 1 GB
Hard Drive 500 Gb
CPU  1.8 Ghz
on a G4

???  Imagine ???

Yep !   It goes like a rocket !

Cheers


Bob



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread rkor...@iinet.net.au

I'm about to show my age here :)

My first Apple was an Apple II+

Then:

IIe
IIGS
Mac+
SE
6100
7200
BW G3
G4
G5
and now 3 macbook Pro's

And does anyone remember the Apple Credit card?

Roger




On Thu Aug 27  7:02 , lynn...@westnet.com.au sent:


omg, hypercard, clarisworks (homepage to be exact)...

oh why do we have to upgrade... had all my fun on my old macs

my 1st mac was one of the last b/w ones, then i had one of the 1st thick, black
brick chunk colour ones (oh, cant remember the models of those 2), but they were
running os9 i think and it was bliss... :)

--lynn--


- Original Message -
From: Robert Howells rhowe...@arach.net.au
To: wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 8:25:40 PM GMT +08:00 Perth
Subject: Some Mac NOSTALGIA


HI List ,

Just sharing a little experience with you ..

Remember When

We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing  
screens

when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or  
64 Mb of Ram
the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and
the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu  ?

REMEMBER  

SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye

FAST FORWARD

and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :-

Broadband
RAM 1 GB
Hard Drive 500 Gb
CPU  1.8 Ghz
on a G4

???  Imagine ???

Yep !   It goes like a rocket !

Cheers


Bob



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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread Peter Hinchliffe



On 27/08/2009, at 7:11 AM, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:


I'm about to show my age here :)

My first Apple was an Apple II+




Mine was an Apple //c in 1984. We bought in preference to the brand  
new Mac at the time because it had a lot more educational software for  
it, and the RAM was the same in each (128Kb! - not Mb!!). I also  
remember buying a 1 Megabyte RAM Card for an Apple IIgs I was using  
several years later, paying around $700 dollars for it and being happy  
with that! This card was populated with a veritable forest of 16k  
chips. Of course, that was in the days when Bill Gates was confidently  
predicting that no personal computer would ever need more that 640K of  
RAM.


Ahh, memories...

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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread James / Hans Kunz

but can you imagine in 1979
apple II+ with 64k ram  a great floppy drive with 150kbytes capacity  
 dos 3.3 operating system


then in 1984 the apple IIc with 128k ram  floppy drives with 720k  
capacity, prodos 9 operating system

there was appleworks allready well known
and the first steps to a graphical interface/mouse appeared in the  
updates


James

SAD Technic
Video Productions, Electronic repairs
U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl
Bayswater WA 6053
+618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132
http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas
skype: barleeway
over 40 years in electronics

On 26/08/2009, at 22:53, Joe Mastrella wrote:

Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid  
just under 2000  dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided  
to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of  
ram.That's right, 20 mega bites

of ram. We have come a long way since then.

Cheers, Joe

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au  
wrote:


If only Bob. My first one was an SE   or some such name. 
Megabytes were unheard of.   Nothing to do with telephones,   
ethernet or anything else. The little beast just sat there on  
the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS   
machine my neighbour had.   But I had hypercard!


And,  I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software   
is better.


Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road  ...ey  
up Obadiah...


Bill










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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread David Peake
While we're all getting nostalgic, if anyone has a Mac Plus, Mac SE,  
or similar vintage Apple Mac sitting dormant under a coating of dust  
in their shed, I'd be more than happy (as a collector) to offer a good  
home and/or donation if required.


Used to love our old Apple IIGS, so simple but (don't laugh)  
impressive at the time. Does anyone remember the popular PrintShop  
application and other older software by Broderbund?


David.



On 27/08/2009, at 11:21 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:


but can you imagine in 1979
apple II+ with 64k ram  a great floppy drive with 150kbytes  
capacity  dos 3.3 operating system


then in 1984 the apple IIc with 128k ram  floppy drives with 720k  
capacity, prodos 9 operating system

there was appleworks allready well known
and the first steps to a graphical interface/mouse appeared in the  
updates


James

SAD Technic
Video Productions, Electronic repairs
U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl
Bayswater WA 6053
+618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132
http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas
skype: barleeway
over 40 years in electronics

On 26/08/2009, at 22:53, Joe Mastrella wrote:

Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid  
just under 2000  dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided  
to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of  
ram.That's right, 20 mega bites

of ram. We have come a long way since then.

Cheers, Joe

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au  
wrote:


If only Bob. My first one was an SE   or some such name. 
Megabytes were unheard of.   Nothing to do with telephones,   
ethernet or anything else. The little beast just sat there on  
the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS   
machine my neighbour had.   But I had hypercard!


And,  I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software   
is better.


Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road  ...ey  
up Obadiah...


Bill











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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread rkor...@iinet.net.au

The IIGS was a very nice machine excellent sound and graphics at the time :)

I remember buying a CPM card for my Apple II + in 1979 and also a 128k ram 
card!!!

Roger


On Thu Aug 27 11:55 , David Peake dpe...@printforce.com.au sent:

While we're all getting nostalgic, if anyone has a Mac Plus, Mac SE, or similar
vintage Apple Mac sitting dormant under a coating of dust in their shed, I'd be
more than happy (as a collector) to offer a good home and/or donation if 
required.
Used to love our old Apple IIGS, so simple but (don't laugh) impressive at the
time. Does anyone remember the popular PrintShop application and other older
software by Broderbund?
David.


On 27/08/2009, at 11:21 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: but can you imagine in
1979apple II+ with 64k ram  a great floppy drive with 150kbytes capacity  dos
3.3 operating system
then in 1984 the apple IIc with 128k ram  floppy drives with 720k
capacity, prodos 9 operating systemthere was appleworks allready well knownand
the first steps to a graphical interface/mouse appeared in the updates
James
SAD TechnicVideo Productions, Electronic repairsU3 / 6 Chalkley PlBayswater WA
6053+618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421
132http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddasskype: barleewayover 40 years in electronics
On 26/08/2009, at 22:53, Joe Mastrella wrote:Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX
32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid just under 2000  dollars US including an HP
printer. Then I decided to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega
bites of ram.That's right, 20 mega bites
 of ram. We have come a long way since then.

Cheers, Joe

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 If only Bob.     My first one was an SE   or some such name.   
  Megabytes were
unheard of.   Nothing to do with telephones,  ethernet or anything else.   
  The
little beast just sat there on the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use
than the DOS  machine my neighbour had.   But I had hypercard!
 
 And,  I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software  is 
 better.
 
 Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road  ...ey up 
 Obadiah...
 
 Bill
 

 
 

 
  
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Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA

2009-08-26 Thread Clyde McLennan
Yes, can remember the Apple II with its 5 1/4 inch floppies with  
affection.


  I was working at the Nowra (NSW) paper mills and implemented a mill  
shop floor data collection using about a dozen apple computers  
networked together using a Corvus network with a central disc drive.  
The network was 1 mb/sec and was an early form like Ethernet.


  All software was written by me in Apple DOS or 7502 assembler.

  The system was operational for about 5 years and served the mill  
well.  Then replaced by the new boy on the market - IBM personal  
computers.



Cheers  ... Clyde



On 27/08/2009, at 11:21 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:


but can you imagine in 1979
apple II+ with 64k ram  a great floppy drive with 150kbytes  
capacity  dos 3.3 operating system


then in 1984 the apple IIc with 128k ram  floppy drives with 720k  
capacity, prodos 9 operating system

there was appleworks allready well known
and the first steps to a graphical interface/mouse appeared in the  
updates


James

SAD Technic
Video Productions, Electronic repairs
U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl
Bayswater WA 6053
+618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132
http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas
skype: barleeway
over 40 years in electronics

On 26/08/2009, at 22:53, Joe Mastrella wrote:

Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid  
just under 2000  dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided  
to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of  
ram.That's right, 20 mega bites

of ram. We have come a long way since then.

Cheers, Joe

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au  
wrote:


If only Bob. My first one was an SE   or some such name. 
Megabytes were unheard of.   Nothing to do with telephones,   
ethernet or anything else. The little beast just sat there on  
the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS   
machine my neighbour had.   But I had hypercard!


And,  I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software   
is better.


Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road  ...ey  
up Obadiah...


Bill











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