Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most polluted river in the world!!!l

2010-08-04 Terurut Topik L.Meilany
MUI kan melakukan penelitian kalo ada usulan, pertanyaan, desakan umat.
Memangnya langsung gitu air PDAM itu dari kalinya, yg bener aje pak.
Air mengalir ke Jatiluhur dulu kemudian baru ke Pejompongan di situ di 
bersihkan baru mengalir ke pipa2 pelanggan.
Tapi memang belum layak diminum langsung.
Kalo masih ada yg najis2, bangkai apapun kan timbul penyakit.
Ini kan juga seperti ikan lele, mas yg harus dikarantina supaya suci.

Seperti dulu Wolter Monginsidi katanya ditangkap Belanda lantaran meracuni PDAM 
dengan berbagai macam bangkai.
Hingga air yg mengalir ke rumah rumah orang Belanda menimbulkan penyakit.

Kalo pakai air tanah sesekali juga harus di periksakan ke lab air.
Air tanah zaman sekarang mungkin justru nggak bagus untuk kesehatan.
Di tempat saya perumahan punya PAM sendiri [air tanah], tapi saya selalu rutin 
priksakan air itu ke Pejompongan.

Kalo komunitas halal malahan lebih hati2 lagi ; Bukan cuma masalah air.
Tas, sepatu, sofa, jok mobil, pelana kuda kalo dari kulit babi juga dihindari.

salam, 
l.meilany


  - Original Message - 
  From: kmj...@indosat.net.id 
  To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most polluted river in the 
world!!!l



  Pertanyaan soal haram atau tidak kan melihat bahwa MUI 
  mengeluarkan fatwa haram terhadap vaksin yang dalam proses 
  pemurniannya menggunakan ensim babi tanpa ensim itu ikut 
  masuk menjadi komponen vaksin yang dibuat. Senada dengan 
  logika bahwa vaksin yang dalam proses melewati ensim babi, 
  maka air PDAM yang menggunakan air sungai yang bisa saja 
  tercemar benda-benda haram termasuk babi, apakah juga 
  haram. Misalnya limbah dari dapur orang yang memasak babi, 
  dsb.Mestinya MUI melakukan penelusuran dan penelitian 
  terhadap hal itu. 
  Bahwa saya tidak pakai air PDAM bisa saja, karena 
  Indonesia belum seperti AS tempat anda bermukim yang setiap 
  rumah tersambung pipa air bersih. Penduduk Jakarta yang 
  sudah mendapat air dari PDAM mungkin maksimal baru 60%.
  KM

  Original Message
  From: soega...@gmail.com
  Date: 02/08/2010 0:31 
  To: 
  Subj: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most 
  polluted river in the world!!!l

  jadi pak KM selalu pakai Evian dari pegunungan Alpen gitu? 
  :-)

  Ya tinggal diuji saja air PDAM tersebut apa saja 
  kandungannya.
  Kalau tidak ada unsur haram (apa sih unsur haram itu, 
  masak
  airnya mengandung babi?),
  tapi mengandung logam berat ya sebaiknya tidak diminum.
  Daripada ribet soal halal atau haram,
  mending teliti saja kandungan air PDAM,
  kandungan polusi sungan Citarum,
  selidiki perijinan pembuangan limbahnya,
  siapa yang mengeluarkan ijinnya,
  tuntut ke pengadilan, hukum dan denda mereka yang merusak 
  lingkungan dan
  kesehatan masyarakat!

  On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:44 AM, kmj...@indosat.net.id <
  kmj...@indosat.net.id> wrote:

  >
  >
  > Ha ha ha, saya gak kebagian pipa PDAM. Tapi kalau 
  bertamu
  > ke rumah teman mungkin saja minum air PDAM. Terlepas 
  diukur
  > atau tidak pertanyaan saya, mungkin saja seandainya di
  > dalam pencemar itu ada unsur-unsur yang haram, apakah 
  air
  > PDAM jadi haram?
  > KM
  >
  >
  > Original Message
  > From: soega...@gmail.com 
  > 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most polluted river in the world!!!l

2010-08-01 Terurut Topik kmj...@indosat.net.id
Pertanyaan soal haram atau tidak kan melihat bahwa MUI 
mengeluarkan fatwa haram terhadap vaksin yang dalam proses 
pemurniannya menggunakan ensim babi tanpa ensim itu ikut 
masuk menjadi komponen vaksin yang dibuat. Senada dengan 
logika bahwa vaksin yang dalam proses melewati ensim babi, 
maka air PDAM yang menggunakan air sungai yang bisa saja 
tercemar benda-benda haram termasuk babi, apakah juga 
haram. Misalnya limbah dari dapur orang yang memasak babi, 
dsb.Mestinya MUI melakukan penelusuran dan penelitian 
terhadap hal itu. 
Bahwa saya tidak pakai air PDAM bisa saja, karena 
Indonesia belum seperti AS tempat anda bermukim yang setiap 
rumah tersambung pipa air bersih. Penduduk Jakarta yang 
sudah mendapat air dari PDAM mungkin maksimal baru 60%.
KM

Original Message
From: soega...@gmail.com
Date: 02/08/2010 0:31 
To: 
Subj: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most 
polluted river in the   world!!!l

jadi pak KM selalu pakai Evian dari pegunungan Alpen gitu? 
:-)

Ya tinggal diuji saja air PDAM tersebut apa saja 
kandungannya.
Kalau tidak ada unsur haram (apa sih unsur haram itu, 
masak
airnya mengandung babi?),
tapi mengandung logam berat ya sebaiknya tidak diminum.
Daripada ribet soal halal atau haram,
mending teliti saja kandungan air PDAM,
kandungan polusi sungan Citarum,
selidiki perijinan pembuangan limbahnya,
siapa yang mengeluarkan ijinnya,
tuntut ke pengadilan, hukum dan denda mereka yang merusak 
lingkungan dan
kesehatan masyarakat!


On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:44 AM, kmj...@indosat.net.id <
kmj...@indosat.net.id> wrote:

>
>
> Ha ha ha, saya gak kebagian pipa PDAM. Tapi kalau 
bertamu
> ke rumah teman mungkin saja minum air PDAM. Terlepas 
diukur
> atau tidak pertanyaan saya, mungkin saja seandainya di
> dalam pencemar itu ada unsur-unsur yang haram, apakah 
air
> PDAM jadi haram?
> KM
>
>
> Original Message
> From: soega...@gmail.com 
> Date: 01/08/2010 5:59
> To: >
> Subj: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most
> polluted river in the world!!!l
>
> Pak KM,
>
> ngga minum atau masak dari air PDAM?
>
> Penulis bilangnya " is quite possibly
> the most polluted river in the world. "
>
> eh kirain sudah diukur, hampir aja aku bangga :-)
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM, kmj...@indosat.net.
id<
> kmj...@indosat.net.id > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Sungai Citarum adalah sungai paling tercemar di dunia.
> > Lagi-lagi kita menjadi juara.
> > Pertanyaan saya: haram atau halalkah menjadikan air
> sungai
> > Citarum sebagai sumber PDAM yang kemudian akan diminum
> dan
> > untuk memasak masyarakat?
> > KM
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: HB Pradhana H
> >
> > The World’s Most Polluted River
> > At the first glance, what do you see in the picture
> > above? I thought the man was on a rubbish dump, and I
> > thought the boat was one of the rubbish. Until I read
> > further, only then I realize that it’s actually not a
> > rubbish dump, but a very polluted river. The picture
> above
> > shows no sign of a river to me, to you too I suppose.
> The
> > man above is actually collecting things like plastic
> > bottles to be recycled and can probably earn a pound 
or
> two
> > a week by doing so. People now fish for rubbish at the
> > river, instead of fish.
> > Here’re two more picture that suggest that’s really a
> > river, the one with water:
> > Polluted River
> > If you’ve been wondering what river is that and its
> > location, the river is called Citarum located in
> Indonesia
> > ..
> > The GOVT is responsible for causing this. It’s nothing
> > different from -- murder. The water is still used now
> for
> > daily activities – drinking for example.
> > Citarum River Indonesia Covered in Garbage Photo
> > The 200-mile long Citarum River in Indonesia hosts 
more
> > than 500 factories along its banks and is quite 
possibly
> > the most polluted river in the world.
> > There is so much garbage coating the surface that in
> many
> > places you can't see the water, and it is more
> profitable
> > to forage for garbage than making a living fishing the
> > river, though you do risk catching a nasty disease by
> > spending any time in it.
> >
> > 
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most polluted river in the world!!!l

2010-08-01 Terurut Topik Dwi Soegardi
jadi pak KM selalu pakai Evian dari pegunungan Alpen gitu? :-)

Ya tinggal diuji saja air PDAM tersebut apa saja kandungannya.
Kalau tidak ada unsur haram (apa sih unsur haram itu, masak
airnya mengandung babi?),
tapi mengandung logam berat ya sebaiknya tidak diminum.
Daripada ribet soal halal atau haram,
mending teliti saja kandungan air PDAM,
kandungan polusi sungan Citarum,
selidiki perijinan pembuangan limbahnya,
siapa yang mengeluarkan ijinnya,
tuntut ke pengadilan, hukum dan denda mereka yang merusak lingkungan dan
kesehatan masyarakat!


On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:44 AM, kmj...@indosat.net.id <
kmj...@indosat.net.id> wrote:

>
>
> Ha ha ha, saya gak kebagian pipa PDAM. Tapi kalau bertamu
> ke rumah teman mungkin saja minum air PDAM. Terlepas diukur
> atau tidak pertanyaan saya, mungkin saja seandainya di
> dalam pencemar itu ada unsur-unsur yang haram, apakah air
> PDAM jadi haram?
> KM
>
>
> Original Message
> From: soega...@gmail.com 
> Date: 01/08/2010 5:59
> To: >
> Subj: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most
> polluted river in the world!!!l
>
> Pak KM,
>
> ngga minum atau masak dari air PDAM?
>
> Penulis bilangnya " is quite possibly
> the most polluted river in the world. "
>
> eh kirain sudah diukur, hampir aja aku bangga :-)
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM, 
> kmj...@indosat.net.id<
> kmj...@indosat.net.id > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Sungai Citarum adalah sungai paling tercemar di dunia.
> > Lagi-lagi kita menjadi juara.
> > Pertanyaan saya: haram atau halalkah menjadikan air
> sungai
> > Citarum sebagai sumber PDAM yang kemudian akan diminum
> dan
> > untuk memasak masyarakat?
> > KM
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: HB Pradhana H
> >
> > The World’s Most Polluted River
> > At the first glance, what do you see in the picture
> > above? I thought the man was on a rubbish dump, and I
> > thought the boat was one of the rubbish. Until I read
> > further, only then I realize that it’s actually not a
> > rubbish dump, but a very polluted river. The picture
> above
> > shows no sign of a river to me, to you too I suppose.
> The
> > man above is actually collecting things like plastic
> > bottles to be recycled and can probably earn a pound or
> two
> > a week by doing so. People now fish for rubbish at the
> > river, instead of fish.
> > Here’re two more picture that suggest that’s really a
> > river, the one with water:
> > Polluted River
> > If you’ve been wondering what river is that and its
> > location, the river is called Citarum located in
> Indonesia
> > ..
> > The GOVT is responsible for causing this. It’s nothing
> > different from -- murder. The water is still used now
> for
> > daily activities – drinking for example.
> > Citarum River Indonesia Covered in Garbage Photo
> > The 200-mile long Citarum River in Indonesia hosts more
> > than 500 factories along its banks and is quite possibly
> > the most polluted river in the world.
> > There is so much garbage coating the surface that in
> many
> > places you can't see the water, and it is more
> profitable
> > to forage for garbage than making a living fishing the
> > river, though you do risk catching a nasty disease by
> > spending any time in it.
> >
> > 
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most polluted river in the world!!!l

2010-07-31 Terurut Topik kmj...@indosat.net.id
Ha ha ha, saya gak kebagian pipa PDAM. Tapi kalau bertamu 
ke rumah teman mungkin saja minum air PDAM. Terlepas diukur 
atau tidak pertanyaan saya, mungkin saja seandainya di 
dalam pencemar itu ada unsur-unsur yang haram, apakah air 
PDAM jadi haram?
KM

Original Message
From: soega...@gmail.com
Date: 01/08/2010 5:59 
To: 
Subj: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most 
polluted river in the   world!!!l

Pak KM,

ngga minum atau masak dari air PDAM?

Penulis bilangnya "  is quite possibly
the most polluted river in the world. "

eh kirain sudah diukur, hampir aja aku bangga :-)



On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM, kmj...@indosat.net.id <
kmj...@indosat.net.id> wrote:

>
>
>
> Sungai Citarum adalah sungai paling tercemar di dunia.
> Lagi-lagi kita menjadi juara.
> Pertanyaan saya: haram atau halalkah menjadikan air 
sungai
> Citarum sebagai sumber PDAM yang kemudian akan diminum 
dan
> untuk memasak masyarakat?
> KM
>
> - Original Message -
> From: HB Pradhana H
>
> The World’s Most Polluted River
> At the first glance, what do you see in the picture
> above? I thought the man was on a rubbish dump, and I
> thought the boat was one of the rubbish. Until I read
> further, only then I realize that it’s actually not a
> rubbish dump, but a very polluted river. The picture 
above
> shows no sign of a river to me, to you too I suppose. 
The
> man above is actually collecting things like plastic
> bottles to be recycled and can probably earn a pound or 
two
> a week by doing so. People now fish for rubbish at the
> river, instead of fish.
> Here’re two more picture that suggest that’s really a
> river, the one with water:
> Polluted River
> If you’ve been wondering what river is that and its
> location, the river is called Citarum located in 
Indonesia
> ..
> The GOVT is responsible for causing this. It’s nothing
> different from -- murder. The water is still used now 
for
> daily activities – drinking for example.
> Citarum River Indonesia Covered in Garbage Photo
> The 200-mile long Citarum River in Indonesia hosts more
> than 500 factories along its banks and is quite possibly
> the most polluted river in the world.
> There is so much garbage coating the surface that in 
many
> places you can't see the water, and it is more 
profitable
> to forage for garbage than making a living fishing the
> river, though you do risk catching a nasty disease by
> spending any time in it.
>
> 
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fw: dokter-INA> Fw: Most polluted river in the world!!!l

2010-07-31 Terurut Topik Dwi Soegardi
Pak KM,

ngga minum atau masak dari air PDAM?

Penulis bilangnya "  is quite possibly
the most polluted river in the world. "

eh kirain sudah diukur, hampir aja aku bangga :-)



On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM, kmj...@indosat.net.id <
kmj...@indosat.net.id> wrote:

>
>
>
> Sungai Citarum adalah sungai paling tercemar di dunia.
> Lagi-lagi kita menjadi juara.
> Pertanyaan saya: haram atau halalkah menjadikan air sungai
> Citarum sebagai sumber PDAM yang kemudian akan diminum dan
> untuk memasak masyarakat?
> KM
>
> - Original Message -
> From: HB Pradhana H
>
> The World’s Most Polluted River
> At the first glance, what do you see in the picture
> above? I thought the man was on a rubbish dump, and I
> thought the boat was one of the rubbish. Until I read
> further, only then I realize that it’s actually not a
> rubbish dump, but a very polluted river. The picture above
> shows no sign of a river to me, to you too I suppose. The
> man above is actually collecting things like plastic
> bottles to be recycled and can probably earn a pound or two
> a week by doing so. People now fish for rubbish at the
> river, instead of fish.
> Here’re two more picture that suggest that’s really a
> river, the one with water:
> Polluted River
> If you’ve been wondering what river is that and its
> location, the river is called Citarum located in Indonesia
> ..
> The GOVT is responsible for causing this. It’s nothing
> different from -- murder. The water is still used now for
> daily activities – drinking for example.
> Citarum River Indonesia Covered in Garbage Photo
> The 200-mile long Citarum River in Indonesia hosts more
> than 500 factories along its banks and is quite possibly
> the most polluted river in the world.
> There is so much garbage coating the surface that in many
> places you can't see the water, and it is more profitable
> to forage for garbage than making a living fishing the
> river, though you do risk catching a nasty disease by
> spending any time in it.
>
> 
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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