Re: [Warzone-dev] Reencoding the videos

2009-06-19 Thread bugs buggy
On 6/18/09, Christian Ohm chrxx...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hello,

  I've recently encoded the German RPLs into the Theora format for use with
  Warzone. Before that I believed those who claimed the loss in quality wasn't
  significant, but actually comparing original and encoded file this is
  definitely _not_ the case. The videos we currently offer are _ugly_ (and 
 that's
  compared to the originals' ugly).

I agree...


  http://www.filefactory.com/file/ag6g6hb/n/eidos-logo_7z contains three sample
  files, the original uncompressed AVI, the current WRP encode and my new 
 encode.

  As I said, the videos we currently offer are quite crappy, maybe we can offer
  reencoded ones for 2.2.1 (with fixed seams _and_ good-looking videos!). I
  could do the encoding, though uploading takes several hours. I'm not sure 
 about
  the Windows installer, offer two video options small and crappy and large
  and good?

The ones you did do look better, but, if you do re-encode them all,
would we be allowed to stick the German ones on GNA as well, or is
that still a gray area?

For the windows installer, I was thinking if we could use a softlink
for the files, and then we can always point them to the newest
version, on gna, to download (if that is possible?)
Adding another entry is trivial.

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Re: [Warzone-dev] Reencoding the videos

2009-06-19 Thread Dennis Schridde
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 08:02:57 schrieb bugs buggy:
 On 6/18/09, Christian Ohm chrxx...@gmx.net wrote:
   http://www.filefactory.com/file/ag6g6hb/n/eidos-logo_7z contains three
  sample files, the original uncompressed AVI, the current WRP encode and
  my new encode.
 
   As I said, the videos we currently offer are quite crappy, maybe we can
  offer reencoded ones for 2.2.1 (with fixed seams _and_ good-looking
  videos!). I could do the encoding, though uploading takes several hours.
  I'm not sure about the Windows installer, offer two video options small
  and crappy and large and good?

 The ones you did do look better, but, if you do re-encode them all,
 would we be allowed to stick the German ones on GNA as well, or is
 that still a gray area?
I will have a read in the readme on the weekend and tell you afterwards.

Till then you can start to upload reencoded english cutscenes. ;)

 For the windows installer, I was thinking if we could use a softlink
 for the files, and then we can always point them to the newest
 version, on gna, to download (if that is possible?)
warzone2100-sequences-latest.wz? Sounds good.

--DevU


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Re: [Warzone-dev] Reencoding the videos

2009-06-19 Thread Zarel
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Dennis Schriddedevuran...@gmx.net wrote:
 For the windows installer, I was thinking if we could use a softlink
 for the files, and then we can always point them to the newest
 version, on gna, to download (if that is possible?)
 warzone2100-sequences-latest.wz? Sounds good.

What's wrong with sequences.wz? o_O

-Zarel

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[Warzone-dev] Reencoding the videos

2009-06-18 Thread Christian Ohm
Hello,

I've recently encoded the German RPLs into the Theora format for use with
Warzone. Before that I believed those who claimed the loss in quality wasn't
significant, but actually comparing original and encoded file this is
definitely _not_ the case. The videos we currently offer are _ugly_ (and that's
compared to the originals' ugly).

For the German encodes I've used ffmpeg2theora with libtheora 1.1alpha2, and
the following options: -K65536 -v10 --optimize --pp de/tn:64:128:256. The
resulting videos are ~470 MB (~410 MB when compressed with 7z), but you can
actually watch them fullscreen on a 21 display without wanting to claw your
eyes out.

Theora 1.1alpha2 gave about 20% better compression ratio than the old 1.0. The
final 1.1 will probably improve this further.

The options mean:
-K65536 - keyframes all 65536 frames, since we don't need to seek.
-v10 - best quality, everything below that gives visible artifacts when viewed
fullscreen.
--optimize - better (but slower) compression.
--pp de/tn:64:128:256 - filter the video before reencoding with a
deblocker/deringer and temporal noise removal. This removes some of the
compression artifacts of the original codec, which improves both compression
rate and (at least imo) visual appearance.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/ag6g6hb/n/eidos-logo_7z contains three sample
files, the original uncompressed AVI, the current WRP encode and my new encode.

As I said, the videos we currently offer are quite crappy, maybe we can offer
reencoded ones for 2.2.1 (with fixed seams _and_ good-looking videos!). I
could do the encoding, though uploading takes several hours. I'm not sure about
the Windows installer, offer two video options small and crappy and large
and good? 



BTW, sequences/c001.ogg seems to be useless, it looks like
sequences/cam1/c001.ogg without the swirly thing in the beginning, and wasn't
even translated in the German version.

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