Re: [wtr-general] Re: watir, watir-webdriver, watir-classic: history and current state?
On Monday, December 30, 2013 7:53:06 AM UTC-8, Željko Filipin wrote: On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Jarmo Pertman jar...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: It's more or less the same. +1 Željko Agreed. The big differences between the two are - Cross browser support - watir has none, as mention above it is IE only (not an issue 'back in the day' when it originated and IE had 90% of the market share) - watir-webdriver supports pretty much anything webdriver supports, Firefox, Chrome, IE, Opera, Safari, iOS, Android etc - How IE is 'driven' - watir-classic uses windows exclusive stuff (pretty old stuff, WIN32OLE? (presuming my memory of that is correct) to drive IE - watir-webdriver uses webdriver to drive IE To the extent that watir-webdriver has issues with IE, very likely ANY other webdriver based tool, Capybara, Selenium, will have the very same issues -- -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Watir General group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [wtr-general] Re: watir, watir-webdriver, watir-classic: history and current state?
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Jarmo Pertman jarm...@gmail.com wrote: It's more or less the same. +1 Željko -- -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Watir General group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [wtr-general] Re: watir, watir-webdriver, watir-classic: history and current state?
It's more or less the same. Jarmo Pertman - IT does really matter - http://itreallymatters.net On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:08:28 PM UTC+2, Madhu Ganesh wrote: Any update on this conversation? I'd like to know how it compares as of today. Thanks Madhu. -- -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Watir General group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [wtr-general] Re: watir, watir-webdriver, watir-classic: history and current state?
Any update on this conversation? I'd like to know how it compares as of today. Thanks Madhu. -- -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Watir General group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [wtr-general] Re: watir, watir-webdriver, watir-classic: history and current state?
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Alex Shtayer ashta...@gmail.com wrote: but Watir classic is still only for Internet Explorer or something changed? Yes. watir-classic can only drive IE. watir-webdriver can drive all popular browsers, including IE. Željko -- -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Watir General group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[wtr-general] Re: watir, watir-webdriver, watir-classic: history and current state?
but Watir classic is still only for Internet Explorer or something changed? -- -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Watir General group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[wtr-general] Re: watir, watir-webdriver, watir-classic: history and current state?
By the way, Watir-Classic works quite similarly today when compared to Watir-Webdriver - e.g. handling of popups is the same and you cannot interact with hidden elements. In other words - there should not have many of incompatibilities between the two. Jarmo Pertman - IT does really matter - http://itreallymatters.net On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 5:49:39 PM UTC+2, Alex Shtayer wrote: General impression: I created hundreds of cases for different functionality (in some cases really complex one) on watir classic and firewatir. After that I spent last six months to migrate everything on one platform (watir-webdriver) as it helps me keep code for all browsers much more maintainable and in the same way. (we don't need all this firefox plug-ins and etc). Also I love new way of handling pop-ups in watir-webdriver, so I finally get rid all AutoIT code and have pure watir code. As for me, watir-webdriver works MUCH more reliable than watir for small cases (I do not see any random things), but for long runs I see some crashes that I cannot debug in any way due the driver itself (.exe, so black box for me). So if you do not see any issues with driver, I will recommend to use watir-webdriver Is it true that watir-webdriver has improved significantly in the past 12 months? I know only for last 6 months, but yes. As for me - as Željko said 'Not sure if I would say significantly, but I would say it has improved' The true motivation for watir-classic: If you have all your code on watir and you don't want to migrate it. As watir-webdrvier completely differently interacts with elements in comparison with watir, you will need to work a lot for such migration. Even the syntax is similar, it doesn't mean that your code will work. For example, my watir code can click on elements that are not visible (like directly through DOM), but watir-webdriver will definitely crash and etc. -- -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Watir General group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[wtr-general] Re: watir, watir-webdriver, watir-classic: history and current state?
General impression: I created hundreds of cases for different functionality (in some cases really complex one) on watir classic and firewatir. After that I spent last six months to migrate everything on one platform (watir-webdriver) as it helps me keep code for all browsers much more maintainable and in the same way. (we don't need all this firefox plug-ins and etc). Also I love new way of handling pop-ups in watir-webdriver, so I finally get rid all AutoIT code and have pure watir code. As for me, watir-webdriver works MUCH more reliable than watir for small cases (I do not see any random things), but for long runs I see some crashes that I cannot debug in any way due the driver itself (.exe, so black box for me). So if you do not see any issues with driver, I will recommend to use watir-webdriver Is it true that watir-webdriver has improved significantly in the past 12 months? I know only for last 6 months, but yes. As for me - as Željko said 'Not sure if I would say significantly, but I would say it has improved' The true motivation for watir-classic: If you have all your code on watir and you don't want to migrate it. As watir-webdrvier completely differently interacts with elements in comparison with watir, you will need to work a lot for such migration. Even the syntax is similar, it doesn't mean that your code will work. For example, my watir code can click on elements that are not visible (like directly through DOM), but watir-webdriver will definitely crash and etc. -- -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. watir-general@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Watir General group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
