Re: [VOTE] Retire Wave
+1 On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Henry <henry@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Evan Hughes <wisebald...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On 2 Jan 2018 7:56 AM, "Yuri Z" <vega...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > Wave is currently in the Apache Incubator, which has expectations of > > how > > > a > > > > project matures. Wave, being a small project, over its seven years of > > > > incubation, is not showing signs of reaching graduation. Thus, it > seems > > > > time we accept that the Incubator is not the place for this project. > > > > > > > > Retirement need not halt development - it simply means that Apache is > > not > > > > the venue, and the project is relieved of the constraints and demands > > > that > > > > Apache places upon it. Once retired, anyone can push the project > code, > > > for > > > > example, to GitHub. All that is required is that the terms of the > > Apache > > > > License continue to be honoured. > > > > > > > > If the vote is to retire, then before actioning the retirement, we > can > > > > have a discussion on this list to see if we can reach a consensus as > to > > > > where the code might move to, or to see if there is a volunteer who > is > > > > willing to carry out the migration work. > > > > > > > > This vote is really aimed at members of the Wave PPMC, however > general > > > > votes are welcomed. > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 Retire Wave > > > > [ ] 0 Abstain > > > > [ ] -1 Keep Wave in the Apache Incubator > > > > > > > > Upayavira > > > > > > > > > > -- Regards ! Gaurav Shukla gauravshukla.xyz
Re: ALL HANDS - 9/28 10am EST
Y5QheIbYFO2epEh > XGucNZE04r_oA4/edit#> > > ) > > > > * Move federation from XMPP to Matrix code / needs a deep peer review > (github > > link <https://github.com/Waqee/incubator-wave>) > > > > * Status of SwellRT development contest participation (website link > > <http://swellrt.org/contest/>) > > > > * Identify additional Project Model updates, if any > > > > Conclusion > > > > * Wrap up and finalize priorities for work that needs to be done next > > based on planning discussion - result will be captured in document. > > > > Please add/change this agenda as you see fit. (gdoc link > > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/11j_WQGYAtDlN8Wqx8jJglPpw6tJznvMGf > dLOvQu96i0/edit?usp=sharing> > > ) > > > > Thanks, everyone! > > > > Adam John > > (914) 623-8433 > > Google+ <http://google.com/+AdamJohn1> | LinkedIn < > http://mradamjohn.com/> > > > > > -- Regards ! Gaurav Shukla gauravshukla.xyz
Re: ALL HANDS - 9/28 10am EST
Count me in, I looked up SwellRT and I really look forward to contributing if SwellRT is brought into Wave. And I too am not very good at discussions plus I haven't dived deep enough into the code base to give suggestions, so i'll probably be a silent listener.
Re: Retirement
Hello Everyone, I am quite late to the discussion but I like the direction this project might take. I tried contributing a few months back but the code base was simply too complex. I'll try to be available for hangout and I think this and well as any other conference call we have should be recorded. The discussion would likely help on boarding of new developers. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 1:06 AM, Zachary Yaro <zmy...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am excited to see all this. It is unlikely I can join the call during > work hours—is there any chance it could be recorded (e.g., done as a > Hangout On Air) so I can catch up later? > > > Thank you, > Zachary Yaro > > On Sep 5, 2016 11:16, "Adam John" <a...@sterlingsolved.com> wrote: > > > @pablo that is great that you are working with the Complutense University > > of Madrid! ... I'm adding an agenda item to give you a chance to talk > about > > the results of the contest if that is okay? > > > > If we can make progress on the peer review before the meeting, that would > > be great as well.. also added a discussion item to the agenda for it. ( > > https://github.com/Waqee/incubator-wave) > > > > --- > > > > @andreas awesome, I've added you to the informal attendees list. > > > > Since Docker and Kubernetes both use Golang, I've been toying with them > > lately as well. This highlights one of my earlier point about making > > adjustments to this project that will best leverage other open source > work. > > > > I had not found SOLID yet, but quick review and it seems intriguing... it > > is related to good+interesting W3C work (https://www.w3.org/TR/ldp- > primer/ > > ) > > > > --- > > > > @all ... I'll be starting 2 new threads, this one goes well beyond > > 'Retirement' imho > > Please join them as you deem appropriate. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Adam John > > (914) 623-8433 > > Google+ <http://google.com/+AdamJohn1> | LinkedIn < > http://mradamjohn.com/ > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Andreas Kotes < > > count-apache@flatline.de> > > wrote: > > > > > hi, > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:08:23AM +0200, Thomas Wrobel wrote: > > > > Server folk get that gwt away from me! > > > > Gwt folk; get that server stuff away from me! > > > > > > everyone, get that Java away from me ;) > > > > > > *sigh* .. I've noticed that I've been moving on - towards Golang-based > > > stuff. > > > > > > btw, you've see https://github.com/solid/solid ? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > count > > > > > > P.S: I hope to be able to make it on the 28th .. > > > > > > -- > > > Andreas 'count' Kotes > > > Taming computers for humans since 1990. > > > "Don't ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive, and go > do > > > it. > > > Because what the world needs is people who have come alive." -- Howard > > > Thurman > > > > > > -- Regards ! Gaurav Shukla gauravshukla.xyz
Re: Wavy Future - Project Brief
I second Upayavira on this, the project brief looks fine but it should be broken down into meaningful sub tasks with a proper timeline. Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature=en=gshukl...@gmail.com=22> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:40 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, at 07:08 AM, Evan Hughes wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > This is a project brief that some new interested developers asked for, > > please note that* this is for the Apache Wave rewrite *project "A Wavy > > Future" due to the potential of the rewrite not being the main source and > > not for the current source which exists in the repo. > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Project+Brief > > > > Please feel free to give feedback either here or on the document if you > > have an account. Also note that some sections of the document are > > unfinished like the timeline. > > Evan, > > You are presenting something pretty monolithic - it could be hard to get > a group of developers to work together on such a large endeavour. > > Can you break it down into smaller pieces, each of which are useful in > themselves? If you can present something like, "here is an OT engine > that can be used by any project, and will take 1mth to develop", then > you have something distinctly useful, and something that is much more > likely to draw in new developers, because the project HAS something they > can immediately use. > > The best way to develop open source is to tap into developer's sense of > their own self-interest. > > Thoughts? > > Upayavira > -- Regards ! Gaurav Shukla gauravshukla.xyz
Re: Interested in Contributing to Wave
>Ill see if I can write a project brief for the mailing list to check over >about what requirements we want for long term and short term sprints. That will certainly help bring new contributors on board. >Though do keep in mind that the mailing list will have to decide at a >latter date to accept the source when it has matured Are we talking of merging the new Branch back into the old branch ? Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature=en=gshukl...@gmail.com=22> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Evan Hughes <wisebald...@apache.org> wrote: > Ill see if I can write a project brief for the mailing list to check over > about what requirements we want for long term and short term sprints. > > Though do keep in mind that the mailing list will have to decide at a > latter date to accept the source when it has matured. As such discussion of > the rewrite must be stated explicitly to avoid confusion. > > I'd do this by adding "wavey future" to future topics, just a fyi. > > Also note any discussion outside this mailing list is unofficial chatter, > so any decisions made on hipchat mean nothing untill made on the mailing > list. > On 05/04/2016 4:07 AM, "Gaurav Shukla" <gshukl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I haven't worked with OT but I've worked on some real-time stuff, mostly > > sockets and WebSockets. > > For this particular project, I think I can help with Rest API and > > Client-Server communication. > > > > Apart from that, I have worked on python and nodejs on the server side > and > > Angular Js on Web clients. So if someone needs help on that front then I > > can help. > > > > > > > > > > Sent with MailTrack > > < > > > https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature=en=gshukl...@gmail.com=22 > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Adam Bielski > <a_biel...@ymail.com.invalid > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Gaurav, have you ever worked on any technology that involves OT?What is > > > your field of specialization if I may ask? > > > Cheers! > > > Adam > > > > > > 19:07 poniedziałek, 2016-4-4, Gaurav Shukla <gshukl...@gmail.com> > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > Thanks for you time Evan, It was nice getting to know about Wave. Now > > that > > > I have understood what google wave was and what apache wave is, I've > some > > > feedback. > > > > > > I like the idea of rewrite and decoupling of client and server while > > > keeping the protocol as it is, but I would suggest to cut down on > > features > > > and implement them as the product gains traction. > > > > > > It took me about an hour to figure out what wave was, it was too > > > complicated and offered too many features. And rewriting every one of > > them > > > if there's no adoption would be futile. > > > > > > That's all I had to say. One of my friends might also be interested in > > this > > > project, I'll discuss it with him and see if I can get him to devote > some > > > time to this project. > > > > > > I would like to see wave in action during code reviews :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent with MailTrack > > > <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature⟨=en= > > > gshukl...@gmail.com=22> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Evan Hughes <wisebald...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Morning/Evening, > > > > > > > > Glad to hear your interested, > > > > > > > > hipchat channel: https://www.hipchat.com/gsModF8CY > > > > irc on freenode is #wiab > > > > > > > > note the hipchat wont preserve history since you'll be a guest after > > you > > > > close the tab. > > > > > > > > ~ Evan Hughes > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 at 22:10 Gaurav Shukla <gshukl...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Your Thread a more Wavy future caught my eye. I read all the > archives > > > > and I > > > > > think I can help with API and client-server communication. > > > > > > > > > > It would be nice if someone who is actively involved could put me > up > > to > > > > > speed over a hangout or irc > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards ! > > > > > Gaurav Shukla > > > > > gauravshukla.xyz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent with MailTrack > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature⟨=en= > > > gshukl...@gmail.com=22 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards ! > > > Gaurav Shukla > > > gauravshukla.xyz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards ! > > Gaurav Shukla > > gauravshukla.xyz > > > -- Regards ! Gaurav Shukla gauravshukla.xyz
Re: Interested in Contributing to Wave
I haven't worked with OT but I've worked on some real-time stuff, mostly sockets and WebSockets. For this particular project, I think I can help with Rest API and Client-Server communication. Apart from that, I have worked on python and nodejs on the server side and Angular Js on Web clients. So if someone needs help on that front then I can help. Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature=en=gshukl...@gmail.com=22> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Adam Bielski <a_biel...@ymail.com.invalid> wrote: > Gaurav, have you ever worked on any technology that involves OT?What is > your field of specialization if I may ask? > Cheers! > Adam > > 19:07 poniedziałek, 2016-4-4, Gaurav Shukla <gshukl...@gmail.com> > napisał(a): > > > Thanks for you time Evan, It was nice getting to know about Wave. Now that > I have understood what google wave was and what apache wave is, I've some > feedback. > > I like the idea of rewrite and decoupling of client and server while > keeping the protocol as it is, but I would suggest to cut down on features > and implement them as the product gains traction. > > It took me about an hour to figure out what wave was, it was too > complicated and offered too many features. And rewriting every one of them > if there's no adoption would be futile. > > That's all I had to say. One of my friends might also be interested in this > project, I'll discuss it with him and see if I can get him to devote some > time to this project. > > I would like to see wave in action during code reviews :) > > > > Sent with MailTrack > <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature⟨=en= > gshukl...@gmail.com=22> > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Evan Hughes <wisebald...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Morning/Evening, > > > > Glad to hear your interested, > > > > hipchat channel: https://www.hipchat.com/gsModF8CY > > irc on freenode is #wiab > > > > note the hipchat wont preserve history since you'll be a guest after you > > close the tab. > > > > ~ Evan Hughes > > > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 at 22:10 Gaurav Shukla <gshukl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Your Thread a more Wavy future caught my eye. I read all the archives > > and I > > > think I can help with API and client-server communication. > > > > > > It would be nice if someone who is actively involved could put me up to > > > speed over a hangout or irc > > > > > > -- > > > Regards ! > > > Gaurav Shukla > > > gauravshukla.xyz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent with MailTrack > > > < > > > > > https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature⟨=en= > gshukl...@gmail.com=22 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards ! > Gaurav Shukla > gauravshukla.xyz > > > > -- Regards ! Gaurav Shukla gauravshukla.xyz
Re: Interested in Contributing to Wave
Thanks for you time Evan, It was nice getting to know about Wave. Now that I have understood what google wave was and what apache wave is, I've some feedback. I like the idea of rewrite and decoupling of client and server while keeping the protocol as it is, but I would suggest to cut down on features and implement them as the product gains traction. It took me about an hour to figure out what wave was, it was too complicated and offered too many features. And rewriting every one of them if there's no adoption would be futile. That's all I had to say. One of my friends might also be interested in this project, I'll discuss it with him and see if I can get him to devote some time to this project. I would like to see wave in action during code reviews :) Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature=en=gshukl...@gmail.com=22> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Evan Hughes <wisebald...@apache.org> wrote: > Morning/Evening, > > Glad to hear your interested, > > hipchat channel: https://www.hipchat.com/gsModF8CY > irc on freenode is #wiab > > note the hipchat wont preserve history since you'll be a guest after you > close the tab. > > ~ Evan Hughes > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 at 22:10 Gaurav Shukla <gshukl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Your Thread a more Wavy future caught my eye. I read all the archives > and I > > think I can help with API and client-server communication. > > > > It would be nice if someone who is actively involved could put me up to > > speed over a hangout or irc > > > > -- > > Regards ! > > Gaurav Shukla > > gauravshukla.xyz > > > > > > > > > > Sent with MailTrack > > < > > > https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature=en=gshukl...@gmail.com=22 > > > > > > -- Regards ! Gaurav Shukla gauravshukla.xyz
Interested in Contributing to Wave
Hi all, Your Thread a more Wavy future caught my eye. I read all the archives and I think I can help with API and client-server communication. It would be nice if someone who is actively involved could put me up to speed over a hangout or irc -- Regards ! Gaurav Shukla gauravshukla.xyz Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature=en=gshukl...@gmail.com=22>
