On 5/24/2014 10:00 AM, wbmutbb-requ...@wbmutbb.com wrote:
So, perhaps at least SOME of all this info is true. Here is where I would like
some help. Maybe we can't get ahold of those lovely ladies from the Women's
Historical Society who were trying to track down Nathan Tibbs' descendant, but
there must be several folks here in our chapter who do genealogical research
.... please search 1928 or thereabouts for the names Frances Bavier and Russell
Carpenter and see if anything comes up. Since she was born in New York that's
as good a place as any to start.
Paul, I'd like to see that CATS Magazine and learn their source of
information. So far, I've come up with zilch when it comes to Frances
Bavier's marriage. (The given name is alternately spelled "Francis" and
"Frances" in records.) I've scoured marriage records readily available
and have found nothing. I've opened 6 or 7 Bavier family trees, but none
with any marriage information for Frances. One of these family trees
states, "Never married," and the others are simply mute on the subject.
I've found Frances Bavier in census records for 1910, 1920, and 1930, as
well as the Social Security Death Index. Frances Elizabeth Bavier was
born 14 December 1902 in New York City, and, as we all know, she died 6
December 1989 in Siler City, Chatham, North Carolina. Her father was
Charles Samuel Bavier (1850-1920) and her mother was Mary S. Birmingham
(1870 - ?). In the 1910 census, she was living at 7 years of age in
Manhattan, Ward 17, NYNY. Her father was then 51, her mother 40, her
sister Marjorie was 17, her brother Charles A. was 12, and there were
also two Birmingham children listed: Anna Birmingham 21, and Joseph
Birmingham 15.
In the 1920 census Frances is 17 and the Bavier family was living in
Manhattan, Assembly District 7, NYNY. The head of the household was
still her father, Chas S. Bavier 69. Mother Mary Birmingham has
disappeared from record by this date. In the 1930 census, Frances is 25
and the head of household is now her sister Margaret, age 40. The two of
them were living at this time in Queens, New York.
I attempted a short search of the Russell Carpenter and J. Russell
Carpenter you suggested, also with no luck. When I plug in dates and
locations, I find several matching this name, but they all have other
wives. The 1940 census shows James Russell Carpenter of New York as a
widow, so this doesn't fit if you believe Frances married in 1928. And
the search goes on . . . . If better information is found, I'll relay it
to you.
Larry in CO
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