[wdvltalk] Re: domain pointing

2003-09-10 Thread Abigail Marshall
On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 9:24:48 AM, Steve Miller commented:


SM I have a new client who wants us to build a single website with several
SM sections: one for each book she is writing/publishing and one for her parent
SM company. Each section will have a different look relating to its book, and
SM the company section will have its own look. She wants to purchase a domain
SM name for each book, and one for her parent company, but only wants to
SM purchase one hosting package to hold them all.

Steve,  you simply need a server that allows you to do
virtual hosting. It is very easy to configure - with Unix 
Apache it is just a matter of adding an entry to the
httpd.conf file.

If your hosting company doesn't provide this service, then
simply find one that caters to resellers.

-Abigail


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[wdvltalk] Re: domain pointing

2003-09-10 Thread Steve Miller
Thank you Abigail. I plan to look into this as well as pushing sub-domains.
Thanks to all who answered.
steve


 
 
 SM I have a new client who wants us to build a single website with several
 SM sections: one for each book she is writing/publishing and one for her
 parent
 SM company. Each section will have a different look relating to its book,
 and
 SM the company section will have its own look. She wants to purchase a domain
 SM name for each book, and one for her parent company, but only wants to
 SM purchase one hosting package to hold them all.
 
 Steve,  you simply need a server that allows you to do
 virtual hosting. It is very easy to configure - with Unix 
 Apache it is just a matter of adding an entry to the
 httpd.conf file.
 
 If your hosting company doesn't provide this service, then
 simply find one that caters to resellers.
 
 -Abigail


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[wdvltalk] More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
All,

I'm currently redeveloping a website using xHtml 1.0 Strict and CSS. 
Some of you helped me out with a problem with the xHtml yesterday, now I
need help with the CSS!

The site is here: http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/new_site/ and the
problem is that I can't seem to get the top bar (with the word Logo in
it) to change height!  The code for that div's id is as follows:

#top {
margin: 20px 20px 0px 20px;
padding: 10px;
border: 5px solid #d7d9ec;
height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge begins */
voice-family: \}\;
voice-family:inherit;
height: 100px;
text-align: center;
}
htmlbody #top {
height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge ends */
}


I've tried changing all the height variables one by one then all at once
but there's still no change in size!

Any comments on the layout would be appreciated too, but this is very
early days! :p

Cheers,

Matt
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[wdvltalk] Re: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Ignore all that, its working now, dunno what it was, but I'm not too
bothered to tell the truth! :p

OK, so its not exactly best practice not to work out why it didn't work
before, but hey, I'm not a pro! :D

Cheers Anyways,

Matt

On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:52, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
 All,
 
 I'm currently redeveloping a website using xHtml 1.0 Strict and CSS. 
 Some of you helped me out with a problem with the xHtml yesterday, now I
 need help with the CSS!
 
 The site is here: http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/new_site/ and the
 problem is that I can't seem to get the top bar (with the word Logo in
 it) to change height!  The code for that div's id is as follows:
 
 #top {
 margin: 20px 20px 0px 20px;
 padding: 10px;
 border: 5px solid #d7d9ec;
 height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge begins */
 voice-family: \}\;
 voice-family:inherit;
 height: 100px;
 text-align: center;
 }
 htmlbody #top {
 height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge ends */
 }
 
 
 I've tried changing all the height variables one by one then all at once
 but there's still no change in size!
 
 Any comments on the layout would be appreciated too, but this is very
 early days! :p
 
 Cheers,
 
 Matt
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[wdvltalk] RE: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread Stephen Caudill
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:52 AM said:

snip / 
: #top {
: margin: 20px 20px 0px 20px;
: padding: 10px;
: border: 5px solid #d7d9ec;
: height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge begins */
: voice-family: \}\;
: voice-family:inherit;
: height: 100px;
: text-align: center;
: }
: htmlbody #top {
: height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge ends */
: }
snip /

Matt,

   I know you've already solved this one, but I had to throw in m2c about
using hacks...  Bad hack.  Naughty hack.  Go back to Tantek's house.  

rant

  Seriously though, if you're learning CSS, the way to go about it is not 
by editing out the behaviors of particular browsers, it's better to write
to spec and then make note of how different browsers render things. Don't
derive workarounds or employ them before you know they are *absolutely*
necessary. The hack above is Tantek Celik's infamous 'voice-family hack'
and it is meant to correct the erroneous box model of IE5 and IE5.5...

  The whole difference in box models really just boils down to how they
handle padding.  My personal solution is to employ a single structural
hack which I've heard refferred to as the 'box-in-a-box' hack.  This hack
also works around IE's lack of 'min-width'/'max-width'.  It is simply
a div directly inside of a div which uses its own margin to simulate
padding on its parent div.  It looks like it would work fine for you, too.

  Ack! besides, the code above doesn't even follow the hack.  It's meant 
to feed IE a different width, that way you get pixel perfect display 
across all the browsers in the universe (to which I say bah-humbug), but 
the code above gives IE the same value (100px) inside of the voice family 
hack as outside, therefore its not doing /anything/.

  Something else to take into consideration is that if you are forcing IE
into standards mode (IE6 being around 60% of the 95% overall market share)
the differences between it and other browsers are greatly lessened. 

  I'm admittedly venting a bit here, but I wish someone had told me to 
hang up the hacks when I was trying to learn CSS.

/rant

okay, I'm done.  though, I'll likely spend the next two hours cleaning 
split-pea soup off my monitor ;)

-Stephen
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[wdvltalk] RE: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:05, Stephen Caudill wrote:
snip /
 Ack! besides, the code above doesn't even follow the hack.  It's meant 
 to feed IE a different width, that way you get pixel perfect display 
 across all the browsers in the universe (to which I say bah-humbug), but 
 the code above gives IE the same value (100px) inside of the voice family 
 hack as outside, therefore its not doing /anything/.

the reason for this is that I failed to note the ratios when I borrowed
the source code, I'm going to add the link to the site I borrowed it
from as soon as I can find it again, and then I'll re-instate the
ratio's!

Problem is, as I'm running Linux only, I can't view the pages in IE, any
chance someone could screen shot it for me and mail it to me off list?

I just tried running iexplore.exe via WINE, but it wasn't impressed...
:(

   Something else to take into consideration is that if you are forcing IE
 into standards mode (IE6 being around 60% of the 95% overall market share)
 the differences between it and other browsers are greatly lessened. 

rant
I've gotta speak up on this one, don't take it personally, but shouldn't
IE6 adhere to the standards as a default?  Isn't that the idea of
standards? that evry one follows them?
/rant

   I'm admittedly venting a bit here, but I wish someone had told me to 
 hang up the hacks when I was trying to learn CSS.
 /rant

That's fair enough, if I'd known this knowledge before, I would have
included it, thatnks for helping me out!

 
 okay, I'm done.  though, I'll likely spend the next two hours cleaning 
 split-pea soup off my monitor ;)

lol!

Matt
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[wdvltalk] RE: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Matt,

 Problem is, as I'm running Linux only, I can't view the pages in IE

800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024 for your viewing pleasure:
http://laughing-buddha.net/tmp/tif-800.gif
http://laughing-buddha.net/tmp/tif-1024.gif
http://laughing-buddha.net/tmp/tif-1280.gif

I love the anti DMCA banner, by the way :-)

Cheers
Jon

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[wdvltalk] RE: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread Jon Haworth
  Problem is, as I'm running Linux only, I can't view the pages in IE
 
 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024 for your viewing pleasure:

... and one to show how it handles the overlapping:
http://laughing-buddha.net/tmp/tif-small.gif

(sorry for the extra post)

Cheers
Jon


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[wdvltalk] RE: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread michael ensor
second that: I have never had to use the voice model hack, but in IE 5.5
anyway there is a flaw that means you need to nest a 'content' div within a
div to both centre the 'content' div eg, if it contains an image, or to
apply  padding and border attributes, note that this also applies to fixed
width divs ( or any block element..)..
www.WellingtonLive.co.nz
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Caudill
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:05 AM
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: More CSS Fun!
:   The whole difference in box models really just boils down to how they
: handle padding.  My personal solution is to employ a single structural
: hack which I've heard refferred to as the 'box-in-a-box' hack.  This hack
: also works around IE's lack of 'min-width'/'max-width'.  It is simply
: a div directly inside of a div which uses its own margin to simulate
: padding on its parent div.  It looks like it would work fine for you, too.
:
:   Ack! besides, the code above doesn't even follow the hack.  It's meant
: to feed IE a different width, that way you get pixel perfect display
: across all the browsers in the universe (to which I say bah-humbug), but
: the code above gives IE the same value (100px) inside of the voice family
: hack as outside, therefore its not doing /anything/.
:
:   Something else to take into consideration is that if you are forcing IE
: into standards mode (IE6 being around 60% of the 95% overall market share)
: the differences between it and other browsers are greatly lessened.
:
:   I'm admittedly venting a bit here, but I wish someone had told me to
: hang up the hacks when I was trying to learn CSS.
:
: /rant
:
: okay, I'm done.  though, I'll likely spend the next two hours cleaning
: split-pea soup off my monitor ;)
:
: -Stephen
: http://www.mechavox.com/
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[wdvltalk] RE: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread Stephen Caudill
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:13 AM said:

snip /

: rant
: I've gotta speak up on this one, don't take it personally, but
: shouldn't IE6 adhere to the standards as a default?  Isn't that
: the idea of standards? that evry one follows them?
: /rant

Ah... unfortunately, Web Standards is a gross misnomer.  The W3C, 
which is who most people think of when they think about 'Standards' in 
relation to the web, is actually an organization which proposes 
reccomendations, not standards.  There's just no way to enforce these
so-called standards.  The power of the W3C is in its members and its
adhering supporters, but it still may only reccommend and not 
legislate... and come to think of it that's probably a good thing.

-Stephen
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[wdvltalk] Re: domain pointing

2003-09-10 Thread Crooks, David L.
I have www.homebiz-health.com which is URL Frame Forwarded and the address
line stays the same. It is just the message line has the real address that
is being called.  I really doubt most user would look there or care.

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Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: domain pointing



I use Namecheap for my domain registration and they have URL Forwarding
which allows me to point a domain name to directory.  Just have a directory
for each book. Right?

Well, not really, given what the client wants.  NameCheap will certainly 
point to the directory, but the URL shown will be of that directory, not 
the original name of the book.  NameCheap can almost achieve what is 
wanted, but that means that it will frame all the pages, which isn't very 
good for navigation, and especially not for someone entering other than 
through the default page.

Regards,
David

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[wdvltalk] IIF in SQL server

2003-09-10 Thread Furry, Tim
For rudy, particularly...

Copied and pasted right from my query analyzer: 'iif' is not a
recognized function name.

Am I missing something?  Is IIF only a part of Analysis Services?
That's where the BOL seems to indicate it's useful.

TIA,

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[wdvltalk] Re: domain pointing

2003-09-10 Thread David Blakey

I have www.homebiz-health.com which is URL Frame Forwarded and the address
line stays the same. It is just the message line has the real address that
is being called.  I really doubt most user would look there or care.
If a user tries to access a page other than the default page directly, by 
typing in the URL, what happens?  I thought you got a 404 if the URL was 
frame forwarded.

Regards,
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[wdvltalk] Re: IIF in SQL server

2003-09-10 Thread rudy
 'iif' is not a recognized function name.

 Am I missing something?  Is IIF only a part of Analysis Services?
 That's where the BOL seems to indicate it's useful.

i dunno what Analysis Services is, but obviously it's a different beast and
not part of sql server

you're not missing anything -- iif doesn't work in sql server

works in access, not in sql server

go figure

by the way, have you looked into the upsizing tools?  i have never looked
at them myself, but i wonder if perhaps they might offer query
translation...

i do have experience in rewriting IIF as CASE, though

as a matter of fact, i think you can approach the problem using a good
search  replace editor


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[wdvltalk] Windows XP editions

2003-09-10 Thread Tim Burgan
Hello,

I'm wanting to upgrade from Win98 to XP in order to install VMWare to test
my sites in.

I'm looking to buy a second-hand unused version that came bundled with a
DELL computer.
The seller says that this XP CD can only be installed on a Dell computer is
this true??

This is talked about on the Dell Forums [1]. I didn't understand very much.
Can someone please clarify this for me.

[1]
http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=enlangpair=es%7Cenu=http://forums.us
.dell.com/supportforums/board/message%3Fboard.id%3DEspPGenSW%26message.id%3D
101prev=/language_tools

Copy  Paste the above link into browser.

Regards
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[wdvltalk] RE: Windows XP editions

2003-09-10 Thread Galatek Webmaster
The reason the seller probably said that is that it has partial truth. Many
vendors have Backup CDs sent out with their computers, these CDs contain
everything needed for the operating system to work immediately, but the
usual downfall is that the drivers are customized to the hardware of that
machine. I had a heck of a time changing my notebook from WinXP to Win2K Pro
because I had no drivers disks for my hardware, I had to basically gundeck
installing all of the drivers and trick my computer. So the problem with the
CDs the guy is selling is probably proprietary hardware drivers that would
only work on a similar dell system to the one he got it from.

Plus its illegal for anyone to sell OEM versions of Operating systems I
believe unless they include the hardware it came with.

Charles R King
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-Original Message-
From: Tim Burgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Windows XP editions

Hello,

I'm wanting to upgrade from Win98 to XP in order to install VMWare to test
my sites in.

I'm looking to buy a second-hand unused version that came bundled with a
DELL computer.
The seller says that this XP CD can only be installed on a Dell computer is
this true??

This is talked about on the Dell Forums [1]. I didn't understand very much.
Can someone please clarify this for me.

[1]
http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=enlangpair=es%7Cenu=http://forums.us
.dell.com/supportforums/board/message%3Fboard.id%3DEspPGenSW%26message.id%3D
101prev=/language_tools

Copy  Paste the above link into browser.

Regards
Tim Burgan


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[wdvltalk] RE: Windows XP editions

2003-09-10 Thread Tim Burgan
: Charles replied -
:
: So the problem with the CDs the guy is selling is probably
: proprietary hardware drivers that would only work on a
: similar dell system to the one he got it from.
:
:  Plus its illegal for anyone to sell OEM versions of Operating
: systems I believe unless they include the hardware it came with.


I agree with the illegal part. I think they are selling hardware with it
though.
I guess it's safe just buying a NEW version.


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[wdvltalk] RE: Windows XP editions

2003-09-10 Thread Galatek Webmaster
Safer probably.. but not cheaper. You should shop around looking for used
versions that aren't OEM. Good Luck

Charles R King
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:
: So the problem with the CDs the guy is selling is probably
: proprietary hardware drivers that would only work on a
: similar dell system to the one he got it from.
:
:  Plus its illegal for anyone to sell OEM versions of Operating
: systems I believe unless they include the hardware it came with.


I agree with the illegal part. I think they are selling hardware with it
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I guess it's safe just buying a NEW version.


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[wdvltalk] Re: Windows XP editions

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 00:07, Tim Burgan wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm wanting to upgrade from Win98 to XP in order to install VMWare to test
 my sites in.
 
 I'm looking to buy a second-hand unused version that came bundled with a
 DELL computer.
 The seller says that this XP CD can only be installed on a Dell computer is
 this true??

Dell have a hardware code in each of their computers and this unlocks
the software, therefore, Dell OEM copies of Windows can _ONLY_ be
installed on Dell Computers, as a sys admin, it made my life hell,
thatnkfully the majority of the H/W was Dell, we had the odd HP box
knocking around, we just didn't have the same amount of disks as we had
licenses!

HTH,

Matt

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[wdvltalk] THIS WEEKS PATCHES FROM MS

2003-09-10 Thread michael ensor
Only one this time BUT important:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-039.asp

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[wdvltalk] Re: THIS WEEKS PATCHES FROM MS

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 00:53, michael ensor wrote:
 Only one this time BUT important:
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-039.asp

Best Windows Patch I ever found:

www.gentoo.org and emerge wine... :D

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[wdvltalk] Re: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread Franni Vincent
I had exactly the same problem on something I'm working on - I was
using as the basis for it one of the css examples that Cheryl
recommended - the one which had a lot of boxes layouts... Similar
code to Matt's example - probably shared an ancestor.
Anyway, top box wouldn't increase its height when it had its border
no matter what I did - ie added together the height of the logos, the
padding , the border  set that as total number of pixels for height
both times it occured in that sample - had it up to 350px at one
stage... damn box still too small. Swore at it every time I came back
to it  in the end I took the border  padding off the top section.
Then it was better.
Project's barely got beyond the front page  setting the layout at
the moment - http://www.gaycampaigns.org.uk - which is an achievement
as there are several campaigning groups represented ranging from
rabid to moderate  the fact that they all like the logo I put
together for this is amazing in itself ...
However: while I'm confessing to codal inadequacy  a lingering
dependence on tables -  how you get a logo to appear bang in the
center of the screen other than by using a one cell table set to
height=100%, please  ?
Franni

Ignore all that, its working now, dunno what it was, but I'm not too
bothered to tell the truth! :p
OK, so its not exactly best practice not to work out why it didn't work
before, but hey, I'm not a pro! :D
Cheers Anyways,

Matt

On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:52, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
 All,

 I'm currently redeveloping a website using xHtml 1.0 Strict and CSS.
 Some of you helped me out with a problem with the xHtml yesterday, now I
 need help with the CSS!
  The site is here: http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/new_site/ and the
 problem is that I can't seem to get the top bar (with the word Logo in
 it) to change height!  The code for that div's id is as follows:
 #top {
 margin: 20px 20px 0px 20px;
 padding: 10px;
 border: 5px solid #d7d9ec;
 height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge begins */
 voice-family: \}\;
 voice-family:inherit;
 height: 100px;
 text-align: center;
 }
 htmlbody #top {
 height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge ends */
 }
 I've tried changing all the height variables one by one then all at once
 but there's still no change in size!
 Any comments on the layout would be appreciated too, but this is very
 early days! :p
 Cheers,

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[wdvltalk] Re: THIS WEEKS PATCHES FROM MS

2003-09-10 Thread michael ensor
added to my favourites, I swear that I will become a penguin one of these
days.
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: On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 00:53, michael ensor wrote:
:  Only one this time BUT important:
:  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-039.asp
:
: Best Windows Patch I ever found:
:
: www.gentoo.org and emerge wine... :D
:
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[wdvltalk] Re: More CSS Fun!

2003-09-10 Thread michael ensor
umm, what about layers with the logo set as the background and any other
divs set with z-index? youcould still use relative positioning but of course
at some window sizes the logo would underlay the text.
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Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:25 PM
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: More CSS Fun!


: I had exactly the same problem on something I'm working on - I was
: using as the basis for it one of the css examples that Cheryl
: recommended - the one which had a lot of boxes layouts... Similar
: code to Matt's example - probably shared an ancestor.
:
: Anyway, top box wouldn't increase its height when it had its border
: no matter what I did - ie added together the height of the logos, the
: padding , the border  set that as total number of pixels for height
: both times it occured in that sample - had it up to 350px at one
: stage... damn box still too small. Swore at it every time I came back
: to it  in the end I took the border  padding off the top section.
: Then it was better.
:
: Project's barely got beyond the front page  setting the layout at
: the moment - http://www.gaycampaigns.org.uk - which is an achievement
: as there are several campaigning groups represented ranging from
: rabid to moderate  the fact that they all like the logo I put
: together for this is amazing in itself ...
:
: However: while I'm confessing to codal inadequacy  a lingering
: dependence on tables -  how you get a logo to appear bang in the
: center of the screen other than by using a one cell table set to
: height=100%, please  ?
:
: Franni
:
: Ignore all that, its working now, dunno what it was, but I'm not too
: bothered to tell the truth! :p
: 
: OK, so its not exactly best practice not to work out why it didn't work
: before, but hey, I'm not a pro! :D
: 
: Cheers Anyways,
: 
: Matt
: 
: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:52, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
:   All,
: 
:   I'm currently redeveloping a website using xHtml 1.0 Strict and CSS.
:   Some of you helped me out with a problem with the xHtml yesterday, now
I
:   need help with the CSS!
: 
:The site is here: http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/new_site/ and the
:   problem is that I can't seem to get the top bar (with the word Logo
in
:   it) to change height!  The code for that div's id is as follows:
: 
:   #top {
:   margin: 20px 20px 0px 20px;
:   padding: 10px;
:   border: 5px solid #d7d9ec;
:   height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge begins */
:   voice-family: \}\;
:   voice-family:inherit;
:   height: 100px;
:   text-align: center;
:   }
:   htmlbody #top {
:   height: 100px; /* ie5win fudge ends */
:   }
: 
: 
:   I've tried changing all the height variables one by one then all at
once
:   but there's still no change in size!
: 
:   Any comments on the layout would be appreciated too, but this is very
:   early days! :p
: 
:   Cheers,
: 
:   Matt
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[wdvltalk] RE: Windows XP editions

2003-09-10 Thread Hugh
 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Burgan
 
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 :
 :  Plus its illegal for anyone to sell OEM versions of Operating
 : systems I believe unless they include the hardware it came with.
 
 
 I agree with the illegal part. I think they are selling 
 hardware with it though. I guess it's safe just buying a NEW version.

OEM Windows can also be sold with a hard disk. That's a good way
to double-upgrade your system.

Hugh


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