[web2py] Re: Slightly on-topic -- CMSs
oot, for build the website (not webapps that have calculation), recently people goes using ssg (static site generator), think because it's faster dont have to load the plugins or unused themes object for cms, tried a lot base on the wiki list *ref:* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems for me wordpress is better, simple for end user, recovery is easier (export and import in *.xml format or via database and file system), for deliver the web to the user, perhaps need known about the plugins and themes that suit with client or user need best regards, stifan -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [web2py] Re: Slightly on-topic -- CMSs
My thoughs about CMS (they all sucks). They are maintains by the one who put them in place (prog side and content side), so you gonna find challenge in bringing someone to maintain the content in it out of IT and in IT you will find it difficult to find someone who wants maintain the content... So their only purpose is not having to recall the CSS to apply to each piece of the content to not break the visual of the much simple traditional web site that you could create to handle the limited content that will ever be publish in the CMS... I might be a bit rough about CMS here, but I had been a big believer back in the 2000's (2002-3 and the couples of years after that until I stumble on RoR and discover frameworks paradigm)... Frameworks make just more sens as you can craft only what you need and extend them as much as you need... Now I am not saying to remplace CMS by custom app is always a good idea, as it is a waste of time recreate WordPress, Drupal et al. But I am advocate that you evaluate the need for a CMS carefull and write down the client real requirements and what the expect, if they expect you to handle the design and content and the site they expect is pretty simple... CMS is a bad idea... As they are difficult to design to look different than the competition... If the needs are so specific that you will end customizing with a bunch of plugin a Word Press installation and make it a nightmare to maintain over time, I say, your client need you service as an app developer and frameworks are you best bet... About Python CMS, I recall the venerable Plone to be one of the only back in time, still is I guess... On Django side you can get many CMS Django applications I would look there for modern CMS... But again, most risk of not be exactly what you want and require a lot of customization... Good luck On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:59 PM Dave S wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:13:56 PM UTC-8, Dave S wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 8:14:27 PM UTC-8, Dave S wrote: >>> >>> I'd like to ask a couple questions of those of you running a Content >>> Management System in conjunction with web2py applications. >>> >>> 1. What do you consider important in a CMS? >>> 2. Who's in charge? (no, not names, what roles in the organization >>> handle the CMS and what roles the application?) >>> 3. How do you handle changes on one side so that the other side keeps >>> up? >>> 4. How happy are you with your CMS? >>> 5. What do you wish was different? >>> 6. Does the application think the CMS is just a special purpose >>> database, or does the CMS affect the application logic? >>> >>> I think that's enough to get me started with building a picture. I >>> appreciate your thoughts and assistance. >>> >>> >> I'm particularly interested in comments about the Wordpress CMS. >> >> /dps >> >> > > The downside of Wordpress (and Joobal and Drupal, the other members of > what seems to be the Big 3 per WikiP) is PHP. Any good pointers to a > Python implementation? > > And for completeness, is SharePoint considered a CMS? > > /dps > > -- > Resources: > - http://web2py.com > - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) > - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) > - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "web2py-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Slightly on-topic -- CMSs
On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:13:56 PM UTC-8, Dave S wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 8:14:27 PM UTC-8, Dave S wrote: >> >> I'd like to ask a couple questions of those of you running a Content >> Management System in conjunction with web2py applications. >> >> 1. What do you consider important in a CMS? >> 2. Who's in charge? (no, not names, what roles in the organization >> handle the CMS and what roles the application?) >> 3. How do you handle changes on one side so that the other side keeps up? >> 4. How happy are you with your CMS? >> 5. What do you wish was different? >> 6. Does the application think the CMS is just a special purpose >> database, or does the CMS affect the application logic? >> >> I think that's enough to get me started with building a picture. I >> appreciate your thoughts and assistance. >> >> > I'm particularly interested in comments about the Wordpress CMS. > > /dps > > The downside of Wordpress (and Joobal and Drupal, the other members of what seems to be the Big 3 per WikiP) is PHP. Any good pointers to a Python implementation? And for completeness, is SharePoint considered a CMS? /dps -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Slightly on-topic -- CMSs
On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 8:14:27 PM UTC-8, Dave S wrote: > > I'd like to ask a couple questions of those of you running a Content > Management System in conjunction with web2py applications. > > 1. What do you consider important in a CMS? > 2. Who's in charge? (no, not names, what roles in the organization handle > the CMS and what roles the application?) > 3. How do you handle changes on one side so that the other side keeps up? > 4. How happy are you with your CMS? > 5. What do you wish was different? > 6. Does the application think the CMS is just a special purpose database, > or does the CMS affect the application logic? > > I think that's enough to get me started with building a picture. I > appreciate your thoughts and assistance. > > I'm particularly interested in comments about the Wordpress CMS. /dps -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
