[webkit-dev] FOSDEM CrossDesktop DevRoom 2013 - Call for Talks
Hello, The Call for Talks for the CrossDesktop DevRoom at FOSDEM 2013 is now officially open. Please do not wait till the last minute! --8--- * FOSDEM is one of the largest gatherings of Free Software contributors in the world and happens each February in Brussels (Belgium). One of the tracks will be the CrossDesktop DevRoom, which will host Desktop-related talks. We are now inviting proposals for talks about Free/Libre/Open-source Software on the topics of Desktop development, Desktop applications and interoperativity amongst Desktop Environments. This is a unique opportunity to show novel ideas and developments to a wide technical audience. Topics accepted include, but are not limited to: Enlightenment, Gnome, KDE, Unity, XFCE, Windows, Mac OS X, general desktop matters, applications that enhance desktops and web (when related to desktop). Talks can be very specific, such as developing mobile applications with Qt Quick; or as general as predictions for the fusion of Desktop and web in 5 years time. Topics that are of interest to the users and developers of all desktop environments are especially welcome. The FOSDEM 2012 schedule might give you some inspiration: https://archive.fosdem.org/2012/schedule/track/crossdesktop_devroom.html https://archive.fosdem.org/2012/schedule/track/crossdesktop_devroom.html Please include the following information when submitting a proposal: - Your name - The title of your talk (please be descriptive, as titles will be listed with around 250 from other projects) - Short abstract of one or two paragraphs - Short bio - Requested time: from 15 to 45 minutes. Normal duration is 30 minutes. Longer duration requests must be properly justified. The deadline for submissions is December 14th 2012. FOSDEM will be held on the weekend of 2-3 February 2013. Please submit your proposals to crossdesktop-devr...@lists.fosdem.org (subscribtion page for the mailing list: https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/crossdesktop-devroom ) -- The CrossDesktop DevRoom 2013 Organization Team* --8--- -- Pau Garcia i Quiles http://www.elpauer.org (Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer) ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] Slide deck: How WebKit Works
Below are some slides I presented yesterday that give a high-level overview of how WebKit works: https://docs.google.com/presentation/pub?id=1ZRIQbUKw9Tf077odCh66OrrwRIVNLvI_nhLm2Gi__F0 Unfortunately, the talk was not recorded, but I wanted to share the slide deck in case they're useful to you. I've also added the link to http://www.webkit.org/coding/technical-articles.html. Thanks! Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Slide deck: How WebKit Works
It's a nice and well understandable overview! Thanks for sharing! Zoltan On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: Below are some slides I presented yesterday that give a high-level overview of how WebKit works: https://docs.google.com/presentation/pub?id=1ZRIQbUKw9Tf077odCh66OrrwRIVNLvI_nhLm2Gi__F0 Unfortunately, the talk was not recorded, but I wanted to share the slide deck in case they're useful to you. I've also added the link to http://www.webkit.org/coding/technical-articles.html. Thanks! Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Slide deck: How WebKit Works
Thanks so much for this! --Myles On Oct 31, 2012 11:39 AM, Zoltan Horvath zol...@webkit.org wrote: It's a nice and well understandable overview! Thanks for sharing! Zoltan On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: Below are some slides I presented yesterday that give a high-level overview of how WebKit works: https://docs.google.com/presentation/pub?id=1ZRIQbUKw9Tf077odCh66OrrwRIVNLvI_nhLm2Gi__F0 Unfortunately, the talk was not recorded, but I wanted to share the slide deck in case they're useful to you. I've also added the link to http://www.webkit.org/coding/technical-articles.html. Thanks! Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] moving focus when clicking on scrollbars
I'd like to r+ https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96335, but wanted to give a heads up in case anyone wants to object. Every native platform that has scrollbars does *not* move focus when you click on them. Every browser engine, except Gecko, moves focus when you click on scrollbars *unless* you're clicking on the viewport scrollbar (e.g. clicking on the scrollbar of an scrollable div that fills the viewport will move focus). Gecko does not move focus when you click on any scrollbar unless you are clicking on the scrollbar of a form control (e.g. textarea) scrollbar. I'd like to change our behavior to either match Gecko or go fully native and never move focus when clicking on scrollbars. The latter sounds better to me, but either solution would satisfy me. Any strong opinions/objections? We've already discussed this on whatwg and the feedback has been that this is up to browser vendors to match the platform conventions: http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2012-October/037676.html . Ojan ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] moving focus when clicking on scrollbars
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: Every native platform that has scrollbars does *not* move focus when you click on them. Every browser engine, except Gecko, moves focus when you click on scrollbars *unless* you're clicking on the viewport scrollbar (e.g. clicking on the scrollbar of an scrollable div that fills the viewport will move focus). Gecko does not move focus when you click on any scrollbar unless you are clicking on the scrollbar of a form control (e.g. textarea) scrollbar. I'd like to change our behavior to either match Gecko or go fully native and never move focus when clicking on scrollbars. The latter sounds better to me, but either solution would satisfy me. Is there rationale for Gecko's behavior? It sounds a bit strange. PK ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] moving focus when clicking on scrollbars
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@chromium.orgwrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: Every native platform that has scrollbars does *not* move focus when you click on them. Every browser engine, except Gecko, moves focus when you click on scrollbars *unless* you're clicking on the viewport scrollbar (e.g. clicking on the scrollbar of an scrollable div that fills the viewport will move focus). Gecko does not move focus when you click on any scrollbar unless you are clicking on the scrollbar of a form control (e.g. textarea) scrollbar. I'd like to change our behavior to either match Gecko or go fully native and never move focus when clicking on scrollbars. The latter sounds better to me, but either solution would satisfy me. Is there rationale for Gecko's behavior? It sounds a bit strange. Not that I know of. I haven't talked to anyone at Gecko about it though. In theory, I could conceive of the web depending on this. My preference would be to make all scrollbars not move focus and see if there is a web compat dependency since that solution is simpler and more consistent. ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] moving focus when clicking on scrollbars
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@chromium.orgwrote: Is there rationale for Gecko's behavior? It sounds a bit strange. Not that I know of. I haven't talked to anyone at Gecko about it though. Might be nice to try and find someone appropriate there to ping. Surprised the topic didn't come up as path of the whatwg discussions you mentioned (since it's usually good to understand why the world is the way it is as a starting point). PK ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] does anyone still use 'webkit-patch rebaseline-server'?
It is/was intended to be useful for quickly reviewing and rebaselining a bunch of failures in a local (on-disk) checkout. It's been largely unmaintained and ignored for quite some time in favor of garden-o-matic. I have recently started to land some patches that will make garden-o-matic work locally as well as with the bots, and it will ultimately replace rebaseline-server; I'm attempting to consolidate all of our different change-reviewing UIs so that they are more consistent and share more code. The local garden-o-matic should roughly work now, but the UI isn't well-tuned for this use case and there's some things left do to. If you have any features you would like to add to the garden-o-matic UI (or want to make sure are transferred over from rebaseline-server), now would be a good time to mention them. And, if no one speaks up to say that rebaseline-server is still being used, I will assume I can delete it when I'm ready to do so. Thanks! -- Dirk ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] moving focus when clicking on scrollbars
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@chromium.orgwrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@chromium.orgwrote: Is there rationale for Gecko's behavior? It sounds a bit strange. Not that I know of. I haven't talked to anyone at Gecko about it though. Might be nice to try and find someone appropriate there to ping. Surprised the topic didn't come up as path of the whatwg discussions you mentioned (since it's usually good to understand why the world is the way it is as a starting point). roc clarified that the Mozilla behavior is to move focus if the element is focusable. I'm OK with changing our behavior to match Gecko since that's a strict improvement in my view and it's arguable whether we should or shouldn't move focus when you click in the scrollbar of a mouse-focusable element. To be clear, the only change from our current behavior would be that when you click on a scrollbar of an element that is not mouse-focusable, we wouldn't move focus. This seems clearly superior to our current behavior and matches what we do for viewport scrollbars. Whether we should extend this to scrollbars of mouse-focusable elements can be a separate discussion. ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
