Re: [webkit-dev] Support for 10.8.5

[Mark Rowe]

On Apr 6, 2014, at 4:07, Rüdiger Cordes  wrote:

> Hello list,
>  
> with Webkit r164187 the support of 10.8.5 is dropped.
>  
> What is the reason for incompatibility?

If you’re seeing a problem with building or running on OS X 10.8.5, please file 
a bug report and provide details about the nature of the problem you’re seeing.

For what it’s worth, the Mountain Lion build bots (e.g., 
) 
appear to be building successfully.

- Mark

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Re: [webkit-dev] WebGL on by default?

[Timothy Hatcher]

On Apr 6, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Anatoly Ropotov  wrote:

> Is there a hope that either the next minor release will have WebGL turned on 
> by default or we'll have to wait for the next OS X to have WebGL enabled by 
> default (due to system-level security/sandboxing/energy consumption 
> concerns?). I've seen some recent commits on utilizing ANGLE here and there, 
> is there any ETA on rolling these things live and having WebGL turned on by 
> default?
> 
> WWDC is still months away, so I hope we could get some ETA/roadmap hints to 
> make a promise to our users and properly convey information on Apple stance 
> for this tech.

These questions are not appropriate for webkit-dev — they are more about Safari 
than WebKit. Apple does not comment on future product releases.

— Timothy Hatcher

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[webkit-dev] WebGL on by default?

[Anatoly Ropotov]

Hello WebKit,

With the advent of Emscripten, a lot of production quality products are
starting to appear utilizing WebGL as the rendering front-end. While the
technology is already enabled by default in Chrome, Firefox and even IE has
bumped spec support to 1.00 in the recently announced update of IE11,
WebKit still doesn't have it enabled by default on OS X and makes it very
cumbersome for end-users to enable it.

In our products during early tests, only 3% of Safari users have managed to
follow instructions on how to enable WebGL inside the browser - we've tried
multiple A/B tests from step-by-step guide with animated GIF overlays
explaining how to enable the technology, to step-by-step video, to
plain-text instructions. OS X/Safari users expect things to "just work" and
are super confused when they are asked to touch any settings.
Unfortunately, we had to revert back to "Please switch to browser X/Y to
use this product" landing page as it showed better conversions.
(The product, a cross-platform game, works really well across dozens of
test machines when WebGL is turned on and works silk smooth in all other
browsers).

http://monosnap.com/image/0T4WZkeHU063eOtpAK3ljmMTvqpUyN
https://cr-static2.innowate.com/images/webgl_safari/gif_howto_step_01.gif
https://cr-static2.innowate.com/images/webgl_safari/gif_howto_step_02a.gif
https://cr-static2.innowate.com/images/webgl_safari/gif_howto_step_02b.gif
https://cr-static2.innowate.com/images/webgl_safari/gif_howto_step_03.gif

Is there a hope that either the next minor release will have WebGL turned
on by default or we'll have to wait for the next OS X to have WebGL enabled
by default (due to system-level security/sandboxing/energy consumption
concerns?). I've seen some recent commits on utilizing ANGLE here and
there, is there any ETA on rolling these things live and having WebGL
turned on by default?

WWDC is still months away, so I hope we could get some ETA/roadmap hints to
make a promise to our users and properly convey information on Apple stance
for this tech.

-- 
Anatoly Ropotov
Chief Experience Officer, Game Insight 
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Re: [webkit-dev] PDF: context menu and view mode

[Rüdiger Cordes]

Webkit r153570 is using the old context menu
whereas r153759 to r153875 are asking for a plug-in.
Eventually r153882 is using the new context menu.

So Webkit in combination with 10.8.5 and Safari 6.0.5
can use both different context menus. Dependent from
the release version.

My hope is that I can find a switch to select the context
menu I want to use. Maybe with a Safari extension?

Any help is appreciated.

Kind regards,
Rüdiger


> Tim Horton  hat am 6. April 2014 um 11:21
> geschrieben:
> 
The context menu for PDFs is not implemented in WebKit, so this list isn’t the
right place to register complaints — any bugs regarding it should be filed in
Apple’s bug tracker ( ).

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[webkit-dev] Support for 10.8.5

[Rüdiger Cordes]

Hello list,

with Webkit r164187 the support of 10.8.5 is dropped.

What is the reason for incompatibility?

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Re: [webkit-dev] PDF: context menu and view mode

[Rüdiger Cordes]

Hello Timothy,

I did this but without any response.
Thank you to make clear that webkit
has nothing to do with it.

Rüdiger


> Tim Horton  hat am 6. April 2014 um 11:21
> geschrieben:
>  The context menu for PDFs is not implemented in WebKit, so this list isn’t
> the right place to register complaints — any bugs regarding it should be filed
> in Apple’s bug tracker ( ).
> 
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Re: [webkit-dev] PDF: context menu and view mode

[Tim Horton]

On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:00 AM, Rüdiger Cordes  wrote:

> Hello list,
>  
> this is my first mail and I want so say "Hi" to you.
>  
> The reason why I entered this list:
> I would like to know why the context menu for opened
> PDFs in Safari has changed after r153570 in r153759.

The context menu for PDFs is not implemented in WebKit, so this list isn’t the 
right place to register complaints — any bugs regarding it should be filed in 
Apple’s bug tracker (bugreport.apple.com).

Thanks!

—Tim

> I have a web application and it is important for me and
> my 400 customers to have the old context menu.
>  
> Also annoying is the way PDFs are displayed.
>  
> Everytime they are displayed at full window width.
> Having a 30" Cinema Display you could imagine
> that I don't want to have a microscope view to PDFs.
>  
> When I change the view to original size or two pages
> it is not remembered. This is also a lack of comfort.
>  
> I am generating PDFs with FPDF and need to control
> many times what I have programmed/generated.
> And when everytime the PDF is displayed in full width
> mode I have to switch to an appropriate view for
> viewing my work every time!
>  
> I hope that you understand my situation and it would
> be nice to have a solution for it.
>  
> Thanks in advance,
> Rüdiger
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[webkit-dev] PDF: context menu and view mode

[Rüdiger Cordes]

Hello list,

this is my first mail and I want so say "Hi" to you.

The reason why I entered this list:
I would like to know why the context menu for opened
PDFs in Safari has changed after r153570 in r153759.

I have a web application and it is important for me and
my 400 customers to have the old context menu.

Also annoying is the way PDFs are displayed.

Everytime they are displayed at full window width.
Having a 30" Cinema Display you could imagine
that I don't want to have a microscope view to PDFs.

When I change the view to original size or two pages
it is not remembered. This is also a lack of comfort.

I am generating PDFs with FPDF and need to control
many times what I have programmed/generated.
And when everytime the PDF is displayed in full width
mode I have to switch to an appropriate view for
viewing my work every time!

I hope that you understand my situation and it would
be nice to have a solution for it.

Thanks in advance,
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