Re: [webkit-dev] Please be careful with webkitpy changes!

2015-04-01 Thread Brent Fulgham
The Windows EWS bots process patches fairly quickly. Once I corrected the 
problem today, it managed to process about 97 patches in about an hour.

I do think one bottleneck is due to individual EWS bots “locking” patches. The 
first bot to reach a patch locks the patch against other bots handling it. If 
the patch happens to be ‘consumed’ be a bot with some kind of problem (e.g., 
bad local configuration, a full disk drive, etc.), that patch will not be 
touched again — even if the other eight EWS bots are sitting dormant.

Is there some other processing metric you are concerned about?

 Brent Fulgham - Apple Inc.



 On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
 
 
 Is it possible to make EWS start processing changes more promptly?
 
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Brent Fulgham bfulg...@apple.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 We lost Windows EWS coverage for the past 36 hours due to a very 
 benign-appearing change to some webkitpy code. I haven’t yet figured out why 
 this particular set of changes caused the Windows bots to start failing, but 
 it has to do with various differences between the Cygwin Python 2.7.8 build 
 and the versions used on our other EWS bots.
 
 This does not seem like something developers SHOULD have to worry about, but 
 it’s an unfortunately reality that they really do need to.
 
 To make matters worse, the patch that introduced the problem passed EWS. 
 This is because the EWS bots only really begin using changes to webkitpy 
 when they restart processing (about once every 10-13 build iterations).
 
 To help combat this problem, I’d like to request that when making changes to 
 webkitpy, please keep an eye on the various EWS bots to make sure they 
 continue processing. If they do start failing, please roll the patch back 
 out and we can work together to resolve the issue.
 
 I apologize for how manual and inconvenient this needs to be (at least for 
 now), but keeping the EWS up and running is critical to the smooth function 
 of this project.
 
 If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to e-mail me or look for me 
 on IRC.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Brent
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Re: [webkit-dev] Please be careful with webkitpy changes!

2015-04-01 Thread Adam Barth
On Apr 1, 2015 9:29 PM, Brent Fulgham bfulg...@apple.com wrote:

 The Windows EWS bots process patches fairly quickly. Once I corrected the
problem today, it managed to process about 97 patches in about an hour.

 I do think one bottleneck is due to individual EWS bots “locking”
patches. The first bot to reach a patch locks the patch against other bots
handling it. If the patch happens to be ‘consumed’ be a bot with some kind
of problem (e.g., bad local configuration, a full disk drive, etc.), that
patch will not be touched again — even if the other eight EWS bots are
sitting dormant.

It might be worth adding the ability for a bot to unlock a patch when it
detects a problem with itself.  We didn't have that originally because we
were paranoid about handling the case of an unclean bot shutdown and
wanted to make sure we got a lot of experience with that case.  At this
point, it's probably an overly paranoid design.

Adam

 Is there some other processing metric you are concerned about?

  Brent Fulgham - Apple Inc.



 On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:


 Is it possible to make EWS start processing changes more promptly?

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Brent Fulgham bfulg...@apple.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 We lost Windows EWS coverage for the past 36 hours due to a very
benign-appearing change to some webkitpy code. I haven’t yet figured out
why this particular set of changes caused the Windows bots to start
failing, but it has to do with various differences between the Cygwin
Python 2.7.8 build and the versions used on our other EWS bots.

 This does not seem like something developers SHOULD have to worry
about, but it’s an unfortunately reality that they really do need to.

 To make matters worse, the patch that introduced the problem passed
EWS. This is because the EWS bots only really begin using changes to
webkitpy when they restart processing (about once every 10-13 build
iterations).

 To help combat this problem, I’d like to request that when making
changes to webkitpy, please keep an eye on the various EWS bots to make
sure they continue processing. If they do start failing, please roll the
patch back out and we can work together to resolve the issue.

 I apologize for how manual and inconvenient this needs to be (at least
for now), but keeping the EWS up and running is critical to the smooth
function of this project.

 If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to e-mail me or look
for me on IRC.

 Thanks!

 -Brent
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[webkit-dev] Please be careful with webkitpy changes!

2015-04-01 Thread Brent Fulgham
Hi Everyone,

We lost Windows EWS coverage for the past 36 hours due to a very 
benign-appearing change to some webkitpy code. I haven’t yet figured out why 
this particular set of changes caused the Windows bots to start failing, but it 
has to do with various differences between the Cygwin Python 2.7.8 build and 
the versions used on our other EWS bots.

This does not seem like something developers SHOULD have to worry about, but 
it’s an unfortunately reality that they really do need to.

To make matters worse, the patch that introduced the problem passed EWS. This 
is because the EWS bots only really begin using changes to webkitpy when they 
restart processing (about once every 10-13 build iterations).

To help combat this problem, I’d like to request that when making changes to 
webkitpy, please keep an eye on the various EWS bots to make sure they continue 
processing. If they do start failing, please roll the patch back out and we can 
work together to resolve the issue.

I apologize for how manual and inconvenient this needs to be (at least for 
now), but keeping the EWS up and running is critical to the smooth function of 
this project.

If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to e-mail me or look for me on 
IRC.

Thanks!

-Brent
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Re: [webkit-dev] Please be careful with webkitpy changes!

2015-04-01 Thread Maciej Stachowiak

Is it possible to make EWS start processing changes more promptly?

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Brent Fulgham bfulg...@apple.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 We lost Windows EWS coverage for the past 36 hours due to a very 
 benign-appearing change to some webkitpy code. I haven’t yet figured out why 
 this particular set of changes caused the Windows bots to start failing, but 
 it has to do with various differences between the Cygwin Python 2.7.8 build 
 and the versions used on our other EWS bots.
 
 This does not seem like something developers SHOULD have to worry about, but 
 it’s an unfortunately reality that they really do need to.
 
 To make matters worse, the patch that introduced the problem passed EWS. This 
 is because the EWS bots only really begin using changes to webkitpy when they 
 restart processing (about once every 10-13 build iterations).
 
 To help combat this problem, I’d like to request that when making changes to 
 webkitpy, please keep an eye on the various EWS bots to make sure they 
 continue processing. If they do start failing, please roll the patch back out 
 and we can work together to resolve the issue.
 
 I apologize for how manual and inconvenient this needs to be (at least for 
 now), but keeping the EWS up and running is critical to the smooth function 
 of this project.
 
 If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to e-mail me or look for me 
 on IRC.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Brent
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