Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-05-08 Thread Alexis Menard
Hi,

Many contributors in #webkit have problems to connect to bugs.webkit.org.

Wiliam could you look at it?

Thanks.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia
je...@webkit.org wrote:
 It's back! :)

 cheers,
 jesus


 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.com
 wrote:

 I think you have the same problem as Gustavo. His email to webkit-dev
 seems to imply a problem in between Brazil and webkit.org.

 -Bill


 On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Alexis Menard wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I can't also access from home : IP - 186.215.1.122
 
  Thanks.
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:05 PM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.com
  wrote:
  If you are still having trouble access the site, send me your IP
  address and
  I will see if its anything on the server.
 
  -Bill
 
 
 
 
  On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:
 
  I'm also in Brazil and I can confirm it doesn't work for me as well.
 
  I guess kov is also in Brazil and I just saw him mentioning on IRC that
   both bugs.webkit.org and git.webkit.org are timing out...
 
  Cheers,
  Jesus
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:
 
  http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
 
  (It's up for me too).
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org
  wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexis Menard
  alexis.men...@openbossa.org wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org,
  trace.webkit.org,
  …).
 
 
  I can confirm here in Maryland, USA that www, bugs, trac, etc. are
  all
  up.
 
 
 
  Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different
  internet providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS
  with no
  luck.
 
 
  Might you try OpenDNS?  208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220
 
 
  Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is
  affected
  (maybe only people outside US?).
 
  Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at
  them?
 
  Thank you very much.
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Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-05-08 Thread Balazs Kelemen

On 05/08/2012 01:40 PM, Alexis Menard wrote:

Hi,

Many contributors in #webkit have problems to connect to bugs.webkit.org.

Wiliam could you look at it?

Thanks.


Problems here at Szeged as well. Trac, svn, bugzilla is dumb, however I 
have no problem with #webkit.




On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia
je...@webkit.org  wrote:

It's back! :)

cheers,
jesus


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, William Siegristwsiegr...@apple.com
wrote:

I think you have the same problem as Gustavo. His email to webkit-dev
seems to imply a problem in between Brazil and webkit.org.

-Bill


On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Alexis Menard wrote:


Hi,

I can't also access from home : IP -  186.215.1.122

Thanks.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:05 PM, William Siegristwsiegr...@apple.com
wrote:

If you are still having trouble access the site, send me your IP
address and
I will see if its anything on the server.

-Bill




On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:

I'm also in Brazil and I can confirm it doesn't work for me as well.

I guess kov is also in Brazil and I just saw him mentioning on IRC that
 both bugs.webkit.org and git.webkit.org are timing out...

Cheers,
Jesus

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Philip Rogersp...@google.com  wrote:

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

(It's up for me too).


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jarred Nichollsjar...@webkit.org
wrote:

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexis Menard
alexis.men...@openbossa.org  wrote:

Hi,

It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org,
trace.webkit.org,
…).


I can confirm here in Maryland, USA that www, bugs, trac, etc. are
all
up.



Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different
internet providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS
with no
luck.


Might you try OpenDNS?  208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220


Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is
affected
(maybe only people outside US?).

Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at
them?

Thank you very much.
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Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-05-08 Thread William Siegrist
All services have been restored.

-Bill



On May 8, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Balazs Kelemen wrote:

 On 05/08/2012 01:40 PM, Alexis Menard wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Many contributors in #webkit have problems to connect to bugs.webkit.org.
 
 Wiliam could you look at it?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Problems here at Szeged as well. Trac, svn, bugzilla is dumb, however I have 
 no problem with #webkit.
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia
 je...@webkit.org  wrote:
 It's back! :)
 
 cheers,
 jesus
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, William Siegristwsiegr...@apple.com
 wrote:
 I think you have the same problem as Gustavo. His email to webkit-dev
 seems to imply a problem in between Brazil and webkit.org.
 
 -Bill
 
 
 On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Alexis Menard wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I can't also access from home : IP -  186.215.1.122
 
 Thanks.
 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:05 PM, William Siegristwsiegr...@apple.com
 wrote:
 If you are still having trouble access the site, send me your IP
 address and
 I will see if its anything on the server.
 
 -Bill
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:
 
 I'm also in Brazil and I can confirm it doesn't work for me as well.
 
 I guess kov is also in Brazil and I just saw him mentioning on IRC that
  both bugs.webkit.org and git.webkit.org are timing out...
 
 Cheers,
 Jesus
 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Philip Rogersp...@google.com  wrote:
 http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
 
 (It's up for me too).
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jarred Nichollsjar...@webkit.org
 wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexis Menard
 alexis.men...@openbossa.org  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org,
 trace.webkit.org,
 …).
 
 I can confirm here in Maryland, USA that www, bugs, trac, etc. are
 all
 up.
 
 
 Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different
 internet providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS
 with no
 luck.
 
 Might you try OpenDNS?  208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220
 
 Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is
 affected
 (maybe only people outside US?).
 
 Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at
 them?
 
 Thank you very much.
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[webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-01-19 Thread Alexis Menard
Hi,

It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org, trace.webkit.org, …).

Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different internet 
providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS with no luck.

Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is affected (maybe 
only people outside US?).

Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at them?

Thank you very much.
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Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-01-19 Thread Alexis Menard

On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Alexis Menard wrote:

 Hi,
 
 It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org, trace.webkit.org, …).

I meant trac.webkit.org (Mac OS Lion auto-correction is too efficient).

 
 Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different internet 
 providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS with no luck.
 
 Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is affected 
 (maybe only people outside US?).
 
 Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at them?
 
 Thank you very much.

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Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-01-19 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


20.01.2012, 00:19, Alexis Menard alexis.men...@openbossa.org:
 Hi,

 It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org, trace.webkit.org, …).

 Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different internet 
 providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS with no luck.

 Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is affected 
 (maybe only people outside US?).

 Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at them?

For Moscow both sites are up.

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Konstantin
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Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-01-19 Thread Jarred Nicholls
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexis Menard
alexis.men...@openbossa.orgwrote:

 Hi,

 It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org, trace.webkit.org,
 …).


I can confirm here in Maryland, USA that www, bugs, trac, etc. are all up.



 Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different
 internet providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS with no
 luck.


Might you try OpenDNS?  208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220


 Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is affected
 (maybe only people outside US?).

 Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at them?

 Thank you very much.
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Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-01-19 Thread Philip Rogers
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

(It's up for me too).

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexis Menard 
 alexis.men...@openbossa.org wrote:

 Hi,

 It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org, trace.webkit.org,
 …).


 I can confirm here in Maryland, USA that www, bugs, trac, etc. are all up.



 Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different
 internet providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS with no
 luck.


 Might you try OpenDNS?  208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220


 Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is affected
 (maybe only people outside US?).

 Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at them?

 Thank you very much.
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 webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
 http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev



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Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-01-19 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Hey Bill,

Still having trouble, my IP is 186.213.109.123, but it looks like the
problem is in the path between Brazil and your datacenter. Huge packet
losses as soon as we get into the telefonica network:

kov@goiaba ~ mtr -w -r -c 100 bugs.webkit.org
HOST: goiaba
Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
[…]
  4.|-- 187.115.193.162.static.host.gvt.net.br  
   0.0%   1005.0   9.9   4.8 137.1  20.6
  5.|-- 187.115.215.54.static.host.gvt.net.br   
   0.0%   1009.1  12.2   5.1  23.3   4.0
  6.|-- 187.115.216.33.static.host.gvt.net.br   
   0.0%   100   18.4  21.4  13.3  34.3   4.1
  7.|-- 187.115.216.157.static.host.gvt.net.br  
   0.0%   100   37.8  40.5  36.8  56.5   4.4
  8.|-- 187.115.216.174.static.host.gvt.net.br  
   0.0%   100   37.9  38.3  37.0  52.2   2.4
  9.|-- Xe0-1-0-0-grtssatw1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net.7.16.84.in-addr.arpa   
  91.0%   100  215.4 225.5 213.9 302.6  28.9
 10.|-- Xe5-2-0-0-grtfortw1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
  86.0%   100  239.6 221.7 214.6 239.6   5.9
 11.|-- 
Xe11-0-0-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net.123.142.94.in-addr.arpa 90.0% 
  100  243.9 231.7 215.0 274.1  19.0
 12.|-- Xe0-1-6-0-grtmiana3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
  91.0%   100  214.0 233.6 214.0 345.1  42.9
|  `|-- 176.52.249.150
|   |-- 94.142.119.229
|   |-- 213.140.36.89
|   |-- 94.142.123.1
|   |-- 176.52.249.146
|   |-- 213.140.37.77
|   |-- 213.140.43.141
 13.|-- Xe3-0-0-0-grtmcacc1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
  93.0%   100  213.9 216.4 210.7 220.1   3.5
|  `|-- 213.140.37.25
 14.|-- 
GE4-3-2-0-gramtyma2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net.127.142.94.in-addr.arpa  87.0% 
  100  215.7 214.7 212.7 216.8   1.3
 15.|-- 84.16.14.50 
  86.0%   100  217.1 216.3 212.8 222.1   2.6
 16.|-- 
Xe1-1-1-0-grtdaleq3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net.122.142.94.in-addr.arpa  88.9% 
   99  210.4 226.8 210.4 274.0  23.1
 17.|-- 192.205.35.249  
  90.8%98  222.6 227.4 213.9 263.1  17.4
|  `|-- 213.140.53.62
 18.|-- cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net
  83.7%98  263.8 262.5 258.6 265.6   2.5
 19.|-- cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net
  85.6%97  260.6 269.4 260.6 315.9  15.2
 20.|-- cr2.sffca.ip.att.net
  83.3%96  260.9 263.6 255.1 272.3   3.8
 21.|-- cr84.sffca.ip.att.net   
  84.2%95  260.7 261.3 259.0 263.7   1.4
 22.|-- gar1.placa.ip.att.net   
  86.2%94  256.3 261.6 256.3 291.7   9.2
 23.|-- ??? 
  100.0930.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 24.|-- ??? 
  100.0900.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 25.|-- ??? 
  100.0900.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 26.|-- bugs.webkit.org 
  89.9%89  259.8 261.6 258.3 265.9   2.5

The good news is the path to us.logon.battle.net is fine, so we can go
play WoW instead of hacking WebKit =X

Cheers,

On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 13:05 -0800, William Siegrist wrote:
 If you are still having trouble access the site, send me your IP
 address and I will see if its anything on the server. 
 
 
 -Bill
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:
 
  I'm also in Brazil and I can confirm it doesn't work for me as well.
  
  
  I guess kov is also in Brazil and I just saw him mentioning on IRC
  that  both bugs.webkit.org and git.webkit.org are timing out...
  
  
  Cheers,
  Jesus
  
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com
  wrote:
  http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
  
  
  (It's up for me too).
  
  
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jarred Nicholls
  jar...@webkit.org wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexis Menard
  alexis.men...@openbossa.org wrote:
  Hi,
  
  It seems that *.webkit.org are down
  (bugs.webkit.org, trace.webkit.org, …).
  
  
  I can confirm here in Maryland, USA that www, bugs,
  trac, etc. are all up.
   
  
  Here in Brazil we can't access to 

Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-01-19 Thread William Siegrist
If you are still having trouble access the site, send me your IP address and I 
will see if its anything on the server. 

-Bill




On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:

 I'm also in Brazil and I can confirm it doesn't work for me as well.
 
 I guess kov is also in Brazil and I just saw him mentioning on IRC that  
 both bugs.webkit.org and git.webkit.org are timing out...
 
 Cheers,
 Jesus
 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:
 http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
 
 (It's up for me too).
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexis Menard alexis.men...@openbossa.org 
 wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org, trace.webkit.org, …).
 
 I can confirm here in Maryland, USA that www, bugs, trac, etc. are all up.
  
 
 Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different internet 
 providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS with no luck. 
 
 Might you try OpenDNS?  208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220
 
 
 Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is affected 
 (maybe only people outside US?).
 
 Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at them?
 
 Thank you very much.
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Re: [webkit-dev] *.webkit.org is down

2012-01-19 Thread Jesus Sanchez-Palencia
It's back! :)

cheers,
jesus

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 I think you have the same problem as Gustavo. His email to webkit-dev
 seems to imply a problem in between Brazil and webkit.org.

 -Bill


 On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Alexis Menard wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I can't also access from home : IP - 186.215.1.122
 
  Thanks.
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:05 PM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.com
 wrote:
  If you are still having trouble access the site, send me your IP
 address and
  I will see if its anything on the server.
 
  -Bill
 
 
 
 
  On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:
 
  I'm also in Brazil and I can confirm it doesn't work for me as well.
 
  I guess kov is also in Brazil and I just saw him mentioning on IRC that
   both bugs.webkit.org and git.webkit.org are timing out...
 
  Cheers,
  Jesus
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:
 
  http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
 
  (It's up for me too).
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org
  wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexis Menard
  alexis.men...@openbossa.org wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  It seems that *.webkit.org are down (bugs.webkit.org,
 trace.webkit.org,
  …).
 
 
  I can confirm here in Maryland, USA that www, bugs, trac, etc. are all
  up.
 
 
 
  Here in Brazil we can't access to any of them. I tried two different
  internet providers with their own DNS and I even tried google DNS
 with no
  luck.
 
 
  Might you try OpenDNS?  208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220
 
 
  Talking to some people in #webkit it seems that not everyone is
 affected
  (maybe only people outside US?).
 
  Anyone who knows where the servers sits would mind to have a look at
  them?
 
  Thank you very much.
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