Re: [webkit-dev] Using Visual Studio 2010 for Apple's Windows WebKit port
On Jan 31, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: How hard will the transition be? If it's going to take a lot of time and cause a lot of churn anyway, would this be a good time to try and make that port use GYP or CMake? (I assume the answer is probably no, but figured it was worth asking anyway. :-) VS2010 includes a project conversion wizard that can convert projects from VS2005 (and presumably VS2008) format to VS2010. We've tried it previously on WebKit and it seemed to work just fine with only minor issues. The goal of having fewer project files is a worthy one, however. Patrick Gansterer offered to code up a patch to build Apple's Windows port using the existing CMake build system, which will be very interesting to see! -Adam On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Peter Kasting wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: Please let me (and the list) know if this change will cause you trouble, and if there's something we can do to make the transition easier. This may make life hard on Chromium as right now we don't support building with VS2010. We are working on adding support (I think http://crbug.com/25628 may be the closest bug). I'm not sure what time frame that will happen in. I don't think we have any plans to drop VS2005 support. If WebKit drops support it may force us to do so as well. In both cases above we're not so much impacted by vcproj/sln changes (since we use GYP to construct our vcproj and sln files) as we are by code changes, e.g. code that requires VS2010 to build correctly. I doubt that maintaining compatibility with VS2005's compiler would be an issue. As long as there's an EWS and/or buildbot to catch problems, we should be able to work around any compiler differences. I didn't mean to imply that we'd intentionally break compilation with VS2005's compiler; all I meant was that using VS2005 to build Apple's port would no longer be supported. -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Using Visual Studio 2010 for Apple's Windows WebKit port
I regularly build qtwebkit with VS2010 so the only real issue should be with project files. I did use the conversion wizard once on webkit/chromium and was able to build successfully with only a couple of minor tweaks. I'd be happy to do the legwork on the VS2010 upgrade if it'd help. -Jake On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: How hard will the transition be? If it's going to take a lot of time and cause a lot of churn anyway, would this be a good time to try and make that port use GYP or CMake? (I assume the answer is probably no, but figured it was worth asking anyway. :-) VS2010 includes a project conversion wizard that can convert projects from VS2005 (and presumably VS2008) format to VS2010. We've tried it previously on WebKit and it seemed to work just fine with only minor issues. The goal of having fewer project files is a worthy one, however. Patrick Gansterer offered to code up a patch to build Apple's Windows port using the existing CMake build system, which will be very interesting to see! -Adam On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Peter Kasting wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: Please let me (and the list) know if this change will cause you trouble, and if there's something we can do to make the transition easier. This may make life hard on Chromium as right now we don't support building with VS2010. We are working on adding support (I think http://crbug.com/25628 may be the closest bug). I'm not sure what time frame that will happen in. I don't think we have any plans to drop VS2005 support. If WebKit drops support it may force us to do so as well. In both cases above we're not so much impacted by vcproj/sln changes (since we use GYP to construct our vcproj and sln files) as we are by code changes, e.g. code that requires VS2010 to build correctly. I doubt that maintaining compatibility with VS2005's compiler would be an issue. As long as there's an EWS and/or buildbot to catch problems, we should be able to work around any compiler differences. I didn't mean to imply that we'd intentionally break compilation with VS2005's compiler; all I meant was that using VS2005 to build Apple's port would no longer be supported. -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Using Visual Studio 2010 for Apple's Windows WebKit port
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: How hard will the transition be? If it's going to take a lot of time and cause a lot of churn anyway, would this be a good time to try and make that port use GYP or CMake? (I assume the answer is probably no, but figured it was worth asking anyway. :-) Eric and I are experimenting with GYP and CMake, but we don't have much to report at this time. Stay tuned? Adam On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Peter Kasting wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: Please let me (and the list) know if this change will cause you trouble, and if there's something we can do to make the transition easier. This may make life hard on Chromium as right now we don't support building with VS2010. We are working on adding support (I think http://crbug.com/25628 may be the closest bug). I'm not sure what time frame that will happen in. I don't think we have any plans to drop VS2005 support. If WebKit drops support it may force us to do so as well. In both cases above we're not so much impacted by vcproj/sln changes (since we use GYP to construct our vcproj and sln files) as we are by code changes, e.g. code that requires VS2010 to build correctly. I doubt that maintaining compatibility with VS2005's compiler would be an issue. As long as there's an EWS and/or buildbot to catch problems, we should be able to work around any compiler differences. I didn't mean to imply that we'd intentionally break compilation with VS2005's compiler; all I meant was that using VS2005 to build Apple's port would no longer be supported. -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] Using Visual Studio 2010 for Apple's Windows WebKit port
Hi all- We'd like to switch Apple's Windows WebKit port to build with Visual Studio 2010 sometime in the next 6-8 months, and to drop support for building with Visual Studio 2005 at the same time. The biggest consequence of this will be that anyone wishing to build Apple's Windows port will have to switch from VS2005/VC++ Express 2005 to VS2010 or VC++ Express 2010. This change should not affect applications that use WebKit, as we don't pass memory ownership across the WebKit API boundary (i.e., mallocing memory inside WebKit for the application to free later, or vice-versa). I wanted to send this email as a heads-up for Windows developers. People working on the Cairo/libcurl/CFLite port, which shares project files with Apple's port, need to be especially aware of this change, since it will require converting our .vcproj/.vsprops files to the VS2010 format. Please let me (and the list) know if this change will cause you trouble, and if there's something we can do to make the transition easier. You can also comment in http://webkit.org/b/53445, which tracks this effort. Thanks! -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Using Visual Studio 2010 for Apple's Windows WebKit port
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: Please let me (and the list) know if this change will cause you trouble, and if there's something we can do to make the transition easier. This may make life hard on Chromium as right now we don't support building with VS2010. We are working on adding support (I think http://crbug.com/25628 may be the closest bug). I'm not sure what time frame that will happen in. I don't think we have any plans to drop VS2005 support. If WebKit drops support it may force us to do so as well. In both cases above we're not so much impacted by vcproj/sln changes (since we use GYP to construct our vcproj and sln files) as we are by code changes, e.g. code that requires VS2010 to build correctly. PK ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Using Visual Studio 2010 for Apple's Windows WebKit port
On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Peter Kasting wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: Please let me (and the list) know if this change will cause you trouble, and if there's something we can do to make the transition easier. This may make life hard on Chromium as right now we don't support building with VS2010. We are working on adding support (I think http://crbug.com/25628 may be the closest bug). I'm not sure what time frame that will happen in. I don't think we have any plans to drop VS2005 support. If WebKit drops support it may force us to do so as well. In both cases above we're not so much impacted by vcproj/sln changes (since we use GYP to construct our vcproj and sln files) as we are by code changes, e.g. code that requires VS2010 to build correctly. I doubt that maintaining compatibility with VS2005's compiler would be an issue. As long as there's an EWS and/or buildbot to catch problems, we should be able to work around any compiler differences. I didn't mean to imply that we'd intentionally break compilation with VS2005's compiler; all I meant was that using VS2005 to build Apple's port would no longer be supported. -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Using Visual Studio 2010 for Apple's Windows WebKit port
How hard will the transition be? If it's going to take a lot of time and cause a lot of churn anyway, would this be a good time to try and make that port use GYP or CMake? (I assume the answer is probably no, but figured it was worth asking anyway. :-) J On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Peter Kasting wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Adam Roben aro...@apple.com wrote: Please let me (and the list) know if this change will cause you trouble, and if there's something we can do to make the transition easier. This may make life hard on Chromium as right now we don't support building with VS2010. We are working on adding support (I think http://crbug.com/25628 may be the closest bug). I'm not sure what time frame that will happen in. I don't think we have any plans to drop VS2005 support. If WebKit drops support it may force us to do so as well. In both cases above we're not so much impacted by vcproj/sln changes (since we use GYP to construct our vcproj and sln files) as we are by code changes, e.g. code that requires VS2010 to build correctly. I doubt that maintaining compatibility with VS2005's compiler would be an issue. As long as there's an EWS and/or buildbot to catch problems, we should be able to work around any compiler differences. I didn't mean to imply that we'd intentionally break compilation with VS2005's compiler; all I meant was that using VS2005 to build Apple's port would no longer be supported. -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
