[webkit-dev] Why vendor-specific attributes in CSS3 parsing engine?

2011-05-18 Thread Sabri Aurrelia
Why does webkit not provide support for native CSS3 attributes in its 
parsing engine where those attributes clearly coincide with most other 
browsers' attributes -and- the Candidate Recommendations set forth by W3?


Let me put it this way:  What is the purpose of every browser having 
their own nearly-identically named attributes that take the same 
arguments, which are also the same as the attributes set forth in the 
Candidate Recommendation?


What makes -webkit-column-gap and -moz-column-gap and column-gap 
different from each other aside from the name, and if that's true, why 
is there even a name difference?


Is it a waiting game?  Or is it possible to take the initiative and 
adopt early the attributes recommended?  Is there too much risk involved 
in early adoption even where there's already nearly complete consensus 
among vendors?


--M.Pemrich

Matthew A. Pemrich
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Re: [webkit-dev] Why vendor-specific attributes in CSS3 parsing engine?

2011-05-18 Thread Simon Fraser
On May 18, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Sabri Aurrelia wrote:

 Why does webkit not provide support for native CSS3 attributes in its parsing 
 engine where those attributes clearly coincide with most other browsers' 
 attributes -and- the Candidate Recommendations set forth by W3?
 
 Let me put it this way:  What is the purpose of every browser having their 
 own nearly-identically named attributes that take the same arguments, which 
 are also the same as the attributes set forth in the Candidate Recommendation?
 
 What makes -webkit-column-gap and -moz-column-gap and column-gap different 
 from each other aside from the name, and if that's true, why is there even a 
 name difference?
 
 Is it a waiting game?  Or is it possible to take the initiative and adopt 
 early the attributes recommended?  Is there too much risk involved in early 
 adoption even where there's already nearly complete consensus among vendors?

Vendor prefixes remain on new properties until the draft spec that describes 
them reaches Candidate Recommendation status.

A Google search for CSS3 vendor prefix will turn up lots of discussion on the 
www-style mailing list about this.

Simon

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Re: [webkit-dev] Why vendor-specific attributes in CSS3 parsing engine?

2011-05-18 Thread Brady Duga
Though, in this case, the spec is at CR and has been since 2009. Is there an
additional process to removing the vendor prefixes for WebKit? So, are they
still there because no one bothered to remove them, or because the consensus
is they should remain for some reason?

--Brady

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Simon Fraser simon.fra...@apple.comwrote:

 On May 18, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Sabri Aurrelia wrote:

  Why does webkit not provide support for native CSS3 attributes in its
 parsing engine where those attributes clearly coincide with most other
 browsers' attributes -and- the Candidate Recommendations set forth by W3?
 
  Let me put it this way:  What is the purpose of every browser having
 their own nearly-identically named attributes that take the same arguments,
 which are also the same as the attributes set forth in the Candidate
 Recommendation?
 
  What makes -webkit-column-gap and -moz-column-gap and column-gap
 different from each other aside from the name, and if that's true, why is
 there even a name difference?
 
  Is it a waiting game?  Or is it possible to take the initiative and adopt
 early the attributes recommended?  Is there too much risk involved in early
 adoption even where there's already nearly complete consensus among vendors?

 Vendor prefixes remain on new properties until the draft spec that
 describes them reaches Candidate Recommendation status.

 A Google search for CSS3 vendor prefix will turn up lots of discussion on
 the www-style mailing list about this.

 Simon

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Re: [webkit-dev] Why vendor-specific attributes in CSS3 parsing engine?

2011-05-18 Thread Simon Fraser
The best way to move forward would be to file a bug requesting that the 
prefixes be removed.

Simon

On May 18, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Brady Duga wrote:

 Though, in this case, the spec is at CR and has been since 2009. Is there an 
 additional process to removing the vendor prefixes for WebKit? So, are they 
 still there because no one bothered to remove them, or because the consensus 
 is they should remain for some reason?
 
 --Brady
 
 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Simon Fraser simon.fra...@apple.com wrote:
 On May 18, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Sabri Aurrelia wrote:
 
  Why does webkit not provide support for native CSS3 attributes in its 
  parsing engine where those attributes clearly coincide with most other 
  browsers' attributes -and- the Candidate Recommendations set forth by W3?
 
  Let me put it this way:  What is the purpose of every browser having their 
  own nearly-identically named attributes that take the same arguments, which 
  are also the same as the attributes set forth in the Candidate 
  Recommendation?
 
  What makes -webkit-column-gap and -moz-column-gap and column-gap different 
  from each other aside from the name, and if that's true, why is there even 
  a name difference?
 
  Is it a waiting game?  Or is it possible to take the initiative and adopt 
  early the attributes recommended?  Is there too much risk involved in early 
  adoption even where there's already nearly complete consensus among vendors?
 
 Vendor prefixes remain on new properties until the draft spec that describes 
 them reaches Candidate Recommendation status.
 
 A Google search for CSS3 vendor prefix will turn up lots of discussion on 
 the www-style mailing list about this.
 
 Simon
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] Why vendor-specific attributes in CSS3 parsing engine?

2011-05-18 Thread Brady Duga
Done: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61096

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Simon Fraser simon.fra...@apple.comwrote:

 The best way to move forward would be to file a bug requesting that the
 prefixes be removed.

 Simon


 On May 18, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Brady Duga wrote:

 Though, in this case, the spec is at CR and has been since 2009. Is there
 an additional process to removing the vendor prefixes for WebKit? So, are
 they still there because no one bothered to remove them, or because the
 consensus is they should remain for some reason?

 --Brady

 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Simon Fraser simon.fra...@apple.comwrote:

 On May 18, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Sabri Aurrelia wrote:

  Why does webkit not provide support for native CSS3 attributes in its
 parsing engine where those attributes clearly coincide with most other
 browsers' attributes -and- the Candidate Recommendations set forth by W3?
 
  Let me put it this way:  What is the purpose of every browser having
 their own nearly-identically named attributes that take the same arguments,
 which are also the same as the attributes set forth in the Candidate
 Recommendation?
 
  What makes -webkit-column-gap and -moz-column-gap and column-gap
 different from each other aside from the name, and if that's true, why is
 there even a name difference?
 
  Is it a waiting game?  Or is it possible to take the initiative and
 adopt early the attributes recommended?  Is there too much risk involved in
 early adoption even where there's already nearly complete consensus among
 vendors?

 Vendor prefixes remain on new properties until the draft spec that
 describes them reaches Candidate Recommendation status.

 A Google search for CSS3 vendor prefix will turn up lots of discussion
 on the www-style mailing list about this.

 Simon

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