Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2013-09-13 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
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I'm getting really tired of seeing these emails.  How hard is it to open
the URL attached on every email sent to this mailing list?

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Kabeer Kalra kabir.kal...@gmail.comwrote:

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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2013-09-13 Thread Bem Jones-Bey
On Sep 13, 2013, at 13:12 , Ryosuke Niwa 
rn...@webkit.orgmailto:rn...@webkit.org wrote:

Unsubscribe at https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev

I'm getting really tired of seeing these emails.  How hard is it to open the 
URL attached on every email sent to this mailing list?

I wonder if this is a gmail problem: I think gmail hides that by default when 
you are reading mail from a mailing list, like it tries to be helpful by hiding 
people's signatures by default as well.

Maybe Kabeer can tell us if the footer on this message is visible in gmail.

(Unfortunately, I have no idea how one would go about fixing that.)

- Bem

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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak

On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 
 I'm actually curious as to how the session participants reached this 
 consensus (probably on a separate thread). It seems like the bar shouldn't 
 too high for removing prefixed APIs when they are unprefixed equivalents 
 because I'm certain web developers want to use the ones that work on all 
 browsers instead of just on WebKit.

Here's some evidence that Web developers do not always care about this, and 
that lack of support for webkit-prefixed properties can be detrimental to Web 
compatibility:

http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-mobile-emulator-experimental-webkit-prefix-support/

Regards,
Maciej

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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-04-29 Thread Brendan Eich

Maciej Stachowiak wrote:

On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Ryosuke Niwarn...@webkit.org  wrote:


I'm actually curious as to how the session participants reached this consensus 
(probably on a separate thread). It seems like the bar shouldn't too high for 
removing prefixed APIs when they are unprefixed equivalents because I'm certain 
web developers want to use the ones that work on all browsers instead of just 
on WebKit.


Here's some evidence that Web developers do not always care about this, and 
that lack of support for webkit-prefixed properties can be detrimental to Web 
compatibility:

http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-mobile-emulator-experimental-webkit-prefix-support/


I agree with this, including the careful do not always and can be 
detrimental words ;-).


This message may not be interesting to webkit-dev. Skip if you are not 
interested in prefix usage studies, what Mozilla might do about 
prefixes, etc.


We have been studying prefix usage in:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708406

The situation for Opera is much worse than for Mozilla for many 
properties, e.g. border-radius, where -moz- is often observed to be used 
alongside -webkit-.


See in particular:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708406#c39

The table's tabs don't lay out nicely in bugzilla. Here's my attempt at 
fixing the layout by hand:


base_property  num_domains  num_rules  
pct_no_unprefixed_and_no_moz

animation-count11  100.0
animation-delay5137 80.0
animation-direction810  62.5
animation-duration 73   324 87.9
animation-fill-mode23   50.0
animation-iteration-count  51   78  84.7
animation-name 72   756 87.6
animation-play-state   230.0
animation-timing-function  51   100 94.5
text-size-adjust   779  635299.5
transform-origin   68   196 56.9
transform-origin-y 230.0
transform-style35   50 100.0
transition-delay   19   53  63.2
transition-duration208  853 71.5
transition-property156  491 76.2
transition-timing  120.0
transition-timing-function 45   111 58.9

Clearly Mozilla feels Opera's pain for certain properties, e.g. 
text-size-adjust. Per the bug, 99.5% of 6352 found instances do not have 
unprefixed or -moz-prefixed equivalents of text-size-adjust.


Lack of -webkit- prefix support may not be detrimental to a particular 
browser's mobile web compatibility where that browser engine's prefix 
(or no prefix) is widely used. It depends on the browser and the 
particular style property.


So (just FYI) we at Mozilla are not contemplating emulating -webkit- 
quite so much as Opera may be. We do want to sort this all out in the 
CSS-WG and avoid unnecessary fragmentation.


/be


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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-04-29 Thread Darin Fisher
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:


 On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.comwrote:

 On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote:

 I read https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/DeprecatingFeatures, but I'm
 still unsure how to proceed with removing webkitPostMessage and
 aligning postMessage with the spec.  No one responded to my earlier
 message, so I'm inclined to just post a patch.

 Comparing your post to the recommended steps on that page (the page
 says the same steps should be applied to removing only the prefixed version
 of a feature):

 It looks like you did this:

- Any deprecation should be sent to webkit-dev for discussion.

 It doesn't look like you did any of these yet:

- Any deprecation requires some data as to why the feature can be
deprecated. The goal of the data is to show that the feature is not 
 widely
used and is not popular. The following would qualify:
   - usage statistics in the wild (either by instrumenting the
   browser or any other means).
   - some discussions on the standard mailing lists underlining that
   the standards' bodies don't think there is enough traction to get the
   feature standardized.
   - some proof that there is others way to achieve the same result
   that are better.

 It appears to me that the the unprefixed version will be a better
 alternative in this case since the websites can just use the same API on
 all spec-compliant browsers if ArrayBuffer is supported in the unprefixed
 version.

 Is there evidence that authors are either not using the prefixed version
 or are highly willing to migrate? I ask because another part of the policy
 says:

 The burden on the overall project needs to be evaluated as it should be
 the primary driver for dropping any feature. Small features that require
 very little maintenance may not qualify under this rule and their
 deprecation would need to be argued extensively.

 This implies to me that the burden of proof is higher for
 lower-maintenance-cost features (which I imagine applies to a prefixed
 method that also exists in unprefixed form).

  I'm not necessarily saying that lots of evidence is required in this
 case. But we can use this instance as a test case to adjust the policy.


 I'm actually curious as to how the session participants reached
 this consensus (probably on a separate thread). It seems like the bar
 shouldn't too high for removing prefixed APIs when they are unprefixed
 equivalents because I'm certain web developers want to use the ones that
 work on all browsers instead of just on WebKit.


The discussion went like this:

It is good to remove vendor prefixed features in favor of their
standardized, unprefixed forms.

However, the process for removing a vendor prefixed feature is the same as
the process for removing any feature.  In both cases, we care about the
impact to users of WebKit-based products.  The vendor prefix just provides
motivation for wanting to remove a feature.  It doesn't necessarily make it
any easier to remove a feature.

Just as we announce feature addition on webkit-dev, I think it is a good
idea to announce feature removal on webkit-dev.

-- If we have data to indicate that a feature is nearly unused, then
removing the feature straight-away seems good.  We can learn quickly if we
made a mistake.

-- If we have data to indicate that a feature is somewhat used, then we can
still deprecate it, but we probably need to take our time, complain in the
JS console about deprecated API usage for some time, and then remove the
feature from trunk and see who complains.

-- If we have data to indicate that a feature is highly used, then perhaps
we are stuck with the feature.  We may have some hard discussions here if
someone is truly motivated to remove such a feature.

-Darin
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-29 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
En 28/02/12 04:46, Ryosuke Niwa escribiu:
 Do people really use git diff that often? I don't use git much but
 when I do I always get annoyed by the way git diff works because I
 almost always want git diff master.

From my own experience, when you're used to a git workflow, you almost
never mean git diff master when you do git diff.

BR
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-29 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
En 28/02/12 22:06, Dirk Pranke escribiu:
 I'm beginning to think it probably makes sense to add a different
 commandline argument that works exactly like diff (e.g. takes an optional
 second value). --git-diff perhaps?

 
 Based on the responses on this thread, I agree with you. It looks like
 a fair number of people either want cherry-pick or diff against
 remote master. I will probably implement a separate switch for pure
 git.

Although I normally use it for cherry-picking a commit to upload, I have
always missed the option to upload a bunch of commits as a single patch.
Basically, as you said, forcing people to merge several commits in a
single one to upload a patch to bz totally breaks the typical git
workflow (micro-commits and so).

BR
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-29 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


29.02.2012, 12:26, Sergio Villar Senin svil...@igalia.com:
 En 28/02/12 22:06, Dirk Pranke escribiu:

  I'm beginning to think it probably makes sense to add a different
  commandline argument that works exactly like diff (e.g. takes an optional
  second value). --git-diff perhaps?
  Based on the responses on this thread, I agree with you. It looks like
  a fair number of people either want cherry-pick or diff against
  remote master. I will probably implement a separate switch for pure
  git.

 Although I normally use it for cherry-picking a commit to upload, I have
 always missed the option to upload a bunch of commits as a single patch.
 Basically, as you said, forcing people to merge several commits in a
 single one to upload a patch to bz totally breaks the typical git
 workflow (micro-commits and so).

Do you know how to use git rebase -i?

-- 
Regards,
Konstantin
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-29 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
En 29/02/12 09:33, Konstantin Tokarev escribiu:

 Although I normally use it for cherry-picking a commit to upload, I have
 always missed the option to upload a bunch of commits as a single patch.
 Basically, as you said, forcing people to merge several commits in a
 single one to upload a patch to bz totally breaks the typical git
 workflow (micro-commits and so).
 
 Do you know how to use git rebase -i?

Konstantin, that's why I meant with merge several commits in a single
one. You do not normally want to do that while you're developing a
patch as having multiple commits gives you a lot of flexibility while
developing. I normally have to create a new branch to rebase the commits
I want in a single patch to upload it to the bz. That is annoying,
that's why I said that having something like webkit-patch upload
range_of_commits will be nice to have, as you wouldn't have to create a
new branch and rebase several commits, just to upload a new patch to the bz.

BR


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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-29 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Sergio Villar Senin svil...@igalia.comwrote:

 En 29/02/12 09:33, Konstantin Tokarev escribiu:

  Although I normally use it for cherry-picking a commit to upload, I have
  always missed the option to upload a bunch of commits as a single patch.
  Basically, as you said, forcing people to merge several commits in a
  single one to upload a patch to bz totally breaks the typical git
  workflow (micro-commits and so).
 
  Do you know how to use git rebase -i?

 Konstantin, that's why I meant with merge several commits in a single
 one. You do not normally want to do that while you're developing a
 patch as having multiple commits gives you a lot of flexibility while
 developing. I normally have to create a new branch to rebase the commits
 I want in a single patch to upload it to the bz. That is annoying,
 that's why I said that having something like webkit-patch upload
 range_of_commits will be nice to have, as you wouldn't have to create a
 new branch and rebase several commits, just to upload a new patch to the
 bz.


You can do this with the current -g option by adding a commit range, e.g.
-g=commit1..commit2. AFAIK, the only thing you can't do currently with -g
is pass a commit range *and* include the staged/working copy changes.

Under the hood it basically does what you described (create a new branch,
copy the commits over as a single commit, upload from the branch, etc).
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-29 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
En 29/02/12 18:42, Ojan Vafai escribiu:
 On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Sergio Villar Senin
  Do you know how to use git rebase -i?
 
 Konstantin, that's why I meant with merge several commits in a single
 one. You do not normally want to do that while you're developing a
 patch as having multiple commits gives you a lot of flexibility while
 developing. I normally have to create a new branch to rebase the commits
 I want in a single patch to upload it to the bz. That is annoying,
 that's why I said that having something like webkit-patch upload
 range_of_commits will be nice to have, as you wouldn't have to create a
 new branch and rebase several commits, just to upload a new patch to
 the bz.
 
 
 You can do this with the current -g option by adding a commit range,
 e.g. -g=commit1..commit2. AFAIK, the only thing you can't do currently
 with -g is pass a commit range *and* include the staged/working copy
 changes.

Good to know. Thx Ojan for the clarification.

BR
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-28 Thread Andy Wingo
Hi Dirk,

On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 17:56 -0800, Dirk Pranke wrote:

 1) Do you use -g foo to upload a single change?

Yes, it's pretty much the only way I use it.

  If so, would you be
 annoyed if I changed that syntax to a different argument

That would be fine.

 , or
 eliminated it completely (so that you would have to type foo^..foo)?

I'd be a little annoyed ;-)

My mental model of webkit-patch -g is that it's like cherry-pick, and so
using individual commits is sensible.  But there might be bugs in my
mental model :)

Regards,

Andy
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-28 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 If you don't use webkit-patch and Git, you can stop reading now. Otherwise
 ...

 Currently, webkit-patch -g has some special logic for figuring out
 what to diff against for Git checkouts.

 Specifically, webkit-patch -g commitish gets translated to the git
 equivalent of 'git diff commitish^..commitish'. Then, we have an
 additional tweak that rewrites '-g HEAD' to '-g HEAD..' in order to
 pick up any uncommitted changes, and if nothing is specified, we will
 attempt to diff against the remote master/trunk version.

 This is very useful if you typically want to just upload a single
 commit issue, but is a bit un-git-like, and actually thwarts some
 other use cases.

 My questions are:

 1) Do you use -g foo to upload a single change? If so, would you be
 annoyed if I changed that syntax to a different argument, or
 eliminated it completely (so that you would have to type foo^..foo)?

 2) Do you object to changing the default to match what 'git diff'
 does? This would change the defaults so that:
  a) instead of no arguments meaning diff against remote master, it
 would mean diff against what is staged for commit


I'd rather this not change. It used to work like this and there was much
happiness when it changed to the current scheme. I think a lot of people's
workflows depend on the no argument case uploading all the changes in their
branch.


  b) 'git diff commitish would show the diff between commitish and
 your current working directory


Now that I think about it, I realize that this doesn't really work without
also changing (a). Also, there seem to be at least a few people who expect
-g to work like cherry-pick.

I'm beginning to think it probably makes sense to add a different
commandline argument that works exactly like diff (e.g. takes an optional
second value). --git-diff perhaps?

If there is a consensus that we shouldn't change the defaults, I will
 likely implement a different command line argument that does mirror
 what git does.

 As an aside, I will probably be adding a patch that will figure out
 what the 'tracking' branch (as defined by branch.branchname.merge)
 is for your current checkout, and give webkit-patch a way to use that
 instead of the remote head (this would make using stacked local
 branches much easier). I haven't decided if this should be the default
 or if you should have to request this via something like 'webkit-patch
 diff -g UPSTREAM' instead; if you have an opinion, feel free to
 comment.

 There is a bug tracking this work at
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76958 if you want to comment
 there instead of here or follow along with whatever ends up happening.

 Thanks,

 -- Dirk
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-27 Thread Oliver Hunt

On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 If you don't use webkit-patch and Git, you can stop reading now. Otherwise ...
 
 Currently, webkit-patch -g has some special logic for figuring out
 what to diff against for Git checkouts.
 
 Specifically, webkit-patch -g commitish gets translated to the git
 equivalent of 'git diff commitish^..commitish'. Then, we have an
 additional tweak that rewrites '-g HEAD' to '-g HEAD..' in order to
 pick up any uncommitted changes, and if nothing is specified, we will
 attempt to diff against the remote master/trunk version.
 
 This is very useful if you typically want to just upload a single
 commit issue, but is a bit un-git-like, and actually thwarts some
 other use cases.
 
 My questions are:
 
 1) Do you use -g foo to upload a single change? If so, would you be
 annoyed if I changed that syntax to a different argument, or
 eliminated it completely (so that you would have to type foo^..foo)?
 
 2) Do you object to changing the default to match what 'git diff'
 does? This would change the defaults so that:
  a) instead of no arguments meaning diff against remote master, it
 would mean diff against what is staged for commit

This would annoy me quite a lot -- Any delta including new files or anything 
implicitly staged (eg. by git stash apply) would not be included.

Or do you mean git diff HEAD ?

--Oliver

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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-27 Thread Dirk Pranke
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Oliver Hunt oli...@apple.com wrote:

 On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote:

 Hi all,

 If you don't use webkit-patch and Git, you can stop reading now. Otherwise 
 ...

 Currently, webkit-patch -g has some special logic for figuring out
 what to diff against for Git checkouts.

 Specifically, webkit-patch -g commitish gets translated to the git
 equivalent of 'git diff commitish^..commitish'. Then, we have an
 additional tweak that rewrites '-g HEAD' to '-g HEAD..' in order to
 pick up any uncommitted changes, and if nothing is specified, we will
 attempt to diff against the remote master/trunk version.

 This is very useful if you typically want to just upload a single
 commit issue, but is a bit un-git-like, and actually thwarts some
 other use cases.

 My questions are:

 1) Do you use -g foo to upload a single change? If so, would you be
 annoyed if I changed that syntax to a different argument, or
 eliminated it completely (so that you would have to type foo^..foo)?

 2) Do you object to changing the default to match what 'git diff'
 does? This would change the defaults so that:
  a) instead of no arguments meaning diff against remote master, it
 would mean diff against what is staged for commit

 This would annoy me quite a lot -- Any delta including new files or anything 
 implicitly staged (eg. by git stash apply) would not be included.

 Or do you mean git diff HEAD ?

I did not (i.e., I explcitly meant what you get with 'git diff' and
not 'git diff HEAD'). In order to include both staged and unstaged
changes, you would have to do 'webkit-patch -g HEAD' (just like you
would have to do 'git diff HEAD'). Your annoyance is duly noted, and
it might make more sense for 'HEAD' to be the default; if we did that,
though, we might want some other way to indicate just the unstaged
changes ...

As a broader point ... there are obviously a lot of different use
cases possible with git, and any logic we have is likely to work
really well for some and really annoy others. My thinking in proposing
the change above is that at least we'd match what git does by default,
and so it's fairly understandable (if you understand git).

We could also add some sort of preference to webkit-patch here ...
that has the usual discoverability issues, but might make sense given
git's TMTOWTDI nature.

-- Dirk
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-27 Thread Konrad Piascik
I typically use webkit-patch to upload a single patch but really like your 
proposed change in 2a) to diff against what is staged for commit.

This looks like it will be useful and cool.


Konrad
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- Original Message -
From: Dirk Pranke [mailto:dpra...@chromium.org]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 08:56 PM
To: WebKit-Dev webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
Subject: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

Hi all,

If you don't use webkit-patch and Git, you can stop reading now. Otherwise ...

Currently, webkit-patch -g has some special logic for figuring out
what to diff against for Git checkouts.

Specifically, webkit-patch -g commitish gets translated to the git
equivalent of 'git diff commitish^..commitish'. Then, we have an
additional tweak that rewrites '-g HEAD' to '-g HEAD..' in order to
pick up any uncommitted changes, and if nothing is specified, we will
attempt to diff against the remote master/trunk version.

This is very useful if you typically want to just upload a single
commit issue, but is a bit un-git-like, and actually thwarts some
other use cases.

My questions are:

1) Do you use -g foo to upload a single change? If so, would you be
annoyed if I changed that syntax to a different argument, or
eliminated it completely (so that you would have to type foo^..foo)?

2) Do you object to changing the default to match what 'git diff'
does? This would change the defaults so that:
  a) instead of no arguments meaning diff against remote master, it
would mean diff against what is staged for commit
  b) 'git diff commitish would show the diff between commitish and
your current working directory

If there is a consensus that we shouldn't change the defaults, I will
likely implement a different command line argument that does mirror
what git does.

As an aside, I will probably be adding a patch that will figure out
what the 'tracking' branch (as defined by branch.branchname.merge)
is for your current checkout, and give webkit-patch a way to use that
instead of the remote head (this would make using stacked local
branches much easier). I haven't decided if this should be the default
or if you should have to request this via something like 'webkit-patch
diff -g UPSTREAM' instead; if you have an opinion, feel free to
comment.

There is a bug tracking this work at
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76958 if you want to comment
there instead of here or follow along with whatever ends up happening.

Thanks,

-- Dirk
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-02-27 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Do people really use git diff that often? I don't use git much but when I
do I always get annoyed by the way git diff works because I almost always
want git diff master.

But then I don't really use git that much especially for WebKit, so ignore
me if people who primarily use git thinks this is a good idea.

- Ryosuke

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 If you don't use webkit-patch and Git, you can stop reading now. Otherwise
 ...

 Currently, webkit-patch -g has some special logic for figuring out
 what to diff against for Git checkouts.

 Specifically, webkit-patch -g commitish gets translated to the git
 equivalent of 'git diff commitish^..commitish'. Then, we have an
 additional tweak that rewrites '-g HEAD' to '-g HEAD..' in order to
 pick up any uncommitted changes, and if nothing is specified, we will
 attempt to diff against the remote master/trunk version.

 This is very useful if you typically want to just upload a single
 commit issue, but is a bit un-git-like, and actually thwarts some
 other use cases.

 My questions are:

 1) Do you use -g foo to upload a single change? If so, would you be
 annoyed if I changed that syntax to a different argument, or
 eliminated it completely (so that you would have to type foo^..foo)?

 2) Do you object to changing the default to match what 'git diff'
 does? This would change the defaults so that:
  a) instead of no arguments meaning diff against remote master, it
 would mean diff against what is staged for commit
  b) 'git diff commitish would show the diff between commitish and
 your current working directory

 If there is a consensus that we shouldn't change the defaults, I will
 likely implement a different command line argument that does mirror
 what git does.

 As an aside, I will probably be adding a patch that will figure out
 what the 'tracking' branch (as defined by branch.branchname.merge)
 is for your current checkout, and give webkit-patch a way to use that
 instead of the remote head (this would make using stacked local
 branches much easier). I haven't decided if this should be the default
 or if you should have to request this via something like 'webkit-patch
 diff -g UPSTREAM' instead; if you have an opinion, feel free to
 comment.

 There is a bug tracking this work at
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76958 if you want to comment
 there instead of here or follow along with whatever ends up happening.

 Thanks,

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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2008-09-05 Thread David Kilzer
[Please keep replies on the list in case anyone else is able to help.]

Basic debugging from here calls for:

0. Does .libs/libwebkit-1.0.so.1.0.0 exist?  Was libwebkit built successfully, 
or did the make command actually fail?

1. Does /usr/local/lib exist?

2. If so, what are the permissions for /usr/local/lib, e.g., are you able to 
write to it as your user or as root?

3. Does /usr/local/lib/libwebkit-1.0.so.1.0.0 already exist?

4. If so, what are its permissions, e.g, are you able to delete it or write 
over it as your user or as root?

5. Is /usr/local/lib on a read-only partition or mounted read-only?

6. Are there any extended attributes (e.g., for Linux ext2/3 or Windows NTFS) 
that prevent you from writing to that directory or overwriting that file?

7. What happens when you try to copy the file by hand?

cp -p .libs/libwebkit-1.0.so.1.0.0 /usr/local/lib/libwebkit-1.0.so.1.0.0

Dave


On Fri, 9/5/08, rakesh sadhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i also tried with root permissions!!!
 sudo make install but still same error!!!
 On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:03 AM, David Kilzer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Do you have write access to /usr/local/lib?  Perhaps
 you need to run make
  install as root?  Or run sudo make
 install?
 
  Be careful--running as root can be dangerous!
 
  Dave
 
 
  On Fri, 9/5/08, rakesh sadhu
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   i am facing a problem while building webkit
 r33943 ; when i
   do make install
  
make install
   make  install-am
   make[1]: Entering directory
   `/home/rakesh/Desktop/WebKit-r33943'
   make[2]: Entering directory
   `/home/rakesh/Desktop/WebKit-r33943'
   test -z /usr/local/lib || /bin/mkdir
 -p
   /usr/local/lib
   test -z /usr/local/lib || /bin/mkdir
 -p
   /usr/local/lib
/bin/bash ./libtool --mode=install
 /usr/bin/install -c
   'libwebkit-1.0.la'
   '/usr/local/lib/libwebkit-1.0.la'
   /usr/bin/install -c .libs/libwebkit-1.0.so.1.0.0
   /usr/local/lib/libwebkit-1.0.so.1.0.0
   /usr/bin/install: accessing
   `/usr/local/lib/libwebkit-1.0.so.1.0.0':
   Input/output error
   make[2]: *** [install-libLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
   make[2]: Leaving directory
   `/home/rakesh/Desktop/WebKit-r33943'
   make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
   make[1]: Leaving directory
   `/home/rakesh/Desktop/WebKit-r33943'
   make: *** [install] Error 2
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/WebKit-r33943$
  
  
   i need a help!!how to solve this!!
  
   --
   Regards,
   RakeshSadhu
   Boulevard Road,
   Srinagar,
   CASHMERE.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Rowe

Hi Chris,

The instructions at http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Using_Perforce_with_the_Adobe_Source_Libraries 
 do not appear to work for getting a copy of the WebKit tree.  The  
instructions there seem to deal with 3 paths within the repository  
-- //media, //release, and //submission.  Attempting to use the p4  
command-line client to access //webkit/M3/WebKit results in a strange  
error message: Error in client specification. Mapping '//webkit/...'  
is not under '//media/...'.  I'm a complete newbie when it comes to  
Perforce, so perhaps I'm doing something silly.


Thanks,

Mark Rowe

On 21/03/2007, at 7:38 AM, Chris Brichford wrote:


Hi,

We just put out our first public version of Apollo, which is using  
WebKit.  You can check out our version of WebKit at http://opensource.adobe.com:8080/@md=dcd=//webkit/M3/c=2oh@//webkit/M3/WebKit/?ac=83 
.  For information on how to get the tree on your local machine see: http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Using_Perforce_with_the_Adobe_Source_Libraries


We are using version of WebKit that was top of tree around September  
11, 2006.  We did not attempt to get our changes into the svn  
repository at WebKit.org because we are so far out of date.  We are  
now working on getting our version of WebKit updated to top of tree  
WebKit.  We plan, in future, to submit our changes directly back to  
the WebKit svn repository.


Integrating WebKit with Apollo uncovered some technical issues that  
I'll be posting about in the next day or so.  I'm interested in  
getting your feedback to our proposed solutions to these issues.


We are really happy to be using WebKit and we'd like to thank all of  
those who helped us out over email and IRC.


Chris Brichford
Adobe Systems Inc.
http://www.adobe.com/go/apollo
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RE: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2007-03-20 Thread Chris Brichford
 
You want your client spec to look something like this:

 # A Perforce Client Specification.
 
 Client:username-somename-somemachine
 
 Owner: username
 
 Description:
 Created by username.
 
 Root:  /Users/username/p4/somename
 
 Options:   noallwrite noclobber compress unlocked nomodtime normdir
 
 LineEnd:   local
 
 View:
   //webkit/M3/... //username-somename-somemachine/webkit/...

You can edit your client spec by running:
p4 -u username -p opensource.adobe.com:10666 -P yourpassword client 
username-somename-somemachine

After editing your client spec, run:
p4 -u username -p opensource.adobe.com:10666 -P yourpassword -c 
username-somename-somemachine sync

Hope this helps,
Chris



-Original Message-
From: Mark Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Chris Brichford
Cc: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

Hi Chris,

The instructions at 
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Using_Perforce_with_the_Adobe_Source_Libraries
  do not appear to work for getting a copy of the WebKit tree.  The 
  instructions there seem to deal with 3 paths within the repository
-- //media, //release, and //submission.  Attempting to use the p4 command-line 
client to access //webkit/M3/WebKit results in a strange error message: Error 
in client specification. Mapping '//webkit/...'  
is not under '//media/...'.  I'm a complete newbie when it comes to Perforce, 
so perhaps I'm doing something silly.

Thanks,

Mark Rowe

On 21/03/2007, at 7:38 AM, Chris Brichford wrote:

 Hi,

 We just put out our first public version of Apollo, which is using 
 WebKit.  You can check out our version of WebKit at 
 http://opensource.adobe.com:8080/@md=dcd=//webkit/M3/c=2oh@//webkit/
 M3/WebKit/?ac=83 .  For information on how to get the tree on your 
 local machine see: 
 http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Using_Perforce_with_the_Ado
 be_Source_Libraries

 We are using version of WebKit that was top of tree around September 
 11, 2006.  We did not attempt to get our changes into the svn 
 repository at WebKit.org because we are so far out of date.  We are 
 now working on getting our version of WebKit updated to top of tree 
 WebKit.  We plan, in future, to submit our changes directly back to 
 the WebKit svn repository.

 Integrating WebKit with Apollo uncovered some technical issues that 
 I'll be posting about in the next day or so.  I'm interested in 
 getting your feedback to our proposed solutions to these issues.

 We are really happy to be using WebKit and we'd like to thank all of 
 those who helped us out over email and IRC.

 Chris Brichford
 Adobe Systems Inc.
 http://www.adobe.com/go/apollo
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Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Rowe

Chris,

My client spec contains:
//webkit/M3/... //atlas/webkit/...

I'm still seeing the error that I mentioned.  Perhaps the guest user  
doesn't have permission to access this portion of the repository?  The  
error message isn't particularly clear about whatever the problem is.


Thanks,

Mark


On 21/03/2007, at 9:52 AM, Chris Brichford wrote:



You want your client spec to look something like this:

# A Perforce Client Specification.

Client:username-somename-somemachine

Owner:username

Description:
Created by username.

Root:/Users/username/p4/somename

Options:noallwrite noclobber compress unlocked nomodtime normdir

LineEnd:local

View:
  //webkit/M3/... //username-somename-somemachine/webkit/...

You can edit your client spec by running:
p4 -u username -p opensource.adobe.com:10666 -P yourpassword client  
username-somename-somemachine


After editing your client spec, run:
p4 -u username -p opensource.adobe.com:10666 -P yourpassword -c  
username-somename-somemachine sync


Hope this helps,
Chris



-Original Message-
From: Mark Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Chris Brichford
Cc: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

Hi Chris,

The instructions at 
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Using_Perforce_with_the_Adobe_Source_Libraries
do not appear to work for getting a copy of the WebKit tree.  The  
instructions there seem to deal with 3 paths within the repository
-- //media, //release, and //submission.  Attempting to use the p4  
command-line client to access //webkit/M3/WebKit results in a  
strange error message: Error in client specification. Mapping '// 
webkit/...'  
is not under '//media/...'.  I'm a complete newbie when it comes to  
Perforce, so perhaps I'm doing something silly.


Thanks,

Mark Rowe

On 21/03/2007, at 7:38 AM, Chris Brichford wrote:


Hi,

We just put out our first public version of Apollo, which is using
WebKit.  You can check out our version of WebKit at
http://opensource.adobe.com:8080/@md=dcd=//webkit/M3/c=2oh@// 
webkit/

M3/WebKit/?ac=83 .  For information on how to get the tree on your
local machine see:
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ 
Using_Perforce_with_the_Ado

be_Source_Libraries

We are using version of WebKit that was top of tree around September
11, 2006.  We did not attempt to get our changes into the svn
repository at WebKit.org because we are so far out of date.  We are
now working on getting our version of WebKit updated to top of tree
WebKit.  We plan, in future, to submit our changes directly back to
the WebKit svn repository.

Integrating WebKit with Apollo uncovered some technical issues that
I'll be posting about in the next day or so.  I'm interested in
getting your feedback to our proposed solutions to these issues.

We are really happy to be using WebKit and we'd like to thank all of
those who helped us out over email and IRC.

Chris Brichford
Adobe Systems Inc.
http://www.adobe.com/go/apollo
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RE: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2007-03-20 Thread Chris Brichford
Try again, I updated your client spec.  It did not appear to contain what you 
thought it did.

To see what your client spec is you can run:
p4 -u guest -p opensource.adobe.com:10666 client -o atlas

Chris 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:57 PM
To: Chris Brichford
Cc: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

Chris,

My client spec contains:
//webkit/M3/... //atlas/webkit/...

I'm still seeing the error that I mentioned.  Perhaps the guest user doesn't 
have permission to access this portion of the repository?  The error message 
isn't particularly clear about whatever the problem is.

Thanks,

Mark


On 21/03/2007, at 9:52 AM, Chris Brichford wrote:


 You want your client spec to look something like this:

 # A Perforce Client Specification.

 Client:username-somename-somemachine

 Owner:username

 Description:
 Created by username.

 Root:/Users/username/p4/somename

 Options:noallwrite noclobber compress unlocked nomodtime normdir

 LineEnd:local

 View:
   //webkit/M3/... //username-somename-somemachine/webkit/...

 You can edit your client spec by running:
 p4 -u username -p opensource.adobe.com:10666 -P yourpassword client 
 username-somename-somemachine

 After editing your client spec, run:
 p4 -u username -p opensource.adobe.com:10666 -P yourpassword -c 
 username-somename-somemachine sync

 Hope this helps,
 Chris



 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Rowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:30 PM
 To: Chris Brichford
 Cc: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
 Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

 Hi Chris,

 The instructions at 
 http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Using_Perforce_with_the_Ad
 obe_Source_Libraries
 do not appear to work for getting a copy of the WebKit tree.  The 
 instructions there seem to deal with 3 paths within the repository
 -- //media, //release, and //submission.  Attempting to use the p4 
 command-line client to access //webkit/M3/WebKit results in a strange 
 error message: Error in client specification. Mapping '// webkit/...'
 is not under '//media/...'.  I'm a complete newbie when it comes to 
 Perforce, so perhaps I'm doing something silly.

 Thanks,

 Mark Rowe

 On 21/03/2007, at 7:38 AM, Chris Brichford wrote:

 Hi,

 We just put out our first public version of Apollo, which is using 
 WebKit.  You can check out our version of WebKit at 
 http://opensource.adobe.com:8080/@md=dcd=//webkit/M3/c=2oh@//
 webkit/
 M3/WebKit/?ac=83 .  For information on how to get the tree on your 
 local machine see:
 http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/
 Using_Perforce_with_the_Ado
 be_Source_Libraries

 We are using version of WebKit that was top of tree around September 
 11, 2006.  We did not attempt to get our changes into the svn 
 repository at WebKit.org because we are so far out of date.  We are 
 now working on getting our version of WebKit updated to top of tree 
 WebKit.  We plan, in future, to submit our changes directly back to 
 the WebKit svn repository.

 Integrating WebKit with Apollo uncovered some technical issues that 
 I'll be posting about in the next day or so.  I'm interested in 
 getting your feedback to our proposed solutions to these issues.

 We are really happy to be using WebKit and we'd like to thank all of 
 those who helped us out over email and IRC.

 Chris Brichford
 Adobe Systems Inc.
 http://www.adobe.com/go/apollo
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