Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

[David Delbecq]

Done, also added all information i could gather on process today by adding
loggers everywhere in code :)

My skills in python being near to 0, i can't pretty much do better.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:59 PM Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <
jean-bapti...@holcroft.fr> wrote:

> Le 05/07/2017 à 13:38, Marc Perrin a écrit :
> > Yes, I confirm the issue is there in 2.15
>
> Ok, I assume your project is not open-source, I created a ticket and
> added an example file:
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1547
>
> Please follow this ticket by commenting it or following the whole
> Weblate project, Weblate's developper may have questions.
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Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

[Jean-Baptiste Holcroft]

Le 05/07/2017 à 13:38, Marc Perrin a écrit :

Yes, I confirm the issue is there in 2.15


Ok, I assume your project is not open-source, I created a ticket and 
added an example file:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1547

Please follow this ticket by commenting it or following the whole 
Weblate project, Weblate's developper may have questions.


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Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

[Marc Perrin]

Yes, I confirm the issue is there in 2.15


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De la part de Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
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À : weblate@lists.cihar.com
Objet : Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

Le 05/07/2017 à 12:16, Marc Perrin a écrit :
>
> Yes you can create a new issue (probably referencing issue #1218
> )
>
> I’m not sure it’s a regression, the csv upload might never have worked.
>
> For the PR, sure, if you can debug/pinpoint the problem/devise a fix, 
> go ahead! (you should probably wait for Michal’s comment on the issue 
> before sending the PR though).
>
I confirm the same issue on Weblate 2.12
(https://translate.yunohost.org/projects/yunohost/moulinette/fr/#overview)

I changed a few strings (mostly apostrophes and a word) and it says : 38 
chaînes importées depuis les fichiers (ignorées : 0, non trouvées 0, mises à 
jour 0).

I assume it should at least have a total of 38. Are you using the latest 
version of weblate? It would be great to test with 2.15 before opening the 
issue.

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Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

[Jean-Baptiste Holcroft]

Le 05/07/2017 à 12:16, Marc Perrin a écrit :


Yes you can create a new issue (probably referencing issue #1218 
)


I’m not sure it’s a regression, the csv upload might never have worked.

For the PR, sure, if you can debug/pinpoint the problem/devise a fix, 
go ahead! (you should probably wait for Michal’s comment on the issue 
before sending the PR though).


I confirm the same issue on Weblate 2.12 
(https://translate.yunohost.org/projects/yunohost/moulinette/fr/#overview)


I changed a few strings (mostly apostrophes and a word) and it says : 38 
chaînes importées depuis les fichiers (ignorées : 0, non trouvées 0, 
mises à jour 0).


I assume it should at least have a total of 38. Are you using the latest 
version of weblate? It would be great to test with 2.15 before opening 
the issue.


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Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

[Marc Perrin]

Yes you can create a new issue (probably referencing issue 
#1218)
I’m not sure it’s a regression, the csv upload might never have worked.
For the PR, sure, if you can debug/pinpoint the problem/devise a fix, go ahead! 
(you should probably wait for Michal’s comment on the issue before sending the 
PR though).

De : Marc Perrin
Envoyé : Wednesday, July 5, 2017 12:13 PM
À : 'David Delbecq' ; weblate@lists.cihar.com
Objet : RE: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

Yes you can create a new issue (probably referencing issue 
#1218)
I’m not sure it’s a regression, the csv upload might never have worked.
For the PR, sure, if you can debug/pinpoint the problem/devise a fix, go ahead! 
(you should probably wait for Michal’s comment on the issue before sending the 
PR though).

De : David Delbecq [mailto:david_delb...@trimble.com]
Envoyé : Wednesday, July 5, 2017 11:03 AM
À : Marc Perrin >; 
weblate@lists.cihar.com
Objet : Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

Should I open a bug report? I'm not a python developper but if needed it can 
try to provide a PR to fix the CSV import, as we need it badly :)

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 5:22 PM Marc Perrin 
> wrote:
I was just being cautious, as in “the csv down>upload could work, if you use 
settings I don’t know about, or in some favorable cases…” ;-)
I have full confidence in the PO down>upload, I use it a lot, but other than 
this…
I haven’t really played with xliff either.
I’m sure Michal can tell you more about the current state of the down>upload 
formats.


De : David Delbecq 
[mailto:david_delb...@trimble.com]
Envoyé : Tuesday, July 4, 2017 5:14 PM
À : Marc Perrin >; 
weblate@lists.cihar.com
Objet : Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

Yes, after some fidling with download / upload, it seems  .PO is actually the 
only format that works. XLIFF and XLIFF v1.2 fails too. Can you elaborate what 
you mean by "it might require extra config care w/r/t PO" ? I didn't understand 
you.
I could reproduce problem also using online demo.


On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:03 PM Marc Perrin 
> wrote:
Hi David,
Have you tried PO format for down>upload?
I think it’s a lot more tried and tested than csv.
I’ve never worked with the csv down>upload before*, but it might require extra 
config care w/r/t PO, or be in need of a (small) fix.
Marc

* NB: same situation as you, with the translators loving to work in Excel: 
basically I use some kind of PO<=>Xlsx conversion


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Envoyé : Tuesday, July 4, 2017 3:01 PM
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Objet : [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

Hello,

We are starting to use weblate and we have an issue with the translation 
download / upload.

Some of our translation subcontractor require that we send CSV to translate and 
send back translation afterward, they just don't even want to register on 
weblate.

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Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations

[David Delbecq]

Should I open a bug report? I'm not a python developper but if needed it
can try to provide a PR to fix the CSV import, as we need it badly :)

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 5:22 PM Marc Perrin  wrote:

> I was just being cautious, as in “the csv down>upload *could* work, if
> you use settings I don’t know about, or in some favorable cases…” ;-)
>
> I have full confidence in the PO down>upload, I use it a lot, but other
> than this…
>
> I haven’t really played with xliff either.
>
> I’m sure Michal can tell you more about the current state of the
> down>upload formats.
>
>
>
>
>
> *De :* David Delbecq [mailto:david_delb...@trimble.com]
> *Envoyé :* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 5:14 PM
> *À :* Marc Perrin ; weblate@lists.cihar.com
> *Objet :* Re: [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations
>
>
>
> Yes, after some fidling with download / upload, it seems  .PO is actually
> the only format that works. XLIFF and XLIFF v1.2 fails too. Can you
> elaborate what you mean by "it might require extra config care w/r/t PO"
> ? I didn't understand you.
>
> I could reproduce problem also using online demo.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:03 PM Marc Perrin 
> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Have you tried PO format for down>upload?
>
> I think it’s a lot more tried and tested than csv.
>
> I’ve never worked with the csv down>upload before*, but it might require
> extra config care w/r/t PO, or be in need of a (small) fix.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> * NB: same situation as you, with the translators loving to work in Excel:
> basically I use some kind of POóXlsx conversion
>
>
>
>
>
> *De :* Weblate [mailto:weblate-bounces+marc.perrin=
> dont-nod@lists.cihar.com] *De la part de* David Delbecq
> *Envoyé :* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 3:01 PM
> *À :* weblate@lists.cihar.com
> *Objet :* [Weblate] Translation upload ignores all translations
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> We are starting to use weblate and we have an issue with the translation
> download / upload.
>
>
>
> Some of our translation subcontractor require that we send CSV to
> translate and send back translation afterward, they just don't even want to
> register on weblate.
>
>
>
> We did the following operation:
>
> go to a component, in french (untranslated)
>
> file -> download translation
>
> update the target column in CSV file with some translation
>
> file -> upload translation, choose the CSV
>
>
>
> we get "Processed 603 strings from the uploaded files (skipped: 0, not
> found: 0, updated: 0)."
>
>
>
> Here is an extract of what the CSV looks like, you can see that first line
> was translated but it's not uploaded:
>
>
>
>
> "location","source","target","id","fuzzy","context","translator_comments","developer_comments"
>
> "","Accept","Accepter","","False","accept","",""
>
> "","Accepted","","","False","accepted","",""
>
> "","Accepted Due Date= Date Time Creation
> +","","","False","acceptedDueDateOffset","",""
>
> "","Accepting","","","False","accepting","",""
>
> "","Accepted shipments","","","False","acceptedShipments","",""
>
> "","Access control","","","False","accessControl","",""
>
> "","Address lookup with map","","","False","addressLookupWithMap","",""
>
>
>
>
>
> Are we missing some steps? Any help appreciated.
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
> David Delbecq
> Software engineer, Transport & Logistics
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> david.delb...@trimbletl.com
>
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>
>
>
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