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On Sep 28, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Tim Worman wrote:

 On Sep 28, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 
 On Sep 28, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 He's active on Twitter, @tuparev
 
 Dude.  I don't twitter.
 i don't believe it -- http://twitter.com/chillatgvc
 
 ms
 
 :-)  Well, you gotta admit that I am not very prolific.
 
 That's 'cause you're chill.

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database concept help

2010-09-29 Thread Theodore Petrosky

I am altering a project (adding a relation) and I don't understand the Flatten 
relationship option.

this will be a many to many. I just don't understand what flattening does. I 
started googling and so far the answers don't click.

what's happening in a flattened vs an un-flattened relationship.

Ted


  
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Re: database concept help


Le 2010-09-29 à 06:42, Theodore Petrosky a écrit :

 I am altering a project (adding a relation) and I don't understand the 
 Flatten relationship option.
 
 this will be a many to many. I just don't understand what flattening does. I 
 started googling and so far the answers don't click.
 
 what's happening in a flattened vs an un-flattened relationship.

Flattened means that the table in the middle (that only holds the keys to join 
the two other tables) is hidden in the EOs, and when you create a new object 
in one of the two tables, the join table will automatically be populated.

So let's say you have a People and a Job tables, and the join table is 
People_Job, to add a new job to a person, you do :

  aPerson.setRelationJob(newJob)

No need to do aPerson.setRelationshipPeopleJob(new PeopleJob). 
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REST routes in JavaMonitor

Good morning!

Yesterday, I committed REST routes inside JavaMonitor, this is the stuff that 
was demonstrated at WOWODC 2010. With those routes + the direct actions Anjo 
added last year, you can control almost everything remotely (make sure 
JavaMonitor is not open to the world!). The code was added to the trunk of 
Wonder (the Wonder53 build) so if you want to play with it, make sure you get 
it from this build.

Below is a couple of call examples. Please note that if JavaMonitor requires a 
password, you need to append ?passwd=X at the end of the URLs.



Fetching the details of all applications :

curl -X GET 
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json

Adding a new application : 

curl -X POST -d {id: 'AjaxExample',type: 'MApplication', name: 
'AjaxExample',unixOutputPath: '/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs', unixPath: 
'/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Applications/AjaxExample.woa/AjaxExample'} 
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json

Adding a new instance :

curl -X GET 
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/addInstancehost=localhost

Delete an application :

curl -X DELETE 
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample.json

Delete an instance :

curl -X GET 
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/deleteInstance?id=1

Adding a new host :

curl -X POST -d {id: 'otherserver.com',type: 'MHost', osType: 
'MACOSX',address: '192.168.20.5', name: 'otherserver.com'} 
http://127.0.0.1:56789/apps/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mHosts.json


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Re: REST routes in JavaMonitor

2010-09-29 Thread David Avendasora

On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Good morning!

Yesterday, I committed REST routes inside JavaMonitor, this is the stuff that
was demonstrated at WOWODC 2010. With those routes + the direct actions Anjo
added last year, you can control almost everything remotely (make sure
JavaMonitor is not open to the world!). The code was added to the trunk of
Wonder (the Wonder53 build) so if you want to play with it, make sure you get
it from this build.

Whoo hoo!

Please note that if JavaMonitor requires a password, you need to append
?passwd=X at the end of the URLs.

I think Joe Little just turned over in his grave.

I mean, he would have if he were dead.

He's not dead, is he? I haven't seen him around much lately.

*sob* He never writes, I guess we're not important to him anymore. He's
probably off single-signing-on with a Ruby developer.

Dave

Fetching the details of all applications :

curl -X GET
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json

Adding a new application :

curl -X POST -d {id: 'AjaxExample',type: 'MApplication', name:
'AjaxExample',unixOutputPath: '/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs', unixPath:
'/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Applications/AjaxExample.woa/AjaxExample'}
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json

Adding a new instance :

curl -X GET
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/addInstancehost=localhost

Delete an application :

curl -X DELETE
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample.json

Delete an instance :

curl -X GET
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/deleteInstance?id=1

Adding a new host :

curl -X POST -d {id: 'otherserver.com',type: 'MHost', osType:
'MACOSX',address: '192.168.20.5', name: 'otherserver.com'}
http://127.0.0.1:56789/apps/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mHosts.json

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Re: database concept help

2010-09-29 Thread Theodore Petrosky

so I am creating a little test.

I have a People and a Job entity. 
attributes:

People has a personName attribute
and
Job has a jobtitle

I created the many to many selecting the Flatten Relationship option.

I get a new entity:   PeopleJob

so far so good.

I see in _Job.java a method:

addToPeoplesRelationship but no 'set'. Was that a typo on your part?

I am going to continue playing with my test app and see where it leads me.

thanks for the help.

Ted

--- On Wed, 9/29/10, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

 From: Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca
 Subject: Re: database concept help
 To: Theodore Petrosky tedp...@yahoo.com
 Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 6:47 AM
 
 Le 2010-09-29 à 06:42, Theodore Petrosky a écrit :
 
  I am altering a project (adding a relation) and I
 don't understand the Flatten relationship option.
  
  this will be a many to many. I just don't understand
 what flattening does. I started googling and so far the
 answers don't click.
  
  what's happening in a flattened vs an un-flattened
 relationship.
 
 Flattened means that the table in the middle (that only
 holds the keys to join the two other tables) is hidden in
 the EOs, and when you create a new object in one of the two
 tables, the join table will automatically be populated.
 
 So let's say you have a People and a Job tables, and the
 join table is People_Job, to add a new job to a person, you
 do :
 
   aPerson.setRelationJob(newJob)
 
 No need to do aPerson.setRelationshipPeopleJob(new
 PeopleJob).



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UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

2010-09-29 Thread Miguel Arroz

Hi!

  I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about having a 
unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That would make the 
generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.

  Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.

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Re: database concept help

2010-09-29 Thread Paul D Yu

Ted

Conceptually, if the association entity (PeopleJob) is just that an association 
between the two EO's and no other attributes are on the the association then 
Flatten is good.  However, if you have another attribute such as isPrimary on 
the PeopleJob or startDate then flatten would not be the right approach.

Paul
On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Theodore Petrosky wrote:

 so I am creating a little test.
 
 I have a People and a Job entity. 
 attributes:
 
 People has a personName attribute
 and
 Job has a jobtitle
 
 I created the many to many selecting the Flatten Relationship option.
 
 I get a new entity:   PeopleJob
 
 so far so good.
 
 I see in _Job.java a method:
 
 addToPeoplesRelationship but no 'set'. Was that a typo on your part?
 
 I am going to continue playing with my test app and see where it leads me.
 
 thanks for the help.
 
 Ted
 
 --- On Wed, 9/29/10, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 From: Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca
 Subject: Re: database concept help
 To: Theodore Petrosky tedp...@yahoo.com
 Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 6:47 AM
 
 Le 2010-09-29 à 06:42, Theodore Petrosky a écrit :
 
 I am altering a project (adding a relation) and I
 don't understand the Flatten relationship option.
 
 this will be a many to many. I just don't understand
 what flattening does. I started googling and so far the
 answers don't click.
 
 what's happening in a flattened vs an un-flattened
 relationship.
 
 Flattened means that the table in the middle (that only
 holds the keys to join the two other tables) is hidden in
 the EOs, and when you create a new object in one of the two
 tables, the join table will automatically be populated.
 
 So let's say you have a People and a Job tables, and the
 join table is People_Job, to add a new job to a person, you
 do :
 
   aPerson.setRelationJob(newJob)
 
 No need to do aPerson.setRelationshipPeopleJob(new
 PeopleJob).
 
 
 
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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

inline: NEwEntityIndex.jpg

Constraint setting on the index can then be set to 'Distinct' (which I assume 
is unique in database speak). Not sure if this works for all database platforms 
though.

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

 Hi!
 
  I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about having a 
 unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That would make the 
 generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.
 
  Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.
 
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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

2010-09-29 Thread Miguel Arroz

Hi!

  Thanks! Doesn't seem to work on PostgreSQL. :(

  Regards,

Miguel Arroz

On 2010/09/29, at 14:43, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

 NEwEntityIndex.jpg
 
 Constraint setting on the index can then be set to 'Distinct' (which I assume 
 is unique in database speak). Not sure if this works for all database 
 platforms though.
 
 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about having a 
 unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That would make the 
 generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.
 
 Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.
 
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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

2010-09-29 Thread Ramsey Gurley

http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/com/webobjects/eoaccess/EOEntityIndex.html

EOEntityIndex is new in 5.4.x and would require plugin support for it
to work. I assume that is at least one of the reasons why it does not
work with Wonder's Postgres plugin. When I asked on list about this
earlier, Chuck Hill said

Uh, if it was a beef roast, it would still be mooing. Nothing to do
with Wonder. Consider it an API design sketch. It is a very good
idea, just not ready for use.

(^_^)

Ramsey

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

Thanks! Doesn't seem to work on PostgreSQL. :(

Regards,

Miguel Arroz

On 2010/09/29, at 14:43, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

NEwEntityIndex.jpg

Constraint setting on the index can then be set to
'Distinct' (which I assume is unique in database speak). Not sure
if this works for all database platforms though.

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about
having a unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That
would make the generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.

Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.

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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

I am guessing is needs to be implemented in the appropriate db platform plugin 
or SQLHelper class in Wonder. it is probably implemented in FB since that 
probably would have been what Mike S was using when he added that feature.

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

 Hi!
 
  Thanks! Doesn't seem to work on PostgreSQL. :(
 
  Regards,
 
 Miguel Arroz
 
 On 2010/09/29, at 14:43, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
 
 NEwEntityIndex.jpg
 
 Constraint setting on the index can then be set to 'Distinct' (which I 
 assume is unique in database speak). Not sure if this works for all database 
 platforms though.
 
 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about having a 
 unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That would make the 
 generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.
 
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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

OK, well in that case, the new WO54 wonder branch is an opportunity for someone
with time on their hands to implement it ;-)

-Kieran

On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/com/webobjects/eoaccess/EOEntityIndex.html

EOEntityIndex is new in 5.4.x and would require plugin support for it to
work. I assume that is at least one of the reasons why it does not work with
Wonder's Postgres plugin. When I asked on list about this earlier, Chuck
Hill said

Uh, if it was a beef roast, it would still be mooing. Nothing to do with
Wonder. Consider it an API design sketch. It is a very good idea, just not
ready for use.

(^_^)

Ramsey

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

Thanks! Doesn't seem to work on PostgreSQL. :(

Regards,

Miguel Arroz

On 2010/09/29, at 14:43, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

NEwEntityIndex.jpg

Constraint setting on the index can then be set to 'Distinct' (which I
assume is unique in database speak). Not sure if this works for all
database platforms though.

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about having a
unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That would make the
generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.

Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.

Regards,

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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

the bigger issue is that the 5.3 and 5.4 schema generation API's aren't
compatible, so if you use the 5.3 API's, you hit these weird API paths that
bypass certain features. it's kind of a mess. currently migrations and entity
modeler both use the 5.3 API's. now that we have a 5.4 branch, we can actually
call through the 5.4 API's and these features can be turned on.

On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/com/webobjects/eoaccess/EOEntityIndex.html

EOEntityIndex is new in 5.4.x and would require plugin support for it to
work. I assume that is at least one of the reasons why it does not work with
Wonder's Postgres plugin. When I asked on list about this earlier, Chuck
Hill said

Uh, if it was a beef roast, it would still be mooing. Nothing to do with
Wonder. Consider it an API design sketch. It is a very good idea, just not
ready for use.

(^_^)

Ramsey

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

Thanks! Doesn't seem to work on PostgreSQL. :(

Regards,

Miguel Arroz

On 2010/09/29, at 14:43, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

NEwEntityIndex.jpg

Constraint setting on the index can then be set to 'Distinct' (which I
assume is unique in database speak). Not sure if this works for all
database platforms though.

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about having a
unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That would make the
generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.

Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.

Regards,

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Re: REST routes in JavaMonitor

Good job Robert, er, sorry I meant Elvis ;-)

On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 Good morning!
 
 Yesterday, I committed REST routes inside JavaMonitor, this is the stuff that 
 was demonstrated at WOWODC 2010. With those routes + the direct actions Anjo 
 added last year, you can control almost everything remotely (make sure 
 JavaMonitor is not open to the world!). The code was added to the trunk of 
 Wonder (the Wonder53 build) so if you want to play with it, make sure you get 
 it from this build.
 
 Below is a couple of call examples. Please note that if JavaMonitor requires 
 a password, you need to append ?passwd=X at the end of the URLs.
 
 
 
 Fetching the details of all applications :
 
 curl -X GET 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json
 
 Adding a new application : 
 
 curl -X POST -d {id: 'AjaxExample',type: 'MApplication', name: 
 'AjaxExample',unixOutputPath: '/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs', unixPath: 
 '/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Applications/AjaxExample.woa/AjaxExample'} 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json
 
 Adding a new instance :
 
 curl -X GET 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/addInstancehost=localhost
 
 Delete an application :
 
 curl -X DELETE 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample.json
 
 Delete an instance :
 
 curl -X GET 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/deleteInstance?id=1
 
 Adding a new host :
 
 curl -X POST -d {id: 'otherserver.com',type: 'MHost', osType: 
 'MACOSX',address: '192.168.20.5', name: 'otherserver.com'} 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/apps/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mHosts.json
 
 
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Re: REST routes in JavaMonitor


Le 2010-09-29 à 10:10, Kieran Kelleher a écrit :

 Good job Robert, er, sorry I meant Elvis ;-)

Just a note, it's not for Elvis the singer, it's for Elvis Gratton :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVHs12e-Fgc

 On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Good morning!
 
 Yesterday, I committed REST routes inside JavaMonitor, this is the stuff 
 that was demonstrated at WOWODC 2010. With those routes + the direct actions 
 Anjo added last year, you can control almost everything remotely (make sure 
 JavaMonitor is not open to the world!). The code was added to the trunk of 
 Wonder (the Wonder53 build) so if you want to play with it, make sure you 
 get it from this build.
 
 Below is a couple of call examples. Please note that if JavaMonitor requires 
 a password, you need to append ?passwd=X at the end of the URLs.
 
 
 
 Fetching the details of all applications :
 
 curl -X GET 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json
 
 Adding a new application : 
 
 curl -X POST -d {id: 'AjaxExample',type: 'MApplication', name: 
 'AjaxExample',unixOutputPath: '/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs', 
 unixPath: 
 '/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Applications/AjaxExample.woa/AjaxExample'} 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json
 
 Adding a new instance :
 
 curl -X GET 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/addInstancehost=localhost
 
 Delete an application :
 
 curl -X DELETE 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample.json
 
 Delete an instance :
 
 curl -X GET 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/deleteInstance?id=1
 
 Adding a new host :
 
 curl -X POST -d {id: 'otherserver.com',type: 'MHost', osType: 
 'MACOSX',address: '192.168.20.5', name: 'otherserver.com'} 
 http://127.0.0.1:56789/apps/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mHosts.json
 
 
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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

i don't think FB does it either ... if entity modeler just called the 5.4 
generation method, it would magically appear, probably.

ms

On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

 I am guessing is needs to be implemented in the appropriate db platform 
 plugin or SQLHelper class in Wonder. it is probably implemented in FB 
 since that probably would have been what Mike S was using when he added that 
 feature.
 
 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Thanks! Doesn't seem to work on PostgreSQL. :(
 
 Regards,
 
 Miguel Arroz
 
 On 2010/09/29, at 14:43, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
 
 NEwEntityIndex.jpg
 
 Constraint setting on the index can then be set to 'Distinct' (which I 
 assume is unique in database speak). Not sure if this works for all 
 database platforms though.
 
 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about having a 
 unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That would make the 
 generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.
 
 Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.
 
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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:00 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/com/webobjects/eoaccess/EOEntityIndex.html

EOEntityIndex is new in 5.4.x and would require plugin support for it to
work. I assume that is at least one of the reasons why it does not work with
Wonder's Postgres plugin. When I asked on list about this earlier, Chuck
Hill said

Uh, if it was a beef roast, it would still be mooing. Nothing to do with
Wonder. Consider it an API design sketch. It is a very good idea, just not
ready for use.

I don't think anything has changed since then. IIRC (and it has been a while
now), from peeking it appeared that even part inside of WO was incomplete.
It would be a good thing to fix in Wonder.

Chuck

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

Thanks! Doesn't seem to work on PostgreSQL. :(

Regards,

Miguel Arroz

On 2010/09/29, at 14:43, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

NEwEntityIndex.jpg

Constraint setting on the index can then be set to 'Distinct' (which I
assume is unique in database speak). Not sure if this works for all
database platforms though.

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about having a
unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property. That would make the
generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to the DB.

Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.

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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

2010-09-29 Thread Ramsey Gurley

On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:00 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/com/webobjects/eoaccess/EOEntityIndex.html

EOEntityIndex is new in 5.4.x and would require plugin support for
it to work. I assume that is at least one of the reasons why it
does not work with Wonder's Postgres plugin. When I asked on list
about this earlier, Chuck Hill said

Uh, if it was a beef roast, it would still be mooing. Nothing to
do with Wonder. Consider it an API design sketch. It is a very
good idea, just not ready for use.

I don't think anything has changed since then. IIRC (and it has
been a while now), from peeking it appeared that even part inside
of WO was incomplete. It would be a good thing to fix in Wonder.

Chuck

Sounds impossible. I don't think anyone could pull that off. Not
even Mike (^_~)

Ramsey

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

Thanks! Doesn't seem to work on PostgreSQL. :(

Regards,

Miguel Arroz

On 2010/09/29, at 14:43, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

NEwEntityIndex.jpg

Constraint setting on the index can then be set to
'Distinct' (which I assume is unique in database speak). Not sure
if this works for all database platforms though.

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

I had the idea I saw, in some W(O)W(O)DC, someone talking about
having a unique checkbox on Entity Modeler for a property.
That would make the generated SQL have the UNIQUE constraint to
the DB.

Did I dream about this, or is it real? I can not find it anywhere.

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Re: UNIQUE constraint on Entity Modeler

 http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/com/webobjects/eoaccess/EOEntityIndex.html
 
 EOEntityIndex is new in 5.4.x and would require plugin support for it to 
 work.  I assume that is at least one of the reasons why it does not work 
 with Wonder's Postgres plugin.  When I asked on list about this earlier, 
 Chuck Hill said
 
 Uh, if it was a beef roast, it would still be mooing.  Nothing to do with 
 Wonder.  Consider it an API design sketch.  It is a very good idea, just 
 not ready for use.
 
 I don't think anything has changed since then.  IIRC (and it has been a 
 while now), from peeking it appeared that even part inside of WO was 
 incomplete.  It would be a good thing to fix in Wonder.
 
 Sounds impossible.  I don't think anyone could pull that off.  Not even Mike 
 (^_~)
this is in the category of things i'm less likely to fix in wonder ... doing 
things twice in different ways is generally unfun.

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Re: REST routes in JavaMonitor

2010-09-29 Thread Joe Little

I'm not dead yet! I think I'll go for a walk... (thump) Yes, my
pre-burial grave site just had a small earth tremor.

Busy finishing up old projects and about to jump back into the latest
3.6.1 w/ Wonder 5.4 branch goodness for ERModern stuff. Hopefully its
not breaking daily at this point. D2W mind binding will commence next
week as I hope to relearn (or learn) that state of mind.

In all seriousness, I'm unsure of what should be done with JavaMonitor
and passwords to alleviate the obvious potential weaknesses. SSL is a
chore and not worth the hassle for this per se, but I still think some
hash approach for ?pwhash=123456ABCDEF that could be longish (think
WEP?) that is evaluated by the REST service on its end to compare
hashes seems to be a least more proper approach. Yes, the hash could
be replayed if caught over the air, but its still just a computed
representation of the password, and not the password itself. This
still keeps the clear text password secret from the net since this may
be in use at other places (db pass, user account, etc)

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:18 AM, David Avendasora
webobje...@avendasora.com wrote:

On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Good morning!

Yesterday, I committed REST routes inside JavaMonitor, this is the stuff
that was demonstrated at WOWODC 2010. With those routes + the direct actions
Anjo added last year, you can control almost everything remotely (make sure
JavaMonitor is not open to the world!). The code was added to the trunk of
Wonder (the Wonder53 build) so if you want to play with it, make sure you
get it from this build.

Whoo hoo!

Please note that if JavaMonitor requires a password, you need to append
?passwd=X at the end of the URLs.

I think Joe Little just turned over in his grave.

I mean, he would have if he were dead.

He's not dead, is he? I haven't seen him around much lately.

*sob* He never writes, I guess we're not important to him anymore. He's
probably off single-signing-on with a Ruby developer.

Dave

Fetching the details of all applications :

curl -X GET
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json

Adding a new application :

curl -X POST -d {id: 'AjaxExample',type: 'MApplication', name:
'AjaxExample',unixOutputPath: '/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs',
unixPath:
'/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Applications/AjaxExample.woa/AjaxExample'}
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications.json

Adding a new instance :

curl -X GET
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/addInstancehost=localhost

Delete an application :

curl -X DELETE
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample.json

Delete an instance :

curl -X GET
http://127.0.0.1:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mApplications/AjaxExample/deleteInstance?id=1

Adding a new host :

curl -X POST -d {id: 'otherserver.com',type: 'MHost', osType:
'MACOSX',address: '192.168.20.5', name: 'otherserver.com'}
http://127.0.0.1:56789/apps/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/ra/mHosts.json

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Current Status of WO

2010-09-29 Thread Alexander Spohr

Hi list,

I am planning a new project with heavy load. No HTML output, just plists. Lots 
of users, small data footprint (about 10k per request). PostgreSQL.
I consider using WO and EOF again because it served me well in the last 
(almost) 15 years. But I am not sure about the current status.

The net has lots of outdated info and a some fresh about wonder. This list 
looks still very active (that gives me hope).
What is the current status of WO? Do we have a public hosted WO5.4 that Apple 
won’t pull? I left this list two years ago so if someone could please bring me 
up to speed?

Thank you for your time. It is appreciated!

atze

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Re: Current Status of WO


Le 2010-09-29 à 14:28, Alexander Spohr a écrit :

 Hi list,
 
 I am planning a new project with heavy load. No HTML output, just plists. 
 Lots of users, small data footprint (about 10k per request). PostgreSQL.
 I consider using WO and EOF again because it served me well in the last 
 (almost) 15 years. But I am not sure about the current status.
 
 The net has lots of outdated info and a some fresh about wonder. This list 
 looks still very active (that gives me hope).
 What is the current status of WO? Do we have a public hosted WO5.4 that Apple 
 won’t pull? I left this list two years ago so if someone could please bring 
 me up to speed?

WO 5.4.3 is still available, the docs too, even if it's marked as legacy, and 
Wonder/WOLips/WOWODC are picking up where Apple left. We moved from 
Apple-supported to community-supported.

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Re: Current Status of WO


On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Alexander Spohr wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 I am planning a new project with heavy load. No HTML output, just plists. 
 Lots of users, small data footprint (about 10k per request). PostgreSQL.
 I consider using WO and EOF again because it served me well in the last 
 (almost) 15 years. But I am not sure about the current status.
 
 The net has lots of outdated info and a some fresh about wonder. This list 
 looks still very active (that gives me hope).
 What is the current status of WO?

The same as two years ago.


 Do we have a public hosted WO5.4 that Apple won’t pull?

Who knows what Apple may decide to do?


 I left this list two years ago so if someone could please bring me up to 
 speed?
 
 Thank you for your time. It is appreciated!


Things are the same as they ever were, except for lots of advances in Wonder.


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Re: Current Status of WO

2010-09-29 Thread Paul D Yu

And for you app, you may want to look at ERRest framework.

Paul
On Sep 29, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

 
 On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Alexander Spohr wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 I am planning a new project with heavy load. No HTML output, just plists. 
 Lots of users, small data footprint (about 10k per request). PostgreSQL.
 I consider using WO and EOF again because it served me well in the last 
 (almost) 15 years. But I am not sure about the current status.
 
 The net has lots of outdated info and a some fresh about wonder. This list 
 looks still very active (that gives me hope).
 What is the current status of WO?
 
 The same as two years ago.
 
 
 Do we have a public hosted WO5.4 that Apple won’t pull?
 
 Who knows what Apple may decide to do?
 
 
 I left this list two years ago so if someone could please bring me up to 
 speed?
 
 Thank you for your time. It is appreciated!
 
 
 Things are the same as they ever were, except for lots of advances in Wonder.
 
 
 Chuck
 
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Re: [Wonder-disc] ERXNavigationMenu - can you have more than one?

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Wardle

Hi Tim,

Sorry to be slow replying; day job busy at present!

My NavigationMenu.plist looks like this:

(

{

name = Root;

children = (Home, Patients, Reports / letters,
Families, Biobank, Messages, My profile, Admin, Logout);

},

{

name = Home;

directActionClass = DirectAction;

directActionName = default;

},

{

name = Patients;

children = (All patients, Add patient, Recent patients);

directActionClass = Patients;

directActionName = listPatients;

},

{

name = Admin;

children = session.authenticatedUser.role.name;

childrenChoices = {

Inactive = ();

Normal user = ();

Power user = (Users, News, Roles);

System = (Users, News, Roles, Centres, Projects,
Templates, Form types, Encounter templates, Import data, View
data);

};



directActionClass = Users;

directActionName = listUsers;

},


Well, that's just a fragment. The children choices are determined at runtime
using the keypath and the lookup as above.

You'll see I'm simply linking to different DAs in different classes.

All my DA classes are subclasses of a SecureDirectAction class which
includes the code:

/**

 * Check that user is logged in prior to executing any direct actions.

 */

@Override public WOActionResults performActionNamed(String actionName) {

if (isLoggedIn()==true) {

return super.performActionNamed(actionName);

}

return redirectToLoginPage(this.context());

}


/**

 * Do we have a current and valid logged in user?

 * This method is careful not to create a session if one does not exist.

 * @return

 */

public boolean isLoggedIn() {

Session session = (Session) existingSession();

if (session!=null) {

if (session.authenticatedUser()==null) return false;

if (session.authenticatedUser().role()==null) return false;

return checkAccessForUser(session.authenticatedUser());

}

return false;

}


/**

 * Can the given user access this page?

 * Designed to be overridden by subclasses to add additional checks if
necessary.

 */

protected boolean checkAccessForUser(User u) {

return u.role().canLogin();

}



My admin DA class overrides this method:


/* (non-Javadoc)

 * @see
com.eldrix.news.app.SecureDirectAction#checkAccessForUser(com.eldrix.rsdb.model.User)

 */

@Override

protected boolean checkAccessForUser(User u) {

return u.role().isSystem();

}


public WOActionResults listTemplatesAction() {

return listAdminData(Template.ENTITY_NAME, new String[]{Admin,Templates,
List templates});

}

public WOActionResults listSurgeriesAction() {

return listAdminData(Surgery.ENTITY_NAME, new String[]{Admin,View data,
SURG});

}

public WOActionResults listConceptsAction() {

return listAdminData(Concept.ENTITY_NAME, new String[]{Admin, View data,
Concepts});

}

public WOActionResults listDescriptionsAction() {

return listAdminData(Description.ENTITY_NAME, new String[]{Admin, View
data, Descriptions});

}

public WOActionResults listRelationshipsAction() {

return listAdminData(Relationship.ENTITY_NAME, new String[]{Admin,View
data, Relationships});

}

 protected WOActionResults listAdminData(String entityName, String[]
navigation) {

ListPageInterface nextPage =
D2W.factory().listPageForEntityNamed(entityName, session());

EODatabaseDataSource ds =
newEODatabaseDataSource(ERXEC.newEditingContext(), entityName);

nextPage.setDataSource(ds);

session().navigationState().setState(new NSArrayString(navigation));

return (WOActionResults) nextPage;

}



Hope this helps. Not entirely sure this is the *best* way of handling this
stuff, but it seems to be working...

Best wishes,

Mark


On 27 September 2010 18:42, Tim Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote:
 Mark:

 Thanks for the response. Time permitting, could you expand on what you
said about different classes reflecting different submenus?

 So,  I take it that the solution you're using incorporates a single
NavigationMenu.plist. I was wondering about this since it only seems to be
possible to point to one plist in the properties.

 My current navigation is a custom drop-down list using a ul structure
and of course, it is simple for me to exclude menu items based on membership
in a certain role. Since ERXNavigation is described in a plist, I've been
having a hard time figuring out how you exclude items in code.

 Tim

 On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:58 PM, Mark Wardle wrote:

 Hi Tim.

 I use ERXNavigation and have a large number if D2W generated pages. I
 took the decision early on to use custom Direct Actions for these
 menus - with different classes reflecting different submenus. I also
 use some conventional non-D2W components manually crafted (eg the home
 page) and so those DAs simply do a pageWithName call.

 As such you could use a custom navigation

Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Ritchie

On 24/Sep/2010, at 11:37 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 My vote is that you are crazy.  :-)  This becomes an issue in apps where 
 users concurrently edit the same object.  Out of the box, it is last in wins 
 and the second user to save gets no warning that what they are actually 
 editing is not what they were looking at.
 Right, but there are various ways around that.  

Which brings us back to 'implement the delegate and you get notified'.
Perhaps not what folks would like today however it's what's there. ;-)
M.
(Who's now back from traveling and working through the e-mail backlog. ;-)

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Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-29 Thread Ken Anderson

I spoke to our Oracle guy, and he says that we should maintain one connection 
to one server, so it shouldn't be possible for us to get one record from one, 
and a different from the other.  So much for that idea!

On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

 It's Oracle RAC, so yes, a cluster.
 
  Could it be that you are writing a row to one server and reading the same 
 row immediately after from another server that still didn't receive the 
 update?

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Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-29 Thread Miguel Arroz

Hi!

On 2010/09/29, at 21:31, Mark Ritchie wrote:

 (Who's now back from traveling and working through the e-mail backlog. ;-)

  I was starting to get worried about you! ;)

  Regards,

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Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

 My vote is that you are crazy.  :-)  This becomes an issue in apps where 
 users concurrently edit the same object.  Out of the box, it is last in 
 wins and the second user to save gets no warning that what they are 
 actually editing is not what they were looking at.
 Right, but there are various ways around that.  
 Which brings us back to 'implement the delegate and you get notified'.
 Perhaps not what folks would like today however it's what's there. ;-)
 M.
Miguel's still right, though. This is still kind of busted ... Just because 
it's technically possible that you could implement a workaround doesn't mean 
the default behavior isn't wrong. Particularly when the proposed alternative 
implementation is really not simple.

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Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Ritchie

On 29/Sep/2010, at 1:39 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 My vote is that you are crazy.  :-)  This becomes an issue in apps where 
 users concurrently edit the same object.  Out of the box, it is last in 
 wins and the second user to save gets no warning that what they are 
 actually editing is not what they were looking at.
 Right, but there are various ways around that.  
 Which brings us back to 'implement the delegate and you get notified'.
 Perhaps not what folks would like today however it's what's there. ;-)
 M.
 Miguel's still right, though. This is still kind of busted ... Just because 
 it's technically possible that you could implement a workaround doesn't mean 
 the default behavior isn't wrong. Particularly when the proposed alternative 
 implementation is really not simple.
Yes, as the out of band conversations have shown, there are lots of ideas on 
how this might otherwise be.
However, given 5.4.3, the delegate is the way to catch the case.

Further conversation should be tabled until the nerf bats are handed out and we 
have suitable drinks! ;-)
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Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

 My vote is that you are crazy.  :-)  This becomes an issue in apps where 
 users concurrently edit the same object.  Out of the box, it is last in 
 wins and the second user to save gets no warning that what they are 
 actually editing is not what they were looking at.
 Right, but there are various ways around that.  
 Which brings us back to 'implement the delegate and you get notified'.
 Perhaps not what folks would like today however it's what's there. ;-)
 M.
 Miguel's still right, though. This is still kind of busted ... Just because 
 it's technically possible that you could implement a workaround doesn't mean 
 the default behavior isn't wrong. Particularly when the proposed alternative 
 implementation is really not simple.
 Yes, as the out of band conversations have shown, there are lots of ideas on 
 how this might otherwise be.
 However, given 5.4.3, the delegate is the way to catch the case.
 
 Further conversation should be tabled until the nerf bats are handed out and 
 we have suitable drinks! ;-)
 M.
Read: busted

so we are in agreement :)

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Maybe out of the Loop

2010-09-29 Thread Gino Pacitti


Hi List
I just read this morning on a thread about state of WO.
I have great confidence it the future but was not sure if I misread  
something.


Has Apple ceased active development of WO and is it now in the hands  
of the WO Community with projects such as WONDER?
Does Apple support its development by paying active third parties in  
improving and bug fixing 5.4.x - and what about WO 6 will it ever  
show its self?


GIno
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Re: Single stack optimistic lock exception?

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Ritchie

On 29/Sep/2010, at 1:46 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 so we are in agreement :)

Sure, I'll go with that! ;-)
M.

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Re: Maybe out of the Loop

2010-09-29 Thread Ramsey Gurley


On Sep 29, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Gino Pacitti wrote:


Hi List
I just read this morning on a thread about state of WO.
I have great confidence it the future but was not sure if I misread  
something.


Has Apple ceased active development of WO and is it now in the hands  
of the WO Community with projects such as WONDER?
Does Apple support its development by paying active third parties in  
improving and bug fixing 5.4.x - and what about WO 6 will it  
ever show its self?


GIno


Apple's official policy is No Comment on anything regarding future  
products. (^_^)


On the outside looking in, I see WO docs in the legacy section of  
their developer site.  I see no new updates to WO in something like  
two years.  But I also hear rumors that they foot the bill for nice  
things like ERProfiling and ERModernLook frameworks in Wonder.


Which leaves me wondering only one thing...

How do I get them to sponsor *my* cool open source works (^_~)d

Ramsey

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On Sep 29, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Gino Pacitti wrote:

 Hi List
 I just read this morning on a thread about state of WO.
 I have great confidence it the future but was not sure if I misread something.
 
 Has Apple ceased active development of WO and is it now in the hands of the 
 WO Community with projects such as WONDER?

Apple uses WO internally and continues to invest in it.


 Does Apple support its development by paying active third parties in 
 improving and bug fixing 5.4.x

Work on WO itself happens inside Apple.  Most recent big changes have come from 
Wonder contributors.  Apple also supports Wonder, directly or indirectly, and 
also the WOLips tool set.



 - and what about WO 6 will it ever show its self?


Who knows?



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Patched MySQL plugin

Hello everyone,

I patched MySQLPlugin locally with the patch that Simon McLean submitted 5 days 
ago (JIRA WONDER-600, http://issues.objectstyle.org/jira/browse/WONDER-600). If 
you use MySQL, can you try this version and let us know if the patch is working 
for you?

  https://services.wocommunity.org/MySQLPlugIn.tgz


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Re: Patched MySQL plugin

2010-09-29 Thread Louis Demers

Hi,

not really any of my business but am I the only one who finds this approach 
unsettling ?

NSTimestamps are points in time. They are not NSDatestamps. Why mess with the 
comparison by setting to zero hours, minute and seconds ? Why not just minutes 
and seconds or again,  may be dates too so that everything within a month 
returns equal...

In my app, when that's the behaviour I want, I zero out the data before writing 
it to the database so  that subsequent checks for equality will return values...

this patch is like rounding off double values so they can be checked for 
equality and have a good chance of matching. 

Finally, shouldn't all database have matching behaviour ? moving to a different 
database will certainly create surprising results... Maybe I'm missing 
something...

Anyway... Best regards.


On 2010-09-29, at 20:30 , Pascal Robert wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 I patched MySQLPlugin locally with the patch that Simon McLean submitted 5 
 days ago (JIRA WONDER-600, 
 http://issues.objectstyle.org/jira/browse/WONDER-600). If you use MySQL, can 
 you try this version and let us know if the patch is working for you?
 
  https://services.wocommunity.org/MySQLPlugIn.tgz
 
 
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Re: Patched MySQL plugin

2010-09-29 Thread Paul Hoadley

On 30/09/2010, at 10:21 AM, Louis Demers wrote:

 In my app, when that's the behaviour I want, I zero out the data before 
 writing it to the database so  that subsequent checks for equality will 
 return values...

FWIW, I've found that the only clean solution to this problem is to abandon 
using timestamp types to represent a 1-day-resolution date.  In my experience, 
at least, zeroing out the time part only works until you start using multiple 
timezones.


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Re: Patched MySQL plugin

2010-09-29 Thread Ramsey Lee Gurley



On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Paul Hoadley wrote:

 On 30/09/2010, at 10:21 AM, Louis Demers wrote:
 
 In my app, when that's the behaviour I want, I zero out the data before 
 writing it to the database so  that subsequent checks for equality will 
 return values...
 
 FWIW, I've found that the only clean solution to this problem is to abandon 
 using timestamp types to represent a 1-day-resolution date.  In my 
 experience, at least, zeroing out the time part only works until you start 
 using multiple timezones.

Apple agrees with you Paul.

http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/index.html

Calendar dates should not be represented by NSTimestamp.  The Date prototype is 
wrong for using it IMHO.

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Re: Patched MySQL plugin

Piling on here. As Louis pointed out, NSTimestamps are points in time.
Messing with that in prototypes is a Bad Idea. You will regret. Have you
crossed a DST boundary yet in your testing? And making one database behave
differently than others seems at least unwise.

If you want a calendar date, find a different class. Joda Time and Apache
Commons would be a good place to start looking. That would make welcome and
very useful contribution to Wonder.

Chuck and hating Java and Dates

On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Paul Hoadley wrote:
On 30/09/2010, at 10:21 AM, Louis Demers wrote:

In my app, when that's the behaviour I want, I zero out the data before
writing it to the database so that subsequent checks for equality will
return values...

FWIW, I've found that the only clean solution to this problem is to abandon
using timestamp types to represent a 1-day-resolution date. In my
experience, at least, zeroing out the time part only works until you start
using multiple timezones.

Apple agrees with you Paul.

http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/index.html

Calendar dates should not be represented by NSTimestamp. The Date prototype
is wrong for using it IMHO.

Ramsey
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Re: Patched MySQL plugin

2010-09-29 Thread Ken Anderson

An NSTimestamp represents a point in time, as has been stated. Making it
behave differently is a bad idea.

I have a set of methods that determine today's date in GMT, and store things
that are dates that way. I've never had a problem. I pull out the year,
month, and day from a timestamp represented in the local timezone, then create
a new timestamp with the same year, month, and day with GMT as the timezone.
It's always worked for me...

Ken

On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

If you want a calendar date, find a different class. Joda Time and Apache
Commons would be a good place to start looking. That would make welcome and
very useful contribution to Wonder.

Chuck and hating Java and Dates

On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Paul Hoadley wrote:
On 30/09/2010, at 10:21 AM, Louis Demers wrote:

In my app, when that's the behaviour I want, I zero out the data before
writing it to the database so that subsequent checks for equality will
return values...

Apple agrees with you Paul.

http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/index.html

Calendar dates should not be represented by NSTimestamp. The Date prototype
is wrong for using it IMHO.

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